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Lonnie Chafin's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Lonnie Chafin
11:33
It's good to use the chat function as we go along to answer questions or hear your experiences.
Wayne Fresen
14:25
not our church
Janelle Henson
14:37
EFT at Rock Falls
cdow1
14:57
Yes at Rochelle
Hanse
16:25
We use Paypal and are looking at https://get.tithe.ly/ to help individuals give to the church
Hanse
16:57
Kaneville UMC
Sara Mikuta
16:58
FUMC - Western Springs
Bob Garvin
17:00
our
Toni Lucas
17:02
Albany UMC
Sara Mikuta
17:03
We use Vanco
Becky
17:05
Geneva uses Elexio
Jim Fu
17:08
Elmhurst: Christ - no online giving
David Poust
17:11
Not at Walnut UMC
keate
17:12
Tampico/Harmon no online giving
Tammy Scott
17:13
Vanco @ Sugar Grove UMC
Katherine Paisley
17:13
Vanco -- but we have struggle getting some of our folks to sign up.
dougnewman
17:17
Frankfort UMC
stephanieclaussen
17:18
Hebron UMC - no online giving
Deb
17:18
Grace UMC Lake Bluff - Vanco
Toni Lucas
17:18
We just opened a Pay Pal account.
Pastor David
17:18
Our Saviour's in Schaumburg. We use ACH.
cdow1
17:19
We do EFT through the bank and a little bit through ShareFaith
dawn
17:22
Freeport Faith - ACH giving only
Donna
17:22
Channahon UMC uses electronic
loisv
17:23
we use vanco at CaryUMC
WaltR
17:24
we use vanco and e-giving
Bob Garvin
17:25
Our Saviors uses an offsite bank for our ACH
eander’s iPad
17:26
sterling wesley
Amy Lane
17:27
First Park Ridge we use EFT and PayPal
Esther’s iPad
17:29
UMC GENEVA
peggy george
17:31
Lockport First
Lazette Saunders
17:32
Gorham UMC uses Givelify, PayPal and working or Zelle
Rich Wagner
17:35
Rich Wagner Olympia Fields, Southern District, Giving through PayPal
Linda Cheeseman
17:44
Cheeseman- Reynolds- no online giving
Karen
17:44
Reynolds
Beverly Dukes
17:45
East Side United Methodist Church, just set up a Paypal account
Toni Lucas
18:03
Breeze?
Daniel Diss
18:05
Glen Ellyn First: Giving+ App (smart phones)
Donna
18:20
can you speel that?
Nancy Blade
18:26
Kaneville has a PayPal account now, but also encouraging pay bill through banks.
Jason Tews
18:29
Glen Ellyn Methodist - we use Vanco
dougnewman
18:31
Frankfort UMC
Garry’s iPad
18:38
Garry Gbur. Hazel Crest community UMC tried Vanco but elderly did not embrace
Donald Plock
19:15
Donald Plock-German German Valley/Winnebago - No On.ine
Rich's iPad
19:20
Rich Ottens, Hanover UMC, no ON LINE giving.
Melinda Kirby
19:32
fumc, arlington Heights. business manager. Vanco services. we also use vanco through our ACS database
Cerna Rand
19:33
Prince of Peace United Methodist Church in Elk Grove we use EFT and Vanco
Diane
20:00
https://www.breezechms.com
Luther Mason
20:02
We haven't as yet put in place any electronic giving for our membership as of yet, various challenges in our community at Greenstone UMC, but we are looking at electronic giving sources for our Restoration Project.
cheyob
20:03
We just signed up for this and it works very well,
zsf3
21:18
Hinsdale uses ACH and online via Elexio online. We did the Elexio conversion last year. All of our giving and church memebership records were converted to Elexio. It was a major conversion--so, not just a quick giving for this crisis.
pastormelissa
21:37
Cornerstone Church Elgin we use Vanco
Lloyd Unger
21:45
Are these fees for Credit Card or ACH? (Vanco is very different for each)
Sara Mikuta
22:43
So they can set up regular payments?
WaltR
23:06
e-giving provides same capability for donations
Siegfried Schwirblat
23:15
Orangeville UMC Do you need to be online or can you us a phone.
