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Scenario Planning: Preparing for an Unknown Future (May 6) - Shared screen with speaker view
Shelley Fishbach
35:51
Beth, you may have said this, but will you be sending the slides out?
Facilitator Beth Cousens
36:46
Shelley, no problem -
Facilitator Beth Cousens
36:57
We're going to make available the slides... and the recording and some additional resources.
Facilitator Beth Cousens
37:09
There will be a page on jewishtogether.org in the next few days.
Shelley Fishbach
38:02
Thank you!
Rachel Shtern
39:18
WHAT OTHER BIG CHANGES AROUND YOU WERE YOU NOTICING THAT ARE NOW ACCELERATING?
Derek Gale, JFed KC
39:33
Home delivery of everything
Stephen Rothschild
39:48
The postal service is dissolving
Debra Stein
39:51
comfort/discomfort regarding personal space
Amy Rubin
39:53
personal choice of how things are provided or delivered
Isaac Ellis
39:53
Zoom/Virtual Burn Out
Rebecca Wanatick
39:54
curbside pick up of food, medication, supplies
Vicky Farhi
39:54
More family dinners and family together time
Jeremy Grafstein
39:55
online commerce
Shelley Fishbach
39:55
Synagogues thinking out of the box
Marcie Schwartz
39:56
Much more walking outdoors
Steven Low
39:56
online learning/school
Deann Forman
39:57
No matter how much you do online, people still NEED direct human contact with each other
Kim Adler
39:57
Virtual events
Lauren Bergida-Morrison
39:59
Gig work
Joshua Finkelstein
40:00
Wearing masks
Gary Siepser
40:01
Collaboration between congregations and agencies.
Shira Hammerman
40:02
Conversations on work-life balance
Todd Polikoff
40:02
Baby Boomer and older generation now relatively fluent in virtually connecting
Jessica Hirsh
40:04
NEED less than we thought we did
Jenn Ross
40:05
How meetings are held- there had been a lot of teleconference as a back up- now zoom is the norm
Susan Katz
40:05
More virtual events
Stephen Blocher
40:05
even more political divide
Dena Scher
40:05
People's willingness to meet online
Shimon Levy
40:06
Awareness to public spaces
Sarah Segal
40:06
No plane travel
Joe Zweig
40:07
connections that aren’t limited by geography
Jordan Golin
40:08
Focus on screen time, distant from others
David Weisberg
40:09
People are much more willing to participate in all kinds of appointments (medical, counseling, etc) virtually
Linda Kislowicz
40:09
shopping on line
Michael Rawl
40:09
globalization of services - move away from local content generation
Bobbi Cohen
40:10
balancing income with safety
Vicky Farhi
40:11
connecting with friends online
Isaac Ellis
40:13
Volunteering
Kayla Kapen
40:13
Calling people more to check in with each other
Jodie Siff
40:14
buying less
Marcie Schwartz
40:14
Local drives
Corey Cutler
40:14
seeking spirituality
Paul Frishman
40:15
outreach opportunities
Linda Kislowicz
40:15
more virtual everything
Amy Rubin
40:15
Individualization
Robert Feinstein
40:17
more virtual events
alan margolies
40:17
how we will be able to do our fundraising if we cannot meet in person...losing the socialization
Stephen Rothschild
40:17
Universities and athletics at risk
Dori Kirshner
40:17
Being more open about mental health issues
Rabbi Arnie Samlan
40:19
seeing people who are looking to make meaning during the time
Shira Hammerman
40:19
Primacy of mental health initiatives
Todd Polikoff
40:20
The "Why" is now more identifiable
Lauren Bergida-Morrison
40:20
mindfullness
Dalit Horn
40:21
Are we trying to build new communities?
Linda Kislowicz
40:22
caring for people who live alone
Marcie Schwartz
40:22
Discovering hiking trails
Scott Ehrlich
40:23
People are now comfortable with zoom especially older adults
Idit Klein
40:23
appreciation of opportunities to help others
Judy Abelman
40:25
families not being abe lto be physically together
Gerard Badler
40:26
more Zoom dinners with friends
Scott Allen
40:26
Reconnecting with people we haven't spoken to or seen in a long time
Jon Spira-Savett
40:26
more tech and distance based Jewish learning of all ages
Shawn Landres
40:27
My Jewish choices were constrained by traffic. There may not be traffic but the same question of distance applies.
