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Brenda Jay
01:36:08
Hello my name is Brenda Jay
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01:36:39 Marrietta: hello my name is marietta
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01:36:40 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Hi!
Sarah Stohr
01:36:42
Hi Everyone!
Jaci Alexander
01:36:47
Hello my name is Jaci
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01:36:52 Kayla: Hello, my name is Kayla
Heather Bennett
01:37:00
Hello my name is Heather
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01:37:02 chris: Hey Everyone. My name is Chris
Adam Kendall
01:37:08
Hello, I’m Adam.
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01:37:11 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Yes! We are here!
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01:37:12 Tanya: Hi, my name is Tanya
Alissa Thorson
01:37:13
Hello! My name is Alissa
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01:37:22 Marcia: hi everyone
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01:37:39 Christi: Hello everyone, I am Christi
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01:37:50 Owner: Hello! My name is Wendy
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01:38:03 Nick: Hi, my name is Nick
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01:38:12 lwest0415: Hello everyone, my name is Leslie
Lor Yang
01:38:13
your good
tammy lockhart
01:41:30
when you say Stenner stated......do you have to cite?
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01:42:13 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Tammy, if you say Stenner stated, that’s a PART of the citation. You still have to include information about the title/year. And if it is a direct quote, you have to include a page number or paragraph number. We will cover that in a bit.
tammy lockhart
01:42:39
ty
Brenda Jay
01:42:53
What do you do to site a passage from the HRM text book?
brenda aguilar
01:43:36
How do you cite from a vidoe that we have get information from it
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01:43:38 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Brenda: you would cite to a textbook the same as any other book. Author. date. Title. Publisher
Brenda Jay
01:43:52
Ok thank you
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01:45:44 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Brenda: our APA citation handout will give you information on citing a video - Preeti may go over this later. Here is the link: http://arc.national.edu/library/docs/APARefExFormats.pdf
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01:46:30 Becky: Can the abstract be included on the title page?
Brenda Jay
01:46:49
So when you are writing a APA proposal paper and the teacher states it needs to be 3 pages for the intro. What pages does this include?
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01:47:05 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Becky: No abstract on the title page
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01:47:22 Becky: thank you
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01:47:41 Tanya: Common knowledge tricks me up because if I write a paper about a topic related to Alaska (for example). If I said the Zipline in Hoonah is a 1320 foot drop or that when the fireweed bloom winter is near both are common knowledge to anyone in Alaska, but maybe not others. Do I need to spend time trying to find something to cite
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01:48:16 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Tanya: yes I think that specific fact should be cited.
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01:48:23 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Tanya, common knowledge is something you could expect -most- people to know. Most people wouldn’t know that info.
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01:48:39 Marcia: no
brenda aguilar
01:48:40
no
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01:48:42 chris: no
Alissa Thorson
01:48:42
no
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01:48:43 Dawn: no
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01:48:44 Tyson C.: No
Lor Yang
01:48:45
no
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01:48:47 Becky: no
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01:48:47 christina10303: no
Jaci Alexander
01:48:47
no
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01:48:50 Owner: No
Alissa Thorson
01:48:52
You're missing Running Head
Lor Yang
01:48:53
needs running head
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01:48:53 Marcia: affiliation not written out
tammy lockhart
01:48:55
header is wrong
Lor Yang
01:48:56
with :
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01:48:58 Marcia: missing running head
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01:48:59 Tyson C.: NAU should be spell out
Cindy Allen
01:48:59
no
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01:48:59 Becky: nau needs to be spelled out
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01:49:01 Nick: no
brenda aguilar
01:49:04
No header
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01:49:04 lwest0415: affiliation
Monica M Hernandez
01:49:14
needs to say running head
Jaci Alexander
01:50:51
Should the thesis statment be at the beginning or the end of the abstract?
Alissa Thorson
01:50:54
So then do you restate your thesis statement in your introduction paragraph?
Lor Yang
01:51:13
will you be able to demonstrate how to erase the running head part on the paper?
tammy lockhart
01:51:14
any indention on the abstract page?