Cerna Rand
23:21
Credit Card giving has a charge.
Pastor David
23:28
Another great one is GIVLIA
David Poust
23:50
Is cost of Breeze comparable to tithe.ly
Rich's iPad
23:50
I don't have enough people on the web to make it cost effective. The Congregants are for the most part 65 or older and our giving is the normal path.
Hanse
24:22
That I think is the challenge with older members.. mail or an ACH might be best for them
Wayne Fresen
25:04
is the 2.9% for credit card only. confirm not bank deduction
Lonnie Chafin
25:07
we want to encourage people to get to ach. once somone is set up as a recurring amount - meaning you might meet with the 65 year old - they will be set.
Janelle Henson
25:44
Vance is 1%
cdow1
25:48
How do you reconcile the automatic giving through Breeze if you're using it in conjunction with QuickBooks? I'm assuming you can print out weekly reports of giving?
Sara Mikuta
25:48
Our church is about 75% using Vanco and we are older. It's how you sell it; this virus may make it easier to get others to do it.
Hanse
25:50
Agreed,, with the ACH for older members
Hanse
26:18
so 600 a year
Janelle Henson
26:18
how fast are deposits transferred to account with breeze?
Wayne Fresen
26:18
That's ok I can search for fees. keep going
Dean
26:48
NCS is $20.00 per month
zsf3
28:02
Breeze looks very expensive at 3.1% for ACH...definitely do it directly. Virtually no cost.
Tammy Scott
28:10
Older/non web enabled members might also be more comfortable with having their bank draft a check and have that sent to the church every month…no cost to the church for this!
Daniel Diss
28:21
Does Breeze have a smartphone app?
Sara Mikuta
28:34
What's a younger member :)
Larry
28:53
Christ UMC - Algonquin... we are an existing Vanco customer for EFT and have just added the Give+ set of apps & website functions. 1.9% + 0.25 /transaction. We also use PowerChurch which integrates with Vanco...
Janelle Henson
29:02
thank you
Diane
30:01
Breeze smartphone app information: https://www.breezechms.com/app
Chris Walters
30:03
I have talked to Giving Fire. They provided this quote to me:
Chris Walters
30:11
Option AYou pick up $20 of the $49 in monthly feesReduced processing of 2% CC + 1% ACHMonth to month contractOption BNo monthly fees for first 3 months2% Flat for CC and ACH.1 year contract
Chris Walters
32:14
The UMF may test Option A where the UMF subsidizes the monthly fee for some period of time at the $20 level to get new churches to e-giving going. Interested? Email me: cwalters@umfnic.org
Sara Mikuta
32:22
Reporting?
Laura Wilson
32:55
Is this being recorded? Sorry, of course this would be the time when multiple urgent calls come in :)
Diane
34:03
Yes please make sure y'all are muted to ensure a good recording :O)
Lonnie Chafin
34:04
This is being recorded and will be placed on the NIC website www.umcnic.org
zsf3
35:04
Elexio is $0 monthly, 3% credit card and .75% ACH with 30 cents per transaction. Can lower CC costs to 1.99% with $49/month fee. So, depends on your volume. If you have a financial secretary that can work with givers and set up ACH directly with the giver's bank, can do for virtually no cost. Best for longer term.
Hanse
37:53
That's how I setup the Kaneville UMC - non-profit.. We are looking at putting the paypal button on our website
Hanse
37:57
Venmo
Jaeeon Cho
38:00
venmo
Diane
38:01
Venmo
Jaeeon Cho
38:05
Zelle
Cerna Rand
38:07
Venmo
Jim Fu
38:18
How does Paypal record the giver's identity?
Larry
38:21
Christ UMC - Algonquin... we tried to use PayPal, but our bank account is a business account and they are not set up for Paypal (WinTrust branch)
Cerna Rand
39:13
Our church is using Servant Keeper. Should we change to ACH?
Janelle Henson
40:14
I use Venmo for personal use all the time. is it only able to be used if members have the app?
Joshua Rollins
40:38
Does the member have to create a Tithe.ly account? Or can the member give through the Tithe.ly text without creating an account?