Sarah Rockford
40:27
hyper local focus in response to digital connectedness
Dr. Jaclynn Faffer
40:31
widening income gap; fear about leaving home; anxiety about future
Sarah Segal
40:32
More cooking at home
Robin Wishnie
40:33
online exhaustion.
Vicky Farhi
40:39
more focus on quality of home environment
James Cohen
40:43
virtual event burnout
Howard Goldberg
40:43
connecting electronicly
Paul Frishman
40:50
Working closely with collaborating organizations to best serve the community
Corey Cutler
40:51
further polarization of political parties
Bonnie Manello
40:59
more individuals willing to volunteer
Amy Rubin
41:00
erosion of the faith in expertise of professionals and inflated faith in the expertise of your friends or digital neighbors
Rayna Grossman
41:01
shifting in expectations for productivity - often unfairly and unreasonably
Corey Cutler
41:02
politicalization of Israel
Lori Samilson
41:04
dealing with technology
Rebecca Wanatick
41:04
prioritizing what’s important, identifying blessings in every day life
Tair Giudice
41:05
Education will be very different -
Jodie Siff
41:11
easier to log off and walk away from a conversation or connection if you don't want to engage
alan margolies
41:11
will we be able to travel to Israel?
Amy Rubin
41:12
Polarization
Julie Brodsky
41:25
How we learn - from adults to our kids
Paul Frishman
41:27
travel changes and how it effects our lives
Corey Cutler
41:33
mental health issues amplified by the pandemic for people of all ages
Dena Scher
41:39
Less division between work and "life" - also progressed a lot due to smartphones and now there is no separation
Kathryn Gonnerman
42:21
How we will engage physically -- kids learning to avoid hugging, no more shaking hands, etc.
Dalit Horn
42:26
How to get people to think beyond today? How do we raise the threshold for doing good beyond "stay home saves lives" ? What does that look like.
Corey Cutler
42:30
More fear in the world and the divisions it creates
Shawn Landres
42:59
Not sure about this graph. I think it assumes that 5.0% growth is normal. The re-forecasting is more about resetting expectations about what _should_ be, as opposed to what _will_ be.
Vicky Farhi
43:14
recreating synagogue communities in all aspects online
Shawn Landres
43:14
Yes - what Matt just said.
ANDREW LIPKIN
43:33
teaching to young children on line MUST include the participation of their parents to be successful. Many of us are doing on-line preschool classrooms, but are they effective
Rabbi Arnie Samlan
43:49
community members are making value judgements based on which Synagogues, schools, organizations were able to pivot to new approaches. and whether they've actively reached out to see how constituents are doing (synagogue I'm a member of hasn't)
Scott Ehrlich
44:55
how will we greet one another ..no more handshakes , hugs, etc
Jessica Hirsh
46:07
Increased vulnerability to unrelated challenges (natural disasters, security issues etc.)
Shawn Landres
48:30
There are ways in which our global Jewish community is even more connected than it has been in the past, because we can be together on a screen (even if we can’t be together in person, which actually has always been stratified by mobility & resources, like affording plane tickets).
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
50:41
And access to screens and internet and other methods of virtual connection plus the capacity to use those tools - causing (perhaps hidden?) division in our communities
Rachel Shtern
55:33
WHAT SCENARIOS ARE YOU ALREADY THINKING ABOUT? WHAT’S A FUTURE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE JUST6 MONTHS AGO?
