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Apologies again for missing beginning of meeting. I think our goal here is to validate for propose changes to this linear workflow model. I believe the linear model may not serve us all as well as a maturity model approach. Aligned to the business strategy element topic, please see this Technology Business Management (TBM) maturity model. If we can do something similar for us in TOIP, then we may have a more practical way to help define what an ecosystem is at a minimum and how it could mature over time. https://www.actiac.org/draft-tbm-maturity-model