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Amin Hacha
53:07
hi all from Beirut / Lebanon
Pamela Smith
53:51
Welcome to the Enhancing the Effectiveness of ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model ICANN68 PREP WebinarAll chat sessions follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior:https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Pamela Smith
53:59
Interpretation for the webinar will include all 6 UN languages and will be conducted using both Zoom and the remote simultaneous interpretation (RSI) platform operated by Congress Rental Network (CRN). See instructions below:1. Download the Congress Rental Network mobile app to your phone or cut and paste the mobile browser linka. Mobile App Download: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-GET-APPb. Mobile Browser Link: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-PREP2. Enter the Session Token: ICANN68-PREP3. For Reference in case needed - Participation How-To Guide: https://68.schedule.icann.org/participation-tools
Pamela Smith
54:08
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Pamela Smith
54:16
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Pamela Smith
55:33
Welcome to the Enhancing the Effectiveness of ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model ICANN68 PREP WebinarAll chat sessions follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior:https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Pamela Smith
55:43
Interpretation for the webinar will include all 6 UN languages and will be conducted using both Zoom and the remote simultaneous interpretation (RSI) platform operated by Congress Rental Network (CRN). See instructions below:1. Download the Congress Rental Network mobile app to your phone or cut and paste the mobile browser linka. Mobile App Download: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-GET-APPb. Mobile Browser Link: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-PREP2. Enter the Session Token: ICANN68-PREP3. For Reference in case needed - Participation How-To Guide: https://68.schedule.icann.org/participation-tools
Pamela Smith
55:56
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Pamela Smith
56:05
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Pamela Smith
01:00:37
Interpretation for the webinar will include all 6 UN languages and will be conducted using both Zoom and the remote simultaneous interpretation (RSI) platform operated by Congress Rental Network (CRN). See instructions below:1. Download the Congress Rental Network mobile app to your phone or cut and paste the mobile browser linka. Mobile App Download: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-GET-APPb. Mobile Browser Link: https://urlgeni.us/ICANN68-PREP2. Enter the Session Token: ICANN68-PREP3. For Reference in case needed - Participation How-To Guide: https://68.schedule.icann.org/participation-tools
Nadira Al Araj
01:01:05
<Question> Why under the current MSM, community leaderships or members are allowed to belong to too many different SOs/ACs?<Question>
Matthew Shears
01:01:36
could we go to the next slide thanks
Pamela Smith
01:01:57
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Pamela Smith
01:02:04
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Liz Williams
01:03:34
Sound quality is very poor and is now lost.
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:37
jitter on audio
stephanieeperrin
01:03:43
We can now
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:44
now it is better
Kaveh Ranjbar
01:03:53
Eleeza you do NOT have to apologise, it is us who have invaded your children’s space because of this situation.
Kaveh Ranjbar
01:04:30
I for one, really appreciate your efforts and flexibility to accommodate this work from your space.
Manal Ismail
01:04:42
Indeed Kaveh .. well said ..
MAEMURA Akinori
01:04:42
+1 to Kaveh :-)
Lito Ibarra
01:04:53
Right!
Susan.Payne
01:05:05
agree Kaveh
Mary Wong
01:05:14
@Kaveh, @Akinori, @Lito and all - thank you for your kind words. I think all of us in org and the community appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding!
Chris Disspain
01:05:27
:-)
Stephen Deerhake (.as; ccNSO Councillor)
01:05:35
+1 Kaveh
Riccardo Nanni
01:06:11
+1 Kaveh
Merike
01:06:26
Couldn’t agree more Kaveh and well said.
Pamela Smith
01:09:36
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Pamela Smith
01:09:44
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Mary Wong
01:10:24
You can find the public comment proceedings page, as well as the full paper that is being summarized in this presentation, here (public comment closes on 2 August): https://www.icann.org/public-comments/multistakeholder-model-next-steps-2020-06-04-en
Mary Wong
01:13:52
The Consensus Playbook originated in a request by the GNSO Council, under last year’s Additional Budget Request process. The complete Playbook was developed by an external vendor for the use of the whole community (as appropriate). It was circulated to all SOACs recently: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-4-consensus-playbook-21apr20-en.pdf
हरीश चौधरी (Harish Chowdhary)
01:19:25
There is ALAC session on UA
Jeffrey Neuman
01:19:55
<Question> The report assumes that achieving Consensus can be accomplished through the Consensus Playbook and PDP 3.0. It sort of brushes aside the notion of providing incentives to compromise and not rewarding those that stick to their siloed position. What work can be done to provide those incentives?</End Question>
Becky Burr
01:20:23
just noting the “Framework for Effective Recommendations” work that will feed into this work
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:20:44
<Question> Hi to all. Is there a simple list of bullets of specific proposals and/or initiatives to enhance MSM? A link, perhaps? Gracias
Becky Burr
01:20:44
public comment last November
Jonathan Zuck
01:21:24
+1 Jeff N
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:22:32
+1 @Jeff
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:23:29
@Jeff’
Chris Disspain
01:23:39
I’m not aware that people do belong to multiple SOs or ACs…
Chris Disspain
01:24:05
There might be the odd one or two but it’s not endemic AFAIK
Jeffrey Neuman
01:24:29
@Chris, yes. entities can be both ccTLDs and gTLDs (both with different interests)
stephanieeperrin
01:24:40
Chris, I think it is more common between NCSG and ALAC.