Derek Gale, JFed KC
55:54
Very limited air travel for several years
Adam Greenman
55:57
Consolidating local agencies, closing facilities and programs
Kim Adler
55:58
That some or all of my staff may still be working from home
Amy Lavin
56:00
Region-wide preschool and tot shabbat
Sarah Rockford
56:00
Sustained digital programming arc for the next year
Kayla Kapen
56:01
Remote work and classes
Jennifer Sutton
56:01
How to conduct the High Holy Days online
Corey Cutler
56:02
Camp closures
Lauren Bergida-Morrison
56:04
On-line learning
Jessica Hirsh
56:04
No social gathering
ANDREW LIPKIN
56:04
campaign without events and no face to face soliciting
Elana Zimmerman
56:05
remote High holiday sevices
Barbara Gold
56:06
time of reopening and how including what programs/services
Eileen Freed
56:07
Communal integration
Lauren Bergida-Morrison
56:08
PPE for staff
Dori Kirshner
56:08
I think there will be a consolidation of certain niche org's in order to remain sustainable
Ali Hodin Baier
56:08
Inability to connect with homebound seniors in their home
Judy Abelman
56:08
most staff woking from home
Sara Sandhaus
56:09
Programs not being able to operate
Jeni Friedman
56:10
Cancellation of all in person events until there is a vaccine
Rebecca Wanatick
56:11
virtual high holidays
Jordan Golin
56:12
Drop in agency funding, even for very successful programs
Robert Scheinberg
56:13
communal singing is dangerous
Idit Klein
56:14
all fundraising through Zoom and phone
Vicky Farhi
56:14
creating community as virtual community
Joshua Finkelstein
56:14
Online high holidays
Linda Kislowicz
56:15
decline in community participation
Robert Feinstein
56:15
inability to have in-person programming/gatherings
Isaac Ellis
56:15
The make up of the staff and positions needed
Jessica Hirsh
56:15
No overseas travel
Shelley Fishbach
56:17
Not so long-term -- how to manage this summer - for working parents, families' mental health, kids' Jewish engagement
Robin Wishnie
56:17
The cancellation of camp and the economic impact of that on our JCC.
Stephen Blocher
56:18
remote HH services
Marcie Schwartz
56:19
Remote services
Linda Kislowicz
56:19
no or low travel
Lisabeth Lobenthal
56:19
do we need a building?
Kim Adler
56:20
Snowbirds not returning to Florida or vice versa
alan margolies
56:21
fundraising....but not in person/flexibility on staff
Debbie Stein
56:21
Travel complications, office being closed
Deann Forman
56:22
schools and early childhood will need fewer students with more teachers - that's prohibitively expensive. How can we make it happen?
Ali Hodin Baier
56:22
not having space in building for social distancing
Laurie Hasencamp
56:22
No travel, remote learning for schools, remote High Holidays, no donor face-to-face meetings
Jessica Hirsh
56:23
no summer camp
Shep Englander
56:23
How will "local community" be built without social gathering
Dena Scher
56:24
No incoming tourism to Israel
Jenn Ross
56:24
Total restructuring of all of our JCC programming.
Rebecca Wanatick
56:24
people with disabilities isolated at home with only virtual contact
Marcie Schwartz
56:24
hunger issues
Susan Katz
56:25
How do we gather people together and have a cohesive community. How to serve our seniors who rely on us for some personal contact. Fundraising.
Kathryn Gonnerman
56:25
Much less travel
Jory Hanselman
56:25
Mergers / acquisition/ will the organization survive
Judy Abelman
56:25
no travel - relationship to Israel
Corey Cutler
56:26
migration patterns of people leaving major cities for more rural areas
Sam Mogelonsky
56:26
how arts will operate online - for instance, online film festivals, online art exhibitions, online concerts. and how to collect ticket sales. how to build community without a common in person experience
Jon Spira-Savett
56:27
Being fundamentally hybrid forever
Howard Goldberg
56:28
doing everything remotely
Vicky Farhi
56:28
continuing to stay home and engage only online
Robert Feinstein
56:31
impact on giving
Eileen Freed
56:33
Significant decrease in campaign
Jeni Friedman
56:33
Not needing physical offices spaces
William Franklin
56:34
Maintaining community togetherness if isolation continues
Facilitator Mark Gurvis
56:35
providing counseling leveraging agency resources across multiple communities
Julie Brodsky
56:36
How do we bring families together when that's the main focus of our department - so what do we do?
Sarah Segal
56:36
No synagogue dues?
Joshua Finkelstein
56:39
mergers
Nathaniel Moldoff
56:39
Buildings sitting empty for long periods of time
Joe Zweig
56:41
defining community needs based on vulnerabilities and demographics
Lisabeth Lobenthal
56:41
exclusive remote work
alan margolies
56:41
what if we cannot travel
Paul Frishman
56:41
More financial distress in the community
Robin Wishnie
56:42
Fundraising when we can't sit together. Zoom is artificial.
