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APPD Virtual Cafe for Fellowship Program Directors
Jaclyn Siegel
04:46
HI! Looking forward to this :) Thank you for preparing this
Jennifer Kesselheim
12:08
Im here!
Jennifer Kesselheim
12:12
im muted though
Sangeeta Krishna
19:09
will these slides be shared?
Claire Godsey
19:37
Do you want us to answer if we are not applying this year?
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
20:19
Yay! I’m excited to see some folks interested in developmental-behavioral pediatrics!
Virginia Long
20:47
Pediatric Infectious Diseases
Becky Blankenburg
21:03
Yes, the slides will be shared on the APPD Website.
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
21:48
PD here representing my resident applicants: GI, Heme Onc, PICU, and ID!
CCF Childrens
22:54
Pulmonary, heme onc, hospitalist and developmental-behavioural
Sara Aziz
23:49
will the recording be shared as well?
Becky Blankenburg
25:06
Yes, the recording and slides will be shared on the APPD website.
Daniel Goldenberg, OSF Pediatric
31:05
Do they see when the application was submitted and will that matter if they can?
Erika Cohen
31:40
ERAS says if you submit anytime before august 12th it will show up with an August 12th submission date, after that it will be time stamped in real time
Lindsey Daon
31:56
How does this timeline differ for PHM?
John Frohna
32:31
as a PD, I don’t have time in checking when applications are submitted.
Dinah Thibeault, Loyola Chicago
32:44
For PHM: http://phmfellows.org/phm-fellowship-application/
Sangeeta Krishna
32:53
it is the same- you will be notified of resolution of your application on Aug 12( PD, Cleveland Clinic)
Becky Blankenburg
34:51
@Lindsey, PHM is following the same timeline as other fellowships, even though they aren't yet through ERAS.
Brittany Siegel, Case Western/Rainbow Babies
35:01
Will we have opportunities to meet the residents?
Zobiya Momin
35:20
in terms of USMLE transcripts- if we’ve chosen the option to authorize the release by USMLE on eras, how long does that take to get uploaded once application is submitted? should we anticipate a delay and submit a few days before aug 12 if that would mark our apps as ‘incomplete?’
Becky Blankenburg
36:24
I would recommend uploading everything to ERAS at least 5 days ahead of the opening day (Aug 7) because it can take a few days to upload.
Amy Mackay - CHKD Norfolk, VA
37:55
will the results of the poll at the beginning be posted on APPD?
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
38:25
ERAS says it takes 1-2 business days to upload
Faizeen Zafar
38:47
is this presentation available to share later?
Becky Blankenburg
39:16
Yes, we can post the poll to APPD's site. And yes, the presentation and recording will be posted on the APPD website (under virtual cafes section).
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
42:00
If you have the option to turn off your self view, this is supposed to reduce the risk of "zoom fatigue" so you aren't distracted looking at yourself.
Sarah Mackey, University of Connecticut
46:32
How do I go about scheduling time to pump into the interview day?
John Frohna
48:01
I would recommend asking for time to pump when you set up your interview day. we can accommodate that if we know in advance what is needed.
Sarah Mackey, University of Connecticut
48:11
Thank you.
Najveen Alvi, WMC
49:49
With in person interviews, it may have been more easy to discuss research interests and set us up with attendings interested in that particular area. Would it be that flexible with virtual interviews or do you recommend reaching out in advance to the coordinators to express specific research interests ahead of time?
Tina Tan UCSF
49:54
is it permissible to arrange time to “shadow” the department clinically after interviews and before rank day to better inform your own decision (not necessarily affect their decision); almost in an anonymous way?
Amy Mackay - CHKD Norfolk, VA
52:29
Has there been any consideration of having fellowship programs rank applicants 2 weeks before the applicants rank programs to allow a period of time for second looks without influencing the rank list from the program and keep things fair?
Jennifer Kesselheim
54:16
Regarding clinical shadowing after interview day…I do not think 2nd looks or other such visits are being encouraged this year. I suspect programs will not be offering shadowing of that type for applicants, sadly.
