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Town Hall on COVID-19 and Doula Support - Shared screen with speaker view
Cassandra Newman
01:22
hello!
Cat LaPlante
01:27
HI everyone!
Jennifer Anderson
01:42
Hi Ladies
Stephanie Winter
01:43
hi!
Leah Dubin
01:45
Hello!
Carmen Valverde
01:49
Hello here from Kansas!
Jessica Custodio
01:54
Ok, thank you for doin this! Much appreciated!
Kathleen Rojas
02:03
Hi from Oakland Ca!!
Jennifer Anderson
02:27
Hey Lucy, leave me alone
Lisa Taylor
02:27
Hello from NYC (specifically, Astoria, Queens)!
Megan Mata
02:34
San Jose, Ca.
Jennifer Anderson
02:35
Sacramento
Cassandra Newman
02:36
Hello from Mississippi!
Liani Caban
02:37
Hello from Puerto Rico
Angela Christiano
02:37
Hello from Fresno, CA!
Jessica Custodio
02:39
Here from Monterey, CA
Leah Dubin
02:39
Mississippi!
Stephanie Wehby
02:42
Hello from Nicholasville, KY
Rebekah Preston
02:43
Hello from North Idaho
Michelle Haskell
02:43
Hey hey from Lansing, MI
Marissa Peterson
02:46
Hi from Savannah, GA!
Heather McCullough
02:51
Heather - CPM in Chicago!
Stephanie Winter
02:52
Hi from Duluth, Minnesota.
MJ Lynch
02:53
Connecticut
Leah Rhodes
03:01
hi from Staunton, VA!!
Angela Steele
03:03
SF East Bay
Cat Gomez
03:09
Sacramento
Courtney Caranguian
03:11
Oahu
MJ Lynch
03:12
hi!! apologies, multitasking for a few minutes
Shawna Whitten
03:55
Hi from Richland Washington State
Czarina Bowers
04:01
Hello! I’m in SF Bay Area in CA 💜 Thank you for doing this tonight!
Aja Clark
04:01
Hey Rebecca, how’s your day going?
Aja Clark
04:08
Joining from Northern VA
Tiffany Wyatt
04:10
Lafayette, Louisiana
Jessica Hayek
04:10
Troy NY!
Aja Clark
04:12
I’m good!
Czarina Bowers
04:13
hella surviving
Cat LaPlante
04:15
I’m surviving!!!
Vicki Bloom
04:15
Joining from the suburbs of NYC.
Rosa Vuojolaine
04:16
NYC sadly!
Leah Dubin
04:19
Surviving is accurate
Wendy Mackey-Kydd
04:21
HI . Its Wendy from Boston
Molly Deutschbein
04:24
Rochester, NY
Carlene Murnaghan
04:24
Amazing!
Marissa Peterson
04:29
Savannah, GA
Tiffany Grantom
04:33
Hi from Eugene Oregon.
Rigyrna Hodge
04:34
Hello from St.Maarten
Linda Petzold
04:34
Hi all- Joining in from Miami, Fl
Rocio Perez
04:36
Columbus Ga.
Tamara Niedermann
04:41
hi! tamara from orlando florida! definitely just surviving! a lot of emotional energy being spent.
giuditta tornetta
04:42
here no doulas allowed at births
Vicki Bloom
04:43
One day at a time, things are changing so rapidly.
Wendi Cleckner
04:54
Tempe, Arizona represent!
Emily Alexander
04:54
Joining from Gray, Maine
Jessica Custodio
04:59
Just trying to keep these kids safe and happy.
Czarina Bowers
04:59
I also miss the alone time!!
Brittany Irwin
05:02
Minneapolis, MN đź‘‹
Heidi Loeppky
05:05
Hi! Heidi from Vancouver, BC, Canada..... Thank goodness its sunny out or else I'd be going crazy!!
Michelle Haskell
05:08
Also an introvert going crazy because I need like 5 MINUTES of absolutely no human contact
Lisa Taylor
05:16
Yep, I’m hiding in my bedroom right now!
Denise Bolds
05:31
Hello From NYC!
Shawna Whitten
05:34
Me too, hiding in my bedroom
Lisa Taylor
05:38
Hey Denise!
Angela Steele
05:42
I get alone time because my kids are going back and forth between parents, but that has its own level of risk and anxiety for a mom
Jennifer D’Jamoos
05:45
hey there!
Marissa Peterson
05:50
YES. Luckily our extrovert headed back to the tugboat for a week!
Sarah Young
05:52
It's been a long day! Teachers aren't paid enough :)
Dayana Harrison
06:11
Hello from Okinawa, Japan
Denise Bolds
06:29
I LOVE my empty nest! He didn’t come back with the pandemic! ;) Working here and keeping busy!
Coleen Salazar
07:45
Hi everyone!
Chante Perryman
07:59
hey everyone
Courtney Caranguian
08:01
Insomnia for sure
Sarah-Grace Sweeney
08:02
major insomnia!!!!
Tamara Niedermann
08:03
yes! same!!
Cecily Sam Legg
08:04
I’m just worried about all the people who just don’t or can’t get it, and I feel like it’s my singlehanded duty to educate them. hahaha it’s Sam in western Massachusetts
Autumn Drury
08:04
hello
molly patterson
08:05
nope. I have a sound machine that has a cat purring
Chante Perryman
08:07
I get up everyday at 4am
Coleen Salazar
08:08
yes, I'm waking up REALLY early
giuditta tornetta
08:09
can't sleep well at all
Chante Perryman
08:12
and am up for hours
Jill Burke
08:12
hey hey from south NJ!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
08:16
my parents are terrified
Chante Perryman
08:24
glad I am not the only one with insomnia
MJ Lynch
08:24
I am loving sleep talk downs and sleep stories in YouTube at bedtime
Emily Alexander
08:25
2 am is my current bedtime
Heidi Loeppky
08:27
YES!!! the first time in my life I've had anxiety attacks!
Sarah Young
08:29
Yes insomnia, then I find an article on it in the middle of the night. I just read an article done on the projections for the UK and US
Lisa Taylor
08:33
I wish my parents were concerned as they’re definitely at risk
Lisa Taylor
08:54
And my dad is a total cowboy in his attitude
Vicki Bloom
08:55
I have an ear infection and it took 3 days for them to fill my meds because of current situation. So my insomnia was mostly pain. :(
Marissa Peterson
08:59
I keep waking up multiple times in the middle of the night.
giuditta tornetta
09:01
my brother is in Italy and I have been worried for weeks
Traci Weafer
09:17
my anxiety is through the roof
Lisa Taylor
09:31
Sorry to hear that, @Vicki Bloom! Glad you got them now.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
09:36
the local "mom groups" on FB are pretty intense. Lots of bickering about 'you should be staying home' and 'so disappointed to see so many people out today'.
molly patterson
09:45
I live with my 91 year old Mom who is on “lock down”. and I have a sister who challenged my family allegiance because I will need to go back to work for my day clients who essential essential services folks.
Jessica Custodio
09:51
Lots of information!!!!
MJ Lynch
10:09
I am actively in Quarantine at home on my care provider's orders as I am not eligible for testing and have been symptomatic. I may never know what I have. so weird. feeling better now, still stuck in bed and pretty useless
Traci Weafer
10:14
My 84 yo mom is watching the news too much and is calling me every hour
Emily Fontes
10:26
I’m here!
Tristen orosco
10:30
Thanks for hosting this!
Margaret Rodeghier
10:32
I am here! -Margaret
Juli Tilsner
10:34
Hello everyone!
Emily Le
10:35
I'm here too
Jennifer D’Jamoos
10:50
hey Margaret
molly patterson
10:56
I will have to step away for an hour to teach my EBB zoom call
Courtney Pollington
10:57
my 94 year old great grand father is still leaving his house daily
Katia LeMone
11:10
I am in a community where everything is mostly going on as usual. I feel like a visitor from the future shouting into the wind. Most folks here think I am overreacting by shutting down the birth center to general traffic. I am sheltering in place with my husband who is high risk.
Jennifer Anderson
11:13
My daughter is already on the malaria drug, Hydroxychloriquine for her Lupus. First time Ive been thankful she has Lupus
Traci Weafer
11:24
I think the older crowd think they have been through worse
Lisa Taylor
11:40
Yep, All panelists and attendees
Kimberly Zoltek
11:41
Hi hi
Margaret Rodeghier
11:41
all panelists and attendees
Sabrina Hernandez
11:41
hello everyone
P Fadwah Halaby
11:44
hi
Sami Atkinson
11:44
Hi
Jocelyn Haynes
11:48
hey everybody!!!
Margaret Rodeghier
11:48
hello
Lisette Centeno
11:48
hi
Dayana Harrison
11:48
My family is in Colombia, and everyone has been advised and asked to take a 20 days quarantine.
Kathleen Ordinario
11:49
Hi
Jenn Randall
11:59
Greetings everyone!
Autumn Drury
12:02
The problem is the button changes back after you say something so you have to do it each time.
Crystal Swanson
12:03
Hello from Colorado!
heather
12:03
Hi from sheltering in in Bay Area CA
JoLynne Polichette
12:04
hey everyone
Liz Taylor
12:06
Good evening everyone!
Lisa Taylor
12:22
yes
Scarlett Lynsky
12:23
Hi everyone :)
Margaret Rodeghier
12:24
yes
Heather Mae Marquis
12:24
I was hosting using zoom at 730 and it kept glitching. I think there is a lot of people using the site these days
Jennifer D’Jamoos
12:25
i can hear you
Erin Fraser
12:25
hi from Albuquerque
Christi Stoltzfus
12:28
Hello from Lancaster, PA!
Kim Nicholson
12:28
Hello Everyone!
Coleen Salazar
12:29
yes
Kara Rainsford
12:41
Hi from San Francisco CA! :-)
Lorie McCoy
12:44
Hi from South Florida.
Mary Hanks
12:45
Mary from Metro Atlanta
Marnellie Bishop
12:53
Hello from Portland, OR
Mandy Irby
13:02
Hi guys!! What amazing panelists! Hi from Virginia
Juli Tilsner
13:04
Hi from Portland!
