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No Fascist USA: Lessons from the John Brown Anti-Klan Committee for Today's Movement - Shared screen with speaker view
Misha Heij-Mariano
27:02
i believe you are muted maggie!
Misha Heij-Mariano
28:03
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Misha Heij-Mariano
28:22
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Misha Heij-Mariano
30:50
The book is available direct from City Lights at this link: http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100689170The book is available at that link for 30% off.
matthew KM
30:55
wwoooo! noise!
James Tracy
31:44
Can you get this to the first slide
James Tracy
32:34
Thanks!
Ellie Stanley
33:14
Will this be recorded and sent to attendees?
Misha Heij-Mariano
33:38
yes we are getting a recording
Z! Haukeness
35:36
It sounds good to me. you might try turning off your video if it is on
Carla F Wallace
38:11
Yes Ellie. The SURJ Calls are recorded and the recordings are sent to those who sign up.
Mac Bakunin
40:34
Kept Kansas free!
Z! Haukeness
41:20
Hey Mickey!!
James Tracy
43:06
Hi Mickey!
Carla F Wallace
48:05
“…importance of international perspective…” YES!
Michael Novick
52:39
Hi as someone who was in JBAKC, later Anti-Racist Action and now connected with SURJ affiliate White People for Black LIves, I think an important connection between WURJ and JBAKC, as compared with ARA, is the consciousness of responding to the leadership and priorities of Black and other liberation struggles, and the centrality of solidarity.
Michael Novick
52:58
SURJ
James Tracy
55:10
Moderators! Can you find a way to amp what Michael just said?
Misha Heij-Mariano
56:06
all attendees can see michael's comment!
James Tracy
56:20
Thanks, I endorse it!
Misha Heij-Mariano
57:16
for folks who may have missed it, here's info on closed captioning --
Misha Heij-Mariano
57:17
https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=CFI-SURJwritten instructions: To join the closed captioning click on the link and you will have to open a new window on your computer to view both the closed captioning and the webinar together. We will also send out a close caption document with the recording of the call.
Z! Haukeness
57:55
Thanks Michael! Grateful for your ongoing work and for pointing out this connection. Appreciate the ways that you all have done this in WP4BL and brought large amounts of white folks in through your side by side work with folks of color.
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:01:38
https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=CFI-SURJ
Z! Haukeness
01:01:55
Thanks Ash! Misha, I might have put an old link in the doc. Do you have another link from them?
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:02:32
the link is working for me but i think it got messed up when i first put it in the chat. the one i just put in should work.
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:02:49
there are 126 people on the call
Z! Haukeness
01:02:51
Right now there are 127 people
Z! Haukeness
01:03:09
Right now there are 127
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:05:12
andrea, the no fascist usa book?
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:06:21
the other books that hilary and james have written?
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:07:15
Hilary Moore is the co-author of Organizing Cools the Planet: Tools and Reflections to Navigate the Climate Crisis (PM Press, 2011)
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:07:32
Hilary Moore is the co-author of Organizing Cools the Planet: Tools and Reflections to Navigate the Climate Crisis (PM Press, 2011)
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:07:59
James Tracy is the co-author of Hillbilly Nationalists, Urban Race Rebels and Black Power: Community Organizing in Radical Times the author of Dispatches Against Displacement: Field Notes From San Francisco’s Housing Wars, and the co-editor of Avanti Popolo: Italian-Americans Sail Beyond Columbus.
Z! Haukeness
01:11:03
Please feel free to start putting your questions in the chat!
Ally Drozd
01:14:01
Can Hilary and James please talk about the role of armed community defense in anti-racist efforts
Maggie Rice
01:15:03
Where do you see those broad coalitions working today, without watering down the movement, or making them overwhelmingly white?
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:16:00
thanks for the questions! i'm making note of them. keep them coming!
Carla F Wallace
01:16:58
What was the orientation to growing a sense of the mutual interest of white folks in challenging the politics and actions of the Klan, white supremacy—especially as it relates to class?
Laura Mills
01:17:03
how to build and sustain a rapid response network ?
Michael Novick
01:18:15
The magazine mentioned is "Turning The Tide" available on-line at www.antiracist.org (about last 15 years of 32 year publishing history, more back issues coming)
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:18:44
thanks michael!
James Tracy
01:19:00
Read it! Subscribe!
Michael Novick
01:19:43
thanks James
James Tracy
01:20:19
You were actually the first magazine to publish me back in the 1990s I just realized.
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:21:35
Where do you see those broad coalitions working today, without watering down the movement, or making them overwhelmingly white?
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:21:41
^there it is!
Michael Novick
01:22:30
One of the similarities of that period and now is the prevalence of white supremacist violence, not just the Greensboro killings, but the underground Order/White American Bastion in the Reagan era killing Jewish radio host, robbing Wells Fargo etc and giving $ to public white power groups. Despite Reagan in power, they were preaching and practicing racist "revolution." Could you comment?