WaltR
41:03
any comments on e-giving
Janelle Henson
42:51
Thoughts on go fund me charity? free plan and 1.9% and .30 and they use PayPal giving on back end
Wayne Fresen
42:58
Please forward chat texts for reference. North Northfield
Hanse
43:11
We've encouraged our members to use the bank's bill pay system to give to the church
Hanse
43:23
That's one loud radiator..
Fay
44:26
Thanks what we do at Hemenway
Lonnie Chafin
44:31
https://jctaccounting.com/2020/03/17/the-whys-and-hows-of-electronic-giving/ here's a video to share with your committee to encourage their adoption of this system.
Tammy Scott
44:50
I have shared links to our e-giving option (Vanco) on facebook during livestream worship and every email I sent to folks. We have seen a 300% increase in our monthly online giving. I also mailed a real letter at the beginning of the shelter in place order/no in-person worship order with directions for online giving and an envelope for giving by check. We have seen more mailed in giving than normal and people are using those giving envelopes!
Esther’s iPad
44:51
I do it through my bank for free. my bank sends a check to the church
Lonnie Chafin
45:12
if you use Wordpress for your website, they have the ability to add a giving button, once you set up the church account.
Melinda Kirby
45:20
We have quite a few people who do what Harry is talking about. The bank sends us the check. No cost to the church and minimal cost to the giver.
Hanse
45:49
Will you send out the document ?
Lonnie Chafin
46:04
Facebook will also allow giving during livestreams, if you facebook account is registered as a nonprofit. there's some steps in getting that status.
Sara Mikuta
46:43
Only issue now is someone needs to deposit the check and with people not in the office, it delays the availability of the cash. That's something we can use for getting people to give online or electronically
Lonnie Chafin
48:13
I agree with Harry, it's important to talk about how the church is ongoing during this time. naming what the church is doing - how we are caring for members. People are looking for a way to care for others in this time, and knowing the church is doing that will deepen their commitment to the church
Jaeeon Cho
48:23
Please scroll down! :)
Toni Lucas
49:02
No
Toni Lucas
49:17
No
Cerna Rand
49:19
No.
Jaeeon Cho
49:53
Thanks!
Cerna Rand
49:57
Yes.
Jaeeon Cho
49:59
Yes! Works! Thank you!
zsf3
50:05
what;'s the link for the generosity slide?
Hanse
50:45
unemployement
Jim Fu
50:57
Can you make this document available on the NIC website?
Lonnie Chafin
51:49
We will place this document on the NIC website as well
David’s iPad
52:11
GoFundMe is a great website; but normally there is an end date to the giving. The solutions we went over do not have end dates. If you are looking to do a quick fundraising goal, I totally recommend GoFundMe.
Jim Fu
52:11
Thank you!
David’s iPad
52:18
Janelle, yes, you have to have the Venmo app to use it.
Lonnie Chafin
52:19
another tip I've heard from others: sending envelopes addressed to the church with a tactful letter saying this is a way to support the church while sheltering may enable some check writers to participate while away.
Katherine Paisley
55:43
Harry, can you send this out to us through the AC?
Katherine Paisley
58:29
Lonnie and Anne Marie, can you send all of us Harry's printed suggestions?
Bob Garvin
59:14
we Already have an SOS fund for this reason.
Lonnie Chafin
01:00:27
the limitation about collecting money through the mail is that someone needs to be at the church to open them. and be sure that the internal controls are in place - like if there aren't two counters there are copies made and other tasks that assures the church all the funds are accountably managed.
dougnewman
01:00:59
HARRY:
zsf3
01:01:28
can you just send the link via chat
Lonnie Chafin
01:01:33
harry1005@gmail.com
goodweave2
01:01:42
harry, can you post this at umc weekly email
Cerna Rand
01:01:43
Thank you, Harry!
Hanse
01:01:44
harry1005@gmail.com - that correct email?
David’s iPad
01:01:55
Yes Hanse
Lonnie Chafin
01:02:38
yes…harry1005@gmail.com
rich fassig
01:02:49
how can we access the recoring of thid
Sara Mikuta
01:03:03
Thank you
Linda Hensgen - Antioch
01:03:20
Great info. Thanks.