Annelise Lipsey
13:09
Hi from Jacksonville, FL!
KariAnne Loy
13:10
Hello From Portland Oregon
Sarah Young
13:12
Hi from Omaha, NE!
Kim Nicholson
13:21
Hi from San Diego
Shannon Dykes
13:23
Hi from Wyoming
Jenn Rumbach
13:31
Hi from NYC!
Emily Stallings
13:35
Hi from Columbus, OH
Shelby Broaddus
13:36
Hi. From Las Vegas, NV. We began a 30 day quarantine 2 days ago.
P Fadwah Halaby
13:36
hello from Palm Beach County FL!
Bronwyn Sheppard
13:39
Hi from Boston
Margaret Rodeghier
13:39
hi from MI
Hannah Pratt
13:42
hi from the twin cities!
Kallyn Boerner
13:45
Hello from Durham, NC!
Dwan Katz
13:46
hi from AZ
Sabrina Hernandez
13:48
hello from Riverside California
Elyse Schroeder
13:48
Hi from Oakland :)
heather
13:49
How can we encourage hospitals to allow doulas?
Adair McDonald
13:51
Adair from South Bend, IN xoxox
Jocelyn Albertson
13:51
Hi from South of Boston!
Emily Le
13:51
Also from Las Vegas, NV
Justine Leach
13:52
Hi From Boston MA
Emily Fontes
13:52
use the Q&A feature
Bekah Bischoff
13:53
Hi It's Bekah from Louisville, KY! :)
Camilla Rae
13:59
From Portland, Oregon!
Carmen Herlihy
14:09
Hi from Carmen Herlihy in San Francisco
Lauren Olson Sidford
14:30
Hi from the North Shore in Massachusetts- thank you for doing this!
Abigail Hagar
14:38
Hi Dee Sacramento, CA
Olivia Courser
14:49
Walla Walla, WA checking it!
Nicky Pariser
14:56
Nicky Pariser, from San Francisco
Joyce Dykema
15:04
Lincoln, NE checking in, hi Cristen!
Porsche Holland
15:27
Good evening Philly in the house!
Chante Perryman
15:27
Hi AMY!!!!
Melanie Ellison
15:29
SW Colorado here
Jennifer Ballew
16:14
This is so great! Thank you! Such a great tool for communication
Evelyn Page
16:20
Looking forward to hearing from everyone tonight. Tuning in from Long Island, NY
Amy Haderer
16:21
Hey! Amy Haderer from [M]otherboard Birth here :)
molly patterson
16:42
Over here in Lane county Oregon
Mandy Irby
16:44
Hey Amy!
Madonna Nichols
16:47
Jody Robinson from St. Vincent's Hospital in Birmingham, AL
Margaret Rodeghier
17:04
I just want to say a big thank you to Margaret for the work in Michigan. amazing!
Caitlin Clarke
17:05
Thanks for doing this!
Claire Brisendine
17:41
Thank you!!! Will the recording of this and the spreadsheet be emailed out? I have to hop on another meeting before this ends :(
Traci Weafer
17:47
thank you Margaret for all you're doing!!
Cat LaPlante
18:16
And we have a ton of online support for expecting couple now!
Angela Steele
18:23
They are scared
Crystal Swanson
18:27
they are panicking
Meagan Thompson
18:28
Anxiety. Fear.
Heather Charmatz
18:30
No hospitals in SF are “allowing” doulas. Only the birth center
Arrin Blount
18:32
scared, hysteric
Marissa Peterson
18:32
Clients are restricted to 1-2 people, doulas included. I got sent home today
Chante Perryman
18:33
HI AMY!
Miracle Balsitis
18:33
Wanting to change birth locations
Coleen Salazar
18:34
they are being put off work early
Jennifer D’Jamoos
18:34
people dismissing care providers due to hospital policies
Amy Haderer
18:36
Honestly, it’s been some silver lining… We have people clamoring for [M]otherboard’s Educator Portal
Bronwyn Sheppard
18:36
trying to find the positive
Jessica Cumley
18:37
Only one visitor, upset about no doulas
Amy Moy
18:37
Current client planning to birth at a freestanding birth center is super anxious about a transfer.
Angela Christiano
18:38
anxiety
Tamara Niedermann
18:39
i have a client right now who haven’t been able to get their parents to watch their kids.
Julie Fors
18:39
Anxious and scared about being left alone to birth.
Marnellie Bishop
18:39
My clients are concerned about not being able to have doula support in the hospital
Madonna Nichols
18:40
Worried that our patient's won't have the support they want for their birth
Justine Leach
18:41
I support trauma survivors giving birth - there is a lot of anxiety and distress in this population
Melanie Ellison
18:41
hospital here in SW Colorado has limited support people for women in labor to 1 person. Many clients switching to home birth.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
18:41
switching to homebirth
Lindsey Bartell
18:42
Anxiety. Fear. Devastation to the core.
Stephanie Lemke
18:42
feeling like birth plan is out the window
Tristen orosco
18:44
overwhelmed
Sarah-Grace Sweeney
18:44
last minute home birth questions
Elizabeth Addeo
18:45
had my first “ birth” this day.....
Margaret Rodeghier
18:45
I have a client
Shelby Broaddus
18:45
Uncertainty
Sami Atkinson
18:45
doulas not being allowed unless DONA certified
Laura Holman
18:46
anxiety, fear of the unknown,
Joyce Dykema
18:46
Mix of anxiety and denial
Shawna Mertens
18:47
Lots of uncertainty, blindsided by poor communication from care providers
Evelyn Page
18:48
Huge anxiety and fears that they will have to deliver their babies alone in a hospital
Emily Stallings
18:49
Friend ended up scheduling an induction because she wasn’t sure what visitor/doula policies may be
Miracle Balsitis
18:50
Doulas not allowed in San Francisco
Jocelyn Haynes
18:50
doulas are still allowed where I am! north indiana
Autumn Drury
18:50
scared or not taking it seriously...all the things
Mary Hanks
18:51
Lots of anxiety! A few clients now looking at homebirth options
Jill Burke
18:52
I'm getting many requests from people wanting to freebirth. which I'm ok with, but I don't want to be overwhelmed either.
Stuart Fischbein
18:52
No one sick. Everyone nervous
Jennifer Anderson
18:54
More fear about my not being allowed to attend the hospital birth vs. the disease it’self
Jenn Rumbach
18:54
Wanting to switch to homebirth but not enough midwives
Adair McDonald
18:55
Husband works at hospital and they haven’t closed his department yet, which is negligent
Scarlett Lynsky
18:58
I’m in Portland, Oregon and hospitals just went to one support person. The parents are really uncertain and I’m of course worried about my livelihood too.
Heidi Loeppky
18:58
The gas and oxygen in our hospitals have been shut off so our labouring moms are stressed about pain management.
Julie Thompson
18:59
Doulas not allowed to attend unless the client chooses you as their one person.
Melanie Wachsman
19:00
Current birth clients are super upset!
Rosanne Gephart
19:00
women being forced to choose their their husband or their doula!
Margaret Rodeghier
19:01
lots of anxiety
Anna Forsberg
19:01
pressure to induce early by OBs
Imani Spencer
19:03
Many women wanting Home Birth
MJ Lynch
19:03
some cancellations for my Hospital doula fif
Vicki Bloom
19:07
NYC Gov just put out an advisory for zero visitors in hospital even L&D.
Laura Holman
19:07
some pregnant mamas have been told that if they test +, baby will be taken away and put in quarantine from mom.
Angela Steele
19:08
I’m worried about cancellations and losing income!
Nicky Pariser
19:10
My daytime postpartum clients and I have have decided to postpone care. They are very anxious. I’ve been providing emotional support via text
Coleen Salazar
19:10
2 clients exploring home birth
Marissa Peterson
19:15
Choosing between partner and doula
Amy Haderer
19:18
I’ve been honestly really impressed by everyone’s ability to adapt and innovate. Restriction breeds creativity!!!
Melissa Cook
19:18
It’s painful to see the fear in my clients eyes when they had planned for such a joyous time.
Shawna Whitten
19:19
Current birth clients are anxious.
Selena Green
19:19
Getting lots of inquiries for homebirth.
Imani Spencer
19:20
More conversation on Unassisted Birth
Scarlett Lynsky
19:21
My daughter is graduating this year and might not get a graduation ceremony. :(
Kim Collins
19:22
worried I won’t be permitted to attend births and also worried that I will be permitted...
Brianna Torres
19:22
John Muir hospital is only allowing one person per birthing person
Leah Dubin
19:23
My clients are all pretty anxious, visitors are now limited to 1 at all local hospitals as of today.
Angela Steele
19:23
clients being offered early inductions
Courtney Pollington
19:25
I have 1 worried because shes being screened for pre-e in first pregnancy..
Christy Treffinger
19:25
1 visitor policy and possible no visitor policy coming. that would include the dad as well
Jennifer Ballew
19:25
Big shift point here!
Elizabeth Addeo
19:27
left her house when she left for the hospital. broke my heart in two.
Julie Thompson
19:27
2 clients are looking into home birth
Jenn Rumbach
19:28
Clients being told they will not get consistent prenatal care in NYC
Marnellie Bishop
19:28
Postpartum clients are concerned about getting postpartum support
Margaret Rodeghier
19:29
one client with home birth another with hospital birth
Mary Norby
19:29
I’m in the Twin Cities of MN and hospitals are not allowing doulas—some are considering us “visitors” which some doulas find offensive.
P Fadwah Halaby
19:30
uncertainties, doula and MW not allowed to accompany client into hospital with home birth transfer
Shelby Broaddus
19:33
Declining virtual doula support because it is not the same as physical. Hospital birthers planing a “back up” plan for home or unassisted.
Emily Alexander
19:36
We're enjoying our time. We are a homeschool family, so we are used to being together 24/7. But I'm heartbroken for all the families reaching out to me. They are terrified to deliver at the hospital.
