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Jenna Pratt
01:07
Good evening!!!! I am so excited to be here! :-)
Rebecca Mullins
01:26
Hi Everyone from Seattle!
megan gillen
01:29
Hi!! from Charleston, SC
Zoe Francesca
01:31
So good to be here!
Alyssa Pizarro
01:40
So happy to be here! Hello from Seattle.
Fox
01:48
Hello from DC.
Jenna Pratt
01:50
Joining you all from The Bahamas :-)
Laura Dewberry
01:52
Detroit is here!
Darren Evans
01:53
Hi everyone from Oxford, UK. Great to be here.
Heather Braatz
01:55
Hello from Milwaukee!
Sabrina Fletcher
01:57
Thank you for hosting, excited to be here. From Mexico
Maggie Moraes
01:59
Thank you for this! Hello from Santa Cruz
Dex
02:03
hello from Montréal!
Debra Wilbur
02:06
hello from los angeles!
Nora Menkin
02:10
Hello from Seattle
elliott
02:11
hello from Des Moines, Iowa!
Kate DeBartolo
02:11
Hi from Washington, DC!
Noha Waibsnaider
02:14
hello from NY. Thanks for hosting this event
Claire
02:27
Hello from San Jose, CA!
Cass HM
02:34
Evening from the UK! (very late evening!)
Sherry Schultz
02:36
Hi, I'm Sherry from Tacoma, WA
Susan Oppie
02:37
Aloha from Honolulu
darcyhansen
02:38
Hello from Portland, OR
TERRY CARRETTA
02:43
Hello from South Florida
Gabrielle Garcia
02:46
Hello from San Diego, CA!
Rossa Socco
02:48
Thank you sisters, from unceded Ohlone/ Awaswas territories now in the guardianship of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band (Santa Cruz, CA)
Angela Shook
02:54
Hello from Kalamazoo, Michigan
Nancy Walker
03:13
Love to all from Austin, TX
Sonja Godfrey-Chan
03:20
Good morning from Sydney Australia
Demitra Green
03:29
Houston, Texas is here!
Demitra Green
03:39
Beautiful panel!
Jane Dowling
03:48
Greetings from The People’s Republic of Brooklyn
Joe Fields-Johnson
03:52
Honored to be here from Richmond, VA
Christopher Joshi
04:06
Hello from Buffalo, NY.
Karen Wyatt
04:17
Thank you for doing this. I am so grateful to be here.
Heather Braatz
04:23
@Rossa - all love to Ohlone territory fam! <3
elizabeth kendig
05:31
Honored to be learning from you all from San Francisco!
Karen Asconi
05:48
Thank you SOO much for this! Sending love and blessings from NYC!!
Jenna Pratt
05:59
Thank you for letting us into your safe space!
meikaloe
06:15
Hello from Albany, NY!
Free Space
06:17
Honored to be here. Thank you all for this contribution! Tuning in from Venice, CA
Piotr
06:24
Hi from Toronto!
Emilie McDonald
06:26
Hello from Connecticut
Patty & Jon Webster
06:26
Listening in from Arlington, VA!
A Hennessy
06:51
Oakland here!
Desiree Espericueta
06:57
Much love from Bellingham, WA
Jill McClennen
07:21
Thank you ladies for inviting us to the conversation. Joining you from NJ!
robinrose
07:46
thank you for doing this. love from Seattle
Deb Holtz
08:09
Hi from MN. THANK you for doing this.
Jenna Pratt
08:38
Wow
Char Barrett
09:19
Hello from Seattle, so glad to be here.
Demitra Green
09:20
Yes! No outside validation needed
Corinne Bowen
12:27
If you have questions for the panelists please put them here to answer at the end of the webinar
Jerry
13:57
"Anticipatory exhaustion!"
Corinne Bowen
14:04
You can put the questions here @Beth :)
Catherine Campion
14:06
Greetings and solidarity from 4 blocks away from 38th/Chicago, where George’s life was taken. Thank you for making this widely available.
Rebecca
14:07
is there online training to become a death doula for the BIPOC community?
Alyssa Pizarro
16:38
Yes! power imbalance
Demitra Green
17:04
Indeed!
Beth
17:17
Agreed!