Fay
01:03:20
Char can I have your email address -Fay -missjohnie@aol.com
Daniel Diss
01:03:23
Please clarify the payment of employees during this time .. if you can.
moon
01:03:31
Thank you
Lonnie Chafin
01:03:41
This recording will be on the NIC website at https://www.umcnic.org/financeadministration
hyosunoh
01:03:48
Can I get Harris’ note?
Jaeeon Cho
01:03:48
Thank you so much for all the insights and information! Thank you!
Toni Lucas
01:04:09
If anyone else is from a small town — our bank has stepped up to help us. People can go to the drive up or night deposit and write our church name on the envelope and the bank will deposit it in our account.
Janelle Henson
01:04:18
I don’t see that option on my end. can you save chat for us?
Robin
01:04:37
Thanks for the information.
pastormelissa
01:04:47
Hi this is___from___church. We are contacting our members to see how you are doing right now and to see if there is anything the church can do for you right now during this crisis. How can we help each other?
pastormelissa
01:05:46
Then you listen connect them to online service or prayer or study that you have available. How do you want to continue giving talk about the services
pastormelissa
01:07:33
we need everyones help to serve give two goals corona virus help. The general fund for staffing etc. end by thanking them. Tell folk you will follow up on their concerns. Here is how you can reach me. An example from another conference.
David Poust
01:08:33
Thanks for all the useful info!!!
Daniel Diss
01:08:55
Hard to predict
Toni Lucas
01:08:57
I don’t know percentage, but I see a potential to bring our church down if this goes on too long.
Deb Evans
01:09:11
Difficult to predict
pastormelissa
01:09:30
This is hard to predict.
Hanse
01:09:39
Same, really hard to say at this point
Hanse
01:10:05
that is challenging in that if they give more early, we have less in the latter half of the year
V.Fields
01:10:36
From I see a big drop-off. It's too early to tell. I'm gessing a 30% drop off.
geoff
01:11:43
I agree on a touch base
goodweave2
01:11:43
our church building has a locked mailbox, attached to the building. i plan to let people know that they can mail in their offering, and it will be checked regularly
goodweave2
01:12:13
I plan to reach as many of our members as we can; email, facebook , phone calls,
Steve George
01:12:15
God is good all the time all the time God is good. We all still need to know that has not changed. He loves us thru this difficult time
Jessie
01:12:20
Check in in a couple of weeks. What's working for your church? Share ideas...
Donna
01:12:34
Donna from Channahon - I would like to get back in a couple of weeks.
Cerna Rand
01:13:22
I like the idea of checking back next week. This is very helpful for me. Thank you, Lonnie!
Katherine Paisley
01:13:36
We just put all of our folks in small caring circles of 6-8 with a leader who will check in weekly with each person. Showing caring and creating connection seems vital to having a church at the end of this.
pastormelissa
01:13:39
I agree that getting together again is helpful. Just as local church leaders need to connect, conference leadership should connect with local leaders.
Lloyd Unger
01:14:11
We are "live streaming" and Zoom Meeting now for 2 weeks but only a few people have mailed in checks or added to our Vanco so far. And we have already lost our building usage revenuesFYI - We learned that when we set up contribution categories in Vanco this split the amounts in transaction / reports and also generated separate transaction fees since people were putting in separate amounts. So when we put in a separate category for helping cover transaction costs, it generated an added fee, losing some of the value. Getting fancy costs!
David’s iPad
01:15:09
Lloyd that is valuable information. Thank you for sharing.
Dean
01:16:24
NCS giving is another good on-line giving serice we have used for years. They are only $20.00 per month. Thay have all the same services as Vanco.
Janelle Henson
01:16:58
Thank you!!!!
Toni Lucas
01:17:13
Thank you, everyone.
Cerna Rand
01:17:15
Thank you! God bless us all and the whole wide world with health and peace. Our God is generous!
Esther’s iPad
01:17:18
thank you for providing this
hyosunoh
01:17:27
Can we get Harris’ note?
Lonnie Chafin
01:17:31
Yes this will be on our NIC website
Katherine Paisley
01:17:32
Thanks, Lonnie. Thank you all!
Donna
01:17:32
From Donna - thank you so much.
Deb Evans
01:17:53
Thank you!