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Reading Picture Books with Children through a Race-Conscious Lens - Shared screen with speaker view
EmbraceRace
57:38
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EmbraceRace
58:03
We’ll start at 8:30. In the meantime, tell us where you’re joining us from!
Maleeha Malik
58:18
Greenbelt, Maryland
Siobhan Moffitt
58:19
Chicago Northside!
Katie Bruckmann
58:22
Hi! I’m Katie and I live in DC :).
Amanda Silverman
58:27
New York, NY!
juliedelliquanti
58:29
Los Altos, CA
Elaine Pangan
58:31
Chicago, IL
Christi Farrar
58:37
North of Boston (I may need to leave, depending on how kid bedtime goes)
Smitha Radhakrishnan
58:43
Natick, MA
Kathleen Wagner
58:52
Decatur, GA
Jessica Clark
58:53
Hello from NYC!
Andrew & Melissa
59:09
NO leaving, Christi! <Just kidding!>
Dana Kuhl
59:14
West Hartford, CT
Lori Cady
59:15
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Kendra Davey
59:27
Tucson AZ
Bianca West
59:27
Maryland!
Sian Gaetano
59:38
Sian, Boston, MA
Andrew & Melissa
59:47
Welcome, one and all! We’ll get started in about 4 minutes.
Julia Slade
59:57
Burlington, VT!
Rachel Concitis
59:59
Columbus, Ohio
Mara Rosenberg
01:00:08
North Carolina
Kate Elwell
01:00:09
Medford, MA
Andrew & Melissa
01:00:20
Columbus, Ohio! Old stomping grounds for us!
David Feinstein
01:00:20
Hello from The Carle Museum in Amherst, MA
Jan Landes
01:00:25
Akron, PA
Emily Brush
01:00:30
Novi, MI
Rachel Concitis
01:00:31
Go Bucks!
Andrew & Melissa
01:00:35
Hullo, Carle Museum. We LOVE you!
REBECCA DUVALL
01:00:36
Brooklyn NY
Andrew & Melissa
01:00:44
Go Bucks!
Lola Mann
01:00:58
Chicago, IL
Siobhan Moffitt
01:01:06
Hi LOLA!!!
Andrew & Melissa
01:01:11
Chicago - our favorite city!
EmbraceRace
01:01:14
Megan Dowd Lambert is so brave - all alone on video. Hee hee
Elaine Pangan
01:01:20
Whoop whoop!
Andrew & Melissa
01:01:56
Seattle - just heard about the old-time “seamstresses” in Seattle!
Hannah Gómez
01:02:36
someone just asked if there was sound yet and I accidentally deleted the question. The answer is no; we all have our mics turned off at the moment
EmbraceRace
01:02:56
can you hear us now?
Siobhan Moffitt
01:03:01
Yes!
Katie Bruckmann
01:03:01
Yes
Elaine Pangan
01:03:03
yes!
Alice E
01:03:04
I can hear you!
Kalli Foster
01:03:06
yes
David Feinstein
01:03:08
loud and clear
Melinda McBee Orzulak
01:03:23
yes
Alice E
01:03:39
Yay for having a parenting partner!
EmbraceRace
01:04:04
lucky, right? thanks, alice!
EmbraceRace
01:04:22
good to hear that you can hear us
Alice E
01:04:50
I prefer to donate monthly by check. Is there an address and phone number for sending that check?
EmbraceRace
01:05:04
yes! hold on …
EmbraceRace
01:06:35
Hi Suzanne!
EmbraceRace
01:07:15
EmbraceRace c/o Proteus Fund, 15 Research Drive, Amherst, MA 01002
EmbraceRace
01:07:42
JennyKate? I will send shortly!
EmbraceRace
01:08:26
mute off, hannah
Christi Farrar
01:08:29
UofA and Simmons - where I got both my grad degrees :D Yay!
Tara Leiby
01:10:02
I'm only seeing a portion of the slide (it looks zoomed in)...is this happening for everyone?
Tara Leiby
01:10:18
Nevermind, fixed!
Alice E
01:10:19
I can see the wholse slide
REBECCA DUVALL
01:10:22
View options - at top
REBECCA DUVALL
01:10:25
“Fit to screen"
Siobhan Moffitt
01:10:29
I also follow Books for Littles FB page which is also wonderful!
Maggie Morris
01:10:38
are the links on the slideshow clickable?
Ellen Baxt
01:10:47
I second Books for Littles
EmbraceRace
01:13:22
Good to know, I don’t know that resources
EmbraceRace
01:13:50
Good to know, Siobhan and Ellen. I don’t know that resources.
Hannah Gómez
01:21:11
Christi!!!! so cool!
Hannah Gómez
01:21:21
great addition, Michelle
Hannah Gómez
01:21:56
Maggie - we have a tipsheet that will be sent to you. All those links are there
Sandra Hassell
01:26:02
Thinking about how we can use these same approaches to discuss middle grade and YA novels with youth.