Joe Fields-Johnson
17:19
Damn right, as a White dude I keep pushing my people on this point. This is our problem.
Jill McClennen
17:31
As a white women who works with 95% POC, I did not understand the amount of death and especially traumatic death that some of my coworkers and students have in their life. What is one thing that I should know when I am holding space with someone who recently experienced a death?
Alyssa Pizarro
17:57
Yes! I will go to my people and you go get your people
Danna
18:08
"willingness to be ignorant." word.
Rossa Socco
18:46
I have designated white accomplices to come collect their people in order to reduce my spiritual fatigue.
Jenna Pratt
19:13
Yes!! I was there and I felt it! It made me cry
Rocio Navarro
19:17
“I am angry” …… valid….
Alyssa Pizarro
19:46
"if you are not angry, you are not paying attention"
Karen Wyatt
19:58
Yes absolutely the death and dying community needs to look at this!
Darren Evans
21:48
A person centred 'good death' is one that has been provisioned with care, respect and dignity.
Jerry
22:02
What's important to you? How can I help you get what has meaning to you?
Lavina Senior Pride
23:11
Is there a “bad death?”
Piotr
23:50
People who have had to suffer like George Floyd has cannot have a good death, and people’s grief over his death is also not possible to be “good” because others try to take away the validity of it. Can you also talk about supporting a person/community who is grieving when their grief is disturbed by racism or any other outside influence?
Kalisto Nanen
23:55
George Floyd, Bryona Taylor, Tony McDade were taken before their time. Those were not good deaths
Colleen Brazil, MSW
24:31
I am a hospice social worker in a very small, very homogenous area. In seven years, I have served a handful of BIPOC and I feel I have fallen short of providing resources/support during the dying process, perhaps because I did not do a good enough job of creating safe or open space for the family to express their needs. What suggestions may you have for me to offer to our Hospice team, very similar to what Oceana described?
Fox
24:33
Definitely not good deaths...
Jerry
25:26
So true - medical racism, end of life care (hospice) being provided by productivity-oriented orgs, corporations, etc
Cass HM
25:37
Lots of head nodding here too!
Evalina Everidge
25:45
Yes, as Hospice nurse, witnessed lack of trust due to long standing issues with discriminatory medical systems and implicit bias resulting in reluctance to use Hospice services
Heather Braatz
25:48
COVID deaths are definitely one of the more painful deaths, both because patients are separated from their loved ones, but also the disease ravages the body
Demitra Green
27:20
Right!
Dex
28:14
that!
Evalina Everidge
28:45
Intersection of racism and ageism
Jerry
29:14
Don't forget nurse! Nursing in America is based on obedient white women reinforcing white supremacy.
Kimberley
29:23
living and dying with dignity!!
Kalisto Nanen
30:40
Im realizing I have to add supplemental courses through schools that I’ve come across online to meet in the middle to be able to serve community, on top of the depth of bringing identity to work
Shonna Vance
30:45
As a hospice social worker it’s been my experience that it’s hard for our culture to even have this conversation before a loved one is sick or making death a normal conversation.
Colette Johns
31:40
the entire training of our volunteer doulas in hospice is focused on 'respect' and being non-judgmental; next focus is on 'active listening' to hear, really hear what the dying individual and family would like for the end of life process, rituals, legacy, etc.
Corinne
31:45
i'm in mortuary school right now and you're absolutely right, there is little to no conversation about how to treat... like any other race in the prep room.
celidh (she/they)
31:52
Question: how can we compensate you all financially or otherwise for this incred panel, how can we uplift your work in ways that feel good to you?
Lavina Senior Pride
32:02
LGBTQ- Inclusive Hospice and Palliative Care by Kimberly D. Acquaviva
Kalisto Nanen
32:51
Thank you for that reference @lavina
Corinne
33:51
Yes! Yes they are! It's so upsetting.
Shonna Vance
34:14
Also in hospice care everyone gets the same generic bereavement care that does very little to address how we grieve differently.
Corinne
34:58
Thank you Lashanna.
Karen Wyatt
35:07
As a doctor I can attest that medical textbooks and training are also racist and misogynistic.
Felicia Barlow Clar
35:08
Do you see a difference between funeral homes run by whites and those run by blacks? I”m assuming they’re all trained in the same space.
