Lonnie Chafin's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Who can see your viewing activity?
It's good to use the chat function as we go along to answer questions or hear your experiences.
not our church
EFT at Rock Falls
Yes at Rochelle
We use Paypal and are looking at https://get.tithe.ly/ to help individuals give to the church
FUMC - Western Springs
We use Vanco
Geneva uses Elexio
Elmhurst: Christ - no online giving
Not at Walnut UMC
Tampico/Harmon no online giving
Vanco @ Sugar Grove UMC
Vanco -- but we have struggle getting some of our folks to sign up.
Hebron UMC - no online giving
Grace UMC Lake Bluff - Vanco
We just opened a Pay Pal account.
Our Saviour's in Schaumburg. We use ACH.
We do EFT through the bank and a little bit through ShareFaith
Freeport Faith - ACH giving only
Channahon UMC uses electronic
we use vanco at CaryUMC
we use vanco and e-giving
Our Saviors uses an offsite bank for our ACH
First Park Ridge we use EFT and PayPal
Gorham UMC uses Givelify, PayPal and working or Zelle
Rich Wagner Olympia Fields, Southern District, Giving through PayPal
Cheeseman- Reynolds- no online giving
East Side United Methodist Church, just set up a Paypal account
Glen Ellyn First: Giving+ App (smart phones)
can you speel that?
Kaneville has a PayPal account now, but also encouraging pay bill through banks.
Glen Ellyn Methodist - we use Vanco
Garry Gbur. Hazel Crest community UMC tried Vanco but elderly did not embrace
Donald Plock-German German Valley/Winnebago - No On.ine
Rich Ottens, Hanover UMC, no ON LINE giving.
fumc, arlington Heights. business manager. Vanco services. we also use vanco through our ACS database
Prince of Peace United Methodist Church in Elk Grove we use EFT and Vanco
We haven't as yet put in place any electronic giving for our membership as of yet, various challenges in our community at Greenstone UMC, but we are looking at electronic giving sources for our Restoration Project.
We just signed up for this and it works very well,
Hinsdale uses ACH and online via Elexio online. We did the Elexio conversion last year. All of our giving and church memebership records were converted to Elexio. It was a major conversion--so, not just a quick giving for this crisis.
Cornerstone Church Elgin we use Vanco
Are these fees for Credit Card or ACH? (Vanco is very different for each)
So they can set up regular payments?
e-giving provides same capability for donations
Orangeville UMC Do you need to be online or can you us a phone.
Credit Card giving has a charge.
Another great one is GIVLIA
Is cost of Breeze comparable to tithe.ly
I don't have enough people on the web to make it cost effective. The Congregants are for the most part 65 or older and our giving is the normal path.
That I think is the challenge with older members.. mail or an ACH might be best for them
is the 2.9% for credit card only. confirm not bank deduction
we want to encourage people to get to ach. once somone is set up as a recurring amount - meaning you might meet with the 65 year old - they will be set.
Vance is 1%
How do you reconcile the automatic giving through Breeze if you're using it in conjunction with QuickBooks? I'm assuming you can print out weekly reports of giving?
Our church is about 75% using Vanco and we are older. It's how you sell it; this virus may make it easier to get others to do it.
Agreed,, with the ACH for older members
so 600 a year
how fast are deposits transferred to account with breeze?
That's ok I can search for fees. keep going
NCS is $20.00 per month
Breeze looks very expensive at 3.1% for ACH...definitely do it directly. Virtually no cost.
Older/non web enabled members might also be more comfortable with having their bank draft a check and have that sent to the church every month…no cost to the church for this!
Does Breeze have a smartphone app?
What's a younger member :)
Christ UMC - Algonquin... we are an existing Vanco customer for EFT and have just added the Give+ set of apps & website functions. 1.9% + 0.25 /transaction. We also use PowerChurch which integrates with Vanco...
Breeze smartphone app information: https://www.breezechms.com/app
I have talked to Giving Fire. They provided this quote to me:
Option AYou pick up $20 of the $49 in monthly feesReduced processing of 2% CC + 1% ACHMonth to month contractOption BNo monthly fees for first 3 months2% Flat for CC and ACH.1 year contract
The UMF may test Option A where the UMF subsidizes the monthly fee for some period of time at the $20 level to get new churches to e-giving going. Interested? Email me: email@example.com
Is this being recorded? Sorry, of course this would be the time when multiple urgent calls come in :)
Yes please make sure y'all are muted to ensure a good recording :O)
This is being recorded and will be placed on the NIC website www.umcnic.org
Elexio is $0 monthly, 3% credit card and .75% ACH with 30 cents per transaction. Can lower CC costs to 1.99% with $49/month fee. So, depends on your volume. If you have a financial secretary that can work with givers and set up ACH directly with the giver's bank, can do for virtually no cost. Best for longer term.
That's how I setup the Kaneville UMC - non-profit.. We are looking at putting the paypal button on our website
How does Paypal record the giver's identity?
Christ UMC - Algonquin... we tried to use PayPal, but our bank account is a business account and they are not set up for Paypal (WinTrust branch)
Our church is using Servant Keeper. Should we change to ACH?
I use Venmo for personal use all the time. is it only able to be used if members have the app?
