Kathryn - feel free to mute and unmute yourself while you're not speaking

great

Anna and Kim can you give an example of how the EE Principles are showing up? What did you do differently?

Beyond the RF….whatevers.

Got it - next question will be about practical changes that they’ve had to make

perfect, thanks. people are asking for concrete examples!

Great question Brownyn, one of the things that the EEI is doing currently is exploring with current Practice Partners what collateral they have developed consistent with EE Principles that we can make available in Q12020

We think it is important to understand the context and situational use of resources moreso then we tend to with evaluation resources so we want to do it differently.

Additionally in later part of 2020, we are co-writing a piece with GEO that will surface early adopter stories.

Yes Bronwyn, please share. And perhaps consider becoming a Practice Partner (those who are engaged in advancing the principles).

And I would say is it really more time or it is time better used?

I have an example that I think gets to this - the time, up front planning issue, and what this can look like...

Yes Ellen I just know that people use time as an excuse not to shift practice but will spend time on other tasks that are easier and potentially less impactful or relevant

I want us to push against all the barriers we tend to put in place. It will not be easy but it is not easy work.

Kim, can you lift up your example on time, planning up front, to also answer this?

I'd add that the upfront kind of time we're talking about can save oodles of time later on because of the understanding can be built

I bet folks spend more time talking about what the evaluation did not reveal when that time might have been allocated to clearer strategy and better questions

What Kim said

Jara and Kim - I want you to address that really quickly when Anna is done.

Cognizant of time here - we have 8 minutes. Going to point out the funding and time frames orthodoxies and ask you two to weigh in there.

Ellen it happens. There is much to undo and unlearn.

JM, that question is a BIG ONE. The accountability history of evaluative work is real. We have not done a good job of having evaluative practice being a core leadership competency for nonprofits (or funders) and so they don’t see it as their work And rightfully so they do not trust. Why should they? What have you (assuming you are funder) done to signal it is “safe” to be honest?

Love this and the EE Principles would still or could be applied.

EE is about Principles not about method. It is about intention and means. How is the act of evaluation support equity and liberation and then what are the methodological implications?

It is about axiology not methodology

Thank you everyone, Truly. This is the BEGINNING of the work and it builds on the efforts of others. Join us.

JM - just a quite acknowledgement that this is something we actively struggle with as evaluators sitting inside the foundation! It's real.

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Deep appreciation to Anna and Kim for their early leadership, courage and humanity.