Kalisto Nanen
35:43
I asked in Q&A about how do we address in the hospice interviews that grief is a process that isn’t just going to end in a day, several months, a year. Folks enter work with grief and were honest about it, sometimes, unless it seems like they’ll use the grief against us from hiring us
Corinne Bowen
36:26
Thank you to everyone asking questions. I just want to let you know we have been pulling them out and will answer as many as we can at the end :)
Desiree Espericueta
36:29
When we see the mistreatment of a person who passed in a hospital, how do we professionally address it with the medical staff without getting angry? For example: I've only brought one black person into our care at the funeral home I work for. When I picked him up from the hospital, the medical staff had placed his medical sticker ON HIS FOREHEAD rather than the outside of his body bag. This was the one and only time I have seen this sticker placed on the skin of a dead body in my 1.5 years working in this city.
Jerry
36:55
This is knowledge work - so we gotta learn and keep learning. We privileged white people haven't been learning or even paying attention
Echo Summer
36:55
Jesus tapdancing christ
Angela Dawn
37:06
omg that's disgraceful
Corinne
37:11
That's horrible.
Awujoola Robin
37:41
indeed, horrible & extremely dismissive
Rya Lally
37:48
If you tried starting a conversation, Admins would just file it as a “grievance” and try to smooth it over
Sarah Howard
37:55
Agreed - hospice training for the “standard model of care” is not working (which is created for efficiency and financial gain by the white male figure) - feels good to reclaim the feminine, the compassionate model, in this work through doula work but we have a lot of work to do, thank you for having this conversation
Felicia Barlow Clar
38:00
Egregiously wrong!
Shonna Vance
38:10
That situation could have been addressed with anger. That’s disrespectful!
Stephanie DePiano
38:15
oh God, Desiree, horrific and dismissive of human life.
Shonna Vance
39:09
Yes....that Naomi.....snap.snap.snap
Awujoola Robin
39:16
that part
Jo M
39:41
Yesss!!!
Corinne
39:44
Absolutely, Naomi.
Jerry
39:49
wow yes thank you
Audrey Gidman (she/they)
39:57
yes xx
Sarah Howard
40:10
Yessss
Julie Weatherhead
40:15
Call people out and in
Nicole
40:21
On point..... Naomi
Mo Bielawski
40:24
Hi all! Thank you so much for this panel! I'm a white student, studying the modern American funeral industry and sustainable death practices. I'm looking to help organize grief support/death cafes in my area for BIPOC folks who need support. Does anyone have advice about how to go about this in a way that is trauma informed and centers anti-racist work?
Terri
40:39
Thank you Naomi! That was going to be one of my questions as a white person, new to the Doula field. I have started reading “Me and White Supremacy” and I am not afraid to call myself or other ppl out.
Jerry
40:51
i can promise you i will stay on hpna
Denise Seguin Horth
41:26
so true
Jo M
41:29
The grief is ongoing too
Awujoola Robin
41:33
yes
Fox
41:39
Word.
Kate DeBartolo
42:00
Love that ring theory, Alica -- always going out a layer
Kate DeBartolo
42:14
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-xpm-2013-apr-07-la-oe-0407-silk-ring-theory-20130407-story.html
Kalisto Nanen
42:27
“Leave me alone this is about me” — when folks ask did I offend you. No. Im just surrounding myself with other black and brown organizers and being asked how Im doing when Im not ok
Julie Weatherhead
42:33
Yes!
Dex
42:43
“I don’t need a hug” yes! it can be so condescending and completely unhelpful
Awujoola Robin
42:45
just said that to a "friend"
Terri
43:14
People have to stop taking someone’s “leave me alone” personally. Be open and understand, its not about you. Period!
Jill McClennen
44:27
Thank you again for doing the work still.
Fox
45:00
I'm angry to hear Desiree's story and I'm actually here looking for answers for such disrespect to black bodies and mourning. Where should we report these issues and make them known?
Rocio Navarro
45:01
water!
Awujoola Robin
45:14
honestly a matter of self care, release and move forward according to what we can feel safe to do
Fox
45:36
@Kalisto: 100.
Kalisto Nanen
46:04
I think that not enough companies and orgs have meditation rooms. Not enough funeral homes have an on site chaplain or grief counselor for employees.
