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Anti-Semitism and Intersections with Christian Hegemony and White Supremacy - Shared screen with speaker view
Blaine Dzwonczyk
15:42
How can I ensure I am muted?
SURJ Tech
16:06
i’ve got all attendees muted right now, so you’re good to go! :-)
Blaine Dzwonczyk
16:11
Thank you :)
John Hacker
22:16
is anyone else's screen blank
Kim Harris
22:51
My screen is fine...
SURJ Tech
24:33
john - did you work out the screen issue?
SURJ Tech
30:33
hey, paul - good to see you here (and to see your thinking in the webinar)!! [this is heather cronk, running tech today…]
Debra Seltzer
41:21
Feelings - this is both validating of my experience and disturbing to have it put into words and explored; thank you for thinking all this through and sharing it.
Mark Cripe
54:45
The funding cut was blamed on the Jews complaint.
Nahariyah Mosnekis
55:25
Jews are inserted in the middle of the issue and end up being blamed for the funding cut both by the legislators and those who suffer from the spending cut.
Anne Dunlap
55:44
ready to go?
Kim Harris
56:07
...and justified by their pretending to care.
Jorjanna Smith
56:08
Jews end up operating as a scapegoat for a decision that was already made
Debra Seltzer
56:09
It makes any valid discussion of BDS that much more complicated.
elliot helman
56:23
besides the obvious (which has been stated above) it’s also an example of how israel (& it’s supporters) feed anti-semitism
elliot helman
56:32
but u don;t want to talk bat I/P, i understand
Blaine Dzwonczyk
58:11
The state senate blaming the funding cut on Jewish people who spoke out about anti-Semitism discourages Jews (and non-Jews?) from calling out or naming anti-Semitism in the future
Anne Dunlap
01:00:54
Thanks for such great observations, everyone.
elliot helman
01:01:32
i don’t see this as anti-semitism
Jorjanna Smith
01:02:27
The manager equates the negative qualities of white feminism with Jewish women
Marcia Lovelace
01:02:44
It is an example of our blind spots about some groups being OK to stereotype
Allison Bolgiano
01:02:55
The colleague seems to be buying into common stereotypes about Jews - that Jews are wealthy, powerful, and hold leadership roles
Debra Seltzer
01:03:31
To the point you made earlier about how different Jews can be - no recognition of that at all.
Jorjanna Smith
01:03:36
The co-worker also seems to generalize all jewish women to one negative experience which is inherently antisemitic
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:03:42
1. a Jewish woman is used to demonstrate something negative. 2. your colleague insists her prejudice is justified based on the few Jews she knows.
Blaine Dzwonczyk
01:03:49
There are wayyyyy more Christian White feminists than Jewish White feminists. Here, a Jewish woman is put in the scapegoat role for all (mostly Christian) White feminists. And the colleague saw that as aligning with the “truth” about Jews
Kim Harris
01:03:54
I think this individual epitomizes the underlying stereotypes that most people have. "Based on my personal experience" is probably just a stereotype from TV.
Blaine Dzwonczyk
01:04:11
Christian White feminists are not held accountable for the real harm we cause because Jewish women are blamed for our actions
Allison Bolgiano
01:04:15
The colleague also seems unable to see that is possible to hold oppressive views toward someone who has an intersectional identity - in this case the narrator in the video has privilege as white, yet can still be subject to Anti-Semitism
Anne Dunlap
01:05:17
Again, great observations, thanks everyone for being so engaged in this!
Allison Bolgiano
01:10:29
It jumps out at me that both the Jewish and Muslim students here are living within Christian hegemony since instead of comparing the school's resources that their faiths get to what Christians get and the ways Christianity is baked into the world, they are comparing the limited resources their two faiths have received
Debra Seltzer
01:10:44
This is complicated - are the school resources really being disproportionately made available, or is there just a feeling or appearance of that; both may or may not be true. WHat is being paid for and by who. AND if there are external resources from teh Jewish community - maybe those could be shared around islamaphobia also.
