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Fannie's July Learning Cafe Zoom Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
amorales
48:20
We can't hear it
JKlos
48:34
no sound
Cassandra
48:36
Still no sound for me :(
NPulcino
48:39
There isn't any sound
t.marsh
48:48
No sound
Fannie & Afsha
49:01
Okay one second
amorales
49:28
thank you
Cassandra
49:32
thanks
Joseph Page
49:36
sounds on
karen
01:10:00
It was very powerful!
Fannie & Afsha
01:10:04
Feel free to type in the chat box!
Adeline
01:10:06
How easy it is to give in to hatred
Jerine Faber
01:10:10
I thought it was a powerful message!!!
rrondinelli
01:10:14
Gave insight
lorib
01:10:19
It was amazing how quickly the children bought into the sterotypes.
suzanne
01:10:29
I think the fact that their opinions of themselves changed right away
Cassandra
01:10:30
The way it affected their learning
moniquem
01:10:58
Children looked at the teacher as an authoritive figure and concluded Jane's thought was true.
Adeline
01:11:09
It was surprising that once they were told they were superior or inferior how their behavior changed.
suzanne
01:11:11
how easy it was for this teacher to get her point across
Ana Sojo
01:11:24
I was shocking how quickly they turned on eachother.
lorib
01:11:50
One of my staff actully participated in this experiment 6th grade - siad it was a very powerful lesson.
Camille
01:11:54
I've used this video in my classes for years. The first time I was concerned about the responses I'd received but each and every time there was an ah-ha moment. It's very powerful and I've actually found videos of Jane Elloit doing this same exercise in prisons. Extremely moving.
Joseph Page
01:11:57
i was more intrigued by the Oprah video clip because of the age of the audience
Enza Britos
01:12:26
It was eye opening to see how easily swayed we are as a human race (both children and adults), how messaging is so powerful, the extreme power of those who control the messaging.
NPulcino
01:12:50
It was very eye opening to see how much it impacted their accademic performance.
Camille
01:13:07
I actually use Jane Elliot's experiement in conjunction with theClark Doll experiment.
Adeline
01:13:10
It shows us how much impact and influence we have on those around us, and how we treat others. We have a lot of power to change the community we live in.
kimlee marquise
01:13:58
It was amazing how the children's confidence in themselves was diminished when they were in the non-dominate group. Says a lot about how successful or unsuccessful kids can be based on how they are treated.
moniquem
01:14:34
Conditioning people is much easier in a controlled environment.
Enza Britos
01:15:22
Great point Fannie
amorales
01:15:38
The children who were the target of the hatred believed the lie that they were inferior, that they are the problem, that they are less worthy. This is called internalized oppression.
Cassandra
01:17:25
It shows how we need to be building and encouraging self esteem in the classroom.
Adeline
01:17:42
So many people feel badly about themselves that it becomes easy to be influenced to treat others badly. Much of this comes from how we are taught to look at ourselves.
Enza Britos
01:17:55
YES
kimlee marquise
01:17:58
absolutely
lorib
01:17:59
Absolutely!
karen
01:18:00
YES!
Camille
01:18:01
After I showed this video in one of my classes one of my students shared that as a black person his mom prepared him from a young age that he will have to learn to accept that he will be judged and not traeted fairly based on his skin color.
NPulcino
01:18:02
yes
suzanne
01:18:04
ys absolutely
Enza Britos
01:18:10
I will make sure my children see this tonight!
kowaleskis
01:18:11
I have seen the the real life effect of how discrimination affects black people and what it does to my 4 black children (now grown) self esteem and how they perceive the world and their place in the world. Try as they may, they still can't get those collars off.
rrondinelli
01:18:11
Yes
kimlee marquise
01:18:17
our country needs this now more than EVER!!!
Ana Sojo
01:18:22
Yes.
Camille
01:18:25
No question. It should be a requirement.
amorales
01:18:26
Yes
Joseph Page
01:18:27
It's worth noting that this exercise did lead to a confrontation (violence?) amongst some of the children and YES
Tammy
01:18:28
I am curious to see the long term affects on what the experiment had on the children.
Adeline
01:18:35
absolutely!