Does the member have to create a Tithe.ly account? Or can the member give through the Tithe.ly text without creating an account?
any comments on e-giving
Thoughts on go fund me charity? free plan and 1.9% and .30 and they use PayPal giving on back end
Please forward chat texts for reference. North Northfield
We've encouraged our members to use the bank's bill pay system to give to the church
That's one loud radiator..
Thanks what we do at Hemenway
https://jctaccounting.com/2020/03/17/the-whys-and-hows-of-electronic-giving/ here's a video to share with your committee to encourage their adoption of this system.
I have shared links to our e-giving option (Vanco) on facebook during livestream worship and every email I sent to folks. We have seen a 300% increase in our monthly online giving. I also mailed a real letter at the beginning of the shelter in place order/no in-person worship order with directions for online giving and an envelope for giving by check. We have seen more mailed in giving than normal and people are using those giving envelopes!
I do it through my bank for free. my bank sends a check to the church
if you use Wordpress for your website, they have the ability to add a giving button, once you set up the church account.
We have quite a few people who do what Harry is talking about. The bank sends us the check. No cost to the church and minimal cost to the giver.
Will you send out the document ?
Facebook will also allow giving during livestreams, if you facebook account is registered as a nonprofit. there's some steps in getting that status.
Only issue now is someone needs to deposit the check and with people not in the office, it delays the availability of the cash. That's something we can use for getting people to give online or electronically
I agree with Harry, it's important to talk about how the church is ongoing during this time. naming what the church is doing - how we are caring for members. People are looking for a way to care for others in this time, and knowing the church is doing that will deepen their commitment to the church
Please scroll down! :)
Yes! Works! Thank you!
what;'s the link for the generosity slide?
Can you make this document available on the NIC website?
We will place this document on the NIC website as well
GoFundMe is a great website; but normally there is an end date to the giving. The solutions we went over do not have end dates. If you are looking to do a quick fundraising goal, I totally recommend GoFundMe.
Janelle, yes, you have to have the Venmo app to use it.
another tip I've heard from others: sending envelopes addressed to the church with a tactful letter saying this is a way to support the church while sheltering may enable some check writers to participate while away.
Harry, can you send this out to us through the AC?
Lonnie and Anne Marie, can you send all of us Harry's printed suggestions?
we Already have an SOS fund for this reason.
the limitation about collecting money through the mail is that someone needs to be at the church to open them. and be sure that the internal controls are in place - like if there aren't two counters there are copies made and other tasks that assures the church all the funds are accountably managed.
can you just send the link via chat
harry, can you post this at umc weekly email
Thank you, Harry!
firstname.lastname@example.org - that correct email?
how can we access the recoring of thid
Linda Hensgen - Antioch
Great info. Thanks.
Char can I have your email address -Fay -email@example.com
Please clarify the payment of employees during this time .. if you can.
This recording will be on the NIC website at https://www.umcnic.org/financeadministration
Can I get Harris’ note?
Thank you so much for all the insights and information! Thank you!
If anyone else is from a small town — our bank has stepped up to help us. People can go to the drive up or night deposit and write our church name on the envelope and the bank will deposit it in our account.
I don’t see that option on my end. can you save chat for us?
Thanks for the information.
Hi this is___from___church. We are contacting our members to see how you are doing right now and to see if there is anything the church can do for you right now during this crisis. How can we help each other?
Then you listen connect them to online service or prayer or study that you have available. How do you want to continue giving talk about the services
we need everyones help to serve give two goals corona virus help. The general fund for staffing etc. end by thanking them. Tell folk you will follow up on their concerns. Here is how you can reach me. An example from another conference.
Thanks for all the useful info!!!
Hard to predict
I don’t know percentage, but I see a potential to bring our church down if this goes on too long.
Difficult to predict
This is hard to predict.
Same, really hard to say at this point
that is challenging in that if they give more early, we have less in the latter half of the year
From I see a big drop-off. It's too early to tell. I'm gessing a 30% drop off.
I agree on a touch base
our church building has a locked mailbox, attached to the building. i plan to let people know that they can mail in their offering, and it will be checked regularly
I plan to reach as many of our members as we can; email, facebook , phone calls,
God is good all the time all the time God is good. We all still need to know that has not changed. He loves us thru this difficult time
Check in in a couple of weeks. What's working for your church? Share ideas...
Donna from Channahon - I would like to get back in a couple of weeks.
I like the idea of checking back next week. This is very helpful for me. Thank you, Lonnie!
We just put all of our folks in small caring circles of 6-8 with a leader who will check in weekly with each person. Showing caring and creating connection seems vital to having a church at the end of this.
I agree that getting together again is helpful. Just as local church leaders need to connect, conference leadership should connect with local leaders.
We are "live streaming" and Zoom Meeting now for 2 weeks but only a few people have mailed in checks or added to our Vanco so far. And we have already lost our building usage revenuesFYI - We learned that when we set up contribution categories in Vanco this split the amounts in transaction / reports and also generated separate transaction fees since people were putting in separate amounts. So when we put in a separate category for helping cover transaction costs, it generated an added fee, losing some of the value. Getting fancy costs!
Lloyd that is valuable information. Thank you for sharing.
NCS giving is another good on-line giving serice we have used for years. They are only $20.00 per month. Thay have all the same services as Vanco.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you! God bless us all and the whole wide world with health and peace. Our God is generous!
thank you for providing this
Can we get Harris’ note?
Yes this will be on our NIC website
Thanks, Lonnie. Thank you all!
From Donna - thank you so much.