Annelise Lipsey
19:36
Currently hospitals are not set about whether to consider doulas as part of the care team or a "visitor"
Hillary Melchiors
19:39
I have to hop off and hope that we can have a recording of this later. Thanks so much for hosting this!
Joyce Dykema
19:39
Yes, I had someone reach out for a third party asking about unassisted birth.
Cassandra Newman
19:43
I feel like my clients are keeping calm as they prepared, but they are staying busy working from home
Kymm Ann Wallin
19:47
Women are worried about their home birth midwives getting sick and not being able to serve them.
Marnellie Bishop
19:50
Moving postpartum to virtual
Elisa Havens-Stokes
20:07
postpartum clients canceling birth clients switching to home birth but not enough midwives
Vicki Bloom
20:19
I had a client push breech C-section up earlier because of worry would not be accessible a week from now.
Mary Norby
20:50
I have a family in early birth, and I plan to join them at home, but I will not be allowed to join them at the hospital.
Melissa Cook
21:17
This really calls out the need for more home birth midwives
Angela Christiano
22:39
agree with Melissa need for more homebirth midwives!
Margaret Rodeghier
26:33
I’m a volunteer doula. Does anyone know of resources for low income families in Michigan?
Amy Haderer
26:34
My entire family had H1N1 when I was 7 weeks pregnant with my 3rd… that was fun. But I never got sick!
molly patterson
26:38
I have an EBB Childbirth Class Couple in WA who are now looking at homebirth.
Shannon Dykes
27:18
will this document be available on EBB websight
jamii midwife
27:51
what about the newborn that has it in london? do we know how they got it?
Emily Fontes
28:54
yes you are muted Kimberly
Margaret Rodeghier
30:51
RCOG is the Royal College of Obestetrics and Gynecology - Margaret
Margaret Rodeghier
31:08
The UK version of ACOG.
Roe Marabella
31:18
can this document be available for download?
Melanie Ellison
31:29
https://evidencebasedbirth.com/covid19/
Cassandra Newman
31:37
Roe -- most of this is on the EBB webisite
Roe Marabella
31:57
thank you
Cassandra Newman
31:58
https://evidencebasedbirth.com/covid19/
Amy Moy
32:52
Can’t thank you enough, Rebecca, for keeping us up to date on the research!
Dayana Harrison
33:46
Thank you Rebecca for all your hard work!! Thank you for advocating for evidence based care at all times!
Coleen Salazar
34:10
I heard a hospital in S.F., CA is out of N95 masks NOW.
Imani Spencer
34:16
“This really calls out the need for more home birth midwives” Agreed, Melissa
Megan Mata
34:49
This weekend SF is hiring nurses on the spot due to understaffing.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
35:00
hello freestanding birth centers
Julie Fors
35:00
Birth centers!
Amy Haderer
35:10
For real.. my ex is a nurse and he tried to tell me “they’re screening so my risk of exposure is 0” which is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
Jennifer Ballew
35:19
so helpful! thank you!
Coleen Salazar
35:21
Birth centers are a real option!
Dalia Abrams
35:21
We have many hospitals in Birmingham, but none of them wants to be "the covid-29 hospital"
Cecily Sam Legg
35:25
just tell acog that the best way to conserve healthcare resources is to keep mother and baby together!
Sarah Young
35:30
They need to have people not go through the ER to get to L&D in the middle of the night
Tamara Niedermann
35:36
and they have to walk through the er to get to the labor and delivery floors after 8pm.
Olivia Courser
35:39
We only have 1 hospital so that wouldn't be an option in more rural areas.
Marnellie Bishop
35:40
Oregon is looking to setup an offsite COVID-19 testing and treatment site in Salem
Jennifer Anderson
35:44
I wondered about that with the ships moving in off of NY and SF. Would they be healthy people hospitals, or covid hospitals? They should be utilized as one or the other. Not both
Cat LaPlante
36:04
Evidencebasedbirth.com/covid19
molly patterson
36:12
good to know Marnellie about oregon
P Fadwah Halaby
36:13
I crafted a letter to the local OBs offering to help w my out of hospital birth expertise, trying to figure out how to get it into their hands!
Margaret Rodeghier
36:36
Can you explain why ACOG said there was no more risk, and then a few days later said there was more risk?
Dalia Abrams
36:54
Lots higher proportion of pregnant people in USA vs. china and Italy I would think.
Jennifer Anderson
38:05
WOW
Dana Patterson
38:07
Our area has drive up COVID-19 testing so people don’t have to go to the hospital unless they are truly sick.
Lisa Taylor
38:13
That seems so bogus, there’s no way they could keep the babies that long in this situation.
Bridget McGann
38:15
Placenta encapsulation will depend a lot on sanitary practices in the prep enviroment
MJ Lynch
38:53
so, many local hospitals here are req discharge after 12 hours... how does that impact observations?
Dalia Abrams
39:02
Here's a new article from J Peds saying babies DO get sick and some very sick. And there are not as many children in China. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf?fbclid=IwAR192KmEgRTGA0p8-Qplzcu3E7cJrHZi7xasavkIpbK21vTpaPXKkIuFS1A
Traci Weafer
39:14
and traumatizing
Emily Stallings
39:30
It seems most practitioners follow their profession’s leading organization because it’s support in the case of lawsuits
Traci Weafer
39:41
and traumatizing
Emily Stallings
39:43
They may also, of course, agree with the rec
Joyce Dykema
40:03
They're not going to have enough rooms.
Efe Osaren
40:10
In NYC ppl are receiving mixed messages about Doulas attending births physically and cancling contracts/asking for refunds. It would be really great if we had same language about how to move forward for clients that are due in march and apri
Shelby Broaddus
40:22
I look forward to viewing the remainder of this webinar. I have to join into another meeting. Thank you for holding this!
Lisa Taylor
40:26
yay for bringing up mother’s wishes
Rosie Peterson
40:49
my son’s friend was told by their San Diego OBGYN that she more susceptible in 3rd trimester and that she and baby would die. where should I send them? Besides to a local midwife?!
Joyce Dykema
41:00
I know some mothers will also want to be separated. Maternal choice matters!
Allison Tate
41:00
I noticed that statement about mothers wishes and was like yes there’s the way in!! 🙌🏻
Mary Norby
41:08
Good idea to print out CDC guidelines and bring them to your birth!
Tekara Gainey
41:10
Do you have any evidence on at-term induction as a protection against transferring COVID19?
Tekara Gainey
42:00
A few hospitals have been urging birthers to induce at 39 weeks
Melanie Wachsman
42:00
What is a birthing mothers rights with regards to labor support?
Vicki Bloom
42:31
In NYC home birth midwives can’t handle the swarm of people wanting to change.
MJ Lynch
42:56
connects to the EBB Normalizing Homebirth Transfers seminar !!!
Marissa Peterson
43:07
We only have 1 homebirth midwife in Savannah, GA area. We aren't prepared for this.
Melanie Ellison
43:13
or at least encourage women to order urinalysis pregnancy test strips on Amazon and take their own BP at home
Jennifer D’Jamoos
43:14
I've seen articles on DIY prenatal
Cassandra Newman
43:28
Yes, we don't have telehealth in MS really & only a few midwives! some of my clients appts have been cancelled for 3 weeks min
Heidi Loeppky
43:44
yres
Emma Mas
43:45
thats not true, we have home births still in bc
Carlene Murnaghan
43:48
Canada has not suspended home birth
Heidi Loeppky
44:05
Im in Vancouver BC, and my clients are going for home births
MJ Lynch
44:11
Canada has various laws by province, is it across the board there?
Shawna Lodge
44:14
yes please touch on the mothers rights in regards to labor support?
Jennifer D’Jamoos
44:15
does it maybe vary by province?
Carlene Murnaghan
44:15
Unless this JUST happened, and nobody knows. I just attended a home birth.
Carlene Murnaghan
44:22
(I am in Alberta)
Sarah Young
44:39
Nebraska is hostile to homebirth. Transfer of care to a homebirth midwife isn't possible due to the limited number of underground midwives
Jennifer D’Jamoos
44:44
are you kidding me?
Denise Bolds
44:47
WHAT!?!?!?
Tamara Niedermann
44:48
let’s be clear with our language. it isn’t illegal to have a homeburvth anywhere. it may be illegal for a provider to attend. that isn’t the same thing.
Bekah Bischoff
44:52
OMG!
Madonna Nichols
44:59
That doesn't represent all OB attitudes
Dawn Herring
45:00
WOW - well there you have it :/
MJ Lynch
45:02
wow... time for evidence!!!
Dalia Abrams
45:09
Maybe that OB is doing prenatal care that is useless...
Joyce Dykema
45:20
Yikes!
Shannon Dykes
45:28
I;m on the boarder of WY and NE and women are coming from NE to our birth center in WY
Allison Tate
45:33
or we hand the wisdom of prenatal care back to birthing people 🤷🏼‍♀️
Courtney Pollington
45:37
all non urgent prenatal care appointments have been canceled.. even ultrasounds
Jennifer D’Jamoos
45:49
yay for autonomy/parental rights
Dalia Abrams
46:07
Rebecca what is your opinion about inductions to have baby before the hospital gets over run?
Rita Ledbetter
46:34
ideally all Doula’s should have C-19 testing and deemed to be safe to attend. CNM here on a Covid taskforce Group
Kim Nicholson
46:41
Thanks for all you do Rebecca, the research is great to know!
Vicki Bloom
46:53
@Dalia Abrams I had a client push her C-section for breech earlier because of fear hospital will get worse.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
47:10
thanks Rebecca!
Emily Encinosa
47:16
Thank you so much Rebecca!
Olivia Courser
47:54
Even if we wanted to, C-19 test is not available as an option in my area.
Scarlett Lynsky
48:53
I think even homebirth midwives in Portland OR are switching *some* prenatal visits to telehealth visits.
Melanie Ellison
49:24
YES!
Heather Felder
49:26
Yes!! thank you, Emily!
