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Hi, Colleague Haddad!

Do not hear audio on phone. No picture on the screen either.

And hello to you all. We look forward to this discussion and your thoughts/questions/fears/solutions to this interplay of law and cyber security.

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And please interject any questions you have, either as chat, "hand raise" or voice. We are all in this together...

So, what might you hypothesize as possible legal concerns for cyber security?

Many SMBs are unaware of basic security concepts. Is there any research on best methods for reaching them?

How do we develop a comprehensive cybersecurity education when it's not part of education's common core and we lack qualified teachers?

ISC2 and ISACA grant CPEs for mentoring by cybersecurity professionals. It's a great way to supplement teachers. The challenge is that school administrators and teachers don't see it as a priority, so don't take advantage of it.

Best resources to get the word out on cybersecurity: staysafeonline.org, stopthinkconnect.org, https://www.bbb.org/council/for-businesses/cybersecurity

Re legal concerns: what are your thoughts on sniffing/capturing network traffic in public wifi hotspots? Done for research, not malicious purposes of course.

Thanks, Ron!

Not pen testing.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2510

Thx for that reference to the code.

Thanks, Marcelle!

what if you are capturing packets in a public locaton on open Wi-fi

then they should use vpn, yes

Exactly, Michael, no expectation of privacy, right?

depends on the security on the transmission. as Ed noted, there are ways...

interesting, authorized by who...the internet is open to all, is it authorized to everyone? Isn't that the purpose of requiring a login?

I just pinged you ed ><

did I commit a crime?

OUCH!!!

your fault, you responded

Touche'!

passive as opposed to active Reconnaissance

listening or poking to get a response

active

its active, you did something to get a response

yes, active

Passive - gathering info, re osint

active - poking at systems

throwing 1 rock at your house or 100 rocks, still a crime

hard to prove intent

as long as it is interesting, keep going

who currently expects privacy?

Your recommendation would require our politicians, court systems, law enforcement, and attorneys to understand cybersecurity and privacy management, compliance, and technologies. Again, most do not, beyond the basics.

FBI is one of the few departments who get cybersecurity.

NSA..

than again... wikileaks might suggest otherwise

Ransomware

yes we react to pain, and little else =/

stealing elections

force us back to using paper balots and hanging chads

lawsuit...

make some pain

I wonder how this will change when younger people get in office?

I view the policy makers as similar to my aging parents...

grunt and click

What % of younger people understand cybersecurity?Why we need to educate millenials.

it's gotta be higher than the existing legaslative base

Need some of our students to go to law school and run for office :-)

Thanks for a fun chat

I'm one of those older ones who wrecks the curve and is employed already

thanks for the talk

later all

Thank you all for making this the discussion our country needs to have!

Good talk thx

Thank you all for this educational presentation ;-)

^^michael

Thank you