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Angela Davis - Shared screen with speaker view
Z! Haukeness
20:37
https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=CFI-SURJ Closed Captioning
Clarissa Rogers
22:15
It did not freeze on my end
Z! Haukeness
22:28
I think that is just your computer… if it keeps happening you can mute your video for better connection
Clarissa Rogers
22:40
Sometimes logging out and back in helps with glitches
Z! Haukeness
24:08
Thank you
Christopher Probst
25:11
Good Evening Dr. Davis
Christopher Probst
25:39
You are doing great! And I think we are all grateful you are doing this
Kay Lathrop
25:48
Thank you for doing your webinar with this group!
Jennifer ODonnell
26:21
Hello from Buddhist Action Coalition, thank you for doing this webinar
Carla Wallace
27:00
Beautiful. Thank you for being here.
Ann Gilmore
27:36
Greetings from Mashpee,MA, the Land of the Wampanoag! Thank you for being here with us, Dr. Davis!
Meredith on Tech (she/her)
28:00
Change your view to speaker view
Tawnee Waldron
28:06
Thank you Dr. Davis for spending your time with us. I am so honored to be in your presence! Thank you organizers for inviting Dr. Davis.
Clarissa Rogers
29:10
We are not using the hand raising system tonight. Please type any comments or questions in the chat
Meredith on Tech (she/her)
31:12
If you would like to focus your view on just Dr. Davis, choose "Speaker View" in the upper right.
Kay Lathrop
32:28
I don't see that option tonight. Do others? I'm very familiar with Zoom and don't have that option on this webinar.
chanelle gallant
32:31
Thanks! Im trying this and only getting the option of “full screen” or “exit full screen”?
Rachel Hoff
32:39
I'm not seeing it either
marioncarroll
32:41
same
Robert W Neill Jr
32:48
I dont see that option either
Will Neff
32:52
I am also familiar with Zoom and this is a different view than I am familiar with
Clarissa Rogers
33:16
There should be a place in the upper right with a choice between “gallery” and “speaker” view
Tawnee Waldron
33:23
It’s not an option for this call due to the settings the host has saved
Will Neff
33:51
I think there may be a setting from the tech admin side—for example, I can’t see my own image, or my option to mute myself—which I normally see. I’m hoping that I’m automatically muted, and there is only 6 panelists who will be seen or heard on this webinar…?
Christopher Probst
34:12
Thank-you for mentionning Black Trans women
Carla Wallace
34:21
Yes. To get speaker view It is upper right icon that looks like a square of dots.
Meredith on Tech (she/her)
36:09
hopefully fixed
Kay Lathrop
36:21
yes!
Joss Greene
36:22
thank you @meredith!
Kay Lathrop
36:26
thank you!
Rachel Hoff
36:38
Thanks, @Meredith
Will Neff
00:36:48
Now I have speaker view
no option to choose from participant mode
Are all participants automatically muted?
Alena Acker
36:54
Thanks, Meredith <3
Rachel Hoff
39:22
Reminds me of 18th century Great Britain in a lot of ways.
Z! Haukeness
40:43
Thank you for the question
chanelle gallant
41:37
good lord this genius.
nick carmack
41:45
Anyone have book recommendations on contemporary global capitalism?
chanelle gallant
42:05
Read Robin DG Kelley! on racial capitalism
Rachel Hoff
42:26
Thanks @chanelle. I was about to ask the same question.
Clarissa Rogers
42:28
No, we are not using the question and answer function
Clarissa Rogers
42:43
Ask I the chat. We are copying questions into a do
Clarissa Rogers
42:47
sorry, doc
Carla Wallace
43:08
Please put your questions in the chat as the second part of the call is questions from the chat
Kay Lathrop
43:23
Read Ray Dalio's work on reforming capitalism
Clarissa Rogers
44:03
Re: books on capitalism Naomi Klien’s Shock Doctrine
chanelle gallant
44:47
haaaayyy Love back at your from Toronto
Harshita Gupta
45:13
do you have a particular vision for a more just economic system? some folks say that the particular form of our capitalism is rotten, others say that the profit motive entirely is rotten; are there other foundational principles you think our economic system should be based on or not based on?
