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Marpa Foundation's Zoom Meeting
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03:19:05 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: anyone else having difficulty with the stream breaking up or is it a function of the rainy weather here in Maine?
Christian Scott
03:19:38
Its coming through clear for me, so might be the rain there...
Marti Mohidin
03:20:11
The video sometimes flashes off and on and it's a clear sunny day here in NC, USA
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03:20:39 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: thanks
Susan Neumeier
03:20:42
ditto for the situation here in Denver….I think its my internet connection
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03:29:56 Angelika: Here in the Dordogne, France: image slightly flickering now and then but sound constantly fine. What a great and useful teaching!!
Marti Mohidin
03:38:12
Agree!
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04:01:20 roger: A question: I guess many peole here have been sick at some point. This teaching teached us to rest in the nature of mind, thats great, however sometimes we cannot/do not rest in the nature of mind. In those times, has anyone got some relative advice on things that can help/have helped them?
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04:01:56 Andrzej: can anyone give me hints how and where to find material, teachings for to study the Vimalakirti sutra, which seems to me directly in harmony with this here teaching, Andrzej?
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04:02:38 sylviecarteron: It seems these instructions apply to excellent meditators in mountain retreat, but for us in ordinary life, maybe the way to apply them would be both to integrate their meaning which is on an absolute level, thus developing a deeper understanding, AND also to try to cure ou illnesses with available medicine ? By the way, many Rinpochés have doctors and medical treatment.
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04:02:51 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: Dzongsar Khyentse recently gave teachings on Vimalakirti sutra which you can find through siddharthasintent.org
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04:04:09 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: the sutra itself is on the 84000 website
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04:04:41 TomAsh: Hi Andrzej, if you need VIMALAKIRTI NIRDESA SUTRA translated by Robert A. F. Thurman I can share with you.
Marti Mohidin
04:05:30
Roger: I have found in this relative world that if I can relax and focus on the pain it dissolves. The pain may last a long time but if I keep at it, i.e. keep looking at where it is felt and it's perimeters, it will disappear. Wishing you well
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04:10:12 Etienne: Recently in NP, I have had, unusually for me a nasty backpain.It puts you in connection with people on this planet who suffer, which is a good reminding of the luck I, you, might have. But is it really the deep meaning of this teaching? I have hard time figuring out what you can do with a very present pain. It's pretty dictatorial, I would say.
Pierre BATSCH
04:14:42
like Stephen Hawking ?
Christian Scott
04:25:27
It seems to me that this teaching Rinpoche gave is clearly a training of mind. Its not really about Illness or medicin or either. It is more about our view. Or in other words our minds reaction to this appearence, in this case illness. So its a gradual practice of view that can be done one step at a time.
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Not about wether or not you can eat medicin or not.
jane troy
04:34:47
Could you explain reverse meditation once again?
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04:34:49 roger: Jim, you advised when we are not recognisong the nature of mind then we are in samasaric relative need to "prick the balloon".....do you have any additional tips on things you can do to prick the balloon, or recognise.
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04:37:05 Veronica: Em Ah Ho!
James Vitale
04:39:10
Re: The question about reverse meditation - this is from KTGR's comments in the vid:
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These don’t need to be shunned because they’re basically good. To apply this, we need reverse meditation. The normal way we see things is that we want happiness and we want to avoid suffering. That’s the normal way that every single sentient being acts. What we need to do to reverse our confusion is take all the suffering of all sentient beings onto ourselves and give them our happiness. We need equal taste to practice equal taste. That means to see the basic equality of happiness and suffering, not to favor one over the other.
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... and later:
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With regard to reverse meditation, then there’s one teaching on this by Patrul Rinpcoeh in which he makes one statement: I don’t like to be happy and healthy, I like to be sick. If I’m happy and healthy I get distracted and arrogant. If I’m sick, then my weariness with samsara increases and I long to practice the dharma.
James Vitale
04:39:39
So if you get sick, you renounce samsara much more easily. Ordinarily, most beings would prefer to be happy instead of sick, but Patrul Rinpoche sings about it the other way.
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If one is practicing Tonglen, if you’re sick, you take all sentient beings sickness on top of that, if you’re well, then you send out your happiness to all sentient beings. That’s why in order to practice tonglen, you need to practice reverse meditation and equal taste, it’s like that.
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04:43:29 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: Jane Robinson has been sick with a sinus infection for about a month. She expresses her gratitude as this teaching could not have been more perfect. Thank you to Khenpo Rinpoche, Ari and the organizers of this webinar.
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04:43:48 sylviecarteron: Important about TongLèn : when we absorb th suffering of others in our heart, it dissolves there into emptiness.
Pierre BATSCH
04:52:17
medical staff also need help, because they grasp on others sickness they want to help
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04:55:28 sylviecarteron: Thanks Jim, I feel peacefully happy with your explanations.
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04:55:31 tan-li-chun: Thank you everyone
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04:56:00 charbyslemin: thank you - excellent Q&A
nng su
04:56:47
Many thanks Jim and Birgit.
CK Gan
04:57:22
Thanks Jim and Birgit :)
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04:57:23 TomAsh: Thanks Jim&Birgit
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04:57:35 Etienne: Bye bye everybody. Nice to have spent such a beautiful time with you.
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04:57:48 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: thanks to all. it was wonderful despite the fact that my connection kept fading and dying.
Barbara McAuliffe
04:58:31
Thank you! Looking forward to next time.☺️
CK Gan
04:58:38
Bye everyone!
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04:58:42 Jane Robinson and Arlin Kent: i would love to continue. fingers crossed i can stay connected