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:24:53
@Jeff’s point is particularly relevant, as it comes from someone that as Co Chair of a PDP knows well how hard it is to break non-consensus.
Donna Austin
01:25:08
Organisations are members of more than one SG or C in the GNSO, but can only vote in one.
Stephen Deerhake (.as; ccNSO Councillor)
01:25:08
+1 Chris. I can't see this as a major issue...
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:25:19
Multi-Membership may be applied by one Company which is then represented by different persons
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:25:44
Donna is correct
Harald Alvestrand
01:26:02
I don't see what external incentives (carrots) would help. There has to be an intrinsic reason why people see themselves better served by finding consensus than by continuing a standoff.
हरीश चौधरी (Harish Chowdhary)
01:26:04
<question> What are the steps taken to enhance the multistakeholder participation/model on Universal Acceptance<question>
Chris Disspain
01:26:10
All good points re multiple membership…I stand corrected..
Eleeza Agopian
01:26:19
Here’s the link to the Public Comment: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/multistakeholder-model-next-steps-2020-06-04-en
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:26:24
ok Thannks
Shiva Upadhyay
01:26:49
What Strategy ICANN planning to adopt to increase non English speaking people in ICANN activities?
Becky Burr
01:26:59
thanks Eleeza.
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix
01:27:38
all fine
Svitlana Tkachenko
01:27:40
yes
Shiva Upadhyay
01:27:41
ICANN May include other languages apart from current seven UN languages?
हरीश चौधरी (Harish Chowdhary)
01:28:50
thanks
avinash sood
01:29:31
what is the criteria to include any language in ICANN Activities
Betty Fausta
01:29:32
+1 Sheeva
Betty Fausta
01:29:45
shiva
Marita Moll
01:30:33
(question) In the two years of discussions, 21 issues were distilled to 6 issues. We now have 3. How can we avoid not dropping off the last 3 which are just as important (question)
Priyatosh Jana
01:30:35
+1
Jeffrey Neuman
01:30:41
<Question> We talk about increasing non-English languages, which is commendable. But these translation services have never been available in policy development processes, which is the heart of what ICANN is supposed to be facilitating. Are there any efforts to get translation services for the policy working groups as well?<End Question>
Chokri ben romdhane
01:30:59
did the work plan take in account reviewing working group outputs ? such atrt3 outputs
Judith Hellerstein
01:32:12
@diana Marita had also asked a question but it was skipped
Diana Middleton
01:32:27
Yes sorry we are getting to that. my apologies
Philippe Fouquart
01:32:41
Jeff's question can be taken boradly beyond the WGs
Jeffrey Neuman
01:33:27
@Philippe - Absolutely. We tend to provide translation services for plenaries, but not for actually working sessions whether that is the working groups, the councils, etc.
Jeffrey Neuman
01:35:16
<Question> With the recent reorganization, where does improving the multi-stakeholder model fall within ICANN Org's responsibilities? <End Question>
Nadira Al Araj
01:35:25
+1 Marita's question
Pamela Smith
01:35:46
kk
Philippe Fouquart
01:36:09
@Jeff Agree. And it also depends how much involved we'd like the non English speakers to get involved. Monitoring the activities vs getting involved (I'm oversimplifying obvisouly but you get the point - no simple solution here but certainly a rpoblem to consider)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:36:14
Thanks @Martin...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:36:43
well noted @Matthew...
Susan.Payne
01:36:48
<Question> regarding ATRT3 I noted that when you developed the next steps document you were relying on draft recommendations, e.g. on reviews. But the final recommendations differ greatly from the draft recommendations. How will you take that into account?