Gary Bernstein
56:43
Camping options
Todd Polikoff
56:46
Consolidation of affiliate agencies, revisit revenue models and physical space needs
Susan Katz
56:47
How do we reach people who do not want to connect through virtual means
Maya Selber
56:48
Part of the year programming in person, part of the year online - changing every few weeks or months
Jeni Friedman
56:51
dues reduction for schools and synagogues because of online opportunities
Isaac Ellis
56:51
Vacations
Gary Siepser
56:52
Having only a fraction of the income. People afraid to gather. Huge increase in anti-Sem
Dena Scher
56:53
Relationships between the diaspora and Israel becoming completely online for a while
Shep Englander
56:54
Will economy make people more generous or less generous
Vicky Farhi
56:55
reinventing community online, figuring out how to create more relational online engagement
Maya Selber
56:58
What if un enemployment doesn’t bounce back?
Scott Allen
57:00
completely virtual vs traditional meetings or services.
Julie Brodsky
57:05
Preschools - what do those look like if kids can't be together/social distance
Vicky Farhi
57:05
enriching online religious school learning
Maria Dowling
57:37
Majority of staff working from home.
Vicky Farhi
57:39
are we heading towards another depression? how do we survive personally and as a community
Shelley Fishbach
58:06
Federations (at least mine) are notoriously bad at stopping to do anything.
Rebecca Wanatick
58:07
value of synagogue relationship if unable to come together in person(religious services, schools, simchas)
Paul Frishman
58:12
How are the agency endowments going to support our organization longterm now
Dena Scher
58:31
A philanthropy crisis that causes many organizations to close or philanthropy changing and becoming more focused and agile, allowing for different organizations to grow and others to close
Corey Cutler
58:48
continued rise of anti Semitism and backlash
Maria Dowling
58:48
Redesigning office space? How much space will we need?
Kathryn Gonnerman
59:10
More nimble programming with more iteration and direct feedback because all online
Dena Scher
59:13
co-working spaces closing
Shelley Fishbach
59:17
We'll need to balance maintaining trust while letting go of some initiatives
Kathryn Gonnerman
59:37
More multi-generational households?
Scott Allen
01:00:17
how much consolidation is needed and will take place. will people/organizations be willing to sacrifice their independence
Rebecca Wanatick
01:01:18
redesigning program spaces, including a hybrid model of in person and virtual opportunities
Linda Kislowicz
01:03:39
there is a paradox with more opportunity for direct connections and the need to collective plans
Vicky Farhi
01:04:53
when people can come out of their homes, will they desire community more? will they prefer the ease of accessing services and classes remotely or will they want the in person connection
Amy Rubin
01:05:14
What will "safe" feel like
Rachel Shtern
01:05:18
WHAT CHOICES ARE ON YOUR MIND? WHAT KIND OF ISSUES/QUESTIONSARE YOU MOST HOPING TO ADDRESSWITH THIS APPROACH?
R' Mordechai Harris (CJE - Dallas)
01:05:41
There's a significant risk of increased tunnel vision as the natural chance interactions are limited, and we each experience only the limited self-selected groups that we consciously opt in to.
Howard Goldberg
01:05:45
when and how do we start gathering again?
Linda Kislowicz
01:05:47
will the increase in participation on line that some are reporting continue? will people will willing to pay for things that they are accessing?
Amy Lavin
01:05:52
thoughtful ways to start 'side bet' conversations with peers in the community
Adam Greenman
01:05:55
How far do I push radical change? What if our Board/community is not ready?
Lisabeth Lobenthal
01:06:07
safety for mass gatherings, ethical liability
Isaac Ellis
01:06:08
How do we (Federation) best help the community and the organizations while they navigate this new future?
Stacy Kamisar
01:06:08
How to create/nurture community, build connections while we are apart
Steve Gold
01:06:11
Will a game book be viable to all?
Dena Scher
01:06:13
How to I react to the uncertainty re: philanthropy? Do I close programs or not?
Jennifer Sutton
01:06:21
How do you handle the high holy day appeal during Yom Kippur when we cannot handle money that day. We normally do fold over tabs. Online pledges? How?
Rebecca Wanatick
01:06:21
buy in from the community of lay leaders and staff
Bobbi Cohen
01:06:22
Can we continue to receive donations from nonmembers as we have in the past if our High Holiday services are online?