Cassandra
01:18:47
Yes
Camille
01:19:31
That's an excellent book. Better than the movie.
kowaleskis
01:19:57
I look forward to continually being an agent for change for social equality
Joseph Page
01:20:21
One of the biggest takeaways could be how fragile self-esteem can be, and I think of bullying, too, especially in schools and on social meida
suzanne
01:21:25
I agree
Adeline
01:22:26
If you treat someone with dignity, even if they have made bad choices, it is amazing how it helps them to begin making positive choices
Tammy
01:22:59
I also foud it interesting that the teacher mentioned American Indians often and now a days they are rarely mentioned.
suzanne
01:23:02
i think this training should be mandatory as sexual conduct trainings
Camille
01:23:03
I think that the main reason tat I use these videos in my class is because I see the prejudism.
lorib
01:23:46
The behaviors happpen all the time. We have to confront negative behaviors and educate for change.
anne leone
01:24:01
work at not falling in to the trap of the negative attitude. Find a way to say something postive or they give a differt way to look at things..
kowaleskis
01:24:18
I use my white priveldge to asdvocate for my children abd I try to educatw people who do not understand
amorales
01:24:51
I like that the parents were actually there to see the experiment. I think that teaching children about racism is important but having the parents engaged will have a greater impact on the children learning.
Cassandra
01:24:52
Sometimes when someone is in an authoritative position they are more unaware of their behavior and actions, and how it truly affects others.
karen
01:26:11
The adults are harder to teach! The children behave what they see and learn how to behave based on the adults around them
suzanne
01:27:27
if you teach the children they will teach the parents
Camille
01:27:36
I think this opens up awareness of not only racial prejudice but biases against many other groups; gender, abilities, etc.
suzanne
01:27:40
just like the no smoking
Adeline
01:29:01
One of the best ways of helping children and adults to change negative attitudes is to help them build their own self-esteem. It always comes down how we feel about ourselves. Unfortuantely we are taught from a young age that happiness comes from the external, and not from within ourselves.
Joseph Page
01:30:31
in the workplace, i think the dynamic is different, it's really sensitive because youre livlihood could be at stake, or your job may be threatened if your seen as not conforming or challenging the current system (power structure)
Joseph Page
01:30:44
your*
Adeline
01:30:47
yes!
suzanne
01:31:29
if you choose to speak up at work you are often seen as rebellious
suzanne
01:32:27
if you confront someone on the treatment not being across the board
Cassandra
01:32:34
Becoming confrontational
Enza Britos
01:32:59
Yes Fannie...at work you can simply just focus on the work and put your emotions/perceptions aside
Joseph Page
01:33:12
there are still power dynamics that exist
Enza Britos
01:33:23
but not everyone can do that
Jerine Faber
01:33:54
I too was taken back by the difference in the adult's action- righteous indignation as opposed the children's reactions- more like the light bulb going on. I supposed because the children have not experienced as many interactions.
suzanne
01:34:12
true
kowaleskis
01:34:15
I would love to do this in person.
suzanne
01:34:31
they have no filter
Camille
01:34:43
truthful
Adeline
01:34:53
Unfortunately fear is powerful, and paralyzes, and most people are afraid to rock the boat, and that is what negative people count on.
kowaleskis
01:35:25
I would also like to continue exploring these issues
karen
01:36:29
It's difficult to change negative people... you can only change the way you react to them. Sometimes that is easier said than done. Especially in the work place
Adeline
01:37:07
Rocking the boat is important because that is how we begin to change our perspective, pain is great motivator
rrondinelli
01:37:22
Sometimes a conversation is necessary and can make a change / better understanding. Keep the environment postive!
Camille
01:38:30
I don't think such a place exists. And rocking the boat can be a good thing.
Adeline
01:39:06
Those people live in a dream world. It is difficult, but it is learning how to communicate. It is not WHAT is said, it is HOW it said.
karen
01:41:26
Thanks Fanny! This was fantastic!
Enza Britos
01:41:43
Thank you!!
amorales
01:41:45
Thank you Fannie!
suzanne
01:41:50
thank you
NPulcino
01:41:54
thank you
Cassandra
01:41:57
THANKS!
Adeline
01:41:58
Awesome! Thanks