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
55:14
Agree with Jennifer...many institutions are not allowing any visiting learners in any capacity so I am doubtful that 2nd looks or shadowing will be favored
Leena Kendhar (PHM)
56:15
are programs planning on interviewing internal candidates virtually also or inn person?
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
56:17
Many programs are doing completely virtual- including for their internal applicants- to promote equity
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
56:35
The recommendation nationally is for ALL interviews to be virtual
Jennifer Kesselheim
56:41
To clarify, all applicants, even internal ones, will still have virtual interviews.
Leena Kendhar (PHM)
57:28
thank you
John Frohna
57:39
as program directors, we also worry that we won’t get outside applicants if they have never been to our city. so we all fee anxious!
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
58:03
I second what John Frohna said!
Jaclyn Siegel, Case Western University/Rainbow Babies
58:18
now that our interviews are virtually, there is the option of recording the interviews for review later. Is this something we should be expecting?
Becky Blankenburg
58:26
The slides and recordings from today will be posted at: https://www.appd.org/meetings-education/virtual-cafes/fellowship-leadership/
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
59:03
I have no time to be looking at time stamps
HUMC Residents
59:09
Any recommendations on number of programs to apply to? Some are advising to apply to more/less programs since it is virtual.
Kristen Lancaster, UTSW
59:10
I second Jaclyn’s question - will they record our interviews to watch later/critique?
Kelsey Brown, EVMS CHKD
59:15
Do you think less/more interviews will be offered since things are virtual?
Jaron Smith - Phoenix Children's
59:37
I don’t think has been addressed yet. Any thoughts on restricting the number of programs applicants apply to? Seems like if there’s minimal cost and less time associated with scheduling interviews, applicants will apply to more and make the overall process “feel” more competitive.
Najveen Alvi, WMC
59:41
Do you think different parameters be used this year to filter applicants than traditionally- for example, different cut offs for board scores, research etc?
Kathryn Fitzwater - UC Davis
59:42
Would it be ok to reach out to current fellows prior to getting interviews from programs we may be especially interested in?
Erika Cohen
01:00:08
Should we worry that due to the lack of financial restriction with travel for interview that this will lead to a lot of applicants over applying to an increased number of programs, leaving PD’s with a shorter amount of time to review these applications and weeding people out based on certain criteria earlier than usual ?
Erin Gosekamp, Uni. of Rochester, peds chief
01:00:28
If applicants are able to apply to more institutions given the removal of the travel and monetary constraints, how are programs planning to balance a potential increased number of applicants with the holistic approach to applications?
chelsea allen,phoenix childrens resident
01:00:31
what about time zone differences? will that be accounted for in scheduling? sorry realized it doesn’t send automatically to the group
Gabo Castano
01:00:54
will more interviews be given? my thoughts is, maybe overall applicants may not cancel or apply to more as travel is not an issue now.
UCLA, Karen Carr and Nora Gibson
01:01:15
Echoing on questions regarding possible increase in number of programs applicants are applying to, do you advise your residents to apply to more programs
CCF Childrens
01:01:31
will a delay in step 3 scores due to covid negatively affect applicants?
Sara Aziz
01:01:49
what about for PHM fellowship which is a non-ERAS one? Program directors will have access to the applications as soon as they are submitted
Kathryn Peralta
01:02:12
Will there be any component to our presence on social media in the decision making process?
Sangeeta Krishna
01:03:15
@Sara - what is your Q?
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
01:03:41
I wouldn't think any program will look for social media presence as a factor unless it reflects poorly with regard to your professionalism
Sara Aziz
01:04:07
sorry I meant for PHM does the timing of when we submit our application matter since they can see the application right away as opposed to ERAS where nothing will be available until August 12
Hayley Gans, Stanford
01:04:19
Time zones considerations have been discussed and are part of the letter that goes to program directors.
Hayley Gans, Stanford
01:05:07
Other accommodations for specific breaks are fine to request.