Sheree Sophas
46:22
ain’t NO way
Jerry
46:30
trauma and grief
Sheree Sophas
47:37
There’s no more room for me to push down ANYTHING
Evening Star
47:39
Great question, Fox.
Dex
47:42
hits unexpectedly throughout the day
Fox
47:47
Absolutely affected. Can't close my eyes without seeing the violence.
Colette Johns
50:05
no one's grief is the same...we all need to be aware of that and accept/respect the differences
Kalisto Nanen
50:53
Such a valid point around healthy vs non healthy outlets.
Kalisto Nanen
51:12
And unspoken trauma and grief in the funeral service industry
A Chang
51:29
Grief is a part of humanity and I’m glad you hold/create spaces for grief.
Raven Stevenson
51:59
it feels like an overarching theme in death work, there isn’t space for traumatic death & the accompanying grief.
sdm
52:30
COMMENT: This is why the whole, "Bring your whole self to work" mantra is BS (in my opinion). As I'm sure all of us are aware, and have likely experienced, many workplaces don't allow space for all of these emotions. Right now, bringing one's whole self to work means bringing grief, shock, anger, and in some cases, numbness, to work. And not everyone is willing or able to make space/hold space for our natural, emotional reactions to the times we are in.
Terri
54:24
I would agree with you 100% on that @sdm. Workplaces don’t want to see and cant handle someone’s grief.
Raven Stevenson
54:32
in my training the takeaway was “maybe you want to reconsider taking traumatic deaths”
Sheree Sophas
57:29
forget or ignore?
Darren Evans
57:36
It's very early in the morning here in the UK and I need to go (early start) but I just wanted to say that this has been extremely insightful, informative and educational. I do hope this is the first of many. Thank you so much!
Kimberley
57:42
what she said!!! wow
Jordana Hall
57:54
"The family is not responsible for protecting your feelings" THIS
Kalisto Nanen
58:01
That statement speaks volumes @sdm. If folx want me to bring my whole self they’re going to have to respect that grieving, autistic, transgender, anxious, fearful, shocked, angry, gay person
Jasalynne Northcross
58:15
I felt that
Jo M
58:47
How and where can we have more conversations like this?
Evening Star
58:52
Having a hunger to hear all of the questions/answers.
Piotr
01:01:16
That’s so disturbing to me.
Angela Dawn
01:01:19
wow
Sheree Sophas
01:01:32
You hit a nerve. I didn’t know I was living with that trauma as well until you said it @Alicia
Jane Dowling
01:02:54
I echo this: How and where can we have more conversations like this?
Tawnya Musser
01:04:35
Intersections!
Sabrina Fletcher
01:04:43
These are such important conversations, thank you for inviting us into this space.
Kalisto Nanen
01:04:45
If you build it they will come @Jane
meikaloe
01:04:51
yes, toxic stress!
Kalisto Nanen
01:05:00
In the workplace, with educators
sdm
01:05:06
I'm writing a comment about this right now! Stay tuned!
Briana Simmons
01:05:09
Do you all view death work as part of the movement for Black lives? If so, can you speak to one way your work in the death space is aligned with Black liberation?
Briana Simmons
01:05:17
What does your after care look like? Particularly after working with Black families
Mo Bielawski
01:05:37
yes! a good death is increasingly difficult at intersections
Raven Stevenson
01:05:48
^this question!!
A Hennessy
01:07:05
What about the work of Sobonfu Some’
Loren Talbot
01:07:12
Thank you all for your time, rawness, and willingness to share. Do not want to leave, but need to put my child to bed. Look forward to possibly hearing the end of the conversation if it is posted later.
Evening Star
01:07:14
Thank you so much for helping to make sense of this stuff for me. You are beginning to hold onto all of the loose ends in a way that really helps to illustrate just how intensely blind so many of us have been to the many issues that white folk are not living, or dying, with.
Kate DeBartolo
01:07:35
As Edwin Lindo said - race shouldn't be pathologized, racism is what needs to be pathlogized
Jasalynne Northcross
01:07:39
42 WHERE ??
Jo M
01:07:45
You all are speaking to the layers of grief, anxiety, anger, and fear that I have been experiencing trying to put words to for the last month now. Thank you!
Tawnya Musser
01:07:57
Please!
