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Guohui Liu, LAc - OAA Sponsored CEU/Webinar - Shared screen with speaker view
Danielle Melanson
37:55
I have not received notes either - daniellemelanson@me.com thank you!
Kelly Duvendack
39:28
no notes yet here either:
Kelly Duvendack
39:38
Bridgepoint@live.com for Kelly Duvendack
Jon Conant
39:39
Notes sent to you and Timothy and Danielle.
Kelly Duvendack
40:11
thanks Jon
Jon Conant
40:22
Just send Kelly, no prob. :)
Paul Messersmith-Glavin
41:18
I didn’t receive notes either: pglavin16@gmail.com
dana lavoie
41:21
yes I can hear you clearly
Dani Brunner
41:22
Hi Dr. Liu! So good to see you:) Yes we can hear you
Margaret Maitan
41:24
yes
Kevi Keenom
41:26
Yes!
Bijana Kadakia
41:27
Yes, we can hear you!
christine Knight
41:28
yes
Deb Espesete
41:29
Yes! Hooray!
Yuqing Kou
41:30
Yes can hear you!
Steven Foster-Wexler, LAc
41:32
Yes
Tracy Thorne
41:33
yes
Kimberly Dornan
41:33
yes :)
Ed Gibbs
41:34
yes
Kelly Duvendack
41:35
Yes hearing here too
Carol
41:36
No problems
Taya Lindley
41:39
We hear you, you sound great!
dana lavoie
41:39
Hi Dr Liu - it has been many years since school - it’s so good to see you thank you so much for this class
dana lavoie
41:49
I graduated 2003
Liane Owen
42:00
Yes!
OAA
42:54
Here are the notes https://www.oaaom.com/resources/Guohui%20Liu%20notes%204-16-20.pdf
OAA
46:39
Here are the notes - xhttps://www.oaaom.com/resources/Guohui%20Liu%20notes%204-16-20.pdf
OAA
46:49
I emailed notes to everyone who asked.
OAA
46:56
But here is a link too!
dana lavoie
47:14
I always loved your Taoist approach to herbalism the most! open the door - get out of the way - let the pathogen leave.
Ellen Shefi
47:30
Sending my best regards to you all! Lots of love…..
OAA
50:12
https://www.oaaom.com/resources/Guohui%20Liu%20notes%204-16-20.pdf
OAA
50:24
Link to notes, one more time. Thanks Erin!
OAA
50:31
https://www.oaaom.com/resources/Guohui%20Liu%20notes%204-16-20.pdf
Greg Livingston
56:48
疫气 yi qi
Eric Stephens
57:12
or you can write it on a piece of paper and hold it up to the camera
dana lavoie
57:17
looks like he can choose at the bottom which app to share
Greg Livingston
57:22
This is what Dr. Liu tried to type
guohui Liu
59:40
疫气yi qi
Judy Simonsen-Cazier
01:04:13
Yes, I had 2 patients
Greg Livingston
01:04:14
I’ve seen a few
Greg Livingston
01:04:18
telemedicine
Kelly Duvendack
01:04:20
Only suspected case and shot tongue over phone
Greg Livingston
01:04:22
but not all in Oregon
Julie Goss
01:04:35
No, closed on 3/19....
Liane Owen
01:04:48
no, but i know someone who’s husband had it for 2 weeks. age ~45.
Whitney Tuxbury
01:05:01
1 mild case confirmed
TIMOTHY SUH
01:05:26
I’m in Chicago and there are many presentations
Catherine Lowe
01:07:17
Please everyone mute yourself
OAA
01:09:14
Everyone is muted on my end.
OAA
01:09:56
People on their phones I can't mute.
OAA
01:10:02
Maybe they can?
Eric Stephens
01:10:58
rashes are also a symptom, apparently
claudia voyles
01:25:32
I am hearing about lots of blood clots in the lungs and elsewhere
Hana Lanin
01:26:16
but what about the hemoglobin problem?
Julie Goss
01:31:13
Which Cooling Herbs, please?