Abigail Rall
47:17
What are some core principles that you live by?
Cecelia Towner
47:33
Can we eliminate racism by focusing on white supremacy and white classism/poverty? Why or why not?
ClarissaRogers
47:34
Reparations-is political system the way to fight for this, if not, what is?
Christopher Probst
47:53
yes that would be wonderful, no nation state!
Jennifer ODonnell
47:56
Question for later from Buddhist Action Coalition: In what ways can we begin to dismantle incorporated systemic racism? Especially in light of oncoming climate consequences which will effect vulnerable POC populations.
nick carmack
48:04
Is there a specific time for Q&A?
Clarissa Rogers
48:34
Yes, Z! Will be reading and facilitating questions a bit later
nick carmack
49:02
Should we be saving our questions until then?
Clarissa Rogers
49:20
No, feel free to ask at any time
Clarissa Rogers
49:27
We are collecting them in a doc
Alena Acker
49:29
A question for Dr. Davis from some members of SURJ NYC: You spoke about the prison industrial complex and SURJ NYC is facing a related challenge. The mayor has put forth a plan to (theoretically) close the jails on Rikers Island, but instead proposes to spend about $10 billion to build four new, smaller, "more humane" borough-based jails. One of SURJ NYC's official accountability partners has a campaign called Close Rikers that supports the city's plan for borough-based jails, albeit with some reservations, and SURJ NYC is currently an official backer of the campaign, with some SURJ NYC members publicly speaking out in support of it. The Close Riker campaign organizers are directly impacted Black and Brown people, but the organization as a whole is funded by major white-led foundations and corporations.
Alena Acker
49:56
Meanwhile another campaign, also led by directly impacted Black and Brown people, with no corporate or foundation support, demands that Rikers be closed without creating new borough-based jails and that the $10 billion be invested instead in the communities of Black and Brown people. The second group has asked SURJ NYC to cease support of the city's plan to build new jails and to consider endorsing its Meanwhile another campaign, also led by directly impacted Black and Brown people, with no corporate or foundation support, demands that Rikers be closed without creating new borough-based jails and that the $10 billion be invested instead in the communities of Black and Brown people. The second group has asked SURJ NYC to cease support of the city's plan to build new jails and to consider endorsing its platform of abolition. For white people seeking to undermine white supremacy in ourselves and white supremacist institutions, what principals can you suggest as guidance in making this decision?
Carla Wallace
50:06
Put them in now as we have a couple folks who will be pulling from them. Of course we cannot ask them all, but we will try and choose as many as we can.
ClarissaRogers
50:10
as you first shared young person told man calling the police not to. He obviously did not learn that at home. is this just going to happen?
Joss Greene
50:30
(?) Sometimes prison/jail expansion is advocated for by people of color (example: Just Leadership USA supporting de Blasio’s jail expansion in NYC). Does Dr. Davis have recommendations for how white antiracists engage our POC movement partners while staying true to the fight for abolition?
nick carmack
51:39
Dr. Davis said, “we don’t have the answers.” With this as a starting point, how can we use the Black Liberation and Indigenous resistance struggles (here and abroad) as a framework for resistance of a globalized and radicalized capitalist state that increasingly disregards all of us and our planet?
Christopher Probst
52:36
I have a question but I understant if it can not be addressed. When James Baldwin wrote an open letter to you while you were incarcerated? Did you actually receive the letter? What did it mean to you? The letter is here. It is beautifully writtenhttps://www.nybooks.com/articles/1971/01/07/an-open-letter-to-my-sister-miss-angela-davis/
Susan Shawl
52:50
Also in Palestine it’s horrible.
cynthia Campbell
53:24
AMEN... fight police brutality everywhere
Carla Wallace
54:14
So much to learn from struggles internationally! YES!
Christopher Probst
54:30
this is awesome!
Abigail Rall
55:10
How can we grapple with the aspirational goal of prison abolition, while acknowledging the toll that journey may take on incarcerated people's current material conditions? How do might we work with prison reform efforts as stepping stones toward abolition?