Dr. Diana Quinn Inlak'ech (she/her)
01:08:10
Yes!
Tawnya Musser
01:08:17
Yep
sdm
01:08:46
COMMENT with rhetorical question (food for thought): This isn't directed to the panel - just commenting here - but I've never heard anyone talk about how death and funerals work for incarcerated family members. Conversely, how to people with incarcerated family members get to the "ideal" image of the "whole family" being around you when you die when your mom, dad, grandparent, or other close family member is incarcerated? It’s so sad that one of the rights that incarcerated individuals lose is the right to participate in their family members’ deaths OR the right to have their families participate in their deaths.
sdm
01:09:03
*how do
Arza Goldstein
01:09:09
Thank you for this conversation.
Awujoola Robin
01:09:20
thank you, everyone. this conversation is healing. just to be able to unpack a bit with like minds in brown bodies
Sheree Sophas
01:09:22
Word!
Debra Wilbur
01:09:25
i have been attending so many online conversations/zooms these last few days. this conversation has been THE MOST IMPACTFUL i’m so grateful to all of you for your stark honesty and generosity. i hear and you. i’m absorbing all that you are saying. thank you thank you thank you.
Piotr
01:09:25
As a white person, I did not know the deep down trauma black people live with constantly. This is such an insightful conversation, not only on grief and dying, but also on the impact we all have on one another.
Piotr
01:10:00
It has stirred me up and opened my eyes quite a bit. Thank you.
k
01:10:01
thinking of all those in our communities who have died without a home makes me cry
Tawnya Musser
01:10:02
If we do this work well we are phasing out our roles because communities reclaim what was always rightfully theirs all along.
Deb Holtz
01:10:05
Powerful conversation. exceelnt
Mo Bielawski
01:10:14
compassionate carework is amazing!
Sheree Sophas
01:10:15
Thank you, Lashanna!
Deb Holtz
01:10:38
Share the shit. I love
Tawnya Musser
01:10:57
YEEESSS!!
Tawnya Musser
01:11:03
Bartering or the win!
Danna
01:11:06
yes!!!
Tawnya Musser
01:11:09
*for
Beth Guzman
01:11:37
yes!
sdm
01:11:45
Multiple snaps Terri and Kalisto re: bringing grief and other aspects of ourselves to work.
Laurie Dietrich
01:12:00
Tawnya, YES. Our work is simply the work that has been done, historically, by elders and community members. White supremacy has been instrumental in destroying those communities that held this work.
Sheree Sophas
01:12:06
Crab in the barrel=racism
Jerry
01:12:09
mutual aid
Sheree Sophas
01:12:25
me, I and no we
Tawnya Musser
01:12:30
Death works isn't clean work. We are In. The Muck. Get comfortable there. With the edges. And Breathe.
Tawnya Musser
01:15:02
Preach!
Meagan Williams
01:15:09
You ALL need to drop your Venmo! Emotional labor is NOT FREE and we thank you!
k
01:15:13
omg - the hoarding of knowledge (and “property”)
Tawnya Musser
01:15:20
LMAO
Sarah Howard
01:15:21
Aho Alua!
Kalisto Nanen
01:15:21
Im just going to keep getting the education and let the loans pile up in the hopes that one day they’ll go you know what charging you to learn was BS. You don’t owe shit
sdm
01:15:34
QUESTION for Panelists: Would it be helpful to have the library community partner with you to cultuvate and share resources? "Sharing the shit" is foundaitonal to the practice of librarianship. I'm a librarian, and we're not just about books. We cultuvate collections of ALL TYPES of materials and resources.
Lehua
01:15:34
Attendees!!! ::: let’s PAY for this webinar. Where can we send in offerings?
Dr. Diana Quinn Inlak'ech (she/her)
01:15:41
^^ this
Grace Lawrence
01:15:49
agreed, Lehua
Julie Weatherhead
01:15:50
YES!
Corie McMillan They/Them
01:15:56
Yes!
brooke manning
01:16:01
YES! Can you please link everyone’s PayPal in the email sent at the end of this webinar
Anne Jungerman
01:16:05
Yes. Please let us support you with $$
meikaloe
01:16:20
yes, send out a PayPal invite to all of us thank you
Deb Holtz
01:16:20
I agree. Where can we pay for this webinar???
