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CAE Forum 6 (Shared screen with speaker view)
Michael Losavio
01:03:40
Hi, U of M Center for Information Assurance
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01:04:47 UofM Center for Information Assurance: Hi
Michael Losavio
01:05:33
Miami or Michigan or Minnesota or...
Michael Losavio
01:12:02
Hi, Brandy
Michael Losavio
01:21:36
Hi, Anastacia
CAE Forum
01:22:14
Hello Michael, Sorry had to login and logout real quick because my University Zoom was still logged in.
Michael Losavio
01:22:54
Understand. Adrian Lauf is our coordinator for today (best gear) so he can handle the slide show permissions
CAE Forum
01:23:13
Excellent
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01:27:34 UofM Center for Information Assurance: Apologies for the delay, University of Memphis
Simon Cleveland
01:28:03
Hi Everyone, greetings from Seattle
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01:28:31 CAE in Cybersecurity Community: Don’t worry! CAE Forum does not start until 1pm ET. So you are early!
Michael Losavio
01:29:26
Hi, Memphis and Simon C.!
Simon Cleveland
01:30:39
Hi Michael
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01:30:57 CAE in Cybersecurity Community: 1:10* It starts at 1:10pm
Adrian Lauf
01:32:50
University of Louisville, Louisville, KY
Simon Cleveland
01:32:55
City University of Seattle, Seattle WA
CAE Forum
01:33:08
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Michael Losavio
01:35:02
Hi, Colleague Haddad!
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01:38:29 mondal: Do not hear audio on phone. No picture on the screen either.
Michael Losavio
01:39:52
And hello to you all. We look forward to this discussion and your thoughts/questions/fears/solutions to this interplay of law and cyber security.
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01:40:16 Marcelle: yes
Shelby Kline
01:40:19
yes
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01:40:19 CAE in Cybersecurity Community: Yes
Simon Cleveland
01:40:22
yes
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01:40:24 guest: yes
Michael Losavio
01:56:49
And please interject any questions you have, either as chat, "hand raise" or voice. We are all in this together...
Michael Losavio
01:58:25
So, what might you hypothesize as possible legal concerns for cyber security?
Ron W
01:59:25
Many SMBs are unaware of basic security concepts. Is there any research on best methods for reaching them?
Ron W
02:01:02
How do we develop a comprehensive cybersecurity education when it's not part of education's common core and we lack qualified teachers?
Ron W
02:04:06
ISC2 and ISACA grant CPEs for mentoring by cybersecurity professionals. It's a great way to supplement teachers. The challenge is that school administrators and teachers don't see it as a priority, so don't take advantage of it.
Ron W
02:08:45
Best resources to get the word out on cybersecurity: staysafeonline.org, stopthinkconnect.org, https://www.bbb.org/council/for-businesses/cybersecurity
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02:10:30 Marcelle: Re legal concerns: what are your thoughts on sniffing/capturing network traffic in public wifi hotspots? Done for research, not malicious purposes of course.
Michael Losavio
02:10:42
Thanks, Ron!
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02:11:41 Marcelle: Not pen testing.
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02:15:42 Marcelle: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2510
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02:15:53 Marcelle: Thx for that reference to the code.
Michael Losavio
02:18:26
Thanks, Marcelle!
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02:22:00 Ed: what if you are capturing packets in a public locaton on open Wi-fi
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02:23:53 Ed: then they should use vpn, yes
Andrew Wright
02:24:25
Exactly, Michael, no expectation of privacy, right?
Michael Losavio
02:26:48
depends on the security on the transmission. as Ed noted, there are ways...
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02:31:25 Ed: interesting, authorized by who...the internet is open to all, is it authorized to everyone? Isn't that the purpose of requiring a login?
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02:32:12 Troy Siegert (MSU): I just pinged you ed ><
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02:32:20 Troy Siegert (MSU): did I commit a crime?
Michael Losavio
02:33:44
OUCH!!!
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02:33:53 Troy Siegert (MSU): your fault, you responded
Michael Losavio
02:34:06
Touche'!
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02:35:04 Ed: passive as opposed to active Reconnaissance
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02:35:49 Ed: listening or poking to get a response
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02:36:04 Marcelle: active
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02:36:19 Troy Siegert (MSU): its active, you did something to get a response
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02:36:20 Ed: yes, active
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02:36:49 Marcelle: Passive - gathering info, re osint
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02:37:02 Marcelle: active - poking at systems
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02:37:14 Troy Siegert (MSU): throwing 1 rock at your house or 100 rocks, still a crime
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02:37:53 Troy Siegert (MSU): hard to prove intent
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02:39:45 Ed: as long as it is interesting, keep going
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02:41:41 Troy Siegert (MSU): who currently expects privacy?
Ron W
02:42:22
Your recommendation would require our politicians, court systems, law enforcement, and attorneys to understand cybersecurity and privacy management, compliance, and technologies. Again, most do not, beyond the basics.
Ron W
02:43:17
FBI is one of the few departments who get cybersecurity.
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02:43:28 Troy Siegert (MSU): NSA..
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02:43:43 Troy Siegert (MSU): than again... wikileaks might suggest otherwise
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02:45:24 Ed: Ransomware
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02:45:44 Troy Siegert (MSU): yes we react to pain, and little else =/
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02:45:50 Ed: stealing elections
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02:46:42 Ed: force us back to using paper balots and hanging chads
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02:49:27 Troy Siegert (MSU): lawsuit...
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02:49:30 Troy Siegert (MSU): make some pain
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02:50:09 Troy Siegert (MSU): I wonder how this will change when younger people get in office?
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02:50:32 Troy Siegert (MSU): I view the policy makers as similar to my aging parents...
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02:50:52 Troy Siegert (MSU): grunt and click
Ron W
02:51:50
What % of younger people understand cybersecurity?
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Why we need to educate millenials.
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02:52:06 Troy Siegert (MSU): it's gotta be higher than the existing legaslative base
Andrew Wright
02:52:07
Need some of our students to go to law school and run for office :-)
Ron W
02:52:31
Thanks for a fun chat
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02:52:35 Troy Siegert (MSU): I'm one of those older ones who wrecks the curve and is employed already
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02:52:36 Ed: thanks for the talk
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02:52:41 Troy Siegert (MSU): later all
Michael Losavio
02:52:43
Thank you all for making this the discussion our country needs to have!
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02:52:44 Marcelle: Good talk thx
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02:52:57 Hayat: Thank you all for this educational presentation ;-)
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02:52:58 Troy Siegert (MSU): ^^michael
Simon Cleveland
02:53:44
Thank you