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01:51:29 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: No indentation on the abstract page
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01:51:53 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Your abstract is just a summary of the paper. You don’t necessarily have to include your thesis statement as long as you let your reader know what your paper is about.
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01:52:34 Samantha: Hello all, I'm a little late. Just got off work!
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01:52:45 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Lor Yang: NAU has a template that will explain how to do a different first page. Here is the handout: http://arc.national.edu/library/docs/APAWordTemplate.pdf
Adam Kendall
01:52:52
With the indention, do you have to use the space 5 spaces, or is a tab okay to use?
Lor Yang
01:53:05
ok gotcha. thank you.
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01:53:07 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: The tab key should be fine to use for indenting.
Adam Kendall
01:53:22
Thank you Sarah.
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01:53:37 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Adam: Some professors require the 5 space indentation - check the professor's instructions.
Brenda Jay
01:53:52
I found at one point that the tab key was over 5 spaces and got marked down in Comp II fyi
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01:54:09 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Oh…that’s good to know! My tab just goes 5 spaces. I assumed everyone’s did!
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01:54:20 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Okay, Adam! Keep that in mind!
Brenda Jay
01:54:26
Sarah did you see my earlier?
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01:54:31 Dawn: I have a google chrome book does it still work the templates with my computer
Adam Kendall
01:54:32
That is good to know, I always thought that the tab was universal.
tammy lockhart
01:54:40
you can format your indention
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01:55:25 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Dawn, does your Chrome book have Word?
Lor Yang
01:55:29
haha
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01:56:09 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Brenda: Did you have a question we could answer?
Brenda Jay
01:56:14
So when you are writing a APA proposal paper and the teacher states it needs to be 3 pages for the intro. What pages does this include?
Lor Yang
01:56:29
It makes it very convienant for everyone
Monica M Hernandez
01:56:31
the body
Jaci Alexander
01:56:37
I think i misssed how to get there exactly.
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01:56:39 Dawn: it is kind of the same thing i have a tab under file that makes it microsofr word
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01:56:53 Marrietta: do we really need to write tables
Brenda Jay
01:56:55
Thank you Monica
Jaci Alexander
01:57:01
ok thank you
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01:57:09 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Brenda: I think you may need to ask the teacher about the 3 pages - an intro is usually about one page.
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01:57:19 Tyson C.: How do you delete those extra pages?
Brenda Jay
01:57:23
Yes that was what I was wondering .
Brenda Jay
01:57:36
Ok I will send an email
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01:59:15 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Tyson: which extra pages did you mean?
tammy lockhart
01:59:19
wow according to last statement i am doing it all wrong
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01:59:32 Tyson C.: the tables and figures at the bottom
Rebecca Heathcote
01:59:58
Can they be used interchangably?
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02:00:21 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Can what be used interchangeably, Rebecca?
Rebecca Heathcote
02:00:52
the sitation methods
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02:00:58 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: tyson: I highlight and delete the information. It should delete those pages.
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02:01:17 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Rebecca - do you mean in-text citations and reference citations? Which methods are you referring to?
Rebecca Heathcote
02:02:07
I figured it out. Thank you
Adam Kendall
02:03:24
Should the citing always be in red, or is that just for the purpose of this demonstration?
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02:03:42 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Not in red - just for example todya.
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02:03:43 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Just for the demo. Your citation should be in black like the rest of your text.
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02:03:53 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: today!
Adam Kendall
02:03:57
Cool. Thank you.
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02:04:55 bloxx: very helpful
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02:05:24 RYAN: I down loaded an article from the NAU library and it was say 20 pages in length but as I read it a particular page might say 812 which page number do I use?
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02:05:25 Marrietta: yes, very helpful, before I am confused, now i learned
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02:05:32 Tyson C.: Marsha, the running head and page numbers still remain after highlighting the deleting the information
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02:05:34 Kayla: What if there are two dates? One date that it was published and another date that it was revised. Do you use the publish date or the revised date?
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02:06:33 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Tyson: try double-clicking in the header to delete the running heard. I will check on deleting a page.
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02:06:40 Chris: When you do that in the manage sources do you put it before the period or after?