Eliana Y.
01:16:24
YES to paying for this access to this incredible conversation!
Jill McClennen
01:16:30
@The Grave Woman, that sun behind your head makes you look like a queen with a crown. It's beautiful.
Evening Star
01:16:30
Would ove to see this as a continued webinar that we can pay for. For sure.
Julie Weatherhead
01:16:34
Water and breathing
Jolie Luba (she/her)
01:16:38
YES! Let us share our $hiT
Evening Star
01:16:39
*love
Felicia Barlow Clar
01:17:17
I hope there is a recording of this. I have to leave. It’s been beneficial. Thank you.
Beth Guzman
01:17:23
you need a "donate wall" like insight timer
Corinne Bowen
01:17:26
Everyone look for the follow up email :) The Panelists have created a resource guide where they would love for you to #sharetheshit in useful ways
Piotr
01:17:40
Great!
Sheree Sophas
01:17:41
I’m tending to my ancestor altar like a newborn baby. I need to connect with them more regularly. It soothes me.
Danna
01:17:46
Yes - @Alica - grief is a hungry ghost!
Awujoola Robin
01:17:51
wonderful! thanks so much
Grace Lawrence
01:17:57
oh yes, wonderful. sharetheshit… will do happily and generously
Mo Bielawski
01:17:58
echoing everyone offering money for this beautiful labor
Rebecca Mullins
01:18:07
You guys are the best. Incredibly powerful time spent here today. Sending big love and hugs your way.
Catherine Campion
01:18:09
I keep debating whether or not it’s worth the energy to engage in debate/education with ignorant White neighbors here in Minneapolis (mostly on NextDoor). It’s, “my job,” to work towards ending racism, but I’m not sure this is an effective use of my energies. Don’t know that I’ve softened any minds/hearts on this. Just pisses off old White folx!
Corinne
01:18:21
That's beautiful, Alica.
Grace Lawrence
01:18:34
Alicia ~ that touches me, Wearing your mothers perfume as a best self care
Mo Bielawski
01:18:37
so amazing and special
Sheree Sophas
01:18:39
Beautiful ritual.
Kalisto Nanen
01:18:41
@sdm have you seen the death reference desk?
Awujoola Robin
01:19:00
lovely Alica
Kristel Michele
01:19:03
Beautiful, beautiful ritual
Julie Weatherhead
01:19:06
Love you Alica!!
Piotr
01:19:10
Catherine, I’m in the same boat. At what point do we stop talking about it with individuals who we know won’t see things differently.
k
01:19:17
silence as Care
meikaloe
01:19:46
solidarity is casework
meikaloe
01:19:52
carework!
Heather Shaver
01:19:58
#goals Lashanna - our kids still cuddling with us when they’re that old. Love.
Denise Seguin Horth
01:20:06
So sorry to all of you, for the heavy grief being carried along with lifetimes of exhaustion. And yet, you still share! Thank you. Deep gratitude. I intend to dig deeper to learn about our communities, and my own biases.... and #ShareTheShit AND I also wish to pay somehow / donate for your time, heart, and vulnerability
Grace Lawrence
01:20:06
I only hope that as a white person of privilege, as I do my work, read, listen here to you, that when I do ask a question sincerely, that I will LISTEN.
A Hennessy
01:20:07
Can you talk about what grief work actually is and how it’s different than or not limited to crying.
Deb Holtz
01:20:17
Yes Lashanna! Kids keep it real!
Demitra Green
01:20:30
Music is my thing as well…and reading
Elle Crash
01:20:38
Grieve as you go
Danelle Harris
01:20:43
Yes. Music, nature and meditation.
Alycia Novotny
01:20:59
@catherine, same here! I got a really good taste of my own white fragility after having to talk to willfully ignorant folks this week…OMG…I can’t imagine how hard it is for BIPOC!! Jesus!
k
01:20:59
calling on our ancestors as care
Tawnya Musser
01:21:03
YES!
Tawnya Musser
01:21:07
Be in the moment!!!
Beth Guzman
01:21:09
I'm sending you all so much Love
Mo Bielawski
01:21:44
this is so incredible I feel so much love!
Denise Seguin Horth
01:21:59
So much love.. feeling it here too.
