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Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
15:42
We are recommending that the schools choose books available on Hoopla.
Linda
15:48
LOTS of schools do it, but they don't have to.
Linda
16:04
It's a competition. Schools compete from one another..
Kate
16:06
We helped the local schools edit and update their lists.
Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
16:58
Very few 2021 Nutmegs are available on Hoopla.
Linda
17:31
I believe that lists should exist, but should ALWAYS be suggested reading.
Bina Williams
17:31
BPort has a time honored read list. we have multiples of all titles at all branches. Depends on who is literacy head for schools if the city uses our list or their own. Knock wood, they are with us....
Joanna - Wolcott Public Library
17:32
Last year all the Nutmegs were put up on RBDigital, but I don't know about this year
Alessandra @ Weston
17:34
All of the 2021 Nutmegs will be available on RBdigital through the state, they purchase a copy of each that is available as ebook or audio
Kate
17:44
I think what happens is parents feel that they have to take what's on the lists rather than letting their kids pick what they enjoy.
Jennifer Larkin
18:13
We use the Nutmeg as suggested titles - but we have no requirement for what kids read over the summer
Linda
18:18
Some schools list 10 titles, you must read from the list, and they think that's "choice."
Bina Williams
18:31
cover letter says your choice but as Kate said, parents want what is on the list!
Linda
18:45
But with RB Digital, how many copies to you buy?
Lauren Gledhill
18:51
@kate It's even worse when patrons come in looking for things in their levels!
Linda
18:53
Because it's really hard to get them!
Mary-Jane - Bill Memorial Library
18:53
We have a difficult time convincing parents to choose something that is not on the list. If a particular title is checked out, we try to steer themt other titles by the same author, but they can be very resistant!
Ericka Bajrami
18:56
What I often find is that the lists - state, schools - are SUGGESTED, but parents treat them like must-reads.
Kate
18:59
We encourage parents to let their children what they want and that the lists are suggested only. Nutmegs do come in Playaways.
Kate Fields
19:04
I like broad lists with suggested authors, series, etc. rather than individual titles unless specific
Jennifer Larkin
19:56
Yes Kate - I agree!
Alessandra @ Weston
20:38
None of our schools have a reading list except for hs ap/honors classes. We emphasize that the kids can read what they want and anything they want, but parents want the lists as suggestions so we do use the governor's reading list.
Kate
20:44
It's frustrating because parents are so tied to the lists that the kids end up getting frustrated and reading then becomes a struggle.
Jennifer Larkin
21:14
Maybe the lists should be more focused on genre variety rather than specific titles
amy twing
21:14
we are primarily adding ebook versions of things to our library/school list since we don't know what the summer will look like
Linda
21:15
Or instead of looking for a book that they like, they're looking for the skinny book because they are forced to do it.
Kate
21:36
Yes, it's hard to convince the parents some times of simply using the list as a suggestion only.
Alessandra @ Weston
21:46
Kym- do you know when you will have a list available, I think we will want to purchase as many as e-books
Janice Pellegrino Stratford Library Association
21:54
When I create my suggested reading list for my high school, I do like the ability to include summaries/book titles to get people more excited about the titles.
Maria-West Haven
21:57
we emphasize the suggested part!
Ericka Bajrami
23:01
The schools send out a list, but they do ask our input an additions/deletions. We order multiple copies of many of the books on the list, but the lists are HUGE, so even if something's out there's usually a ton to choose from.
Alessandra @ Weston
23:23
The only reason we pull the books from a suggested list are because I am not always there to answer parents questions and not many other staff members are up on appropriate or great titles for ages so we need somewhere that other staff that aren't children/teen staff can point parents to.
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
23:45
our schools loan us their Nutmeg books for the summer., but this year ? we’ll have to see how things unfold
Linda
23:52
So the competition is massive!
Alessandra @ Weston
23:53
Your library can buy another copy.
Stacey Burt
24:00
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Lauren Gledhill
24:17
Seriously? smh.
Di - Westport
25:15
We are similar to Kate, we curate lists every year on grade level of SUGGESTIONS, and we book talk them at the schools. Of course they all want the books on the list. Even with multiple copies, most are gone within the first week of summer. Looking for alternatives and like the idea of broader lists.
Julie-Old Lyme
25:18
Can we all maybe call it a "Guide" instead of a "List"?
Ericka Bajrami
25:30
Another frustration is sometimes an individual teacher will send out a list to their class a couple of weeks before school starts and never gave us a heads up!