Susan Shawl
55:23
Would you please keep the chat and send it out to all since it’s hard to read the chat and also listen.
Keyan Bliss
55:58
I think this conversation about capitalism is timely given today is the day the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868… Perhaps you’re already aware of this, but despite it’s intention to protect the citizenship and civil liberties of Black people during the Reconstruction period, corporate-owning white men were able to convince the US Supreme Court to grant their corporations the same equal protection and due process rights under the 14th amendment back in 1886 — opening the door for corporations to claim the additional human rights under the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments. And in countless instances over the last 130+ years, the courts have treated corporations as “persons” longer than men of color and women of ALL colors… So my QUESTION to Angela in regards to our national strategy: Would you consider the abolition of this court-created doctrine of “corporate constitutional rights” to be an important, if not necessary step, to dismantling white supremacy and racial capitalism?
Keyan Bliss
57:13
(In the United States, at least)*
Jessica Reese
57:52
^^thank you for your question, Abigail R.! I had a similar q about how to pursue reform while rooted in abolition and hadn't figured out how to articulate it.
Susan Shawl
58:54
JVP started in Berkeley in 1996. It wasn’t around in the 60’s.
Carla Wallace
59:06
YAAAAA! Free Palestine!
Eric Wilhelm
59:57
I think americans are afraid of admitting that we are on settled, colonized land, so naturally we side with the settler Israeli state
Cynthia Newcomer
01:00:33
Abolition vs. reform, check out Critical Resistance site. They have a resource on reforms that are on the road to abolition vs those that further prop up police state
Susan Andersen
01:00:36
Could you say something about how declaring worldwide climate emergency all over the the world could help bring people throughout the world together to address the challenge? And part of that is acknowledging that we in more “developed” countries have done so by robbing other countries of resources and increasing their vulnerability to the effects of global warming.
Christopher Probst
01:01:29
Is it possible to find joy and fun in struggle?
Rachel Hoff
01:01:50
I remember reading about that.
Matthew Jones
01:02:59
How can we apply intersectional work to the progressive/left/antiracist/anticapitalist spaces while maintaining kindness and compassion towards ourselves and others? So much of the work between systems, institutions and interpersonal work tends to conflate quickly and devolve into a war of personalities and identities, losing sight of the things we share in common, which is fracturing the movement.
Kay Lathrop
01:04:03
I second the desire to receive the chat thread as there is so much here and I am trying to stay focused!
Christopher Probst
01:04:41
yes she is fading out
Kelly Morrissey
01:04:42
Yes, she’s going in and out.
Tawnee Waldron
01:04:42
yes her audio is goin gout
Robert W Neill Jr
01:04:44
I cant hear Erin either
valyncia raphael
01:04:48
It is - she asked about roadblocks
Kay Lathrop
01:04:48
my audio is wobbling too...
Karen Wolf
01:04:54
audio is in and out. The word she’s trying to hear is “roadblocks"
Rachel Hoff
01:05:27
Buffy Sainte-Marie has a song on her Coincidence and Likely Stories album, called "Pretty Good for Kindergarten". It reminds me that we're doing ok, we just need to keep advancing and not give up.
Christopher Probst
01:05:39
Invidualism is our nemesis! YES!
Carla Wallace
01:05:41
Thank you Matthew!
Russell Nadel
01:06:16
"Individualism is really our nemesis" - YES!! Zaretta Hammond wrote wonderfully about this in "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain."
Kay Lathrop
01:06:23
yes, as long as we keep ourselves separate and as "individual" we will have these problems.
Will Wylie
01:06:29
can you link to that abolition vs reform resource on critical resistance?
Karen Wolf
01:07:37
Matthew Jones, re: your question, I highly recommend Ann Russo’s Feminist Accountability.
Joss Greene
01:07:51
hi all! abolitionist vs. reformist policing reforms from Critical Resistance: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59ead8f9692ebee25b72f17f/t/5b65cd58758d46d34254f22c/1533398363539/CR_NoCops_reform_vs_abolition_CRside.pdf
Will Wylie
01:08:16
ty!
Matthew Jones
01:08:36
Thanks!