Britt Sando
49:27
We have a doula friendly hospital here, and they have just decided to ban tubs for labor and birth (lots of water births there) and no nitrous- but I think its because the staff is scared! They don’t have supplies for self protection. Its giving me a real pause about how safe an extra person (ie: doula) would feel to the people who HAVE to be there. How do you deem anyone safe to attend @Rita Ledbetter? I really feel for our nurses. It feels very much like nobody is safe, and they have no PPE.
Melanie Ellison
50:17
Thank you so much for the virtual video!
Emily Stallings
51:01
Some facilities are stopping nitrous because it can aerosolize viruses. That means if someone have COVID-19 and received nitrous their virus could potentially transmit via air
Crystal Swanson
51:08
Yes! I already offer virtual doula services. It has reduced my clients' stress as well.
Joyce Dykema
51:26
Agreed Britt - me coming in is one more person they may fear exposes them, and one more person they may fear caring for later.
Amanda Jaramillo
51:29
My clients have not been receptive to virtual support in labor. They are feeling like the are being cheated. Many have declined virtual support.
Heather Mae Marquis
52:56
Zoom is really great, Doxy.me is HIPPA compliant and doesn't require the client to create an account, but has the same benefits of Zoom. Doxy is free
Katia LeMone
53:06
We closed our midwifery clinic starting last Monday to anyone due after May 1st. We do all our appointments by zoom, unless they present with an issue where they need to be seen.
Vicki Bloom
53:10
Or if client and personal support people live different places.
Lisa Taylor
53:36
Love calendly, use it for scheduling my private birth sessions and podcast interviews
Lisa Taylor
53:43
beautiful integration with Zoom
Chante Perryman
54:34
Stephanie, zoom has a hippa complient portion you can pay extra for
Britt Sando
54:40
Good info about HIPPA with doxy.
Margaret Rodeghier
54:49
HIPAA requirements have relaxed to allow more telehealth options for providers like us
Joyce Dykema
55:26
Ooh, love that, one page not in navigation for online booking, thank you!
Jennifer Anderson
55:55
If you’ve created your website on Squarespace, it also created Acuity and works seemlessly with that app for online scheduling.
Crystal Swanson
56:01
all of my "interviews" are already phone or video only.
Joyce Dykema
56:39
All I miss in virtual prenatals is helping demonstrate double hip squeeze, and hugs!
Cat LaPlante
57:02
Use a pelvis. Not the same but they get it!
Joyce Dykema
57:24
Thanks Cat!
Anna Forsberg
57:27
zoom hack you can book two 40 min meetings back to back if you need to
Cat Gomez
57:45
With the free Zoom can you share and watch videos/power point or pics like you are doing now with sharing the page on your computer
Katia LeMone
58:40
link for chante’s talk????
Melanie Ellison
58:41
doulas who are going virtual during birth itself, are you refunding part of the clients’ money?
Jennifer Anderson
58:51
Thanks Emily. Gonna totally check out your longer video on FB
Jessica Custodio
58:52
I missed the 4th tip?
Lisa Taylor
59:02
webinar is $40 on top of $15
Carlene Murnaghan
59:02
No (refunds)
Lisa Taylor
59:07
per month, that is
Chante Perryman
59:21
I also did a call on offering virtual doula support - bit.ly/VirtualDoulaSupport
Efe Osaren
59:33
No refunds. This is a pandemic
Renee Pizzuto
59:35
@annaforesberg, how do you do that?
Jennifer Anderson
59:44
Acuity works with Zoom Too. My clients book right into Zoom on my website.
Sarah Burns
01:00:00
Can acuity be linked to zoom or any other format?
Lindsey Daniels
01:00:02
Can you paste the link for the 2 hour video for BLOOM BIRTH SERVICES? I can't find it on your FB page.
RaynForest Davìs
01:00:43
Can you provide the link to bloom birth services.
Heather McCullough
01:00:44
Hi Chante! Thew bit.ly sent us to just sign up for your email address :)
Jennifer Anderson
01:00:47
Yes, Acuity works with Zoom. And it works really well with Squarespace. I had Calendly first and I liked it, But SS made it easier to use Acuity than Calendly. They play better together
Cat LaPlante
01:01:04
Thanks @ Jennifer Anderson :)
Lindsey Daniels
01:01:06
I use Healthie which is HIPAA compliant and Zoom is included
Britt Sando
01:01:11
thanks jennifer
Roe Marabella
01:01:32
why not just use face time or skype?
Rachel Brown
01:01:33
can someone link and/or screenshot where Rebecca from EBB mentioned CDC and mother’s wishes regarding separation of mom who is + and baby?
Chante Perryman
01:01:34
Yes! Sign up! Zoom is acting slow on processing the recording. I will send it out as soon as possible
Dalia Abrams
01:01:37
FYI Doxy.me is used for counseling, free, HIPPA compliant
Jennifer Anderson
01:01:37
OH! Does setting up a password make Zoom “HIPAA Compliant?”
Lindsey Daniels
01:01:51
Thank you Cristen!
Caitlin Clarke
01:01:56
Can you share that link about the suspension of HIPAA ?
Emily Fontes
01:01:57
https://www.facebook.com/bloombirthpros/posts/2477615685672021
Laura Burrows
01:02:22
https://vimeo.com/397845325?fbclid=IwAR2YsB3YHyUwwVlPnhHMycc6PY09sKm43ETyklbmcglxmSd9SMKwba83Ak4
Tanya Tringali
01:02:26
any advice on understanding the logistics of actually getting paid given the changes to the law?
Laura Burrows
01:03:01
vimeo link is directly to “birth professionals go virtual”
Scarlett Lynsky
01:03:40
I have the pricing question too.
Melanie Ellison
01:04:00
so what does virtual doula service look like? FaceTime video the entire labor or just contact as needed??
Melanie Wachsman
01:04:07
Why not use FaceTime or Skype?
Kirsten Dudley
01:04:25
Or google hangout?
Elyse Schroeder
01:04:57
Zoom has the whiteboard option which is SO helpful when explaining things when not being in person with clients
Brianna Torres
01:05:17
if you are starting your business, should you state that going forward all your business will be virtual?
Vicki Bloom
01:05:17
I’ve even had clients request WhatsApp (you can tell I have younger clients :) )
Traci Weafer
01:05:41
marco polo is good for checking in
Rebecca Dekker
01:05:43
I have to sign off everyone… stay safe!
Tanya Tringali
01:05:49
apologies, I should have specified that I’m a CNM.
Katia LeMone
01:06:10
Whatsapp is awesome and used with everyone here in mexico
Allison Tate
01:06:12
thank you Rebecca
Juli Tilsner
01:06:26
It’s Juli from Cornerstone, Thank you too much I have to sign off now . Take care EVERYONE!
Tamara Niedermann
01:06:33
emergency bypass on iphones is a godsend if you have one.
Shawna Whitten
01:06:45
thank you Rebecca
Traci Weafer
01:06:51
yes emergency bypass!!!
Efe Osaren
01:07:00
Homes or hospitals
Hannah Pratt
01:07:24
yes emergency bypass is the best!
Efe Osaren
01:07:29
attending the labor isn't risky?
Melanie Wachsman
01:07:31
But postpartum and lactation support is one on one?
Heather McCullough
01:07:47
I do plan to support them at home to help them arrive to the hospital as late as they can to reduce their exposure
Dayana Harrison
01:08:03
I definitely need a lot help transitioning into the online virtual aspect
Melanie Ellison
01:08:08
I’ve done some lactation counseling via video chat. It still works if partner holds the camera so I can see latch.
Anastasia Anastasia
01:08:13
Efe - it is risky but there is risk at the store or the car wash
Emily Stallings
01:08:16
HHS in the US has said they’re waiving HIPAA penalties for “good faith” use of telehealth during this crisis. This waiver may not continue indefinitely. Not sure if FaceTime, etc. are HIPAA compliant.
Anastasia Anastasia
01:08:27
I am switching to virtual appointments for prenatal
Elyse Schroeder
01:08:32
They’re starting to minimize students here in the bay area
Efe Osaren
01:08:50
That is not anywhere near a good correlation lol
Juli Tilsner
01:08:58
UHSU Suspended all students last week. Nickie is doing rest of her nursing year online
Paula Richards
01:08:58
In my city - students are banned in all but one hospital
Renee Pizzuto
01:09:03
great points!
Melanie Wachsman
01:09:06
But they still will not let us in
Joyce Dykema
01:09:07
I have been taking our temperatures twice a day. Limiting exposure to other people. All virtual meetings. I want to feel confident that I am not putting my nurse, midwife, and physician colleagues at risk, as well as my clients!
Jenn Randall
01:09:25
Emergency by-pass, coupled with client specific ring tones has worked wonderfully for me!
Joyce Dykema
01:09:57
Agreed!
Caitlin Clarke
01:09:58
Not just hospital workers. Lots of chiros, Acus and MFT are also doulas.
Sarah Young
01:09:59
I am curious who has already gone to only virtual support.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:10:10
masks during labor?
Joyce Dykema
01:10:39
I will not take a mask from medical staff.
Jennifer Anderson
01:10:43
Diarrhea has actually been identified as a precursor symptom too. In china, those with SOB and diarrhea where far more sick than those that presented with fever.
Jennifer Anderson
01:10:45
New toda
Coleen Salazar
01:10:48
I'm a doula and an IBCLC. I like zoom ALOT
Dalia Abrams
01:10:49
Are you going to test the doula when she walks into the hospital?
Madonna Nichols
01:11:11
Even if you tested the doula, the results wouldn't be back for 2-3 days
Joyce Dykema
01:11:12
Yes, lack of testing is a huge problem.
Sabine Omvik
01:11:18
I’ve hard masks may not necessarily prevent the spread. Being tested is just the best.
Saralyn MacPhee
01:11:22
many hospitals are checking temps of everyone, including staff upon entry
Anastasia Anastasia
01:11:23
We can purchase n95 masks online still, I plan to take my own mask and gloves to the hospital
Sarah Young
01:11:24
If you are going into hospitals, are doulas planning to quarantine after voluntarily
Dana Patterson
01:11:32
I would be open to be tested before I joined my client. The swab can be back in 1-2 hours.