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02:07:16 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Kayla, typically you cite to the version you read. Here’s an example with a book: http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2012/03/citing-an-edition-of-a-book-in-apa-style.html
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02:07:33 Cathy: do you have to use the and sign when quotating multiples author's?
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02:08:10 Kayla: Thank you Sarah
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02:08:32 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Cathy, APA uses the ampersand (&) instead of the word ‘and.’ If there are a LOT of authors, you use ‘et al.’ http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-style.html
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02:10:08 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Chris, I’m not sure what you’re referring to (we’re going so fast!). Can you give me more info?
Adam Kendall
02:10:57
So we do not have to include the web address for a website citation?
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02:10:57 Chris: I saw it in what she was going through. Thanks
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02:11:29 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Adam - if you are citing a website, you typically include the url.
tammy lockhart
02:11:30
when your paraphrasing a website you just cite the writer?
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02:11:32 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Tyson: try backspacing the tables page
Adam Kendall
02:11:52
That’s what I thought. Thanks Sarah.
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02:12:06 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Tammy, in the in-text citation, you cite the author and date. But then in the reference page you have to give ALL the info.
Brenda Jay
02:12:24
Learned about word count today.!!! yea!!
tammy lockhart
02:12:48
yea
Alissa Thorson
02:13:24
Marsha - Is this a little different from legal writing? Am I crazy; I thought the citation was a part of the next paragraph.
Lor Yang
02:13:47
I know somtimes its hard to change the words around to summarize the in-text words
Lor Yang
02:13:49
yes
Brenda Jay
02:13:52
yes
Brenda Jay
02:14:13
cant read the whole message
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02:14:23 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Scroll down to see all of the questions.
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02:14:30 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Yes, Alissa, this is different than legal citation. In legal citation, the citation is the next sentence. See John Doe v. Joe Smith, 345 N.W.2d 234 (1965).
Lor Yang
02:14:30
I cant see the poll
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02:14:39 Chris: b
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02:14:48 Marrietta: b
Dana Garcia
02:14:51
Both
Brenda Jay
02:14:52
you have to move the poll box
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02:14:53 Dawn: b
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02:14:54 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: The poll should just pop up. Maybe move your browser window.
Lor Yang
02:15:02
ok i got it
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02:15:04 chris: b
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02:15:04 Sara: i can see the poll not the examples
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02:15:08 Cathy: its blocking the intext
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02:15:09 Kingsbury: missing cant read move poll box
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02:15:15 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Preeti, you’re okay. You don’t have to do anything.
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02:15:24 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: It’s each student/viewer that needs to.
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02:15:30 christina10303: cant move the poll box
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02:15:35 Tanya: you can move the poll box
Alissa Thorson
02:16:03
Thank you, Marsha! Thought I was going crazy for a second!
Lor Yang
02:16:06
both
Lor Yang
02:16:41
it needs the page number
Monica M Hernandez
02:16:42
page
Lor Yang
02:16:47
so only A
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is correct
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02:17:14 Dallas: Oops, I accidentally hit "submit" on the poll. Can someone please send it back to me so I can answer questions 2 & 3?
Brenda Jay
02:17:33
Mine just disappeared Dallas
tammy lockhart
02:17:41
mine too
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02:17:43 Dallas: Thanks Brenda.
Brenda Jay
02:17:48
YW
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02:17:48 Dallas: And Tammy...
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02:18:49 Dallas: Marsha and/or Sarah, I heard that we receive a certificate at the end of this webinar...is this accurate?
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02:18:58 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Dallas - yes. At the end! :)
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02:19:00 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: yes!
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02:19:12 Dallas: Outstanding! Thank you both!!!
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02:19:37 Dallas: I'm hanging it up above my nightstand. :)
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02:20:00 Kayla: Sorry I have to ask, but how long is the webinar? I have to pick up my son soon.
Brenda Jay
02:20:01
Look at you!!!
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02:20:07 Dallas: 1 Hour
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02:20:07 Cathy: Do you have to use numbers next to the references?