Jorjanna Smith
01:11:32
The jewish students issues are decentered again in leftist spaces while they also agree to take on the work load to help the muslim students. They both are struggling to work around white supremacy but the jewish students concerns are not heard or seen as an issue as much as the muslim students
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:12:13
Jews become focal point for school spending-surely there are many other departments of student life gettting way more resoirces than the Jews--Some of who's programs may be funded by Jewish community not the University. 2. Internalized antisemitism that Jews agree that they are getting an unfair share if school of funding.--Also no discussion of how many Jewish students are being served vs how many muslim students are/are not being served
Blaine Dzwonczyk
01:12:31
White Christians are not held accountable for either of these issues (making Jews feel unwelcome in leftists spaces, and limiting resources for Muslim students)
Anne Dunlap
01:14:05
Could htis also be an example of letting (some) Jews "succeed" in terms of institutional recognition?
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:16:32
Carribeanclient focus on Landlords Jewishness rather than their not paying rent or whatever motivated landlord to kick them out.
elliot helman
01:17:30
the problems are capitalism, weak tenants rights laws, gentrification ____ (fill in the blanks) & have nothing to do with judaism
Jorjanna Smith
01:18:10
This comment is also internalized and the social worker no longer feels comfortable talking about her identity with clients, which could create client connections
David Granberg
01:18:14
Jews acting out "jewish stereotypes" are hyper-visible
Kim Harris
01:18:36
Perhaps the Jewish social worker is embarrassed that an Orthodox individual, who is supposed to be an example for piety, kicked the family out...???
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:18:38
YOu stop telling clients you are Jewish because you expect to be targeted? or fear it will interfere with client's need for safe space? Both internalized antisemitism
Anne Dunlap
01:33:58
Thanks, Hayyim!
Sarah Turner
01:34:00
I would also recommend the book On Antisemitism: Solidarity and the Struggle for Justice by Jewish Voice for Peace
Anne Dunlap
01:34:17
Here is the link for the Resource List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1__EmYAp9wp83p2orbDRUaP-yZmpCNmT7YtrAxI2PTCY/edit?usp=sharing
David Granberg
01:34:58
(This is a question from earlier when I wasn't able to access the chat box; understood if it's tangential to the current question - ) How do we understand some Jews being "allowed" to rise or gain a certain limited amount of privilege and power? Who is making those decisions? Do we have any record of white Christians deliberately relaxing antisemitic structures in order to better give the impression of Jewish power? Processes like (some) Jews' inclusion within whiteness in the US don't really seem to be captured by the idea of anyone "allowing" Jews to access power.
Rachel Zerrell
01:35:01
I think my experience with anti-Jewish Oppression makes me more aware of how other groups can function in similar ways as scapegoats. (For example, it makes me a better ally to Asian friends and coworkers.)
Debra Seltzer
01:36:34
I think the points made earlier about how the left in the past has been deeply crippled by successful anti-semitism is really important to acknowledge - it divides us in ways that harm our effectiveness.
David Granberg
01:37:48
If we don't assume that there is a *deliberate conspiracy* running things and making nefarious decisions, we're more able to confront the structural nature of the systems we're in...! (e.g., capitalism is more than the actions of some nefarious capitalists, Jewish or otherwise)
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:38:16
we could be a more united front working on many issues-if we weren't sidetracked/distracted we could target the actual causes of injustice and work together to find solutions to our real problems.
SURJ Tech
01:42:24
there’s a question in the Q&A from earlier: “Why an increase in anti-semetic rhetoric now?”
SURJ Tech
01:43:02
there are three questions in the Q&A box now
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:44:24
sometimes-you are fading in and out
Jeremy Nicholson
01:44:42
Yes
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:44:44
yes
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:44:56
yes
Anne Dunlap
01:53:48
The JFREJ resource in on our resource list, and it's amazing!
Anne Dunlap
01:57:21
Thanks for your work, Paul!
Debra Seltzer
01:57:58
realizing more about how anti-semitism makes me feel unsafe in anti-oppression space - so i need to work to figure out how to keep myself and my fellow Jews safe, and also more about how to engage actively with the barriers you have been talking about.
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:58:06
continue to pay attention to noticing how and when anti-semitism is functioning and just plain noticing christian hegemony.
David Granberg
01:58:32
work on ~ commit to fighting antisemitism without having a 100% clear and precise analytical understanding of the system in *allll* its historical specificity
Anne Dunlap
01:58:50
All of these except Rosenwasser are already linked in our resource list!
Nahariyah Mosnekis
01:59:31
Thank you!
Kim Harris
02:00:30
Thank you for the learning and resources!