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Energy and Climate Change Action Plan Workshop #1 - Shared screen with speaker view
Bill Eger (City Staff)
22:54
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Ellen Eggerton
31:05
EAP 2040 recap- the 2030 goal is 50% reduction and the 2050 goal is 80-100% emissions reduction below our base year of 2005.
Don Burke
32:37
Wish we could be as bold as Ithaca. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/11/03/ithaca-new-york-decarbonize-electrify/
Scott Barstow
34:24
Yes, Ithaca is setting a great example! If they can do it, certainly we should be able to; we’re a significant bigger, more well-off city.
Olivia Merritt
34:36
I agree, decarbonization of all Alexandria's buildings, not just those owned by the city, is really necessary
Don Burke
35:43
So cool to have Jason with us tonight. Love Capital Weather Gang.
Steve Walz
41:22
On urban heat island, nighttime temperatures are increasing too, with less chance for houses to cool back down at night.
Don Burke
42:06
Rapidly rising nighttime temperatures are one of the least understood and most important changes happening around us
Don Burke
43:43
Here's a great thread about the dangers of nighttime temperatures. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1408541541409427457.html?s=09
Steve Walz
44:05
Higher temperatures also, with sunshine, increase generation of ozone, causing worse air quality in our region
Olivia Merritt
45:34
Higher nighttime temperatures also really negatively affect crops--plants rely on cooler nights for proper growth and development
Mary Harris
50:46
If you have questions for Jason, please ask them in the Chat or Q&A - . Great granular information for our region
Paul Leiby
51:32
Surprising those rainfall uncertainty bands are so narrow.
Jerome Paulson
51:55
What does the increased heat imply for human health?
Alyssa Abosompim
54:52
Thanks for this great presentation, Jason
Jerome Paulson
55:01
Mr Samenow - Thanks so much
Eldon Boes
55:18
Why do you say it’s “almost” certain that temperatures will rise? Isn’t that certain?
Paul Leiby
55:54
Thanks
Don Burke
56:21
My question for Jason. Isn't the weather community doing itself a disservice when we rebaseline "normals" every 30 years? It is hard enough to communicate climate change but it gets harder when the average against daily temperatures are compared incease.
Samuel Gyulnazarian
56:24
Have you looked at the full picture of increase of rain and reduction of snow together on balance?
Deb Roepke
56:31
Really great presentation, Jason. Thank you.
Don Burke
56:59
Thanks, Jason!
Sarah Glassco
56:59
Excellent, clear and understandable presentation/summary of local events.
Steve Walz
57:25
Do your weather models also address any increased risk for longer stretches of time with little rain - drought periods?
Eldon Boes
57:35
About 20 to 30 years ago, there was some hope that increasing ghg concentrations might increase cloud cover and therefore the earth’s albedo. I guess models have pretty much debunked that hope, right?
Don Burke
58:32
Will Jason's presentation be available for download?
Cynthia Elliott
58:55
Thanks, Jason, great presentation and would great to see some of the data sources on projections. Under the BAU scenario, with 65+ projected heat days over 90 degrees, what would be a new "high" temperature day? How hot will it get?
Jason Samenow
59:10
I can provide a pdf of the presentation to the organizers to share
Sasha Impastato
59:34
Will all these presentations be posted on the Task Force website?
Don Burke
59:41
👍
Ellen Eggerton
01:00:12
Yes the presentations will be added to the ECCAP web page
Bill Eger (City Staff)
01:00:44
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Joe Schilling
01:02:29
Andrea...how does the Biden's administration's focus on equity...say through Justice40...affect your work with state and local government.
Deb Roepke
01:04:34
Andrea, Does EPA have resources to help localities with energy efficiency?
Bill Pugh
01:13:13
Can City Council allocate more money to the ECCAP process to help do the kind of equitable outreach that Andrea is describing? Right now there are only 2 more general meetings is my understanding.
Don Burke
01:13:58
https://ejscreen.epa.gov/mapper/
Don Burke
01:15:13
Andrea, does your team at EPA evaluate health impacts of natural gas stoves? Any good authoritative sources on the topic?
Joshua Radoff
01:15:44
Don - Rocky Mountain Institute has the best study on the health of gas stoves that I’ve seen.
Joshua Radoff
01:16:08
https://rmi.org/insight/gas-stoves-pollution-health/
Joshua Radoff
01:16:46
(The RMI team was also featured on Samantha Bee)
Don Burke
01:17:00
https://rmi.org/insight/gas-stoves-pollution-health/
Don Burke
01:17:24
tks Joshua!
Praveen Kathpal
01:17:47
Andrea, do VCEA’s clean energy targets go far enough to meeting the administration’s (50-52% by 2030) and Alexandria’s (50% by 2030) goals?
Andrea Denny
01:22:32
Don--The RMI study Josh linked to is also what I would recommend. We are working on developing some additional analytical support around electrification of gas appliances, but our focus is more on outdoor air quality/emissions while the health impacts from stoves are more of an indoor air quality issue. We are coordinating with EPA's Indoor Air folks but it's a slow process!
Don Burke
01:23:13
tks, Andrea.