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
01:05:39
Neo, ED, critical care are scared haha! I think it goes both ways- if you aren't serious about a program please don't apply. If programs aren't serious about a candidate please don't interview them
Sangeeta Krishna
01:05:52
@Sara- no it does matter. Earlier the better of course, but we understand this is a weird year all around.
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
01:05:54
I really wouldn't stress too much about when things get uploaded as long as it is there by the final deadline.
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
01:06:59
I've seen this rule of thumb recommended- 10 x the applicant/spot ratio. So for specialties with 1 candidate for every two spots, you may only need to do 5. If there are more applicants than spots you may need 10-15 interviews to be competitive
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
01:07:32
We are not planning to record interviews at Children’s Mercy
Beverley Robin - Rush University Medical Center
01:07:33
No one will have time to even look at them
Sangeeta Krishna
01:07:44
not planning to record at CCF PHM
Edem Timpo, Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr
01:08:00
For programs with rolling admissions outside of ERAS, is applying on about 8/12 the standard, or does this really depend on the individual program?
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
01:08:05
And the same goes for the applicant - interviews should not be recorded without permission from all parties
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
01:08:11
It is actually legal in many states to record without consent but huge red flag. No recording allowed at Nationwide/Ohio State
David Kling
01:08:26
How will different time zones be taken into consideration for interview days?
Sangeeta Krishna
01:09:02
AM and PM options for interview days
Stephanie Semchism-SUNY
01:09:03
If we have a question about LORs based on field, who should we address it to?
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
01:09:05
For time zones, I think it is “fair” to expect that the program may be able to sort of “meet in the middle” for those
John Frohna
01:09:23
if there is someone from your residency in a program, you can certainly reach out.
Claire Godsey
01:09:39
Are there resources/someone we can contact to help find institutions that are still doing away rotations for those who don't have the specialty at their home institution?
Nga Tang
01:10:19
For in person interviews, we'd have the opportunity to offer a better-formatted CV, personal statement (i.e. not ERAS format), etc. Are programs offering ways for us to upload these ahead of interview time?
Becky Blankenburg
01:10:20
@Stephanie, feel free to either ask LOR questions here -- or to the CoPS subspecialty reps
Sarah Nyp, Children's Mercy Kansas City
01:10:43
rotations are available for residents that would like to rotate with participation in telehealth visits - at this point
Debra Boyer- Peds Pulm Boston Children's
01:11:06
you could access the CoPS website. Pedsubs.org. go to the mentor section
CCF Childrens
01:11:46
Will there be any penalty for Step 3 scores not being released prior to August 12th given Prometric delays with testing dates?
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
01:12:07
@claire - I think you probably need to contact the program coordinators at the programs you have the most interest in and see what their institutional policy is for visiting residents...
Liz Bonachea Nationwide Neo PD/SFD
01:12:26
I can't see how any program would hold delays in Step 3 reporting against you
CCF Childrens
01:13:05
Thanks!
Brittany Siegel, Case Western/Rainbow Babies
01:13:18
Will we have the opportunity to meet/speak with the residents during the interview day?
Chris Wright - UT Dell Austin
01:13:24
Thank you all for your time!
John Frohna
01:13:32
@Nga, I just recycle those after an interview. I am not sure there is value to doing a separate Cv.
CCF Childrens
01:13:38
Great discussion. Thank you so much!!!!
s wright
01:13:40
Thank you!
Erika Cohen
01:13:41
Thank you !!!!!!
Jackie Fabricius - Duke
01:13:42
Thank you! You helped to dispel some fears for all of us I'm sure!
Jennifer Chuang, St. Joseph's, Paterson, NJ (APD)
01:13:43
Thank you for this informative session
Mitchell Moore, University of Texas At Austin
01:13:45
This was wonderful and helpful, thank you all
Ashley Bedner, UF Orlando (Arnold Palmer)
01:13:48
Thank you so much! This was very helpful and appreciated!
Becky Blankenburg
01:13:49
I think our big take home message -- it will be ok! The fellowship directors have been thinking carefully about how to make this the best possible for you!
Bri Shuler, Cincinnati Children's Hospital
01:13:49
In terms of ERAS applications, do applicants typically include activities and experiences from medical school or should we only include activities from residency?