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
25:31
oh I like guide
Di - Westport
25:34
Would LOVE not to have a list
Linda
25:35
I like that idea, Julie
Jennifer Larkin
26:06
Yes to no list - let’s focus on readers advisory and maybe describe genres
Alessandra @ Weston
26:10
I think a suggested list needs to be available. We have tons of kids that come in with nannies or au pairs that have only known them a few weeks, they don't know what the kid wants to read or the level they read at.
Mary-Jane - Bill Memorial Library
26:24
Groton schools have been using the State reading lists and Nutmeg lists for the past several years.
Kate Fields
26:34
.Parents & grandparents do want some sort of guide.
Alessandra @ Weston
26:46
We just call it suggested reading
Linda
26:48
I like having a summary so that kids can decided ahead of time what they might like.
amy twing
26:51
No since sometimes they are being helped by a parttimer who might not know as many books/suggestions
Lauren Gledhill
26:54
We also don't always have a dedicated children's librarian on-desk in summers since we're so busy with programs. For our own sanity we need some sort of list
Emily - East Haven
27:00
Less compulsory
Julie-Old Lyme
28:25
Great point Alessandra. So true.
Kate
28:39
Sometimes the kids don't know what they want either.
amy twing
28:40
a list is a good way to start a reference interview and discussion
michele jacobson
30:10
At Black Rock branch in BPT we have a lot of non English speaking parents and they LOVE the list. And then, we have, as someone else said, the kids and parents searching for the skinniest book in the child's reading level. Can never convince kids that a story that interests them will be a faster read than the skinny book that bores them.
Kate
30:32
I think reframing the title is a good idea. "Suggested" has a lot of layers to it and I think "Guide" might be more of a friendlier term.
Lauren Gledhill
31:17
We do the state lists, but we also have a binder with a bunch of lists called "Libraran Picks" - past Newbery and Caldecott winners, Pura Belpre and Coretta Scott King winners, topic lists that we create in-house or we print from somewhere else, e.g. SLJ's Kindness list
Lauren Gledhill
32:08
These lists are available year-round, not just in summer
Alessandra @ Weston
32:14
Yes, to follow up with Lauren - we also have a binder with all different lists from award winners to 1000 books before kindergarten, and we also have the teachers favorites. We ask the teachers their favorite current read.
Linda
32:43
I wonder if people get OVERWHELMED with all the different lists... I do!!!
Mary-Jane - Bill Memorial Library
32:44
Yes! We keep a binder at the desk with reading lists from neighboring towns as well.
Ericka Bajrami
33:08
While I've been home I've been working on some Reader's Advisory flyers with input from the whole children's staff for suggested reading that can be used the whole year, and in addition to the summer list, to help caregivers and kids discover books of interest.
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
33:09
we have year round trifolds of suggested titles broken down by grade so that , like Weston, staff and patrons can use them when a librarian is not available and they’re great for the librarians on staff as well. we also have a suggested reading binder with school recommendations , award winners, etc
michele jacobson
33:27
We use summer reading lists as jumping off points during the school year. If we can get the child into reading at their grade level, then we can suggest items that aren't on the lists.
Kate Fields
34:53
We have the lists available all year too. It is a good start in finding books for kids.
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
35:07
yes
Alessandra @ Weston
35:29
We also label the books from the suggested summer lists with a color system as we continue to have parents coming in asking about the levels their schools use whether it is F&P, Lexile or something else. This allows us to say we do not level, but books with pink dots are suggested for grades k-2.
Linda
36:04
Sort of assists to readers advisory, then, Michele!
Linda- Hartford Public Library
36:08
Hartford has Readers to go packets by levels
Stacey Burt
36:33
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Stacey Burt
36:44
Sorry!
Brienne Tripp
37:05
if a list is made maybe have authors and book suggestions and not have it be related to the theme?
Kate Fields
37:11
Yes, it is a starting point.
Linda
37:18
TOTALLY, Bina!
Linda
37:34
You may add a section, and then when someone else takes over, they take it out.
Liz @ Ferguson
37:37
We have a very long list (lots of choices) for grades pre-k to 8, which we make along with the Board of Ed, and they distribute to all the students. There isn't really much in the way of requirement from the schools, other than reading something, so even if a kid doesn't find something actually on the list, we can suggest something else that attracts them
Janice Pellegrino Stratford Library Association
38:17
In Stratford, we're calling those in-between books "Bridge Books": labelling them and shelving them separately
Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
38:54
We also separate them out and call them “short Chapter.”
Linda
38:55
Isn
Kate Fields
38:56
Who has the schools approve your lists?
Lauren Gledhill
38:56
We do bridge books too!
Linda
39:07
Isn't that what the GSRC list is?
michele jacobson
39:18
You guys are making me want to break into my branch and rearrange the place before the authorities catch up withme!