Cynthia Newcomer
01:09:32
In addition to the reforms vs. abolition, critical resistance has many other resources including an abolitionist toolkit http://criticalresistance.org/resources/the-abolitionist-toolkit/
Carla Wallace
01:09:38
Everyone who registered will get the recording.
Clarissa Rogers
01:09:52
Yes, we will make the recording available to everyone who registered, and post it on our website. We will include the abolition vs reform piece from Critical Resistence
Katharine Harkins
01:10:20
Thank you — can’t stay on conference any longer but have appreciated it!
Rachel Hoff
01:11:14
Will the chat be part of the recording or available separately at all? Some of the resources and questions are really valuable.
Clarissa Rogers
01:11:46
We can save the chat and send it.
Rachel Hoff
01:11:57
Are they willing to go through all the crap you had to go through? lol
Matthew Jones
01:12:37
^ ++++ #privilegecheck
Matthew Jones
01:12:44
Agreed :)
Rachel Hoff
01:12:52
Exactly.
Carla Wallace
01:13:14
Arts and Culture as central to change making.
Keyan Bliss
01:13:46
Thank you for all the resources. I’ll add to the pot for more info on intersections with corporate constitutional rights: https://movetoamend.org/toolkit/corporate-hijacking-us-constitution
Rachel Hoff
01:13:54
Patrisse Cullors is an artist, and I think that's one of the ways she is able to do what she does with Black Lives Matter.
Jennifer ODonnell
01:14:49
Comment on Building collective activism, and moving away from individualism from Buddhist Action Coalition: we have the concept of “non-self” in our practice and recognition of interdependence on other people, sentient beings, the environment. With the relentless capitalistic promotion of self identity and individual wealth and status, it’s no wonder that those who prop up this system consciously use dividing tactics on activist movements and well as communities in general to silence voices of resistance. We should work internally to be conscious of these motives and support our movements.
Will Wylie
01:15:14
anatman
Colin Berry
01:16:36
“Struggle as if victory were right around the corner.”
Rachel Hoff
01:16:49
There ARE victorieS around the corner. Thanks to all of the work that people have been doing since the 50s.
Christopher Probst
01:17:41
I loved Dr. Davis before now I love her even more!
Cecelia Towner
01:17:42
What is the best way for white people to avoid recreating racism and white supremacy, as they try to dismantle white supremacy?
Carla Wallace
01:19:00
Importance of white Southern organizers, like Anne Braden.
Susan Andersen
01:22:07
Equal Justice Initiative and Bryan Stevenson
Murphy Austin
01:25:12
how do can we as white people move productively in conflicts around prison/jail abolition and reform or improving conditions?
Carla Wallace
01:26:32
“Most important part of reparations has to be about institutional change”.
Kay Lathrop
01:26:50
Marianne Williamson's racial healing and reparations plan does offer money directly to individuals or a "check"...rather a reparations council and the money being disbursed for economic and educational projects and the council would determine the projects.
Rachel Hoff
01:27:05
Do you think that America is ready for a nationwide Truth and Reconciliation process?
Kay Lathrop
01:27:07
Doesn't - it should read
Kay Lathrop
01:27:44
CORRECTED: Marianne Williamson's racial healing and reparations plan does not offer money directly to individuals or a "check"...rather a reparations council and the money being disbursed for economic and educational projects and the council would determine the projects.
Carla Wallace
01:27:50
Free college tuition—for everyone.
Jennifer Hackleman
01:28:47
Who are you planning on voting for (if anyone) in the upcoming democrat election?
ClarissaRogers
01:28:56
like black panthers free breakfast
Carla Wallace
01:29:05
“Imaging how we want to refashion our world”—for everyone.
Heather MacKay
01:30:04
how do you feel about universal basic income?
Ryan Davis
01:30:31
San Francisco also recently abolished youth prisons. https://truthout.org/articles/san-francisco-joins-national-push-to-abolish-youth-prisons/
Erin Mathieu
01:31:14
What are your thoughts on the Democratic candidates for the 2020 presidential election? What would you like to see them do more or less of?