Liane Owen
01:31:15
Couldn’t hear those herbs, got fuzzy.
guohui Liu
01:31:32
chi shao yao, mu dan pi
Liane Owen
01:31:34
chi shao yao
Hana Lanin
01:31:43
I don't see the blood level stuff in the notes
guohui Liu
01:33:21
qiang jin wei jin tang
Jake Rockwell
01:34:43
What taste in mouth?
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:35:28
Loss of taste
guohui Liu
01:35:49
Xiao chai hu tang plus bo he, man jing zi
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:38:06
Link to notes for all again!
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:38:08
https://www.oaaom.com/resources/Guohui%20Liu%20notes%204-16-20.pdf
dana lavoie
01:38:55
thank you for that explanation so good
ellen goldsmith
01:39:15
What about post COVID fatigue and phlegm?
dana lavoie
01:40:53
is there a lot of lung yin damage from this infection? are you seeing this?
Liane Owen
01:40:59
i have a pt. whose had the SP/ST symptoms and the fatigue. She’s over it now, but how to support her? She’s not weak, but she has history of weak SP. Her lungs seem ok. (When you talk fast i can’t hear all)
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:41:52
You're doing great, Dr. Liu.
ellen goldsmith
01:42:01
Yes, thank you!
Eric Stephens
01:42:21
I can hear well
Julie Goss
01:43:24
fresh what?
Sarah Frances Fan
01:43:29
They have fresh Shan Yao at uwajimaya labeled as nagaimo
Yuqing Kou
01:43:29
Shan yao
Michelle Hawkins
01:43:46
Thank you!
Catherine Lowe
01:43:51
Where can we get fresh shan yao here?
Ashly Murphy
01:43:56
fresh ginger
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:43:57
She didn't go to Japan!
Yuqing Kou
01:44:10
Many Asian grocery stores have fresh Shan Yao
Liane Owen
01:44:19
thanks so much. maybe korean market here in se portland has it.
Catherine Lowe
01:44:27
Thanks.
Yuqing Kou
01:44:35
Uwajimaya (as someone already mentioned), the Asian Food Center, Hong Phat (in SE PDX)
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:44:52
I bet Cali Saigon has it too.
Kelly Duvendack
01:45:53
FuBonn SE 82nd too
Yuqing Kou
01:46:07
Chang Fa Market (also SE PDX)
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:46:52
Shi Gan Ma Huang Tang
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:46:56
?
TIMOTHY SUH
01:46:58
KOREAN SWEET POTATOES 고구마, GoGuMa
Greg Livingston
01:47:29
She Gan Ma Huang Tang
Kelly Duvendack
01:47:32
Dr. Liu my suspected case was only given a cough suppressant by his MD, and directed NO Chinese herbs (darnit) but wouldn't this actually make him worse by the nature of retention of phlegm?
Zoe Holman
01:48:04
No not at OCOM
Eliot Sitt
01:48:15
Can’t get bulk Ma Huang at OCOM
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:48:22
Thanks Greg.
Carol
01:48:32
All this is listed in order as he is speaking if you open the notes in another window and follow along.
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:48:50
Ah, yes. Thanks for the reminder!
Jennifer Bookout
01:49:00
thank you!
Kelly Duvendack
01:49:24
I just backed off--only question for our strategies we discuss-thank you
Stuart Greenleaf
01:53:13
Dr. Liu, please comment on the use of formula Bai He Gu Jin - "Lily bulb preserve metal".
Sarah Frances Fan
01:57:25
If bei mu is not available, what is the best substitute?
olivia kellar
01:59:15
What was the herb that was suggested for purging through the bowel movement? There was Da Huang and one more.
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
01:59:33
It's in the notes, I believe.
Kevi Keenom
01:59:35
Rou cong rou
Jeff Pufnock
01:59:38
Rou cong rong
Zoe Holman
01:59:53
xing ren, tao ren, lai fu zi, gua lo ren, Rou Cong rong for yang def
Steven Foster-Wexler, LAc
02:00:02
If Dr. Liu is typing, I’m not seeing it…
olivia kellar
02:00:15
thank you
Kevi Keenom
02:00:17
GUOHUI who are you typing to?