Judith Hellerstein
01:37:13
<comment>+1 Marita. While we are not dropping the other 3 issues, they seem to have lost priority and that is really sorry to hear <comment>
Jeffrey Neuman
01:37:20
Sorry, I was not implying that there was a lessening of priorities. Just wanted to know where it fell. Thanks for the response
Anne Aikman-Scalese
01:39:17
^QUESTION^ The Consensus Playbook indicates that it's important to limit the number of participants in PDP Working Groups in order to enhance effectiveness and work more quickly and efficiently. How does the work plan for the MSM Model propose to address this issue when individuals have expressly been included as "stakeholders" in internet policy apart from the existing constituencies and recognized stakeholder groups? ^QUESTION
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:39:35
The Board has been an active participant in all of the ATRT3 deliberations and activities... far beyond being mearly an observer/liaison.
BNouar morocco
01:40:07
《QUESTION》ICANN is mandate to act in a accordance with its Bylaws principales, especially the diversity like using multilanguise. why icann did never try to respect this principal within groups activities 《and question》.there's no initiative
Donna Austin
01:41:32
<Question> Given ICANN will not host another face-to-face meeting for at least 9 months, how will this effort be prioritised and progressed?
BNouar morocco
01:41:55
《question 》 why it can't be possible the adopt this principale in future WG activities《and question》.
Marita Moll
01:42:36
(comment) I think the community needs to know that all 6 priorities will stay in focus and on the table. There is no evolution if that does not happen (comment)
Jeffrey Neuman
01:42:36
<comment> @Anne has pointed out an inherent conflict in the policy process and achieving consensus. On the one hand we are striving to increase participation. On the other hand too much participation makes it difficult to achieve consensus on anything. This also ties hand in hand to the incentives to compromise. <End Comment>
Donna Austin
01:43:55
Agree with Jeff. It is a complex conundrum to find a solution that will assist the consensus model of policy development.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:44:16
To say the least @Donna
Nadira Al Araj
01:44:27
the language services here will be a great initiative for future integration
Mary Wong
01:46:58
@Maarten, yes, it will be part of the Board and org discussion with the community during the 3rd plenary session at ICANN68
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:48:47
+1 @Jeff, but <comment> but we should not limit the role of individual participants/stakeholders. Maybe these could be the freest-thinking people in ICANN. And I think that is a good think. In fact, I think allowing the perspectives of individuals in global policy-making is perhaps ICANN’s MSM’s greatest innovation. In a covid and post covid world where states are reasserting themselves, keeping the role of individuals is more important than ever.
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:49:10
thing not think (excuse typo)
Jeffrey Neuman
01:49:20
@Javier - Exaclty
Mary Wong
01:49:26
Reminder again that public comments close on 2 August - this is an extended (60 day) proceeding that hopefully will allow many community members and groups to participate.
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:49:28
cool
Maxim Alzoba
01:49:31
individuals could create a group if charter permits
Danko Jevtović (Board)
01:49:32
+1 @Javier
Alberto Soto
01:49:33
Perfect in Spanish!!!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:49:37
well stated @Javier
Jeffrey Neuman
01:49:40
Thank you!
Francis Olivier CUBAHIRO
01:49:59
thank you
Matthew Shears
01:50:03
Thanks everyone!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:50:07
ALAC and At-Large has used these excellent Languages Services for years, they are excellent
Javier Rua-Jovet
01:50:10
¡gracias a todos!
Vitor Horita
01:50:11
thanks!! excelente meeting !!
Olga Kyryliuk
01:50:12
Thanks everyone!
Zakir S
01:50:18
thank you all.
Alberto Soto
01:50:20
Thanks!!!
Yannick Amale
01:50:22
<Question> How does ICANN intend to ensure balanced regional and cultural representativeness within the multi-stakeholder system, knowing that many regions or countries are not or not very represented in different work groups ?
Kristina Hakobyan
01:50:24
thanks everyone)
León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
01:50:24
Good call. Thanks everyone
Lito Ibarra
01:50:25
Thanks everyone- Gracias!
Shiva Kanwar
01:50:25
Thank you!!
Danko Jevtović (Board)
01:50:33
thank *.*
Dave Kissoondoyal
01:50:33
Thanks and bye to all
Yaovi Atohoun
01:50:34
Thanks and bye
Roberto
01:50:35
Thanks all!
Syuzan Marukhyan
01:50:36
Thanks everyone
Jeffrey Neuman
01:50:37
Great job!
Hamza Salami
01:50:37
Thank you everyone
Hanan Khatib
01:50:38
thank you all
Anne Aikman-Scalese
01:50:41
Thank you all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:50:42
Bye for now... and THANLKS
Svitlana Tkachenko
01:50:46
thank you!
Manal Ismail
01:50:47
Thanks everyone ..
Shiva Upadhyay
01:50:47
Thank You!
Joan Kerr
01:50:47
Thanks
Eric Mwobobia (ICANN Fellow)
01:50:47
Thank yo