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Northstar Housing Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Sima Thorpe
23:36
I can reach out to Arc of The US if that would help
Cheryl Felak
23:53
I have many resources regarding successful options that are available in other places - they are not "state operated" though and most are non-profit. There have been several conferences this past year from various communities on how the process was navigated. I can provide these resources if desired.
Cheryl Felak
27:05
I do not consider The Arc of US as a great resource for housing options - they can provide one viewpoint and resource but they should not be the only resource or considered the best resource. They have a particular viewpoint which actually denies the choice of many. I understand this is a point of contention but I do believe that we all support personal choice and that's what we should focus on - not denying others the opportunity to make their choice
Stacy Dym
32:16
I think The Arc US is a great resource, no disrespect, Cheryl - I agree we need to hear all of the needs, we need everyone housed and living well with their needs met. We don't want a system driven by failure, we are in the mode of designing a system that meets all of the needs. We don't have "enough" for sure.
Stacy Dym
32:28
We need a variety of models.
Adrienne Stuart
32:50
https://www.congress.gov/106/plaws/publ402/PLAW-106publ402.pdf
Cheryl Felak
35:42
I totally understand, Stacy, I agree The Arc of US has many helpful resources, I just do not agree with using them as the best and only resource to look at. There are many successful housing models that The Arc does not support and my fear is that if The Arc does not endorse something, funding will not be available and a very viable option would be lost.
Stacy Dym
37:11
We need scattered housing in the community that is a combo of models, duplexes, triplexes, homes that can provide nursing level care, homes that can provide for live in caregiving in some models, homes that have parking for staff, homes that have 1,2,3,4 people living together (maybe up to 5-6), affordable, accessible, and durable (not cheap construction) with design in mind - livable spaces that anticipate integration and supports.
Rose Yu
37:44
Do we have data on number of people and their functional needs in our I/DD across the state?
Cathy
37:47
Exactly Stacy!
Cathy
38:39
Hi Rose, we do have some data, but not enough-- we are hoping the commissioned will gather some of that info
Rose Yu
39:13
@cathy thanks
Cathy
39:16
Commissioned STUDY.
Stacy Dym
39:34
A needs assessment of the PEOPLE for housing is not available - and the housing study is a review of designs, costs, geographic issues, models. We are working on getting needs of people who have nursing level care and how that translates to community-based living.
Cathy
39:37
There are about 26,000 adults with IDD on DDA
Cathy
39:53
There are about 13,000 of them living with parents or relative
Cheryl Felak
40:38
Curious about "scattered housing" - by this do you mean that several homes cannot be close and share supports/services and provide a nice pedestrian setting, - from my understanding, "scattered housinng" would not allow something that shares supports/servies
Cathy
41:02
I think we need to tease out the physical housing issues from the support to live in the housing issues
Darla Helt
41:40
absolutely Cathy
Claudia - Olympic Neighbor
42:18
I agree, Cathy. Does this group need to define the housing options/residential services that should be offered or can we push for the state to conduct research on what is needed, wanted and makes sense for WA and to provide adequate funding so providers can create the services individuals and their families have determined best fits their live style and needs
Cathy
43:32
I think the over arching value should be person-centered
Stacy Dym
44:11
Scattered housing is a housing term - it was designed to support low income housing - people with like needs with specific needs that allows for independence and support - it is usually used when talking about housing for families, single parents, people with children.
Cathy
44:43
Yes we need lots of scattered housing
Stacy Dym
46:25
Housing has to go hand in hand with community. People live in communities. Housing is what they live in. When you ask people to draw a picture of what a community looks like - it rarely includes an institution. It includes people in homes with public services to support their lives. I don't believe we are here to develop facilities. That is a critical issue.
Leigh Spruce
46:29
I wish we had more of a voice on what supports we need to live independently. I need assistance with some things, but I can't get anything because I don't qualify from being too independant
Cathy
49:51
I agree Rose== we need to agree on the values first
Adrienne Stuart
51:45
I think some of the information folks are interested in is available with the Washington State Independent Living Council. The housing study coming from the legislature should be helpful as well.
Stacy Dym
51:53
Families don't live forever - and families can't plan for a person's future if there isn't eventually a way for people with IDD to live outside their family home. COVID has brought some harsh lessons in that regard. I agree that not everyone will live for 20,30,40 years outside their family home. And generally communities of color want their loved ones living nearby in their community when it is outside the home.