Jasalynne Northcross
01:22:03
literally leaning into my laptop. i feel the love too
darcyhansen
01:22:03
Thank you for sharing your deeply personal self-care practices. That’s the sacred work that allows you all to carry the heavy loads you carry each moment of the day.
Nicole
01:22:04
thank you ALL for this.
Kalisto Nanen
01:22:08
Music, Gardening (indoor and outdoor), resting, walking meditations and cooking new things
Nicole
01:22:09
when did silence change from solice to discomfort. How do we shift back and regain peace in it?
Becki (she/her)
01:22:09
Cry core
Brandi Miles
01:22:32
I’ve had it in my heart to make an ancestor altar, I even got advice from a friend that has one...I’m just so scared of doing it wrong 😢
Beth Guzman
01:22:36
being an empath is rough these days
Johanna Munson
01:22:50
@Brandi- there is no wrong way
Mo Bielawski
01:22:50
how do yall hope we debrief and leave this meeting?
Grace Lawrence
01:23:13
I am so grateful that you have invited us in to listen to all that you are sharing .. ALL OF IT ! … thank you o much. I feel the best kind of privileged
Barbat, Frith
01:23:15
Highly recommend Daniel Foor's book "Ancestral Medicine" for anyone interested in altars and ancestor work.
Alycia Novotny
01:23:27
So so so hard being an empath right now! The deep feels!
Grace Lawrence
01:23:30
thank you Barbat
Lavina Senior Pride
01:23:31
That you for the community.
Meagan Williams
01:23:37
Thank you all so much!!
Jo M
01:23:38
Thank you!
Deb Holtz
01:23:38
Seriously. Its banana bread time.
Megan Carmichael
01:23:55
<3
Sherry Burns
01:23:57
Thank you so much for this event. Holding space for all of you.
Holly Bastin
01:24:01
awesome, thank you for giving us ways to contribute
Kristel Michele
01:24:05
Thank you so much
Haley Scott
01:24:07
Thank you all, this was so informative and insightful. Sending you all love and support.
Debra Wilbur
01:24:07
fabulous. thank you all so very much!
Jill McClennen
01:24:09
Amazing, thank you so much for the knowledge.
Sarah Howard
01:24:10
Thank you beautiful souls
Marlou Russell
01:24:10
Thank you, all, so much.
Dr. Diana Quinn Inlak'ech (she/her)
01:24:10
You are each such a blessing. Thank you so much.
Gabrielle Garcia
01:24:11
Thank you all so much!! <3
Sheree Sophas
01:24:11
In gratitude!
Nicole Ratcliffe
01:24:13
Thank you all for your time and for sharing with us.
GraceParker
01:24:14
<3
Rachel Reed
01:24:14
Thank you all so much!
Birgitta Kastenbaum
01:24:15
Fierce Grace. So grateful for this conversation and the willingness of each of you to show us your courageous, grieving, angry and beautiful hearts.
Corinne
01:24:15
Thank you. <3
Karen Wyatt
01:24:16
Thank you so much!!
Johanna Munson
01:24:17
So grateful to you all!
Deb Holtz
01:24:18
Thank you!!!!!!!!
smartypants
01:24:20
Can’t wait to send you all $$$$ thanks so much
Nancy Walker
01:24:20
Will you send us a link to the RECORDING of this session?
Alycia Novotny
01:24:20
This has been so incredibly powerful. I send you the deepest love and support!! THANK YOU!!
Heather Shaver
01:24:20
Thank you for your wisdom and openness.
BZ Horrie
01:24:21
thank you all so much. sending so much love everyone's way.
Patty & Jon Webster
01:24:22
Full of gratitude
Noha Waibsnaider
01:24:23
thank you! really inspiring and informative. You're all amazing
Piotr
01:24:24
I want to thank the organization I volunteer for, Hospice Toronto, for sending this out in their email. Thanks Alex!!
k
01:24:24
@brandi - feed your ancestors!!! what are ancestral food and medicines they love? objects that bring them joy. they’re listening, u can express this feeling and let the ancestors know you’re doing your best (u can also ask how to feed and honour them)
Kelaiah
01:24:24
Thank you
Eliana Y.
01:24:27
Thank you so much.