Kay Lathrop
01:31:48
APPLAUSE
Colin Berry
01:32:08
What an elegant statesperson. Thank you!
Joss Greene
01:32:15
A limited focus on prison or detention conditions can prevent us from seeing that “prison are the most dramatic expression of structural racism… If we want to change we have to call for abolition of the entire system.”
Jennifer ODonnell
01:32:40
Campaign Finance reform, so we actually have genuine elections of people who represent citizens.
Scott Limbacher
01:32:43
What can we do as abolitionists to respond to reform movements that aim to build new prisons in order to close old ones - particularly when that’s done in the name of harm reduction?
Jennifer ODonnell
01:33:21
Separation of corp and state laws
Briayna Cuffie
01:34:36
There's currently a recount happening for Caban's election in Queens. So close. I have my fingers crossed for her
Ann Gilmore
01:35:23
and Rachel Rollins in Suffolk County MA
Samantha Sachs
01:36:53
Adding to the group of folks interested in hearing about navigation the CloseRikers issue - any guidance on how to reconcile a policy that both 1) is wrapped up in those capitalist temporalities Dr Davis spoke of, allocating money to jails albeit in the name of shrinking overall capacity, and 2) responds to urgent calls from directly impacted people of color about the specific conditions of one place (Rikers Island)? And specifically how to reconcile that as white people, working from a place of solidarity and accountability.
Christopher Probst
01:38:18
Build Communities not jails!
Samantha Sachs
01:38:57
If possible cold the question be framed specifically in terms of Rikers?
Eric Wilhelm
01:39:06
I'm wondering why NYC SURJ is taking guidance from a corporate funded group that makes such compromises
Keyan Bliss
01:39:43
For-profit prison corporations have managed to double their profits in recent years, and those same corporations have the same constitutional rights as human beings… Alongside prison abolition, do you see the abolition of corporate constitutional rights to be an important, if not necessary, step towards dismantling white supremacy and racial capitalism?
Joss Greene
01:39:48
Dr. Davis’ response re: what to do in response to proposed plans to respond to reform movements that aim to build new prisons in order to close old ones— ““Call for a moratorium on jail building/prison building. there should be no new jails and prisons. there are already too many. and the argument that we need to deal with overcrowding is the perennial argument. that is the reason why there are so many jails and prisons in the country today. that’s always the argument. but then the new jail or the new prison becomes overcrowded, oftentimes almost immediately. and thuhs the necessity to build another one. i would say the way to respond to it is to build a campaign and stand up and say no more prisons, no more jails!”
Abigail Rall
01:39:51
How can we grapple with the aspirational goal of prison abolition, while acknowledging the toll that journey may take on incarcerated people's current material conditions? How do might we work with prison reform efforts as stepping stones toward abolition?
Kelly Morrissey
01:40:23
Woot. Thank you!!! Capitalism is not working.
Abigail Rall
01:40:25
What are some values and principles that you live by or that guide your research and work?
anice chenault
01:42:07
we're not fighting for the right to participate in the oppressive systems. We are fighting for the right to dismantle them.
Lydia Hooper
01:42:56
Dr.Davis: how can we best “call in” more white women to work to dismantle ALL forms of oppression? how can using a feminist lens help bring racial equity to the fore?
cynthia Campbell
01:43:05
yes!!!! housing ..medical care...
Susan Andersen
01:44:47
“Environmental Issues should be ground zero of social justice.”
Robert W Neill Jr
01:44:58
that is a great quote
ClarissaRogers
01:45:12
Monsanto colonizing
Matthew Jones
01:45:24
Cooperation Jackson is doing amazing intersectional work in this area - https://cooperationjackson.org/
Keyan Bliss
01:45:37
Green New Deal would be fantastic, but as long as fossil fuel corporations have the same constitutional rights as human beings, any law or policy that comes from it can be overturned by the Supreme Court under the 5th and 14th amendments. https://movetoamend.org/toolkit/ending-fossil-fuel-use-linked-ending-corporate-constitutional-rights-abuse
Rachel Hoff
01:46:21
My sense is that we need to listen to Indigenous and Black leaders in environmental justice.