Cathy
52:50
We may want to request that the legislature do a survey for their housing study
Leigh Spruce
53:35
I have to leave for another meeting
Darla Helt
57:45
Are we talking about services or brick and mortar?
Ky Ly She/Her
01:00:40
Most importantly how convenience it would be
Darla Helt
01:02:38
It is both, and we need to address them differently.
Cathy
01:03:17
I agree-- we need to tease out the issues between physical housing and then the needs
Krista Milhofer
01:03:54
Transportation needs to get added to that.
Ky Ly She/Her
01:07:25
I need data of people who are in institution, data of people who have disability and turn out homeless due to any reasonds
Ky Ly She/Her
01:07:28
reasons
Ky Ly She/Her
01:07:48
I meant I think we need*
Stacy Dym
01:11:11
Barriers - housing discrimination, NIMBYism, cost of land, cost of building materials, cost of design models, access to public transportation
Stacy Dym
01:12:05
Other barriers - lack of developers, complexity of using HTF/DD Aside/tax credits/bureaucracy of housing funding
Stacy Dym
01:12:49
Expanse of need - need volume, not a few houses per year built - need a wholescale effort to address housing
Ros Damm
01:12:53
safety
Stacy Dym
01:13:33
Another barriers - Lack of CORE waivers to support residential even when housing is available, available in every community
Ky Ly She/Her
01:14:54
are these housing going to be group home?
Cathy
01:15:09
We need many types of housing
Cathy
01:15:42
There is lack of funding in the Basic Plus Waiver to provide the supports needed for housing
Stacy Dym
01:15:48
great point Ros - SSI is the primary source of income and funding for housing
Ky Ly She/Her
01:16:07
waiting list
Ky Ly She/Her
01:16:35
*waiting list barrier
Adrienne Stuart
01:16:53
Forced impoverishment is being addressed in Civil Rights
Stacy Dym
01:17:36
Need more housing vouchers that pay market rent
Krista Milhofer
01:18:38
Freedom and freedom of choice are different things
Adrienne Stuart
01:19:09
Predictability and planning (same concept as caseload forecasting) could be a value. At age 7, I’m already stressing about where my kid is going to live.
Krista Milhofer
01:19:14
Many housing options do not value freedom.
Stacy Dym
01:19:41
I don't think its the housing model that limits freedom - its the residential model.
Stacy Dym
01:19:44
Those are different
Cathy
01:20:01
I agree Stacy
Krista Milhofer
01:20:24
Ross said freedom. Not freedom of choice. His words should be represented accurately or asked for clarification.
Stacy Dym
01:21:06
It should be easy to move when needs change or resources change - need choice, ability to have portable housing vouchers, asset limits that allow for deposits/moving expense
Rose Yu
01:21:07
Value: Within their life cycle, each person with I/DD regardless of their disability will have accessible and affordable housing options and supports to live safely and productively in the community of their choice.
Cathy
01:21:26
I like that Rose
Ros Damm
01:21:41
ros
Krista Milhofer
01:21:56
I like that too Rose
Stacy Dym
01:22:50
lol oddly the trend nationally is to just say IDD now, without the I/DD :) I just read that somewhere. Sidenote - just humorous.
Sima Thorpe
01:23:56
I noticed that change in the new Arc of The US branding guidelines
Krista Milhofer
01:24:01
We could go wild and not use the acronym at all. It's rather ironic that the plain language community is one of the worst offenders.
Stacy Dym
01:24:49
Housing - generally DOES need to account for accessibility for physical and health needs - for people with intellectual disabilities, this issues are often need for more than one person living in the home - which means larger spaces - and well designed spaces
Stacy Dym
01:26:09
Residential models usually account for the 'supervision" needs that tend to be needed for people with intellectual disabilities - and this goes back to more than one person living in the space or being in the space to provide support. Durable housing construction for people who have sensory and behavioral needs is also a factor.
Ros Damm
01:26:11
are only sopport DDA
Rose Yu
01:27:39
I need to leave in 10 min
Adrienne Stuart
01:28:52
Eligibility is being discussed in the Systems Accessibility work as well
Darla Helt
01:30:10
I agree Cathy!
Sima Thorpe
01:32:47
Great points!
Cathy
01:33:49
Yes!
Arzu Forough - WAA
01:34:39
Thank you everyone!
Arzu Forough - WAA
01:34:48
I need to get ready for another meeting.
Stacy Dym
01:34:55
Thanks everybody! Great convo.
Sima Thorpe
01:36:07
Thanks all!