Brenda Jay
02:20:18
She said 15 more minutes I do beliee
Brenda Jay
02:20:24
believe
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02:20:28 Kayla: Thank you
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02:20:28 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: No - the references aren't numbered
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02:20:49 Dallas: Kayla, if you live in Vegas, I can go pick him up for you. :)
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02:21:31 Kayla: Dallas I'm in Kansas City.. A long way from Vegas
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02:22:12 Dallas: I'm sorry then Kayla; I can't help. This part of APA is very important to know though.
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02:22:46 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Reference page examples handout: http://arc.national.edu/library/docs/APARefExFormats.pdf
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02:22:53 christina10303: n mk8u9.,.,.miooooooo,m....y776 6t m6m,=+ vmmvvvvvvvvv
tammy lockhart
02:23:46
so enlightened now
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02:23:58 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Yes, Tammy. This is next-level APA! :)
tammy lockhart
02:24:01
just in time for next weeks paper. LOL
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02:24:46 Dallas: Marsha, I wish I knew how to access that handout in the beginning of my English Comp I and II courses a while back...it would've been beneficial. The NAU Library was hard to navigate at first; especailly trying to find scholary, peer-reviewed articles. Luckily, I had a good intructor who was patient with me.
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02:25:02 Dallas: especially*
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02:25:41 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Thanks for that feedback, Dallas. We hold a webinar each quarter for students who need an intro to using the library (and finding scholarly peer-reviewed articles!). That’s excellent that your instructor was able to work with you.
tammy lockhart
02:25:53
this is my second webinar with the Librarians. I think they are awesome and really reach out to us online students.
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02:25:56 Marrietta: thanks
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02:26:03 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: I am glad you found the information - please spread the word that Ask-a-Librarian and the campus librarians can always help!
Adam Kendall
02:26:16
Is there any particular way that the references need to be listed in the reference page? Like books first, then periodicals, then broadcasts, etc?
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02:26:32 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Alphabitized by author, Adam.
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02:26:39 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Adam: Alphabetical order by author
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02:26:41 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: alphabetized.
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02:26:47 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: I can’t spell today!
Brenda Jay
02:27:08
Haha it's ok Sarah
Adam Kendall
02:27:11
So books don’t have to be grouped with other books, and magazines with other magazines, etc…
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02:27:15 Dallas: That's good to know Sarah. I found that if I take the time to read the main page posts, I would've known that. Silly me.
Brenda Jay
02:27:20
You are still fabulous!
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02:27:32 Dallas: And yes, Marsha, I will definitely spread the knowledge.
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02:27:33 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: No, Adam. They all get merged into one big cluster, organized alphabetically by author.
Adam Kendall
02:27:44
Cool.
tammy lockhart
02:28:04
note to self. use as little books as possible. LOL. JK
Brenda Jay
02:28:14
IKR lol
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02:28:59 Kelly: Lot more here than Purdue Owl shows lol
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02:29:04 Dallas: Marsha or Sarah, is it a requirement to have your references double-spaced?
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02:29:17 Kelly: References are supposed to be single spaced
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02:29:21 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Dallas, yes. Everything gets double-spaced in APA.
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02:29:23 Chris: where is this located?
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02:29:37 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: On our APA page, Chris: http://library.national.edu/apa-style/formatting-and-style-2/
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02:29:47 Dallas: Thanks Sarah - I thought so.
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02:29:50 Kelly: Are you sure? My instructors have made me single space out my reference page and said it was wrong to double space it.
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02:30:41 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Your instructor may want something different. But typically, the whole paper including references is double-spaced.
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02:30:42 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Some instructors have their own instructions. Respectfully clarify
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02:30:42 Dallas: I was curious because I double-spaced mine in my previous class and the current slides in this webinar appears to be single-spaced?
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02:31:03 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: That’s just on the handout to save space. But this is good feedback. Maybe it’s confusing to have it looking that way.
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02:31:11 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: I think the single-space is to save space in the handout.
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02:31:14 Cathy: Does the website has to be italized
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02:31:28 Kelly: Okay thanks.