ANDREW LIPKIN
01:06:29
for those of us with multiple agencies, which programs and services will continue in the future is a big question, which relates to staffing and dollars
Amy Bardack
01:06:36
Is the process to first understand the external conditions and then next go through specifics (organizational downsizing/ consolidation; new innovation etc)
Robert Feinstein
01:06:50
how, in practice, do we develop into this type of more resilient, adaptable organization?
Judy Abelman
01:06:57
Role of federations / autonomy of local organizations
Bobbi Cohen
01:06:57
If we hold services in person, will people be comfortable attending?
Sam Mogelonsky
01:07:02
will the community continue to support the arts? will they pay for online programming?
Robert Scheinberg
01:07:12
Of the various motivations for being part of a synagogue community: what endures, what vanishes, and what is transformed?
Dena Scher
01:07:14
Do we go back to our offices? Do we go back to in-person meetings? When?
Kathryn Gonnerman
01:09:03
How can we harness this opportunity to make programs and services more inclusive?
Dori Kirshner
01:09:29
AMEN, Kathryn
Dena Scher
01:10:19
How do we go back to in-person activities without risking total exclusion of at-risk populations in our communities?
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
01:10:21
How do we balance the load of the work of community so that no person/core group is being overwhelemed? How do we encourage and support our community members to not just be consumers of the incredible efforts we are making, but also co-creators?
Jeni Friedman
01:11:15
What happens to programs where travel to Israel is central to the program concept and that is no longer possible? What happens to Israel as a central factor in Jewish identity if going there is not feasible?
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
01:11:17
*overwhelmed
Rachel Shtern
01:15:31
https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-42/2/Scenario%2520Planning%2520Critical%2520Uncertainties%2520Exercise%2520Instructions.pdf?v=1588705246
Rebecca Wanatick
01:57:36
Just confirming that if we typed into the Google doc we do not need to email notes.
Kim Adler
01:58:00
I can’t hear Beth
Eileen Freed
01:58:17
I can hear her
William Franklin
01:58:21
Yasher Koach!!
Kathryn Gonnerman
01:58:56
Thank you all for taking this leap! We appreciate you doing something new, and it was really nice to think about something a ways in the future
Rachel Shtern
01:58:57
scenarioplanning@jewishtogether.org
Eileen Freed
01:59:25
Kol Hakavod - great experiment
Lauren Bergida-Morrison
01:59:44
Well done - highly valuable exercise and look fwd to next steps.
Rebecca Wanatick
02:00:14
Loved this, but it’s challenging to just ask questions and not anticipate what ifs.
Bonnie Manello
02:00:17
great job in putting this together
Dena Scher
02:00:57
to Jewish life and to Israel
Facilitator Beth Cousens
02:01:12
Rebecca - totally. and, it's a good exercise! like, good for our brains.
David Black
02:01:36
I can’t unmute
Jordan Golin
02:01:41
we can't unmute
Rachel Shtern
02:01:47
its fixed
Facilitator Beth Cousens
02:02:44
all - thanks so much for the feedback. we are going to make some shifts before tomorrow's workshop. if you have suggestions, we welcome them (example - helpful to hear that smaller groups were better)
Deann Forman
02:05:05
NYC local travel on public transit is a hot zone!
Facilitator David Gartner
02:06:23
Group 15
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
02:06:52
Right, and peoples' access to different kinds of transport, with some safer than others is also a factor for communities going forward when we think about reopening communities/programming
Derek Gale, JFed KC
02:07:29
These were questions raised from Group 15, per David Gartner's comment: What will the work week look like (hours & work/life balance shifts, with child care and school factoring in)? Will there be a divide between parents who work and non-parents, or a shift in what people can do?
Jon Spira-Savett
02:07:38
It is so helpful to have a national convening to point to as our local Boards wrestle with what to do now. I think the biggest dangers are (a) trying to open up too quickly vs taking the weeks we need to test restarting things and (b) helping stressed leaders and Boards learn ways to keep their eyes on 1-2 years in a big frame and not just this September in a technical way.
Deborah Gonzalez
02:09:28
Per Todd Polikoff, how do we "assert our relevance?" As a way to keep donors engaged.
Sarah Segal
02:09:45
at the end of our group, we raised the issue of potential increasing divisions between the Orthodox and non Orthodox
Daniel Chejfec
02:10:04
people looking for more intimate settings to connect? more narrowly defined by interests?