Hannah Gómez
01:26:59
I teach middle grade and picture books to my elem ed students, Sandra. It would be great to explore that! I’ve been wanting to come up with a way to do that.
Sandra Hassell
01:28:23
Looks like Lissa Paul's quetions would work for YA and middle grade too.
Sandra Hassell
01:29:33
Thanks for sharing your personal experiences, Megan.
Megan McGee
01:31:07
If anyone happens to be nearby, the Milwaukee Art Museum has a great exhibit about Dave the Potter and other artists of the African diaspora - totally suitable for children
Andrew & Melissa
01:38:22
Thanks. Need to get to questions now.
EmbraceRace
01:38:26
W.A.I.T.? Love it!
Katie Bruckmann
01:38:45
I love it too!
Katie Bruckmann
01:39:31
I’m also an ELL teacher, so I think it’s just a generally good tool to utilize in the classroom.
Hannah Gómez
01:39:53
I think I did too, Sarah. it’s a very Allie thing to say.
Hannah Gómez
01:41:50
we have a tipsheet for you!
EmbraceRace
01:42:47
we will send it to you within the week!
Sandra Hassell
01:42:49
I love the idea of rereading! I wonder how many teachers and librarians think about that?
Hannah Gómez
01:44:28
I bet they do if they’re parents ;-)
Sandra Hassell
01:44:54
Great point Melissa, about co-creating meaning. Such an important stance for educators to take.
Hannah Gómez
01:45:24
yup.
EmbraceRace
01:45:30
tru dat
Stephanie Defrance
01:45:53
YES!!! Read against books!!!!
Hannah Gómez
01:45:59
I had to be reminded, too, that this particular generation of college students is the product of No Child Left Behind, and they were trained out of engaging with books and told to comprehend books
Siobhan Moffitt
01:46:14
Hmm. interesting.
Alice E
01:46:31
I've found it only takes a few class periods to reinvigorate many of them.
Siobhan Moffitt
01:46:40
:-)
Sarah Dahlen
01:46:45
Yes, and to read against the text too. Change pronouns, etc.
Sandra Hassell
01:46:48
I love the idea of "reading against books." How can we help teachers engage with that idea too? Thinking about my teenage son who reads against but faces teachers who shot down conversations.
Holley Rochford
01:47:19
Great session! Thank you all and Andrew for organizing this!
Ellen Baxt
01:47:20
It requires that teachers be willing to not be the expert on everything
Mara Rosenberg
01:47:36
Sandra - looking forward to talking about these ideas in class this spring
Sandra Hassell
01:49:08
"Child centered" - so critical. Thanks Megan for reminding us of that the need to do that!
Dan Rosenthal-Baxter
01:49:23
I find the whole book approach and Visual Thinking Strategies hugely engaging for students. Generally I have to end converstaion because our time is up.
Alice E
01:50:51
How about, until that child/class is ready?
Katie Bruckmann
01:52:31
I love it too and try to use it in my classes. I work with older learners, but these tips are very helpful for them too! I teach students from other countries (mostly Turkey), and because their cultures are so different, that a lot of the time students expect the teacher to feed them information and not engage. This can be frustrating. Any advice? In these political times we’ve had some great (but heartbreaking) discussion on islamophobia, but I don’t want to force my students to engage with their trauma.
Melinda McBee Orzulak
01:52:38
Off limits books…I struggle with this because I want to encourage reading choice at the library as a parent. And that’s when my child always picks choice books that I struggle with. I end up changing words and saying why I don’t like some of the books. But, this is an area I think about all the time.
Alice E
01:53:47
What age was he reading Tintin?
Hannah Gómez
01:53:56
5th or so grade, Megan said
Melinda McBee Orzulak
01:54:06
Thanks for the Tintin example.
Alice E
01:54:10
thx
Sarah Dahlen
01:54:39
Joe Sutliff Sanders has some fantastic articles about the problems in Tintin books
Alice E
01:56:45
Sarah, do you happen to have a title or a link for articles by Joe Sutliff Sanders?
Siobhan Moffitt
01:57:49
Families of Color Monterey County also often does some great, detailed children’s books reviews!
Sarah Dahlen
01:59:00
He edited this book: http://www.upress.state.ms.us/books/1895
Sandra Hassell
01:59:31
I'm sure all of you know, but check out https://www.tolerance.org/ for a curriculm re: antibias curriculum.
Siobhan Moffitt
01:59:48
Yes! Teaching Tolerance is wonderful!