Lisa Francesca Ferrari
02:01:11
Dr. Liu, 54 y.o. patient, History asthma. Started with sore throat & heat in Left Lung, had it for 2 weeks, 3rd week got 24 hour vomit/diarrhea. Did better briefly after a Vitamin C IV 25 grams but still great stagnation of damp. No pneumonia, tested negative from nasal swap for COVID-19 however they did not do an anal swab. What foods/herbs you suggest for her continue heat in lung and heat in liver ? she has no visible phlegm
guohui Liu
02:02:15
gan jiang, ban xia, xi xin
Steven Foster-Wexler, LAc
02:02:29
If patient has hypertension, do you still use high doses of Huang Qi, or is there another herb that you would use to strengthen Zheng Qi?
guohui Liu
02:02:33
Zhang Zhi-Wen
Eric Stephens
02:02:51
those 3 herbs special for what?
guohui Liu
02:02:52
gan jiang combined with zhi ke
Eric Stephens
02:04:10
could we hold cases until after the presentation?
guohui Liu
02:05:39
xi yang shen
Hana Lanin
02:08:29
it's legal to grow mahuang here :)
Hana Lanin
02:08:38
for personal use!
Liane Owen
02:08:40
do you have good alternates to xi xin?
Kelly Duvendack
02:09:43
That's great Hana Lanin-how to get the seeds?
guohui Liu
02:10:39
zi wan, kuan dong hua
Jeff Pufnock
02:10:42
Strictly Medicinal Seeds carries the seeds.
Kelly Duvendack
02:11:21
thank you
guohui Liu
02:12:29
bai zhu and fu ling
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:13:39
Everybody please keep an eye out for an evaluation for this event in your email!
OAA
02:14:05
Link to Evaluation - https://forms.gle/CQZ5gND2RSDNVmqt7
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:14:30
Thanks Erin!
OAA
02:15:36
If you are calling in by phone, I can’t see your name. If you are a member and need to get credit for this, email me at Oaaom.support@gmail.com with your name and email address
Michelle Hawkins
02:17:07
Can someone repeat for me what the Qing fei pai du tang is especially good for?
guohui Liu
02:17:53
huang qi, bai zhu, fang feng
Jeff Pufnock
02:18:11
Can you say a bit about the section of the Shang Han Lun that appears in the “Ancient Guilin Edition” that was added onto the original text that talks about Pestilential Qi and its attack on all Yang Channels at the same time? The section is rarely translated into English but seems valuable at this time.
Tanya Zhu
02:18:26
Qing Fei Pai Du Tang is the official formula used in China to treat CoVid-19.
Michelle Hawkins
02:18:58
Is it for particular symptoms or?
guohui Liu
02:19:31
xiao chai hu wan, sang ju yin, 8 pill, three times day
Kerry Dyer
02:19:42
8pills each?
Tanya Zhu
02:20:43
re:QFPDT: it's a cover-all for symptoms as they worsen, with lung phlegm in the body. they used it extensively in the hospitals for most patients. it wasn't a nuanced formula.
Greg Livingston
02:21:19
I understand Xiao Chai Hu Tang for prevention, but why combine with Sang Ju Yin?
Jeff Pufnock
02:22:08
Thank you!
Liane Owen
02:22:30
did you say to use dang shen with the hug xiang zheng qi san?
guohui Liu
02:23:09
sang ye, bo he, jie geng
Greg Livingston
02:23:41
But you want to vent as prevention?
Kevi Keenom
02:24:00
Greg, I think he said to further reach the orifices
dana lavoie
02:24:10
I’m interested to - is this infection causing a lot of lung yin xu?
guohui Liu
02:24:19
bai he gu jing tang
guohui Liu
02:25:17
shu di huang
Steven Foster-Wexler, LAc
02:26:37
Thank You!
dana lavoie
02:26:42
thank you so much!
Hana Lanin
02:26:51
thank you Dr. Liu!!
ellen goldsmith
02:26:51
Thank you Dr. Liu! This was so very helpful.
