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Julie Bisland
25:40
Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Thursday, 30 January 2020 at 20:00 UTC.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
26:31
Lunar New Year
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
26:56
I get plenty of practice :-)
Julie Hedlund
27:18
Here’s the link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kUlmZH8nxWTgfcRluA5FxLheMm4XhhOwkRt7om52aQU/edit?usp=sharing
Annebeth Lange
28:39
Hello, I cannot hear anything
Annebeth Lange
29:09
There I got the sound
Julie Bisland
29:38
Thank you, Annebeth, welcome :)
Paul McGrady
31:19
@Jeff - will those two distinct categories be identified throughout the report?
Paul McGrady
32:56
Thanks Jeff!
Paul McGrady
33:39
I like Must /should
Elaine Pruis
34:51
apologies for being late
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
35:29
Welcome @Elaine
avri doria
35:51
With the should class, will there also be an example or type of a case that shows why it isn't a must?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
37:59
Examples (clear and effective ones) are a useful tool IMO
avri doria
40:39
thanks
Donna Austin, Neustar
45:23
ok
Martin Sutton
49:33
@Donna - it may work out worthwhile for them to go thru the pre-app process
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
50:22
I would think 1 time was in keeping with the original discussions we held in WT4
Donna Austin, Neustar
50:25
I agree Martin, but some may be late to the game and not have time for pre-approval.
Paul McGrady
52:46
@Jeff, we may want to create a third category: Must/should/might. ICANN ?might" want to grant price breaks for multiple applicants for the financial and background checks.
Justine Chew
54:38
The timing of when various evaluations are conducted also matter. As a side point, there was a suggestion that evaluation (background screening?) be conducted twice - once during application and second, prior contracting.
Justine Chew
56:26
Sure, just on timing of evaluations - financials change over time, perhaps technical may not.
Katrin Ohlmer
56:54
+1 Justine, esp. on financials
Maxim Alzoba
58:19
hello all, sorry for being late, calendar got borked
Paul McGrady
01:00:41
Freud!
Annebeth Lange
01:00:50
I agree
Maxim Alzoba
01:00:51
I hope to pass the sanity check this time :)
Justine Chew
01:03:06
+1 Jeff, on your point re "Application fees may differ for applicants" - it is somewhat confusing.
Emily Barabas
01:04:09
hand up
Maxim Alzoba
01:04:12
from time to time?
Emily Barabas
01:06:08
Ah, thanks for pointing that out Donna
Emily Barabas
01:06:11
that was not the intention
Martin Sutton
01:06:38
+1 Donna
Annebeth Lange
01:06:59
+1 Donna
Phil Buckingham
01:08:18
what ? so when is it adjusted ?
Phil Buckingham
01:08:32
exactly Paul
Maxim Alzoba
01:08:51
last time TMCH 5k usd were added on the top
Paul McGrady
01:09:26
Seems like this has to happen before applications submitted
Rubens Kuhl
01:09:33
The 5k TMCH added on top was later given back, exactly because it was part of the scope that based the original 185k.
Liz Brodzinski
01:09:48
+1 Paul
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:16
yes, but they were given back
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:19
later
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:22
5k
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:55
and they wew given back to registries, not necessary applicants :)
Rubens Kuhl
01:11:30
Maxim, that's true, but giving back to registries was what we could get from ICANN Org. We suggested going further.
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:11:51
It was only given back because ICANN org. agree it was double accounting.
Maxim Alzoba
01:12:05
cost recovery for the organization able to consume any amount... is troubled
Justine Chew
01:15:33
+1 Donna, or a diagram of some sort. Text is convoluted.
Martin Sutton
01:15:43
@Maxim - thankfully there are responsible folk that will monitor and provide their feedback in the process :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:15:56
Yes again clear examples are useful to prsent
Emily Barabas
01:18:30
hand up
Emily Barabas
01:18:48
Is this plan intended to be the administrative arrangements for where ICANN keeps the money?
Emily Barabas
01:18:53
Comment from Donna
Phil Buckingham
01:20:51
yes there is meant to be a separate extra segregated fund set up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:20:55
Exactly @Emily
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:21:14
'communicated in advance' is an important inclusion.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:21:37
clarity and predicabliity again is key along with transparency and Accountability of course!
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:22:50
Thanks Jeff and Emily
Justine Chew
01:25:09
This is where the example using figures or diagram would be super useful!
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:25:37
Wholeheartedly agree Justine
Phil Buckingham
01:26:28
+1 Justine
Annebeth Lange
01:26:40
+1 Justine
Phil Buckingham
01:29:09
it is a minefield ( from an accounting point of view ) ! . suggestion ICANN finance figure out the cost recalibration recovery !
Justine Chew
01:29:57
Perhaps tack "where possible" in respect of refunding excess fees?
Martin Sutton
01:31:13
We can park it but it will have future implications, particularly on a global basis
Robin Gross
01:33:02
+1 Justine
Martin Sutton
01:34:36
I like Donna’s suggestion re: global communication
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:34:47
Agreed
Annebeth Lange
01:36:06
Good idea from Donna on global communication. That might make it easier.
Justine Chew
01:36:15
I would like to think that the segregated fund is off limits to "loans to ICANN".
Paul McGrady
01:38:40
I would like a "must" here.
Justine Chew
01:39:50
So a recommendation instead of IG?
Annebeth Lange
01:39:56
+1 Justine
Justine Chew
01:40:00
@Paul?
Paul McGrady
01:41:01
Yes
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:41:15
Agree 'must'
Emily Barabas
01:41:22
We could also add an additional item
Emily Barabas
01:41:25
that is a recommendation
Robin Gross
01:41:28
Agreed
Justine Chew
01:41:30
+1 for recommendation
Phil Buckingham
01:41:31
yes agree
Emily Barabas
01:41:32
on top of the Implementation Guidance
Emily Barabas
01:42:06
Sorry, moved which item?
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:43:28
Forget my comment about %, I know it's near impossible to do.
Rubens Kuhl
01:44:33
Perhaps a value like USD 50k ?
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:44:51
The one variable that will remain unknown is number of applications.'
Rubens Kuhl
01:45:07
(Not that I'm fond for having a floor, but it seems that people like having that)
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:45:25
I'm not fond of it either Rubens.
Martin Sutton
01:47:34
A nominal value would be sensible, I think
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:48:13
personally I agree @Martin
Annebeth Lange
01:48:56
So do I
Martin Sutton
01:50:03
And for applicants, this is an asset, without even using it
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:50:03
time check
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:50:04
ok
Justine Chew
01:50:04
Yes, I support inclusion of para c.
Julie Bisland
01:50:25
NEXT CALL: Monday, 03 February 2020 at 15:00 UTC for 90 minutes.
Robin Gross
01:50:36
Good progress today.
Paul McGrady
01:50:45
Thanks Jeff!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:50:46
Thanks everyone Bye for now
Heather Forrest
01:50:47
Bye all, happy weekend
avri doria
01:50:52
thanks, bye
Katrin Ohlmer
01:50:58
thanks, bye