Sarah Dahlen
02:00:12
https://socialjusticebooks.org/ (Teaching for Change) is also a great resource
Sarah Dahlen
02:00:30
Here’s the 2015 Diversity in Children’s Lit infographic: https://readingspark.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/picture-this-reflecting-diversity-in-childrens-book-publishing/
Sarah Dahlen
02:00:59
where we depicted that 12.5% of children’s books depict animals, inanimate objects, etc., using data compiled by the CCBC
Alice E
02:01:27
"If you don't know, they're coded as white." Interesting.
yesha Naik
02:01:56
Would you say that Families! Families Families! by Suzanne Lang? is an example of this?
Siobhan Moffitt
02:01:56
Of course. Because white in our society is seen as the default.
Hannah Gómez
02:02:01
Alice, in addition to coding, you can look up “white as neutral” or “white as raceless” for more on that
Dan Rosenthal-Baxter
02:02:03
"white" as the normative default setting.
Hannah Gómez
02:02:09
or “white as default"
Alice E
02:02:28
But what about books that aren't about issues at all ... for instance "Sometimes I Like to Curl Up in a Ball" or something that isn't ... engaging in social issues, it's just parent-loves-baby?
Sandra Hassell
02:02:35
Yes, Megan. We need to talk abou the industry and their role in this whole conversation.
Hannah Gómez
02:02:37
I discussed this briefly on the Horn Book podcast, which you can find on any of your usual podcast sources (iTunes, Stitcher, etc)
Alice E
02:02:50
I mean, I get that those are white-coded, but
Maleeha Malik
02:02:56
Yes…white as faceless. I’ve had a challenging time teaching my white students that they have a race. (I’m a south asian brown teacher so race is a daily thing for me)
Maleeha Malik
02:03:01
raceless
Lola Mann
02:03:01
Thank you! Very interesting and helpful! Thank you Siobhan for letting me know about this webinar, I have more questions for you!
Alice E
02:03:17
YES! MOSTLY ANIMAL!!
Siobhan Moffitt
02:03:19
So glad you joined! Yes - let’s talk!
Alice E
02:03:20
ARRRGGGHHH!
Maleeha Malik
02:03:29
*I meant to say raceless…autocorrect!
yesha Naik
02:03:57
Yes, that! SO MANY books about black kids by White authors and illustrators
yesha Naik
02:04:06
and not enough by Black authors or illustrators
Sandra Hassell
02:04:08
The stats are horrible. Yes, we need to focus on #ownvoices and who conrols the narrative!
Siobhan Moffitt
02:04:17
Hear, hear!!
Alice E
02:04:26
Can we have a convo about animals in books?
Alice E
02:04:31
Somewhere sometime?
Sandra Hassell
02:04:32
Thanks for a great discussion. So much to talk about!
Alice E
02:04:39
YES, this is lovely.
REBECCA DUVALL
02:04:40
thank you so much!
Sarah Dahlen
02:04:43
the Asian insider/outsider authorship blip was in 2013, 2014 I think, and has since gone back to more being on par with the other 3 groups
Dana Kuhl
02:04:43
Thank you so much for this discussion.
yesha Naik
02:04:45
thank you!
Maleeha Malik
02:04:46
Thank you so much.
Alice E
02:05:02
:D :D :D
Mara Rosenberg
02:05:04
Thank you!
Melinda McBee Orzulak
02:05:04
Thank you!!
Hannah Gómez
02:05:04
thanks, Sarah! I should have qualified that
Ellen White
02:05:05
Thank you!
Stephanie Defrance
02:05:06
This was amazing!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!
Siobhan Moffitt
02:05:13
Thank you all so much for your time!! This was WONDERFUL!!
Katie Bruckmann
02:05:13
Thank you! This was fabulous!
Dan Rosenthal-Baxter
02:05:14
This was wonderful.
Kathleen Wagner
02:05:18
Thank you, all!
Nicole Walsh
02:05:18
Thanks M & A!! Great topic, once again>
Sian Gaetano
02:05:18
Thank you, Hannah and Megan! :)
Sarah Dahlen
02:05:25
Thank you Hannah and Megan
Sanny Zuiderveld
02:05:27
Thank you!
Michelle Valente
02:05:30
Thank you!!!
Gina Rose
02:05:33
Thank you
David Feinstein
02:05:34
Thanks all!
Gretchen Birkheimer
02:05:37
Thank you all so much. This was such a valuable presentation!
Alice E
02:05:44
You should be getting a check next Tuesday.
Becky Moss
02:05:46
Thank you so much!
yesha Naik
02:05:49
Will there be a list? :-)
Akemi Chayama
02:05:53
Thank you so much! Can’t wait to share with my collegugs
yesha Naik
02:05:56
(in the resources?)
Maleeha Malik
02:06:08
i’d like to see more on racial coding next time.
Alice E
02:06:11
100% interested
Hannah Gómez
02:06:12
Yes, we have a list for you all that you’ll get soon!
Ellen White
02:06:13
I would love that
Alice E
02:06:14
thank you!