Ericka Bajrami
39:33
I think it's easy to bring the public librarians together but it's getting schools on board that might be trickier.
Linda
40:42
The original intent for the GSRC lists was to unify the GSRC with library SRPs. And also to model what a good list looks like... e.g. don't just put a title with no author, make sure you spelled the whole thing correctly, give kids some idea of what the book is about, etc.
Kymberlee Powe
40:46
I see you Liz you can be next.
Kate
41:06
That's what happens in Middletown. The schools put it together and we edit and add titles.
Di - Westport
41:34
Interesting Ericka..In Westport the schools have no input for the lists. They are all created by us at the public library
Jennifer Larkin
41:54
yes
Janice Pellegrino Stratford Library Association
43:10
Putting on my school librarian hat, we like to keep our lists fresher and sometimes it seems that the public library decisions are to put on older titles and the kids see that as not up to date
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
43:32
Easton labels the school summer recommended reading andwe pull the schools recommended reading lists & governor’s reading list and shelve them up front by the circ desk for easy access
Kate Fields
43:38
I agree, it would be hard to have all the books.
Kate
43:58
I think between the Gov. List and the schools list it gets confusing. We've had questions like: if we read books from the Gov.Rdng list does it count for schools and vice versa. Minimizing the number of lists might help.
Bina Williams
44:23
Can we post all our lists on the CSL site?
Maureen
44:24
Kym, if you're working on the Gov's list, will you be doing any sort of push w/school systems to get them on board using it?
Kate
44:24
Or: do I need to read from one or both lists.
Linda
44:31
When I was really into this, one of my big complaints about school lists is that they were the same every year (for 10, 15, 20 years) without any revision. So I am really surprised to hear this other perspective!
Jennifer Larkin
44:31
Maybe a committee Kym - joining public librarians and school librarians to discuss this issue further?
Bina Williams
44:34
Ours is on our website
Bina Williams
46:18
we plan to add ebooks and e-audio of list books
Lauren Gledhill
46:24
@bina that's a great idea!
Bina Williams
47:52
https://bportlibrary.org/site/wp-content/uploads/summer-reading-list-2019-1.pdf
Bina Williams
50:15
But each school system can be territorial about their lists.
Bina Williams
51:05
I think it is terrific to have out there whether this town or that city uses it...
Janice Pellegrino Stratford Library Association
51:48
Nothing wrong with a committee but playing devil's advocate: We may have different populations of kids and have different books be more popular in certain areas. I find that even with the two high schools in our one town.
Linda
51:59
I totally wonder what the criteria would be for that statewide committee given the sheer numbers of books there are
Julie-Old Lyme
52:29
Can we do a CT Summer Guide of ebooks and audiobooks?
Linda
52:49
Good idea, Julie!
Kate
52:53
Janice, yes! Every kid is different and it's hard to find some "popular" titles that go across the board, reader wise.
Ericka Bajrami
52:54
If we did want to explore a more unified list, we'd need to make it relatively extensive so there is lots of choice
Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
52:55
Good idea, Julie!
Ericka Bajrami
53:32
The Farmington lists are quite long too
Linda
53:42
And East Lyme HS
Kate
54:28
Playaways and bookpacks are very popular at Russell. I love the idea of ebooks and audiobooks.
Liz @ Ferguson
54:38
https://fergusonlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019-joint-list.pdf Here is the Stamford summer list, from last year if anyone wants to look
Di - Westport
54:41
Does anyone else booktalk books to the schools before summer?
Liz @ Ferguson
55:06
Di--We booktalk to the middle and high schools
Alessandra @ Weston
55:13
That would only include what is available through the state though. Your library could have other books available as ebooks and audios that you purchase.
Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
55:30
YES!
Maria-West Haven
55:32
dewfinitely
Janice Pellegrino Stratford Library Association
55:35
Yes Kym
Emily - East Haven
55:35
Yes
Kate
55:35
Some. We do visit the schools and either read a chapter as a teaser OR do a quick storytelling
Kate
55:42
My connection keeps coming in and out so I'm missing some things.
Alessandra @ Weston
55:44
We booktalk for grades k-2
Stacey Burt
55:46
yes please
Linda- Hartford Public Library
56:17
YES
Maria-West Haven
56:28
yes
Linda
56:32
That sounds great!
Kate
56:34
Yes Kym. Thank you.
Evelyn- Bristol Manross
56:39
yes!
Coralie~ Henry Carter Hull, Clinton
56:41
Perfect!
Maureen
56:47
Editable doc would be perfect.
Jennifer Larkin
56:52
Just like the Nutmeg lists Kym - they get sent out to librarians really early, but aren’t released until May - giving time for librarians to purchase what is needed before kids are asking/requesting - you might want to do that with the Governor’s list.