Cecelia Towner
01:47:35
Dr. Davis, would it be beneficial to create a campaign based in basic humn needs as basic human rights... as a foundation for all movements?
Heather MacKay
01:47:55
"Water has the power to change everything. A single splash can sprout a seed, quench a thirst, provide a habitat, generate energy and sustain life. It also had the power to unite - or divide- the world. Water is the most basic and important need of all life on Earth."
Will Wylie
01:48:14
hi dr davis!
Joshua Schott
01:49:50
Some of us on the call are involved in an emerging network called Organizing White Men for Collective Liberation, whose aim is to bring more white men into anti-racist and feminist work. How do you see the role of white men in the struggle against patriarchy and white supremacy and organizing more white men to join those movements?
Clarissa Rogers
01:49:55
INS
ClarissaRogers
01:49:55
ins
Kari Points
01:49:57
INS
Rachel Hoff
01:50:03
Immigration and Nturalization Service
Rachel Hoff
01:50:30
It's all "La Migra"
Meredith on Tech (she/her)
01:50:55
She did answer this - you can scroll up the chat to see her answer.
Christopher Probst
01:51:01
I remember the INS asking me a question about moral turpitude.
Donald Sturke
01:51:20
Another question re overcrowding of prisons: Isn't it true that there are tens of thousands of people incarcerated, with decades remaining in their sentences, for non-violent drug "crimes" for which"reformed" sentencinng guidelines have reduced sentences for new individuals convicted of the same crimes?
Christopher Probst
01:51:46
The question was like "Have you ever engaged in moral turpidute?" And I was like "What the hell is moral turpitude?"
Christopher Probst
01:52:10
so i looked it up in the dictionary and was more confused
Will Neff
01:52:10
Can we ask the same about white men?!
Kari Points
01:52:20
yes!
Carla Wallace
01:53:29
YES! Working class white women and white women with a working class perspective—cross class movement building.
Kelly Morrissey
01:53:29
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Cecelia Towner
01:54:28
Could white focus on white supremacy actually entrench white supremacy?
nick carmack
01:55:05
Should we focus efforts more on those who are conscious or on the raising of critical consciousness?
Christopher Probst
01:55:07
92% of Black Women voted against Trump! Thank-you!
Cecelia Towner
01:55:36
This is how racism works...
Rachel Hoff
01:56:04
Slavery didn't end in 1865 either. Not until the 13th Amendment is edited to eliminate prisoner slaves.
Keyan Bliss
01:56:38
Too true, Ms. Davis…
Rachel Hoff
01:57:14
Ooooh! I need to tell my brother about that.
Kristen Payne
01:57:35
I recommend Anne Braden’s biography for those who want to learn more about this incredible white southern social justice activist
Will Wylie
01:58:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFkmRp_G2uo
Will Wylie
01:58:39
“None of us are free” - Solomon Burke
ClarissaRogers
01:58:55
YEEESSSS
Cecelia Towner
01:59:05
Is all this focus on white people actually erasing racial justice as a priority of SURJ?
Kate Cardona
01:59:40
What about the people we cannot convince who are in power or who benefit too well from white supremacist capitalism? In your profound experience, do you think that all people can be convinced? If not, then what does organizing look like that incorporates that information?
Kate Cardona
01:59:49
cannot be*
Christopher Probst
01:59:54
@Cecelia, great question! I was thinking the same thing
Kristen Payne
02:00:03
Angela Davis wrote the foreword for the book..this is the info for Anne Braden’s book I mentioned earlier: Fosl, Catherine. 2006. Subversive Southerner: Anne Braden and the Struggle for Racial Justice in the Cold War South. University Press of Kentucky
Kelly Morrissey
02:00:10
Good point, @Cecelia.
ClarissaRogers
02:00:11
mmmhmm
Keyan Bliss
02:00:33
Fun fact about women’s rights vs. corporate rights: while women were denied 14th Amendment’s equal protections in the first decade after it was ratified (Minor v. Hapersett 1874), corporations recognized as having equal protection as early as 1886. The Supreme Court wouldn’t apply equal protection to women until 1971’s Reed v. Reed — nearly 100 years AFTER corporations.