KariAnne Loy
01:11:35
Would the hospital provide doulas with masks and or gloves?
Anastasia Anastasia
01:11:39
regular surgical masks no help
Madonna Nichols
01:11:51
In Alabama taking 2-3 days for results
Emily Stallings
01:12:03
Hospital don’t have enough supplies so staff, so I doubt they’d provide to doulas
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:12:06
everyday life for a germophone
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:12:10
germophobe
Juli Tilsner
01:12:15
Doula’s should not use the hospitals PPE supplies.
Heather McCullough
01:12:18
Cristen, that’s everyone here in Chicago!
Britt Sando
01:12:22
it is not stupid to wear gloves at grocery rn!
Britt Sando
01:12:30
thank you!
Anastasia Anastasia
01:12:33
If testing were available I would test before client visits
Saralyn MacPhee
01:12:49
yes, I have many nursing friends who already don't have enough PPE - masks, etc at their facilities, they will not have them for doulas anytime soon
Anastasia Anastasia
01:13:11
Hospitals won't provide - bring your own
Dayana Harrison
01:13:32
Our local military hospital is only letting 2 visitors. Dad and Doula counts as visitors.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:13:42
my concern with that is missing some part of the cascade of intervenitons
Melanie Ellison
01:13:50
Phew! That’s a relief to not be on the whole time.
Caitlin Clarke
01:14:20
They are paranoid that we are recording.
Dalia Abrams
01:14:21
why are they asking people not to use their device?
Heather McCullough
01:14:22
Chante, we have considered purchasing the small iPad to help with tele support (phones can be so hard for video and larger birth position images). Thoughts?
Heather McCullough
01:14:35
iPads for our clients of course
Madonna Nichols
01:14:37
I can't imagine what the rationale would be... just clean the device... smh
Amber Kennedy
01:14:38
here in Colorado hospitals are putting a "one support person" policy.
Anastasia Anastasia
01:14:43
Is it silly to say that I miss being in the room the whole time?
Vicki Bloom
01:14:44
A client of mine was told very strongly no video in room.
Cat LaPlante
01:14:57
@heather - a tripod is $20
Emily Stallings
01:14:58
Most L&D units do have a no recording policy.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:14:58
There are little bags that parents use to put their phones in to enter NICUs - they are available and people should demand them. They are then clean.
Leslie McGhee
01:15:00
Its common here in NYC that hospitals don’t allow video.
Emily Stallings
01:15:03
That seems to be the concern
Lora Schnurr
01:15:11
It’s not recording, just a call, right?
Lora Schnurr
01:15:22
except that ZOOM can record as an option.
Allison Tate
01:15:25
video may be an issue depending on recording Laws?
Lindsey Daniels
01:15:35
How can we find out who are state ACOG rep is?
Heather McCullough
01:15:37
They are not recording, just in communication
Vicki Bloom
01:15:40
Chante, contact on who to call?
Lindsey Daniels
01:15:41
How do we find their contact information?
Juli Tilsner
01:15:44
THE PRESIDENT OF ACOG RECOMMENDED TELE SERVICES ?
KariAnne Loy
01:15:48
How can we find out that information for our states? Our own reps
Dana Patterson
01:15:48
Chante and Emily, do either of you talk about pricing and how that is structured (do they just call anytime you are need you or are they limited to a certain number of phone calls to you)?
Chante Perryman
01:15:54
It was our state ACOG Rep
Juli Tilsner
01:16:08
got it thanks
Vicki Bloom
01:16:13
Would love to find an advocate in NYC.
Rebecca Rovner
01:16:19
What are doulas thinking regarding PP follow up visits? Following clients' preferences regarding in person visits, or taking the social distancing more to the extreme?
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:16:19
wohoo!
Heather Felder
01:16:33
👏🏽👏🏽
Melanie Ellison
01:16:49
Definitely going to do video conferencing for postpartum visits and everything except for labor itself
Coleen Salazar
01:16:52
great job!
Jenn Randall
01:17:03
SUPER JOB!
Arrin Blount
01:17:06
women are phenomenal
Emily Fontes
01:17:10
wanted to drop the link about hipaa compliant telehealth: https://www.facebook.com/bloombirthpros/posts/2481283891971867
Scarlett Lynsky
01:17:11
Oregon Doula Association is writing a letter maybe to the Governor? Maybe to the Oregon Health Authority, because they do pay for Medicaid doulas—they know how important doula services are.
Michelle Haskell
01:17:24
You're THAT Margaret! Hey, you're basically a local celebrity in Lansing MI! Fangirling hard over here!
Scarlett Lynsky
01:17:32
But currently, we won’t be allowed in unless we are the sole “visitor"
Heather McCullough
01:17:36
PP: our clients who gave birth YESTERDAY were told by their OB that, because they were in the hospital, THEY can spread C19 to others and should not have anyone over!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:17:39
xoxo
Heather McCullough
01:17:45
We are PP Telehealth because of that
Melanie Ellison
01:17:45
yes. I’m talking about clients switching to homebirth.
Chante Perryman
01:17:57
YES! Get the ipad. But I haven't had any issues with the phone either
Lindsay Breithaupt
01:18:23
Do you have guidance for virtual support for postpartum doula care, especially for clients who hired for overnight support?
Anastasia Anastasia
01:18:30
Where can we sign
Chante Perryman
01:19:02
I charge one fee. Call whenever they need me
Michelle Cohen
01:19:09
I”m also curious about postpartum doula care and how best to do that virtually when they need such hands on support usually!
Dana Patterson
01:19:39
Thank you, Chante!
Chante Perryman
01:19:53
super welcome!
Dalia Abrams
01:20:03
Margaret what state????
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:20:13
also gave a proclamation of recognition of world doula week
Melanie Ellison
01:20:21
My hospital didn’t care about the quotes by CDC, AWHONN and ACOG regarding letting doulas in.
Courtney Pollington
01:20:31
Michigan
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:20:44
@Melanie you have to go to legislators, hospitals won't help you, in most cases
Leah Dubin
01:20:44
Michigan!
Chante Perryman
01:20:46
for postpartum virtually - it is just checking in emotionally and seeing how they are doing.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:20:54
<3 Jenny Byer
Olivia Courser
01:21:03
My hospital is a branch of a larger organization. The local contacts both don't have the power to set policy or the interest to listen to the quotes...
Melanie Ellison
01:21:15
ok
Michelle Cohen
01:21:23
Thank you Chante..that’s pretty much what I figured. It’s all we can do at this point…and give info, etc.
Lorie McCoy
01:21:24
Bingo Olivia!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:21:36
MAKE FRIENDS WITH MATERNAL AND INFANT HEALTH VITALITY IN YOUR STATE
Chante Perryman
01:21:49
yes, people don't really want others around their new babies right now anyway. sadly
Lindsey Daniels
01:22:24
I cannot find CA's contact information for our ACOG state rep
Alison Frauenglass
01:22:37
I m in NYC so I we are facing the worst. To me the evidence is clear nothing is more important then flattening the curve. Unpopular as this maybe I think virtual only in hospital support is for the greater good right now. Its in the best interest of our clients, their families, ourselves, our families, and our much need medical staff.
Jennifer Anderson
01:23:08
@Olivia - Everyone of those systems has a “Death Star”. That’s what I affectionately call them in CA. Large organizations has a central admin building where all the decision makers reside that puts out policy to every hospital in it’s system. Find the Death Star for that system and start writing
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:23:09
L&D RN here, I agree, flatten the curve
Efe Osaren
01:23:13
Agreed. It's very dangerous to say we should be there during a pandemic
Heather McCullough
01:23:35
@Alison F. - Agreed. The care we provide is so important, and we are needed to help people stay home, but should not be going into the hospitals.
Lindsey Daniels
01:23:45
HOW DO I CONTACT CALIFORNIA STATE ACOG REP? THANK YOU!
Olivia Courser
01:23:53
@Jennifer My message only impacted on the surface!
Vicki Bloom
01:23:53
NYC government advisory as of yesterday was zero visitors including doulas except if patient in minor or dying.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:23:58
exigent circumstances were provided for in the executive order which Gov. Whitmer said included birth support
Allison Tate
01:23:59
A wonderful Midwife at TGH Tampa fought hard to have Doulas included and she was successful
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:24:20
EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES is your legal inroad
Lindsey Daniels
01:24:33
I have contacted over 100 news anchors with DONA International's and CDC guidelines and the issue where hospitals have restricted doulas, and only 1 replied saying they'd contact Cedars and that was 5 days ago
Chante Perryman
01:24:38
Check with state birth coalitions and see if they have a contact for you
Emily Stallings
01:25:15
We are health risks to our clients at this point. We do not know if we’re shedding coronavirus. As much as it sucks, we should not be going into hospitals right now.
Efe Osaren
01:25:21
Not all Doulas are in agreement for Doulas in hospitals right now. WHat if we get sick? Get our families sick? Doulas don't get health insurance? or paid sick leave. This is very reckless and will hurt Black/POC people the most.
Emily Stallings
01:25:35
And being there is a risk to us!
Olivia Courser
01:25:46
As Rebecca noted, there are plenty of hospital employees that may be a higher risk of spreading this illness.
Lindsey Daniels
01:25:46
I CONTACTED OVER 100 CA NEWS ANCHORS and 1 person wrote back... 5 days ago
Sarah Young
01:25:55
As a doula, I would be worried about my exposure in the hospital as well from the nurses and doctors.
Efe Osaren
01:26:00
We are not hospital employess
Melissa Cook
01:26:29
Unless things become much less dire, the topic of advocating for doulas is mute.
Madonna Nichols
01:26:30
How about working on hospitals supplying I Pads for virtual care from their doula's?
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:26:51
GOOD CONNECTIONS: SOCIAL JUSTICE ADVOCATES, BREASTFEEDING ADVOCATES
Leah Dubin
01:26:53
I think that is up to every doula to decide for themselves. Shared decision making with clients etc regarding going into the hospitals.