Alessandra @ Weston
56:54
Yes, can you make as a google doc or editable file so we can add what we have available for ebook and audio
Mary-Jane - Bill Memorial Library
57:04
Yes to an editable document
michele jacobson
57:23
Yes, editable document!
Linda
58:04
I think it is really helpful when making a list, to include the criteria for selection.
Linda
58:19
Even if it's just "books we like"
Kate
58:24
What is happening with the early elementary nutmegs? Are the schools promoting Nutmegs? I've heard various things on that.
Alessandra @ Weston
58:27
That is what happens with the AP/Honors HS classes. They are the only ones that assign books. I get the list so late. Last year they actually changed the list after I had already ordered multiple copies.
Linda
58:31
YES!
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
58:52
yes it’s frustrating
Alessandra @ Weston
59:05
Our schools, promote the nutmegs. These are what they suggest to the kids throughout the year to read.
michele jacobson
59:26
We get intermediate and high school lists which require the kids to read 1 from column A, 2 from Column B and some esoteric nonfiction title...
Jennifer Larkin
59:46
That’s what we focus on
Linda
59:53
High schools don't generally push the Nutmegs...
Liz @ Ferguson
59:53
We include the nutmegs every year on our list, and discuss them, but there just aren't enough titles
Alessandra @ Weston
59:54
Michele that is how it was when I was in school!
Lauren Gledhill
01:00:04
I don't know if our schools are promoting the elementary Nutmegs. Kids devour the grades 4+ nutmegs but our elementary ones sit on the shelves!
Liz @ Ferguson
01:00:22
Plus the schools promote the nutmegs all year, so we would need more titles
Julie-Old Lyme
01:00:29
This would be great- thanks Kym! Digital resources available by grade level...If it could be customized/edited even better. Maybe it can get a hashtag...?
Ericka Bajrami
01:00:36
Our upper elementary school does March Madness every other year with the Nutmegs, so they actually don't want us to promote the new Nutmegs too much during the summer before.
Evelyn- Bristol Manross
01:00:46
Same in Bristol...not much demand for Elementary lists
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
01:00:56
love it
Liz @ Ferguson
01:00:56
I like the hashtag!
Maria-West Haven
01:00:56
interesting
Julie-Old Lyme
01:00:58
That's the one
Linda
01:01:01
Yes!
Jennifer Larkin
01:01:02
But the new list is released in May for Nutmegs - so kids don’t usually start reading those in schools until the following year
michele jacobson
01:01:23
Alessandra, it's just so frustrating when the one "sexy" book on the list is missing...one year it was Robin Cook's Mutation.
Mary Beth Rassulo -Easton
01:01:25
right
Kate
01:01:27
cool
Lauren Gledhill
01:01:30
I wonder if it's tougher to promote the early elementary ones because the reading levels haven't evened out as much?
Bina Williams
01:01:57
the HS list in BPort is a pain...school used to provide copies of books on their list...half we kept after the summer and half went to school library. it was terrific. :;ast year, there were online articles for them to read instead...
Alessandra @ Weston
01:02:18
Our Elementary School does the nutmegs 1 each week as classroom reads starting in January so they can vote in April
Kate
01:03:09
How does that work, borrowing from the school library for the summer and tracking where the books are?
Maria-West Haven
01:03:14
that's a great idea!
Joanna - Wolcott Public Library
01:03:49
a dummy barcode
Kate
01:04:05
Sorry, my computer cut out.
Ericka Bajrami
01:04:09
Plainville did that for a long time - gave them all the Nutmegs for the summer, because they asked kids to read the Nutmegs over the summer
Linda
01:04:09
What is amazing is that things don't change much. I've been in this for 30+ years, and the same problems have been around at least since then...
Jess Nelson
01:04:31
The school has barcodes on the nutmegs we borrow from them and tech services uses that barcode to add into our system.
Lauren Gledhill
01:04:33
We do that too, the dummy barcode. Might have it set up like an ILL dummy barcode
Kate
01:05:38
Great. Ok. Thanks.
Bina Williams
01:06:03
Keep Calm and Carry On!!!
Linda
01:06:08
Thanks, Kym.
Jennifer Larkin
01:06:09
Thanks Kym!
Maria-West Haven
01:06:09
thank you!!
Emily - East Haven
01:06:12
Thank you!
Cheryl - Hall Memorial
01:06:16
thank you!
Evelyn- Bristol Manross
01:06:18
thank you!
michele jacobson
01:06:19
Thank you Kim!
Liz @ Ferguson
01:06:20
Thanks all!