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Access, Enrollment and Success: Statewide Results for Transfer-level English and Math - Shared screen with speaker view
Angela Pignotti, Ph.D.
45:06
Can you please show the math slide again
Angela Pignotti, Ph.D.
45:28
Thank you.
Tammi Marshall
46:01
I noticed in math the gains are not as great across ethnic groups … no question, but don't want it to go unsaid.
Angela Pignotti, Ph.D.
46:10
I missed the introduction - are these results from particular colleges?
yihunie_yosief
47:56
on the methodology: did you exclude (from the cohort) students with previous English enrollment? students with no English enrollment in the first year? students whose first enrollment is above English 1?
John Hetts
48:02
@Angela - these are systemwide results across all colleges.
Tammi Marshall
48:29
Same question for math
John Hetts
48:52
@yihunie @Tammi All of these outcomes/results are examine students that are first time in the system.
Tammi Marshall
49:06
Thank you John!
John Hetts
49:08
*are examining
luis.flores
49:33
Any clues/suggestions/thoughts/working assumptions why the math enrollment is low? relative to ENGL
Tammi Marshall
50:26
As a math teacher I have lots of thoughts on why, but would love to hear what the presenters have to say ...
Lan Hao
52:46
chart 7: this is system -wide data?
John Hetts
54:25
@Luis - adoption systemwide of some of these changes has been a bit slower/more uneven in mathematics, partly because of the complications of addressing different transfer-level starting points across colleges as well as students who may be served by different types of mathematics pathways. Also, AB705 ultimately does allow colelges some flexibility to place students below transfer-level in degree-applicable math if the students don’t have transfer-goals.
luis.flores
55:50
(Thanks!)
David Beydler
56:47
For BSTEM, this includes Trigonometry and Precalculus, right?
David Beydler
57:41
Got it--thanks!
Eric M
58:12
Is it possible for colleges to receive this data broken out for our individual campuses?
Craig Hayward
58:26
David Beydler - Yes!
Karen Chow
01:00:44
Thanks for sharing these findings! Is there a slide on systemwide total numbers of first time students, broken out by ethnicity, for all of these terms (Fall 2015, Fall 2016, Fall 2017, & Fall 2018), which would include both successful and unsuccessful students, and also the breakouts of unsuccessful % by ethnicity? This will be important for GP and further 705 improvements…thanks
Angela Pignotti, Ph.D.
01:02:15
Could the sample sizes for each year be included?
Matt
01:08:26
Have you created cross-tabs based on racial/ethnic profile and GPA bands?
Tammi Marshall
01:08:35
This is where 'in the classroom' or pedagogical changes need to be considered in conjunction with structural changes.
Tammi Marshall
01:10:35
Yes!!!
Nicole Bryant Lescher
01:11:49
Too, this seems like a good reminder of the strong connection between context for a learner and the content--students coming from high school carry their context with them alongside their content knowledge.
Tammi Marshall
01:13:09
Was the throughput for the other years one-year or one-term?
Craig Hayward
01:13:31
All one-term.
Tammi Marshall
01:13:43
Thanks Craig!
Kyle Crider
01:14:29
Any work being done to look into different sources of GPA data, especially in light of MMPS...Cal-PASS Plus vs CCGI vs CCCApply self reports?
John Hadad
01:15:14
we’re working on an integration with CDE that will allow access to an additional source of verified data.
Eric M
01:16:18
Do you have any sense of when CalPass Student Success Metrics might be updated with 2018-2019 date?
David Beydler
01:17:30
Are there plans to research trends in students dropping out of college? Some are worried about students being turned away from college by failing transfer-level courses. It would be great to know if these worries have a foundation or not.
Michelle Vidaurri
01:18:25
Hello- Who is the contact person for the MMPS Data mapping. Working on mapping to our SIS as we speak, and I have questoions.
Eric M
01:18:32
Thanks so much!
Doreen Finkelstein
01:18:36
Are there plans to disaggregate the systemwide data between colleges that were early implementers of AB 705 and those that were not? This are really impressive systemwide changes given that not everyone had implemented yet; wondering what it llooks like just among implementers.
Matt
01:18:39
An alternative to using HSGPA is to calculate first-term collegiate GPA. Research has shown a high degree of correlation between these variables.
David Beydler
01:20:49
Thanks, Craig!
John Hetts
01:21:37
@Doreen - that will be something that we’ll be studying over the next steps of the project but definitely watch for a PPIC report on early adopters/implementers that will be published on October 8.
Sherryanne
01:21:48
Hello All. Thanks, in advance, for your answers/insights regarding my questions. So...here they are: (1) what information do you have regarding students that have no GPA, nontraditional, disabled, international; (2) face-to-face versus fully online/hybrid courses--and their impact on throughput rates; and (3) stand-alone courses versus courses with linked/required co-req support classes?--Sherryanne.
David Beydler
01:22:02
Thank you, too, Mallory!
Eric M
01:23:15
Thanks, John. I'll be in touch to request data for Ventura College.
John Hetts
01:24:03
@Doreen - there was also a nice report showing some initial information about adoption in the greater Los Angeles area, the Inland Empire, and the Central Valley came out a few weeks ago from the Campaign for College Opportunity.
rodriguez
01:24:08
@Doreen -- you might be interested in the event about the PPIC report: https://www.ppic.org/event/broadening-access-to-transfer-level-courses-at-californias-community-colleges/
Tammi Marshall
01:24:23
@Mallory - Thank you for explaining that fuller!
Sherryanne
01:24:42
Thanks for the explanation, Mallory!--Sherryanne.
John Hetts
01:25:02
https://collegecampaign.org/portfolio/getting-there/
Doreen Finkelstein
01:25:39
Thanks, all! I've been comparing these results to what we've seen at Foothill (implemented early for math). Similar trends -- increased access and throughput, but still equity gaps.
Karen Chow
01:27:42
Thanks for all the information and answering questions, Mallory, Craig & John
Tammi Marshall
01:28:33
@Mallory @Terrence @Craig @John - thank you for a great talk!
Sherryanne
01:30:10
Before the session ends, just wanted to say: Thank you very much to Craig, Joh, Mallory, and Terrence for today's webinar. I learned a lot!--Sherryanne.
Sherryanne
01:30:27
Ooops...John :)
Karen Chow
01:30:52
whoops, did not mean to leave out thanking Terrence
Angela Pignotti, Ph.D.
01:31:37
The percentages are sections offered, not successful students in these sections, right?
Mallory Newell
01:32:14
Yes, percent offered, not success.
Terrence Willett
01:32:17
Thanks Karen!
John Hetts
01:32:58
There was a question about how to adopt/work on mapping the Multiple Measures Placement Service (MMPS) to your local SIS. The MMPS contact is John Hadad: : jhadad@ccctechcenter.orgYou can also reach out to their College Relationship Manager at CRMs@ccctechcenter.org
Nicole Bryant Lescher
01:34:57
Thank you Mallory, John, Terence, and Craig!
Terrence Willett
01:35:48
Thanks Nicole!
biely
01:36:18
Thank you all!
David Beydler
01:36:26
Thank you!
Kyle Crider
01:36:36
Thanks!