Colin Berry
02:00:48
She’s exactly right about men — we let our peers off the hook all the time.
Cecelia Towner
02:00:59
Are white people really listening to Angela Davis? Are the people choosing the questions actually seeking to grow as white people? And if not, what is the point of this call?
Keyan Bliss
02:00:59
^^^ Yup.
nick carmack
02:01:04
What is the name of the referenced group?
Colin Berry
02:01:04
Some of us are determined to address that.
Leslie Allee
02:01:46
Much Love Dr. Davis
Clarissa Rogers
02:02:15
We include the name of the group referred to in our follow up material. I’m having trouble remembering their name right now
Rachel Hoff
02:02:15
@Cecilia, I'm pretty sure we are. She's inspired me to get more involved. Going to look for a SURJ group in my area.
Mara Brennan
02:02:28
“be transactional with systems, be transformational with people” — desiree adaway
Colin Berry
02:02:29
Nick Carmack — it’s called Organizing White Men for Collective Liberation. It’s a new SURJ group.
Carla Wallace
02:03:17
SURJ formed in response to the call from POC for the need to organize white people for racial justice. Those of us who are white, as Black Liberation leaders said over a half century ago, are the problem in moving this country and our international policies in a humane and just direction. This is our work, and we need to look at what communities of white folks, are most likely to move with a liberation vision largely set by People of Color, Indigenous people.
Tom Weinreich
02:03:37
you can join the OWMCL (white men organizing) email list at https://actionnetwork.org/forms/sign-up-for-email-list-3
Joshua Schott
02:04:04
actually we have a new one Tom haha!
Joshua Schott
02:04:07
https://actionnetwork.org/forms/organizing-white-men-collective-liberation-email-list
Clarissa Rogers
02:04:08
For folx looking for a SURJ chapter near them, here’s the list https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/chapters-and-affiliates.html
Veronica Dougherty
02:04:11
@cecilia great question
Tom Weinreich
02:04:18
oops. thx for fixing.
Rachel Hoff
02:04:25
Thank you @clarissa!
Greg Horwitch
02:05:10
Nick and others, you can also email Organizing White Men for Collective Liberation at againstsexismandracism@gmail.com
Carla Wallace
02:05:44
Many SURj chapters are multi racial. Its is not about SURJ being only white folks (which it is not) it is about a focus on doing the organizing in largely white communities, undermining white supremacy and its hold. That is our work.
Cecelia Towner
02:05:44
@Rachel H, I'm Black... I've been asking questions and none have been asked. I started a SURJ, and the questions are because of some concerns I have... :)
Christopher Probst
02:05:52
This here is still so relevanthttps://www.nybooks.com/articles/1971/01/07/an-open-letter-to-my-sister-miss-angela-davis/
Cynthia Newcomer
02:06:07
tom w, the owmcl link doesn't work
Joshua Schott
02:06:25
https://actionnetwork.org/forms/organizing-white-men-collective-liberation-email-list
Joshua Schott
02:06:27
this is the new one
Rachel Hoff
02:06:53
@Cecelia, thank you for bringing that up. I hope that the organizers see this.
Rachel Hoff
02:08:14
Please do! :)
Susan McCabe
02:09:44
Thank you, Dr. Davis, for the inspiration!
Cecelia Towner
02:10:04
@Rachel, I also hope that... & I'm pretty sure they have.
Jim Edler
02:10:28
White on White is a format when led by well-trained, white , aware and experienced trainers who are connected and receptive to guidance and direction from Communities of Color can find a powerful liberating experience by addressing our white problem, our acculturation, and our white centeredness as critical pre work to working for organizational, institutional and systemic change--- Liberation of oppressed victims as well as freeing up white folks from being wrapped around trying to prove we aren't racist and implicated in the white problem in America! Get rid of everyone's handcuffs while unlocking the crushing racism of victims of color...
Susan McCabe
02:10:51
Do they take American immigrants in Uruguay?
Colin Berry
02:10:58
This was two hours well spent. Thank you, Dr. Davis! I felt incredibly inspired.