Virginia Long
01:13:50
Thank you all for your time! This was a very informative session.
HUMC Residents
01:13:55
Thank you!
Ellen Wagner, U Chicago
01:13:55
Thank you very much!
Tonia Afshan
01:13:56
Thanks very much!
Kathryn Fitzwater - UC Davis
01:13:59
Thank you!! This was so helpful!
Sarah Mackey, University of Connecticut
01:14:02
Thank you!
Susana Collazo
01:14:03
Very helpful!
Valerie Schwartz
01:14:07
thank you so much for putting this together! Super helpful!
Dinah Thibeault, Loyola Chicago
01:14:07
Thank you so much for all this!
Amy Mackay - CHKD Norfolk, VA
01:14:08
Thanks!!!
Joshua Reyes, UVA
01:14:10
Thank you! This was very helpful!
Linah Omer-Texas texh uni Amarillo
01:14:14
thank you this was very helpful
Michelle Moore Padilla
01:14:14
Thank you all for this informative session !
Mia Pivirotto, Univ at Buffalo
01:14:15
Thank you so much! This was great!
Rhea Hans, Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
01:14:16
Thank you very much!!!
Lauren Thai- USA (AL)
01:14:17
Thank you so much!
Parvathy Krishnan/Icahn school of medicine MountSinai/Elmhurt,NY
01:14:17
Thank you!
Bruce Han
01:14:19
thank you for doing this!
Sarah Schlegel, Boston Combined Residency Program
01:14:19
Thank you!!
Hillary Liken-UNC
01:14:20
Thank you! This was very helpful!
Russ Wolters, Houston
01:14:25
Thank you!
Becky Blankenburg
01:14:26
The slides and recordings from today will be posted at: https://www.appd.org/meetings-education/virtual-cafes/fellowship-leadership/
Najveen Alvi, WMC
01:14:27
Thank you so much for this session. This was very helpful!
Allison Lure, University of Florida
01:14:28
Thank you!
Michael Coughlin, Tufts Floating Children's, Pulm
01:14:28
very helpful and much appreciated! thank you
Nga Tang
01:14:29
Thank you.
Laura Wingert- Akron Children's Hospital
01:14:34
Thanks to all!
Hasina Ashraf & Jessica Yom
01:14:36
Thank you
Daniel Goldenberg, OSF Pediatric
01:14:39
Thank you! this was extremely helpful. Have a great day
David Katibian
01:14:48
Thank you all. This was very helpful!!
Claire Godsey
01:14:49
Thank you for the help, will do! @Kris
Patrice Taylor
01:14:49
This was very informative. Thank you.
Margaret Bujarska
01:14:50
Great meeting! Thanks for the resources
Edem Timpo, Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr
01:14:53
Thank you for all of this information- it was very much appreciated!
Cecilia Gallego
01:14:55
Thank you for this very useful session!
Gowry Kulandaivel
01:14:59
Thank you, this was lovely and informative!
Jeremy Ruhlmann - UAB
01:15:05
Thank to every PD and panelist who answered the questions! Thank you for hosting this session.
Van Ma
01:15:09
Thank you!
April Park
01:15:55
Thank you for this virtual café! Lots of questions were answered and definitely helped a lot
Hershita Raheja - NJ
01:16:04
Thank you everyone! Very Helpful!
Kris Rooney - Lehigh Valley (PA)
01:16:09
Thank you so much everyone. Very helpful and the residents will be so happy to have this information.
Anita Chaphekar
01:16:12
Thank you all so much!!
Hassan Rizvi
01:16:13
thank you!
Julio Ramirez
01:16:14
thank you all for your time
Arooma Ismail
01:16:17
thank you !
Brittany Siegel, Case Western/Rainbow Babies
01:16:20
Absolutely wonderful! This was impactful!!
Claire Hailey
01:16:21
Thank you all very much!
Hannah Bahakel
01:16:22
Thank you!
Tonya Lemonious, Univ at Buffalo
01:16:24
tHANK YOU
Arooma Ismail
01:16:24
good luck everyone!