Barbara Gold
02:12:03
I think one more factor to consider for JCCs is the % of revenue from each type of programming such as Early Childhood, Camp, Fitness etc.
Adam Greenman
02:12:30
Will take to my Board the idea around hedging versus betting the farm.
Rachel Shtern
02:12:31
ONE THING I LEARNED (OR UNLEARNED) IN THE COURSE OF TODAY.
Beverly Woznica
02:12:31
Might we see some significant demographic shifts from big cities to suburbs and beyond. People in search of open spaces, lower cost of living and social distance and esp with more opportunities to work remotely.
Jenn Ross
02:12:32
It was positive to think about a 24 month scenario instead of having to continuously focus on the next week, month, three months, etc. I learned a lot of other valuable ideas as well.
Derek Gale, JFed KC
02:12:42
Saw in the chat someone mention something about the concept of 'ethical liability'--I think that's a great thing for all of us to consider as we move forward
Amy Rubin
02:12:43
Just ask questions... Don't try to problem solve right off the bat
Dena Scher
02:12:47
I learned that we need to think about liability when we talk about going back to in-person activities
Sarah Segal
02:12:48
I loved the idea of bringing the given broad question to an even higher level question
William Franklin
02:12:49
I realized better the power of collaborative thinking
Rebecca Wanatick
02:13:00
We raised the concern over everyone wanting to fundraise at the same time when we “re-open” and the capacity of our community to support it, or will it alienate everyone?
Vicky Farhi
02:13:02
appreciated the process to explore the situation
Bobbi Cohen
02:13:03
This has expanded my horizons on the topic. The process was good, and the break room experience was great (at least in the room I was in).
Isaac Ellis
02:13:07
Thinking even bigger with some of these questions, and asking Do we as humans have the capacity to actually make these changes?
Daniel Chejfec
02:13:09
didn't expect answers but the process allowed me to become more comfortable with lack of control
Joe Zweig
02:13:10
for board: how can we collaborate with the larger community through technology
Idit Klein
02:13:13
consider and hold multiple options
Robin Wishnie
02:13:17
Not everyone is convinced that the future will be different from the past. Some believe we can "go back" to the way things were before the pandemic.
Sarah Rockford
02:13:19
Reorienting action in this crisis to accommodate longterm considerations… expanding the planning, thinking timeline. What creative solutions will emerge from this crisis that will endure in our organization.
Susan Katz
02:13:20
I loved thinking more about the questions and less about a solution, it opened up my mind up to getting a little more comfortable with the uncertainty
Vicky Farhi
02:13:24
I will bring the bigger pictures to look at to my organization
Eileen Freed
02:13:25
Ask questions. Also appreciated the various ways to “bet” on the future.
Robert Feinstein
02:13:30
the need to think about multiple possible scenarios, which requires acknowledging the amount of uncertainty we face
Julie Brodsky
02:13:37
Need to just ask questions first - can't solve anything yet
Bobbi Cohen
02:13:55
It also reinforced the idea that we don’t have the answers at this point.
Dana Vizner
02:14:14
Reminder that there is value in investing in strategic disciplined approach to the uncertain future
Karen Hochhauser
02:14:23
always be considering/thinking from your donors view point. What is of value to them? If you can meet that, then the likelihood that they will remain donors is higher.
Shep Englander
02:14:38
This is a different way to think. And the right frames and tools for this unpredictable times. Thanks for the thought leadership
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
02:15:36
I would love to have a conversation about ethical liability specifically.
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
02:16:29
It would be great to have textual learning from Jewish texts on these topics as well
Daniel Chejfec
02:17:17
are we getting the file with the power point?
Rebecca Wanatick
02:17:24
Thank you!
Shep Englander
02:17:25
Thanks to everyone!
Julie Brodsky
02:17:31
Thank you!
Rabbi Rayna Grossman
02:17:33
Thank you
Shira Hammerman
02:17:35
Thank you!
Ali Hodin Baier
02:17:36
Very helpful - thank you
Marcie Schwartz
02:17:38
Thank you! Very valuable.
Bobbi Cohen
02:17:39
Thank you!
Eileen Freed
02:17:43
Thank you.
Dena Scher
02:17:45
Thank you! This was so helpful
Russell Willens
02:17:46
thank you
R' Mordechai Harris (CJE - Dallas)
02:17:47
Thank you all :)