Dalia Abrams
01:27:04
Don't hospitals have iPads for translation? Maybe they can use them for doulas?
Madonna Nichols
01:27:19
Not all have for translation... but seems prudent to offer
Emily Stallings
01:27:20
Hospital supplies are always too limited
Allison Tate
01:27:21
I love all of your suggestions and all you have achieved 🙌🏻
fatima abdallah
01:27:35
i agree Leah, everyone make their own personal decision and don't pass judgement.
Jenn Randall
01:27:42
If I understand it correctly, the discussion is about making access available for the clients and doulas who WANT to serve in person... not mandating that everyone go to hospitals.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:27:48
The idea of a doula attending multiple births in multiple hospitals, going from one hospital to another, with multiple exposures to possibly exposed hospital employees, seems to be a perfect storm
Alison Frauenglass
01:27:48
I feel like doulas have been fighting so long before this to be acknowledged as essential to birth persons care that, all this keep doulas in hospitals aren't acknowledge the current reality.
Jennifer Anderson
01:27:59
LOL. I pity law makers right now (kinda) Lots of doulas sitting around with not much to do. Recipe for an overwhelming inbox and VM. Love it
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:28:01
CREATE A STATEWIDE DOULA ORG
Chris Aguilar
01:28:13
L&D RN’s are a greater risk to our clients than we are as doulas. they spend 12 hours in the hospital going from area to are and room to room.
Alison Frauenglass
01:28:35
This isn't the same fight and its not justified because its dangerous to everyone's including our own welfare
Emily Fontes
01:28:36
Hi Candy, we did discuss some postpartum doula virtual services in my webinar last week and yes, some ppd are doing all virtual work right now: https://vimeo.com/397845325
Olivia Courser
01:28:45
Not ALL patients in the hospital require full PPE. If you pass the screening tests and are not suspected to have COV 19, then you do not use these full precautions. L&D nurses are not in full gear for ALL of the birthing persons entering the hospital right now.
Emily Stallings
01:28:46
Yes, but we’re not going to get rid of L&D nurses or Drs., etc.
Efe Osaren
01:29:01
It should not be a Doulas personal decision. You can cause harm to people. That isn't personal.
Emily Stallings
01:29:01
So them being a greater risk is kind of irrelevant
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:29:23
This is not the time to be working independently. We need each other!
Madonna Nichols
01:29:38
Asymptomatic people shed the virus... so not having symptoms doesn't mean you don't have the illness
Amy Haderer
01:29:52
Thank you, that’s huge Margaret, thank you!
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:30:00
Nurses all over the world are going out sick from exposure - they are being exposed and they will expose doulas.
Dalia Abrams
01:30:03
I run a doula organization/community doula project. Would it be helpful to designate doulas to specific hospitals to reduce cross infection from hospital to hospital?
Efe Osaren
01:30:23
The whole part of being a Doula is about harm reduction. This is NOT harm reduction.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:31:07
advocating for birth support is most definitely harm reduction.
Efe Osaren
01:31:08
It's ignoring what the evidence says. It's ignoring your health and the your communities health.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:31:14
Say a doula comes in after hours. Guess where she has to walk through? The ED. More and more, they are going to be full of sick, coughing people. I’m not sure hospitals are changing that. They could be - I don’t know.
Leah Dubin
01:31:18
If you don’t agree… why are you still here? That’s what I don’t understand. We don’t all have to agree. But we should support one another.
Heather McCullough
01:31:26
We can provide superlative, constant, quality support for our clients by Zoom Office Hours, Free / reduce fee CBE like our Evidence Based Birth Classes, EXTRA prenatal visits….and then virtual birth support. Keeps Doulas & Midwives safe, while reducing risk for all of our clients and the hospital staff. I have 23 clients (with my partner) due in April - if we went to the hospitals, the 2 of us could be our own epicenter of disease.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:31:53
great point margaret
Efe Osaren
01:32:01
This is white feminism and white saviousim. So harmful
Rachel Brown
01:32:13
argui on this thread is counterproductive
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:32:15
Efe what do you mean
Rachel Brown
01:32:19
arguing *
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:32:19
getting patients in and out more quickly should be the end goal
Amy Haderer
01:32:48
GOD FORBID!!! lol
Vicki Bloom
01:33:02
Getting people discharged 6-12 hours after vaginal birth like birth centers do can reduce exposure.
Cassandra Newman
01:33:05
as a doula who is a student nurse graduating soon and my doula partner is already an L&D nurse, we are already in the hospitals, but we are going virtual for now so that we don't spread. Many of our local doulas are pregnant or have newborns -- they are not happy about some us that are wanting to advocate for our clients right to have us their. We are now at only 1 support person in most hospitals. I agree that doulas who want to be at the hospital in person can be there with PPE, reduce the nurses load and get the moms out of the hospital quickly...
Efe Osaren
01:33:10
There's history in reproductive justice space of white women making laws/policies that harm Black/POC
Alison Frauenglass
01:33:30
Why cant that rate be reduced as doula support virtually. Our entire healthcare system is in threaten with collapse. We can provide essential care without added to the pandemic.
Dalia Abrams
01:33:32
If the need arises to change nurse patient ratio due to not enough nurses, the doulas could help being there with the client and letting the nurse know when she needs to come in.
Efe Osaren
01:34:05
And the panelists complete lack of listening to the attendees during a town hall is peak privilege
Madonna Nichols
01:34:12
The doula cannot do what the nurse does and visa verse. One is not a substitute for the other
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:34:22
Good point Madonna
Allison Tate
01:34:59
it’s so important that as Doulas we don’t polarize each other in this situation - we must respect our choices to offer face to face or not
Allison Tate
01:35:30
I’m seeing a lot of anger between doulas which detracts from the wider issues
Heather McCullough
01:35:31
The shifting sands of C19 is so incredible! Working so hard for 10 days to help us get into the hospitals, and now shifting to not wanting to risk exposure :)
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:36:54
Efe it would probably help to put your concerns in the Q & A.
Leslie McGhee
01:37:00
Efe, thank you for speaking your truth! I hear you and appreciate your contributions to this conversation!
Heather McCullough
01:37:02
Chante, what is the focus of your letters
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:37:27
Just suggesting as a way to have your comments highlighted.
Jennifer Anderson
01:37:28
Chante, is there somewhere we can see these letters and not reinvent the wheel?
Chante Perryman
01:37:37
Heather - that doulas should be permitted in the room if clients want them there
Sabine Omvik
01:37:37
All your info is really helpful. Thank you for putting it all into perspective!
Chante Perryman
01:37:40
Kentucky
Emily Stallings
01:37:58
We can think doulas are essential and should be in hospitals in general - evidence backs up our argument! - and also think this crisis requires minimizing face to face contact between people - evidence backs that up!
Chante Perryman
01:38:08
Jennifer - I will have Cristen share a copy
Jennifer Anderson
01:38:31
Awesome! Thanks C
Chante Perryman
01:38:49
Thank you!! Still a work in progress!
KariAnne Loy
01:39:32
Thank you so much ladies for doing this! We appreciate you
Shannon Dykes
01:41:04
Such a great meeting. Thank you ladies for your time and wisdom!
Heather Felder
01:41:27
👏🏽Thank you, Traci!!
Michelle Cohen
01:41:31
Thank you so much for doing this. You all are phenomenal!
Efe Osaren
01:41:40
We HAVE to consider that our individual actions affect marginalized communities. Adding to the number of carries in a hospital isn't harm reduction. And it puts clients in a position to not hire virtual doulas because there's a doula who jeopardize her community for your birth. Her community withover flowing hospitals, with homeless people. with immocompromised people, elderly.
Eleanor Gray
01:41:51
Can Chante say more about how she got all the endorsements from local ACOG and CNM organizations? I missed all the different endorsements she got, too.
Efe Osaren
01:41:53
We could be living this way for over a year
Emily Stallings
01:42:14
I agree with you, Efe
Kim Nicholson
01:42:22
Such great information, thanks everyone
Olivia Courser
01:42:31
@Efe How do you feel about partners joining birthing persons in the hospital?
Chante Perryman
01:42:46
My team reached out to them. We already most of the contacts because of when we were lobbying for CPM's in our state
Efe Osaren
01:43:03
They can take that risk. They're family. My clients are not my family.
Chante Perryman
01:43:24
KY AWHONN, KY ANCM and kind of KY ACOG
Beth Dickerson
01:43:27
Was there any pathogen/biohazard/OSHA bloodborne pathogen training in any of the doula trainings that you attended?
Anna Forsberg
01:43:34
In some hospitals in San Diego even partners are being excluded. any advice?
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:43:47
CDC allows for exigent circumstances such as laboring people who need labor support
Melanie Wachsman
01:43:48
would you share your letter?
Denise Bolds
01:44:08
This is great information. This pandemic goes beyond Black and white. However I truly wished Christin would expand her reach on speakers with more diversity. I am happy to speak on what is happening - and not here in NYC. There are so many on the front line yet they are not seen.
Grace Nowakoski
01:44:31
We had some personal safety training in the doula training I certified with.
Eleanor Gray
01:44:47
Thanks, Chante!
Carmen Oates
01:45:03
Efe, thank you for speaking your perspective. I am wondering about some of my clients who are alone. There are times when I’m the only birth partner. I hear you. I do. But when I think of those clients, I would consider going with them. But I do hear what you’re saying because these realities are serious and we should not overlook the impact these efforts have on ALL birthing people.
Hannah Pratt
01:45:04
I was trained on pathogens in my training
Beth Dickerson
01:45:34
Do you feel this training helps you avoid infection in the labor room?
Efe Osaren
01:46:27
The perspective doesn't change because they're single. The affects will be the same.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:46:28
Doctors and nurses are getting infected. It’s very hard to avoid it. I got H1N1 at UCSF working there when it was new.
Grace Nowakoski
01:46:50
Absolutely, but not sufficient for COVID-19. Because we don’t even know what is
Sarah Young
01:47:00
I am in Omaha, where gatherings of more than 10 people are prohibited, schools are closed until at least April 30th, and there's not enough PPE for our healthcare workers. I don't fell like adding another person into the hospital in my community is the responsible choice right now.