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02:31:32 Dallas: Gotcha! Thanks Sarah and Marsha.
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02:31:33 Chris: thanks
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02:32:01 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: The website document should be italicized.
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02:32:29 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: The title of the website document should be italicized, I should have said.
tammy lockhart
02:33:35
ty for clarifying that incorrectness.
Adam Kendall
02:34:34
If the title in the journal is in all caps, would you change the title to be both caps and lowercase on the reference page?
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02:34:46 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Yes, Adam. All caps is no good!
Adam Kendall
02:34:57
That’s good to know.
Adam Kendall
02:35:02
Thank you.
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02:35:15 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: Sometimes, the database gets the citation wrong, so always double-check,
tammy lockhart
02:35:29
yep and the free ms word was easy to download to all my devices
Adam Kendall
02:35:37
In Microsoft Word, will the citation template automatically indent the second line?
Lor Yang
02:35:42
This very very useful information.
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02:36:03 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Hi Adam - my version of the template indents the second line (aka a hanging indent)
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02:36:06 Kelly: I see it.
Lor Yang
02:36:08
yes
Scotty Hicks
02:36:09
yes
Lor Yang
02:36:12
i can see it
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02:36:15 Marcia: authors names should not be in all caps
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02:36:40 Tanya: should not be in all caps
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02:36:40 Dawn: all caps is not right
Brenda Jay
02:36:53
All CAPS
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02:36:59 Nick: All caps is not needed in reference
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02:37:00 Marrietta: all caps
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02:37:52 Marrietta: cannot see the whole sentence
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02:37:54 Dawn: summer
Lor Yang
02:38:11
Its from NAU
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02:38:16 Sarah Stohr, NAU Librarian: Something about that url seems fishy to me…
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02:38:25 Dawn: repeated gobal warning twice
Lor Yang
02:38:54
The global warming... part
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02:39:03 lwest0415: s/b changed to journal homepage or doi
Lor Yang
02:39:05
Oh okay
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02:39:42 Kelly: Should the second "global" in the title be capitalized as well since it follows a period?
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02:40:08 Kelly: Okay
Lor Yang
02:40:16
So it needs the main journal page
Lor Yang
02:41:01
ok sounds good
Rebecca Heathcote
02:41:48
no abbreviations
Scotty Hicks
02:41:53
NAU needs to be National American University
Leslie West
02:41:59
needs to spell out NAU
Lor Yang
02:42:06
oh i see
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02:42:18 Dawn: ok i get it
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02:42:53 bloxx: it was worth it! ty
Lor Yang
02:42:57
Alright thank you so much. Its been fun and very useful info.
Brennan Lock
02:43:11
thanks for the info
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02:43:17 christina10303: ty!
Adam Kendall
02:43:26
This has been VERY helpful, thank you for conducting this webinar today.
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02:43:28 Dawn: thank you very much, very imformative
Dana Garcia
02:43:29
Thank you!
Ask A Librarian
02:43:39
http://bit.ly/2oRjSXN
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02:43:44 Sara: thank you for the information this has made it easier for my papers have not needed to take any comp classes
tammy lockhart
02:43:46
ty for the clarification. was wondering why my teacher kept saying to attend this class.
brenda aguilar
02:44:14
no thank you
Brenda Jay
02:44:20
Thanks ladies!
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02:44:23 Marrietta: thank you
Rebecca Heathcote
02:44:28
Thank you!!
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02:44:31 Marsha Stacey, NAU Librarian: You are welcome!
Lor Yang
02:44:33
Have a good day. :D
Jaci Alexander
02:44:35
Thank you so much for the information
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02:44:37 Nick: Thank you
Brenda Jay
02:44:39
It's worth 10 points
Scotty Hicks
02:44:43
Thank You so very much! Great Class Glad I addtended
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02:44:52 Kanda: thank you for all the information
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02:45:17 Marcia: Thank you very much for going into depth on the details of APA formatting. This was very much needed.
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02:45:56 RYAN: I have a question
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02:46:07 Dallas: Thank you 3x Librarians.
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02:46:09 RYAN: I downloaded a NAU library article