Yuqing Kou
02:26:53
Thank you!!
claudia voyles
02:27:03
Thank you so much. It was a joy, Dr. Liu to see and hear you again. Thank you for teaching.
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:27:04
substituation for Bei mu
Lisa Francesca Ferrari
02:27:04
Great discussion, thank you !
Cindy Anderson
02:27:04
A fantastic presentation, thank you!
Jon Conant
02:27:05
Thanks Dr. Liu, great to see you sir!
Ethan Depweg
02:27:06
great to hear your voice again. Thanks so much for this
Kimberly Dornan
02:27:13
Thank you very much Dr. Liu - very helpful and great to see you!
Kelly Duvendack
02:27:21
Thank you very much dr. Liu was amazing!
Kerry Dyer
02:27:26
thank you!!
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:27:27
Hard to get right now.
Sarah Frances Fan
02:27:29
I heard bei mu is not available from many herb suppliers
Kimberly Dornan
02:27:31
Thank you to OAA for putting this together.
Ting Jing-Craytor
02:27:40
Thanks so much Dr. Liu! Appreciate it!
Tanya Zhu
02:27:41
what about XiXin? any substitution?
Paul Messersmith-Glavin
02:27:49
Thank you so much!
Liane Owen
02:27:49
Thanks so much! Good to see you!
Regenia Benton
02:27:54
Amazing Teacher!!! Thanks
Tanya Zhu
02:27:54
thanks Dr. Liu!
Hana Lanin
02:27:57
say hi to your family ppl!
Carol
02:28:02
All good. Thanks for the great info.
TIMOTHY SUH
02:28:03
Thank you Dr. Liu!
Jennifer Bookout
02:28:28
so much food information. thank you so much!
Eric Strand
02:28:52
Dr. Liu... how is it you look EXACTLY the same today as you did in 1997? Please don't say "bitter herbs".
Deb Espesete
02:28:54
Thank you!! :)
Ed Gibbs
02:28:59
Thanks DR. Liu, OAA and every one for participating. Be well!
Mary Davis
02:28:59
thank you very much dr liu! so nice to see you!
Danielle Melanson
02:29:01
thank you !!!
Jonathan Ho
02:29:04
Thank you everyone.
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:29:05
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Ting Jing-Craytor
02:29:05
謝謝劉老師的講授,受益匪淺! 祝你身體健康! 快樂!平安!
Michelle Hawkins
02:29:08
Just like old times! thanks!
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:29:15
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Natasha Colburn
02:29:16
Love to see and hear you again, Dr. Liu!
Greg Livingston
02:29:31
刘老师非常感谢!都保重!
Felicity Woebkenberg
02:29:33
thank you Dr. Liu!
dana lavoie
02:29:40
thank you so much for hosting and organizing this!
Ting Jing-Craytor
02:29:47
Thanks OAA! Thanks Ross!
Kerry Dyer
02:29:49
yes come back soon Dr. Liu!
Michael Berletich
02:29:50
thanks Ross
Felicity Woebkenberg
02:29:51
and thanks Ross
Zoe Holman
02:29:55
Thank you!
Danielle Melanson
02:29:57
thanks Ross
Jenae Summerour
02:30:00
Thank You!!
Eric Stephens
02:30:00
Thank you to the board and Dr. Liu!
Tanya Zhu
02:30:01
thanks OAA and Ross!
Carol
02:30:03
Thanks Ross. Good job.
Hana Lanin
02:30:05
there are CEU's really?
Ellen Shefi
02:30:06
Thank you Ross and Dr. Liu!
Kelly Duvendack
02:30:08
This was very helpful an informative much appreciation to all hands on deck!
Kevi Keenom
02:30:12
Wonderful info, thank you Dr. Guohui Liu!
Emily Costello
02:30:14
Thank you for your time!
Liane Owen
02:30:14
true, Ross, thanks for all the OAA is doing for us all!
OAA - Ross McCallum, LAc
02:30:14
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dana lavoie
02:30:41
wonderful to see you again!!
Jeremy Jacks
02:31:08
Thank you!!
Sarah Wobig
02:31:09
Thank you!