Sarah Young
01:47:55
But I will add that that is the situation where I live. However, this virus will spread nationwide at some point.
Melanie Ellison
01:48:05
Ok so if most doulas are thinking it’s not wise for our own health to attend hospital births, what about the risk of home birth?
Jennifer Anderson
01:48:26
Tracey, you simply rock!
Hannah Pratt
01:48:34
agreed can we talk about home birth and unassisted birth
Vicki Bloom
01:49:04
In NYC I’m still worried that there won’t be beds for birthing folks soon.
Cecily Sam Legg
01:49:24
@Efe, you’re absolutely within your rights as a doula to practice the way that is right for you. I don’t think that advocating for patients rights means denying Doula’s rights.
Olivia Courser
01:49:31
Will hospitals be able to separate general care needs (like maternity care) and the treatment for known COVID-19? Could that help reduce the spread so that those are no longer shared spaces?
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:49:34
best to consider how to best support clients with minimal risk to self
Efe Osaren
01:50:41
The self is selfish and individualistic. This is bigger than what you are willing to risk. People are dying. Death is final. This is crazy that I am having to say this.
Caitlin Clarke
01:51:00
So important. I don’t think anybody wants to judge doulas who don’t want to go to hospitals. We want both doulas and clients to have informed consent.
Lorie McCoy
01:51:17
Exactly Caitlyn
Beth Dickerson
01:51:20
I agree, it is about the individual
Alison Frauenglass
01:51:21
What some of us are saying and isn't being addressed is their is plenty of evidence that doulas in hospital is reckless.
Denise Bolds
01:51:37
The system is flawed. Birthgivers going into a hospital is so hypocritical - pregnancy is not an illness. There needs to be a reframing of having a separate building for maternity - away from illness and disease. Here in NYC there’s not enough midwives to support home births. NYS only recognize CNM’s This pandemic calls for massive policy changes in maternal health, childbirth and post partum.
Jenn Randall
01:51:38
Excellent! Informed consent and refusal
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:51:56
I do agree with Cristen that for a small percent of birthers, those with immense history of trauma, a doula might be essential
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:51:56
I get what you are saying, Efe. Public health agrees with you, but public health doesnt consider individual circumstances.
Candy Ramirez
01:51:57
I agree that as doulas and people who live in these communities we have a responsibility to do our best to help stop the spread of this virus. As a POC I do know that it’s communities like mine who are historically hardest hit in these epidemics. I do agree that we have to pay attention and have a say and advocate for ourselves now, because rules implemented in an emergency now can be used later on to keep doulas from supporting birthing people in hospitals.
Olivia Courser
01:52:04
Would you share the evidence on the dangers of doulas in hospitals? Do we have any studies on that in the US?
Sarah Young
01:52:06
Yes Denise Bolds. The system is broken and this exposes this!
Samsarah Morgan
01:52:12
Doulas as a profession must be recognized as part of this nations first response in a crisis
Patrice Beebe
01:52:15
Thank you, ladies, for all you do and all you are sharing!
Olivia Levine-Gorelick
01:52:27
What is the course? will you write it down?
Leah Dubin
01:52:40
I just saw comments about hospitals allowing “tissue collection service staff” in to collect placentas- I don’t think allowing doulas in is any higher risk than that.
Lorie McCoy
01:52:46
Thank you Traci!
Vicki Bloom
01:52:47
We need to be opening more non-hospital birthing centers.
Heather Felder
01:52:49
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Susan Rook
01:52:55
Please share link to that course!
Dana Patterson
01:52:56
Do you have a link for that class, Traci? It would be a good class, even after this passes.
Anna Forsberg
01:52:58
Doulas are not first responders.
Samsarah Morgan
01:53:04
individuals must always have autonomy
Lora Schnurr
01:53:23
We are already hearing about no visitors in our area…waiting for confirmation.
Traci Weafer
01:53:25
CBI Childbirth international
Samsarah Morgan
01:53:44
exactly!!!!
Ryan Wofford
01:53:46
How many women will be stressed or angry beyond belief with NO visitor?
Olivia Courser
01:53:48
In general, birth is not an emergency. Their care providers are not first responders.
Lorie McCoy
01:53:53
Yes Margaret!!
KariAnne Loy
01:54:00
Exactly Margaret
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:54:00
GOOD POINT RYAN
Samsarah Morgan
01:54:17
exactly !!!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:54:18
at the very least, we should advocate for at least one support person
Allison Tate
01:54:31
I was absolutely just about to mention the longer term view for Doulas - agree đź’Ż percent
Efe Osaren
01:54:34
Not a decade. four hundred years
Heather Felder
01:54:41
THANK YOU, Margaret !!
Beth Dickerson
01:54:42
This is the first time that I have seen from the hospitals, in their letter heads, listing Doulas as professionals, it makes me so proud. We are no longer the "friend" or "extra person" to help... I so agree! We are no longer just guests.
Leah Dubin
01:54:48
YES Margaret! So important! This is why the conversation is important regardless.
Heather McCullough
01:54:50
@Margaret, great point - future focused on birth rights
giuditta tornetta
01:54:57
yes we are not visitors or we will never get back into hospitals
Allison Tate
01:55:01
this is a turning point for how Doulas are viewed
Jennifer D’Jamoos
01:55:05
*birthing people
Jenn Randall
01:55:17
Excellent point, Margaret!
Cassandra Newman
01:55:20
https://childbirthinternational.com/shop/professional-development/infection-control-and-prevention/
Michelle Bradley
01:55:20
This is what I have been thinking the whole time Margaret.
Efe Osaren
01:55:26
Im actually going to leave this chat. This has been super triggering. Check your white privilege.
Beth Dickerson
01:55:33
Absolutely Margaret!
Samsarah Morgan
01:55:36
and for doulas who are already barred - they regain the right to serve clients
Emily Le
01:55:49
Great point. In Nevada, for example, a doula does not have to be certified. That should be a first step in being taken seriously.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:55:51
I think that the moment is also - are doulas going to respect the need to keep people safe, or be seen as reckless. It could go both ways.
Samsarah Morgan
01:55:52
when the crisis is over
Chante Perryman
01:56:10
https://childbirthinternational.com/shop/professional-development/infection-control-and-prevention/
Alison Frauenglass
01:56:16
Its two different arguments are doulas essential under normal circumstances in hospital or during a pandemic where our health care system could collapse. Also no one is saying doula support isn't essential only that it should be done virtually.
Denise Bolds
01:56:18
The course is $65
Lorie McCoy
01:56:26
One of our hospitals are requiring proof of certification because family members are calling themselves doulas
Cassandra Newman
01:56:48
CBI: "In the light of the COVID-19 pandemic, we are offering this course for whatever you can afford ($0-$65) until April 30th, 2020. Just enter the amount you can afford in the box below."
Anna Forsberg
01:57:00
things have changed since we have been on this call in CA
Anna Forsberg
01:57:05
full state lockdown
Melanie Ellison
01:57:11
Really good point Traci.
Olivia Levine-Gorelick
01:57:18
Thank you!
Coleen Salazar
01:57:23
what? I'm in Cali...the whole state
Olivia Courser
01:57:32
Great point, Traci.
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:57:34
I thought the lockdown was just LA
Anna Forsberg
01:57:39
yes ENTIRE State of CA
Elizabeth von der Ahe
01:57:42
Wow ok
Denise Bolds
01:57:44
Christen this happens everytime when you host a Zoom call you miss so much in the comments and you are also trying to host - maybe you have to focus on one or the other?
Jennifer Anderson
01:57:50
Yay :-(
Coleen Salazar
01:57:55
@ Anna, OMG.
Carmen Herlihy
01:58:01
We are essential as evidenced based shows better outcome with a doula - Yes!!!
Coleen Salazar
01:58:10
I'll be virtual folks!
molly patterson
01:58:31
hey all
Eleanor Gray
01:58:32
HI Traci!! What was the free course. I went to CBI and didn’t see it.
Samsarah Morgan
01:58:33
yes!
Carmen Herlihy
01:58:34
Thank you Margaret
Amy Beck
01:58:58
Thank you for providing the time and space for this.
Melanie Ellison
01:59:23
@Eleanor, you enter how much you can pay at the bottom of the page
Denise Bolds
01:59:30
Its $65
Scarlett Lynsky
01:59:41
Are hospitals suspending elective inductions right now (because they take so long?) They should be trying to keep laboring people in the hospital for the absolute minimum amount of time.
Heather McCullough
01:59:53
@Anna - CA shut down means??? To only 1 visitor or shelter in place the whole state?
Lorie McCoy
02:00:04
Ours are not stopping inductions Scarlett
Rachel Brown
02:00:21
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING AND BEING INCLUSIVE ❤️
Dalia Abrams
02:00:28
Stop inductions? Or do more?
Heather McCullough
02:00:29
@Margaret - where can we see your documents
Anna Forsberg
02:00:30
I haven't been able to read the entire annoucement yet
Scarlett Lynsky
02:00:55
Inductions take SO long sometimes. Of course if it’s medically necessary, it makes sense, but elective inductions seem like they should be suspended.
Bebe Butler
02:01:14
What was the website for the training?
Samsarah Morgan
02:01:29
https://childbirthinternational.com/shop/professional-development/infection-control-and-prevention/
Nena Complo
02:01:31
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-reports-no-new-domestic-coronavirus-infections-for-the-first-time-since-outbreak-started-11584611233
Sarah Young
02:01:32
Thank you for suggesting a break for doulas as well.
Lorie McCoy
02:01:45
Many of us have FULL calendars and are trying hard to navigate all of this. Thank you for all of the information.
Samsarah Morgan
02:01:56
oh no they are inducing up a storm!
Heather McCullough
02:02:04
Another COVID-19 course available by Wisdom Way: https://wisdomway-institute.thinkific.com/enrollments
Rachel Brown
02:02:06
in OK elective inductions and csections are canceled/suspended
Amy Beck
02:02:07
In Bloomington, IN, a provider told a client that they won't discuss elective induction until they're at least 41 weeks.