Holly Bastin
01:24:29
and thank you so much for your time and vulnerability
Nicole
01:24:32
THANK YOU!!!!
Nancy Walker
01:24:32
HUGE THANKS! I learned so much!
Lehua
01:24:35
Thank you for your energy and love and openness!
Alyssa Pizarro
01:24:37
Thank you!
Dannelle
01:24:39
THANK YOU ALL so very much. So insightful and heartful!!!
celidh (she/they)
01:24:39
endless than yous for sharing your stories, wisdom, and feelings and for being seen
Jordana Hall
01:24:39
Thank you thank you thank you. My heart is full.
Sherry Schultz
01:24:41
Thank YOU for showing up.
Char Barrett
01:24:41
Deep gratitude to all of you.
Vanessa Johnston
01:24:42
So grateful! Thank you from me, Denver EOL Doula and the Colorado End of Life Collaborative. Blessings!
Marisa Verrier
01:24:44
Thank you so much! I appreciate each of you.
darcyhansen
01:24:44
Thank you all so much.
Denise Seguin Horth
01:24:45
Thank you.
Lu
01:24:45
thank you, thank you, thank you all.
meikaloe
01:24:46
grateful
brooke manning
01:24:46
Thank you for this generosity!!!!!!!
Sheree Sophas
01:24:46
Love you!
Jo M
01:24:46
Ase
francesca arnoldy
01:24:47
Thank you for taking the energy to do this. Deep bow.
Barbat, Frith
01:24:50
Gratitude.
nicole mahan
01:24:52
thank you all so much
Susan Oppie
01:24:54
Many thanks to each of you.
Donna S
01:24:54
Thank you, thank you so much. Peace.
Shaina Garfield
01:24:54
Thank you so so much
TERRY CARRETTA
01:24:55
Thank you!!
Pola Rest
01:24:56
Thanks to you all.
Alycia Novotny
01:24:57
LOVE LOVE LOVE to all of you!
Stephanie DePiano
01:25:07
thank you so much for this raw and real webinar. I’ve taken so much with me from this
Mo Bielawski
01:25:09
intergenerational trauma!
Awujoola Robin
01:25:12
confirmation for me that this is what I'm made to assist to do. I am grateful
Audrey Gidman (she/they)
01:25:13
epigenetic grief xx
Jasalynne Northcross
01:25:18
yes! say that
Maria Cieszewska-Wong
01:25:19
THANK YOU!
Fox
01:25:19
Thank you! I am still curious about what we can do if we do witness disrespect to our lost loved ones
Melanie
01:25:19
Thank you so much for you time and energy <3
Barbat, Frith
01:25:21
"It Didn't Start with You"
Dex
01:25:23
Thank you so much.
Awujoola Robin
01:25:24
ase
Noha Waibsnaider
01:25:30
amen
Fox
01:25:37
Within the industry, I mean
Beth Guzman
01:25:46
I want to help in the prisons
Demitra Green
01:25:55
I was there. Great conversation!
Danelle Harris
01:26:01
Ancestral trauma: Epigenetic…worth researching…
Grace Lawrence
01:26:04
ayes !! JOY alongside Grief
Free Space
01:26:08
Thank you ALL!
sdm
01:26:09
@Piotr and @Catherine Campion @From Alycia Novotny: I was just thinking the same thing!!! If White folx are getting tired of trying to get through to their families and friends, I wonder how tired BIPOC folx, White abolitionaist allies, and other White anti-racist allies must be after over 400 years of screaming and whispering into the void? So deep and so much to carry!
k
01:26:09
ANCESTRAL RESILIENCE
Awujoola Robin
01:26:17
ase
Sonja Godfrey-Chan
01:26:25
very grateful for this opportunity to meet and hear from such amazing souls, blessings to all of you, with Metta always.
Jordana Hall
01:26:34
Generational JOY! THIS!
Maria Cieszewska-Wong
01:26:40
love you!
Nikki Rand
01:26:41
Thank you!
Meagan Williams
01:26:42
Thank you SO MUCH
Nicole
01:26:42
Thank you for sharing some of your personal journeys. Your insight was/is very profound. Your support of one another is wonderful! Our ancestors are very proud t the way we as death care workers are beginning to turn things around.
Mo Bielawski
01:26:42
thank you!