Lydia Hooper
02:11:02
@Cecelia I appreciated this one: What is the best way for white people to avoid recreating racism and white supremacy, as they try to dismantle white supremacy? Thanks for asking!
Rachel Hoff
02:11:08
@Susan I'd gladly go with you!
Regan Brashear
02:11:12
Thank you!!!!
Cynthia Newcomer
02:11:21
Thanks SURJ and Dr. Davis!
Ann Gilmore
02:11:24
Thank You!!!
Itara O'Connell
02:11:25
WOW- how wonderful. What a special webcast.
nick carmack
02:11:25
Thank you Ms. Davis!!!!
Brax Tinkler
02:11:26
Thank you, Dr. Davis!
Christopher Probst
02:11:30
Thank-you Dr Davis. You made my day! And Thanks SURJ
Rachel Hoff
02:11:31
Thank you so much!
Susan Andersen
02:11:32
Bless you Dr. Davis, so much wisdom!
Robert W Neill Jr
02:11:33
This was a great experience
Kelly Morrissey
02:11:35
Thank you from Windsor, Ontario!
Rachel Bass
02:11:36
Thank you Dr. Davis <3
dayna rozental
02:11:39
Thank you!
Taylor Lewis
02:11:39
I love you Angela!!!!! You’re a LEGEND
Rachel Hoff
02:11:47
yaaaaaaaaay!
E Tisdale
02:11:51
Thank you from Texas
Karen Wolf
02:11:58
Thank you Dr. Davis!
Nancy Ruggeri
02:12:03
Thank you, Dr. Davis!!
Abigail Rall
02:12:05
thank you!!!!
Kate Cardona
02:12:08
Thank you so much, Dr. Davis!
Cathy Henschel-McGerry
02:12:09
Thank you Dr. Davis, for your wisdom and generosity.
Jocelyn Bergen
02:12:12
So grateful, thank you all and especially Dr. Davis.
Wilder Herbertson
02:12:19
Deep thanks to Dr. Davis and SURJ!!!
Lisa O&#39;Neill
02:12:21
thank you, Dr. Davis!
Abigail Rall
02:12:25
you're an inspiration and my hero. thank you for your work
Vini Emery
02:12:40
Thank you for your time and wisdom, Dr. Davis. Thank you, as well, to the panelist/ organizers
Pat Bryan
02:12:48
Thanks you so much for this opportunity to hear from Dr. Davis!
Kari Points
02:12:52
Huge thanks from Durham, NC, to you, Dr. Davis!
Z! Haukeness
02:13:17
actblue.com/donate/surj-highlander2019
Sharon Perez
02:13:35
Thank you so much Dr. Angela Davis. You are truly an inspiration. The impact and change you have made in this country is tremendous!!!
Z! Haukeness
02:13:35
actblue.com/donate/surj-highlander2019
ClarissaRogers
02:13:38
Highlander center has the first Black Executive director
Cynthia Newcomer
02:14:54
SURJ. I appreciated Cecilia's questions. Do you have any previous responses to questions like hers and if not, could you respond? I seem to remember an exchange with a BLM activist a year or two ago but can't remember her name or put my hands on your response. Thanks much!
Z! Haukeness
02:15:11
actblue.com/donate/surj-highlander2019
Z! Haukeness
02:15:38
Dean Spade on Solidarity Not Charity: Mutual Aid for Survival and Mobilization on August 15th at 8 ET / 7 CT / 6 MT / 5 PT https://www.facebook.com/events/352849315385011/
Cecelia Towner
02:15:51
DIDI Delgado
Z! Haukeness
02:16:00
10 year anniversary call https://www.facebook.com/events/2283780538504737/ Sunday July 14th at 5 ET / 4 CT / 3 MT / 2PT
Martha Lasley
02:16:05
Thank you Angela Davis for your inspiration!
ClarissaRogers
02:17:22
Thank u Dr Davis. And i sooooo appreciate u saying anne braden was your mentor
Christopher Probst
02:18:14
thank-you!
nick carmack
02:18:19
Thank you!!!
Bob Crawford
02:18:21
Thank you Carla and Dr. Davis