Nena Complo
02:02:10
The link I just posted is for CA state lockdown
Bronwyn Sheppard
02:02:43
it depends on if you define “elective” as purely elective or 41 weeks, etc.
Nena Complo
02:02:53
lame. Sorry that was on Wall Street journal..
Melanie Wachsman
02:02:57
YES!
Sarah Young
02:03:04
I meant to quarantine after the hospital
Brianna Torres
02:03:28
@Nena can you repost the link for CA state lockdown
Celeste Kraft
02:03:28
Do you know you can scroll up and see older messages?
Emily Fontes
02:03:33
Just want to be sure that people have the direct link to the most recent updates to hipaa compliance: https://www.hipaajournal.com/hipaa-compliance-and-covid-19-coronavirus/
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:03:36
as much as the rest of the care team is quarantining?
Dalia Abrams
02:03:38
Some doulas have jobs they HAVE to go to.
Sarah Young
02:03:39
Hospitals in Omaha have cancelled elective surgeries (non OB/GYN)
Scarlett Lynsky
02:03:40
If you have multiple clients due around the same time, it might be impossible to quarantine following a hospital birth for 2 weeks without sending a backup to the next birth
Lora Schnurr
02:03:58
There’s the in between as well…we have a retail business my husband and I are dealing with as well.
Emily Fontes
02:04:03
and the direct link to the webinar replay about virtual services: https://vimeo.com/397845325
molly patterson
02:04:22
Just got off a call with a surrogate couple navigating having everyone in the hospital and what it looks like for them once baby is born
Coleen Salazar
02:04:28
I have to leave. Take care all. Your lives are all very important! Be good to yourselves!
Nena Complo
02:04:53
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/19/coronavirus-latest-news/
Nena Complo
02:04:59
Ca lockdown
Denise Bolds
02:05:02
Good night everyone. Thanks.
Hannah Pratt
02:05:07
thank you Emily!
Melanie Ellison
02:05:10
Thanks, Coleen. It’s helpful to think of that some support from us is better than nothing (if we’re dead from being present at every birth).
Lora Schnurr
02:05:14
I appreciate the conversation about self-quarantining. I haven’t been doing that strictly, and I needed to hear about it and it being necessary for in-person support.
Brianna Torres
02:05:14
thank you @nena
Madeleine Maguire
02:05:20
Does this apply to postpartum also?
Nena Complo
02:05:23
<3
Madeleine Maguire
02:05:30
They are rejecting the virtual offer?
Lora Schnurr
02:05:47
I have a postpartum client right now, and I’m thinking we need to go to virtual.
Madeleine Maguire
02:06:04
I am trying to get all clients onto virtual, but not all want it.
Madeleine Maguire
02:06:15
(I do postpartum daytime doula help only)
Lorie McCoy
02:06:16
Any tips on “selling” the virtual support?
Hannah Pratt
02:07:25
she hopes to speak to the groups most at risk to COVID
Hannah Pratt
02:07:41
it would be great to have Denise Bolds on the next call
Dayana Harrison
02:07:48
How did you establish that online services, Chante?
Morgane Richardson
02:08:06
If you’re wanting to promote your virtual offerings, think about sharing on Instagram/Facebook, etc. Show people what it would look like by going live on those platforms, etc.
Margaret Rodeghier
02:08:33
bit.ly/michigandoulaswin
Morgane Richardson
02:08:36
Talk about the difference ways that doulas provide support. Its not just physical presence at a birth
Melanie Ellison
02:08:36
Here’s Chante’s page showing the virtual option: https://www.babydreamsmc.com/doula.html
MJ Lynch
02:08:43
thank you all
Jenn Randall
02:08:47
Emily Fontes: I tried the link you posted for the HIPAA Journal. it says”No Results Found”
molly patterson
02:08:49
Virtual is much like speaking to them on speaker phone while they are laboring at home.
KariAnne Loy
02:08:49
Any tips for someone who is a student currently? Wait till this blows over or continue and do this as carefully as possible. I am very close to getting my certification. This may take awhile to go away as well.
Cindy Jewett
02:08:50
Yes more details please on how it works- no massage, back pressure….
Margaret Rodeghier
02:08:51
bit.ly/doulasareessential - petition
Madeleine Maguire
02:08:55
I’m talking about postpartum support, not birth.
Susan Rook
02:09:01
Thanks for all this info and your time tonight!!
Ryan Wofford
02:09:03
The hospital in our area has every entrance shut down except the emergency room. So women in labor are forced to go through this funnel of snot and spit to get to the third floor to birth.
Nicky Pariser
02:09:16
Yes, would love discussion on in home postpartum support
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:09:27
acts of god could be in contract to protect for unknowns
MJ Lynch
02:09:32
still having backups?
Melanie Wachsman
02:09:42
Thank you all so much! <3
Scarlett Lynsky
02:09:42
Thanks everyone!
Jessica Custodio
02:09:44
Thank you so much ladies! Take care
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:09:46
The system is flawed. Birthgivers going into a hospital is so hypocritical - pregnancy is not an illness. There needs to be a reframing of having a separate building for maternity - away from illness and disease. Here in NYC there’s not enough midwives to support home births. NYS only recognize CNM’s This pandemic calls for massive policy changes in maternal health, childbirth and post partum.
Jeannine Tuttle
02:09:57
Thanks!
Samsarah Morgan
02:10:01
hear hear!!!!!
Lisa Taylor
02:10:06
YES!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:10:11
sorry I meant to put her name, denise
MJ Lynch
02:10:15
thanks so much for all of this and hear hear!!
Heather Mae Marquis
02:10:22
this goes to my question in the Q and A about CPM licenses
Shawna Mertens
02:10:22
Yes that's IL!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:10:23
yes, illinois
MJ Lynch
02:10:24
wow!!
Ariel Bernstein
02:10:33
so are NY CPMs
Betsy Rose
02:10:34
I would love input on in home postpartum care, that’s on my horizon in next week or so.
Lora Schnurr
02:10:42
Thank you so much, I’m signing out!
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:10:47
so acog might concede? ;)
Cat Gomez
02:10:53
Thank you for your guidance and creating a space to share and listen
Heather McCullough
02:11:01
Yes! We’re working on it in Illinois! As a CPM that would enable me to provide supporting families right away
Lorie McCoy
02:11:04
Thank you for all of this!
Leah Dubin
02:11:07
We need that here in Mississippi as well!
KariAnne Loy
02:11:11
Thank you for all of this!
Amy Haderer
02:11:21
It’s a HUGE opportunity. I know this is scary, but there’s still a lot of amazing change that could happen if we work hard, move fast, and advocate.
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:11:27
@margaret - next petition to the governor: separate birth facilities ;)
ilka fanni
02:11:34
SF is doing that separation
Celeste Kraft
02:11:36
I've worked in hospitals that have L&D completely separate---attached building, separate entrance.
Amber Kennedy
02:11:55
thanks for this, as a new doula this really helps me see my options and wrap my mind around this situation a bit more.
Justine Leach
02:12:08
I want to remind everyone what amazing work and how important that work is in the current climate when there is so much anxiety and fear among birthing people - your work matters and even if you are not physically in the room the preparation work you do with people makes a difference - any virtual work you do in labor will make a difference - and the support you provide to process the birth experience makes a difference
Jenn Randall
02:12:43
Celeste: that’s awesome!
Emily Fontes
02:13:12
if anyone wants more help on “selling” virtual services, how to talk about it, etc PLEASE reach out to me, I’m happy to help you frame language for this
Anna Forsberg
02:13:14
let's all make sure we take care of our selves after this call. Go do some care for your body and spirit! ground yourself. care for yourself so we can all do our jobs in the best and safest ways we know how
Celeste Kraft
02:13:21
Jenn Randall: It is! But they needed the vision when they actually designed and built the hospital!
Nena Complo
02:13:31
Yes Anna <3
Candy Ramirez
02:13:41
@Justice Leach thanks for that reminder!!
Melanie Ellison
02:13:46
@Emily, do you have resources to help sell virtual services like you’re offering?
Celeste Kraft
02:13:51
Thank you, panel!
Mary Hanks
02:13:54
Thank you ALL for everything. So much to think about. I so appreciate this meeting and all the work you've put into making this happen!
Michelle Bradley
02:13:56
This was an amazing town hall. Gave me a lot to think about. Thank you!
Anna Forsberg
02:13:57
I know the architect who designed the newest Hospital in San Diego
molly patterson
02:14:04
Thanks all!
Emily Fontes
02:14:06
yes, get in touch with me Melanie, I will help you any way I can
Jennifer D’Jamoos
02:14:09
thanks everyone
Anna Forsberg
02:14:11
I'm going to contact him immediately about redesigns
Jocelyn Albertson
02:14:20
Thank you for all of this! Lots of great info.
Carmen Valverde
02:14:55
thank you!!
Justine Leach
02:15:02
you are the safety that many people people depend upon - that doesn’t go away even if you have to be virtual support during the birth - your work still makes a difference at every point of contact you make
Olivia Courser
02:15:27
I needed this even before this pandemic!
Laura Duffy
02:15:33
Thank you so much for all of this! So educational and educational, totally eye-opening, and empowering. <3
Olivia Courser
02:15:33
Thank you!
Emily Fontes
02:15:34
please trust in the relationships you’ve built with your clients, go virtual with them OFTEN and regularly
Nena Complo
02:16:08
thank you!!!
Anna Forsberg
02:16:11
thank you! we created a tracker like this for San Diego thank you for making it widely available
giuditta tornetta
02:16:15
thank this was amazing
Laura Duffy
02:16:17
Apparently it was extra educational ;)
Elizabeth von der Ahe
02:16:18
Thank you all!
Melanie Ellison
02:16:20
Thank you!!
KariAnne Loy
02:16:21
Thank you from Portland OR
Shawna Mertens
02:16:22
Thank you all!!
Caitlin Clarke
02:16:22
Thank you!!!