Maggie Rice
01:25:12
is there a connection between John Brown Anti-Klan Committee and John Brown Gun Club, other than taking inspiration from their namesake?
James Tracy
01:26:02
For the JB vets here: have you had conversations to JBGC and related groups?
Michael Novick
01:26:32
JBAKC in L.A. did a bunch of women's clinic defense work and research into links between Christian and racist right
repost repost
01:26:36
Did you figure out the link b/w the pro-life movement and Reagan and "the right", like it is now.
Sarah Stockholm
01:26:48
Thanks for highlighting the use of cultural work in the movement. Can you lift up some examples of white anti-racist culture making that you see happening in our movement today? Music, art, performance, literature, poetry, etc…
Lisa Roth
01:28:28
Disagree about class analysis as a weakness. May I comment?
James Tracy
01:28:57
Z can you make it possible to Lisa to comment?
Z! Haukeness
01:29:24
Lemme see. I’ll see if I can figure it out
James Tracy
01:29:47
Lisa—just in case the tech stuff doesn’t work, write it here and we’ll up lift.
Mac Bakunin
01:30:03
James and Maggie: As a former JBGC organizer, I don't believe there is any connection between the two organizations, other than being inspired by ole Osawatomie
James Tracy
01:30:23
Thanks Mac!
Mac Bakunin
01:31:08
Also, happy to answer any JBGC questions you might have...
Michael Novick
01:31:22
'85-87 was the height of abortion clinic bombings. In an '84 paper for JBAKC we pointed to John Burt former FL KKK leader who then shifted to anti-abortion activism. 3 of his followers bombed several FL women's clinics
Lisa Roth
01:31:48
Because of settler colonialism we think white privilege is built into the class system and that the true working class of the USA is not white. As a result, our class analysis was anti-imperialist and anti-colonial. We didn’t “FAIL” to mention it. We reject that view.
Lisa Roth
01:32:54
BTW, that class analysis is still true today.
Carla F Wallace
01:33:02
Awesome question about the purity/elitist politics in too much of white anti racist work that keep people out rather than build what is needed.
Lisa Roth
01:34:11
We also say imperialism as internal not just external to USA
James Tracy
01:34:40
Yes, I misspoke there!
James Tracy
01:39:53
THANK YOU for bringing that Lisa.
Lisa Roth
01:40:33
thank you for allowing me to pipe up.
Michael Novick
01:40:38
Something else true of JBAKC because of the politics of both May 19 and Prairie Fire was a view about women's leadership in the struggle. Both groups, but esp PFOC were very supportive of kids collectively so that women did not have sole responsibility for kids individually and could exercise leadership. Both also had many queer members and leaders.
James Tracy
01:40:50
I love it when you pipe up!
James Tracy
01:41:53
Z anyway to bring Michael’s comments to the fore?
Michael Novick
01:42:52
I'm listening on phoe which is muted. You can just read the chat comments. Will they be shared later alomg with the reconrding?
James Tracy
01:43:01
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Z! Haukeness
01:44:14
Yes, the chat will come included in the video release
Michael Novick
01:46:07
Could you address the question or comment about the similarity about deadly white supremacist violence and politics of white power revolution then under Reagan and now under Trump? That is, getting "their guy" in the White House just whets their appetite.
Lisa Roth
01:47:09
The movement that started under Reagan is realizing its potential now.
Lisa Roth
01:47:42
Immigration law of 1924 was written by the KKK and that’s exactly what Stephen Miller wants to resurrect.
Lisa Roth
01:48:31
White supremacists have obtained more state power under Trump than they’ve had in the last 40 years.
Lisa Roth
01:49:22
Why did you list anti-Zionism as a weakness?
Carla F Wallace
01:49:39
Thank you Hilary for your share about mutual interest and what SURJ is moving around on the ground organizing that prioritizes majority white communities impacted by white supremacy and the maintenance of capitalism and imperialism—especially poor, working class, queer, people with disabilities and the South—the 50 year old call from the Black Liberation Movement for us to do this work—demands no less of us.
Linnie (she, her) Girdner
01:50:17
Thank you!!!
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:50:22
study guide: https://nofascistusabook.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/no-fascist-usa-discussion-guide.pdf
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:50:34
get the book: http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100689170
James Tracy
01:50:56
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Misha Heij-Mariano
01:51:18
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Misha Heij-Mariano
01:51:35
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01:51:48
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Michael Novick
01:52:22
is that wordpress site a place where other documents and comments, memories, etc could be uploaded?
Eliana Kaya
01:52:23
thank you all for this- helpful context in these times!
James Parker
01:52:34
This has been a great opportunity to hear and learn from you - thank you!
Ellie Stanley
01:53:13
Thank you!
Z! Haukeness
01:53:28
Next webinar on internationalism: https://www.facebook.com/events/801277793674360/
Maggie Rice
01:53:34
Thank you all!
Michael Novick
01:53:34
Thanks for the book!!
Veronica Pillar
01:53:55
Thank you!!
Misha Heij-Mariano
01:54:00
yayyy thank you!!!