Andrea Denny
01:23:32
We do have a tool that helps look at the health benefits of reduced emissions called the Co Benefits Risk Assessment Model (COBRA) which is available at: https://www.epa.gov/cobra
Don Burke
01:24:18
Andrea, if someone lives on one of those high traffic corridors, how would they comprehend the health impacts of that reality?
Marta Schantz
01:25:15
Heat Pumps for the win!
Deb Roepke
01:25:41
An organization that is working with utilities as well as state and local leaders on electrification (stuff like switching away from gas stoves as well as towards heat pumps and EVs) is the Beneficial Electrification League www.be-league.org
Jerome Paulson
01:26:45
For info on traffic and health in VA see: https://www.virginiaclinicians.org/transportation
Marta Schantz
01:26:50
The Building Decarbonization Coalition (https://www.buildingdecarb.org/) is another great resources with a "Switch Is On" campaign to electrify buildings and homes
Andrea Denny
01:27:34
Deb--some of our resources around efficiency are collected here: https://www.epa.gov/statelocalenergy/local-energy-efficiency-benefits-and-opportunities
Ellen Eggerton
01:30:32
City EV registrations were 5% in 2019
Deb Roepke
01:30:50
Thanks Andrea and Marta
Marta Schantz
01:30:55
It was! I was dancing for heat pumps
Don Burke
01:31:08
Surprising given how Alexandria is an EV charging desert
Don Burke
01:31:39
Can't tell you how many of my friends in Alexandria have said they can't go EV because of charging challenges here.
Paul Kaplowitz
01:33:06
Did Josh say that 75% of the grid’s energy is renewable? I must have heard that wrong
Scott Barstow
01:33:12
Joshua, do your figures on natural gas plant emissions account for upstream emissions and methane leakage?
Don Burke
01:33:29
Ellen, when will there be EV numbers for 2020?
Jerome Paulson
01:33:35
Does nuclear have a role in the future that you are considering?
Steve Walz
01:33:45
Need to focus on eliminating methane leaks in the immediate term for the time we retire natural gas
David Byrd
01:33:48
75% of grid additions. not the overall balance (yet)
Praveen Kathpal
01:35:13
Josh, Is the 80% reduction in grid electricity a 2030 goal?
Olivia Merritt
01:35:17
Really interesting, thank you Josh!
Paul Leiby
01:35:21
The mitigation (GHG) reduction goals of the Energy and Climate Action Plan would be good progress, but shall we also talk about adaptation, particularly because of where Alexandria is, and the uncertainty of future Federal and global commitments?
Joshua Radoff
01:36:49
In 2021, new capacity additions on the grid: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46416
Paul Leiby
01:37:24
(Question from Libby) Is the new residential construction in Alexandria required to be electric-only for heating and cooking?
Don Burke
01:38:04
Joshua, is your view that we can just overbuild solar and energy storage to get the last 5% for grid reliability?
David Byrd
01:38:33
It just takes a real long time to get new nuclear up and running :(
Alexander Goyette
01:39:39
What's the role of dense transit-oriented development in reducing VMT and improving building efficiency thanks to shared walls & space? That's always a big political issue in alexandria
Scott Barstow
01:40:41
Thank you, Josh, and thanks for the note about meat/beef!
Joshua Radoff
01:41:17
Don — Yes, but also transmission and utilities providing time of use rates to encourage use when there is more renewables. EV charging when there’s lots of solar is an easy one.
Olivia Merritt
01:41:28
Interestingly, organic beef results in a lot fewer emissions! So, if beef is in your diet, organic is better than conventional. This is sadly not an option for lower-income folks since organic is a lot more expensive
Joshua Radoff
01:43:07
The other source of emissions from beef is all of the deforestation that takes place in other countries. So yes, while organic beef can be good for the land (replacing the role of the Buffaloe), but if the total demand continues to grow, it will take up all supply from the organic and allow the demand from forested land to continue. It’s a really interesting discussion. One I’ve had with some organic ranchers out here in the west.
Arielannia Walker
01:43:58
Thanks everyone!
Don Burke
01:44:15
Thanks Joshua. Yes, TOU too. I may reach out to you in the new year.
Joshua Radoff
01:44:21
Thank you all for having me. It’s dinner time out here in CO. Onward!
Bill Eger (City Staff)
01:44:37
We’d like to hear from you! Please share 5 words or phrases that describe what local community climate action means to you here in Alexandria? https://www.menti.com/ch5kkfd9ay
Andrea Denny
01:46:32
Thanks everyone. I also need to drop off but I hope you have a great conversation. If we can help in the future, please reach out, that's what we're here for!
Eldon Boes
01:46:34
Broad buy-in
Susan Freiband
01:47:07
Taking responsibility for learning and acting to improve climate change.
Bill Eger (City Staff)
01:48:11
📊 https://www.menti.com/ch5kkfd9ay
Matthew Johnston
01:48:58
Putting pressure on utilities to do more
Praveen Kathpal
01:49:14
Let’s not forget Josh’s slide on High Impact Action Pathways. Can’t do this without: (1) Renewable Energy, (2) Building Electrification, and (3) EV Transition (and VMT Reduction)
Eldon Boes
01:49:47
include cost info
Steve Walz
01:50:26
Also include information on cost of failing to act
Matthew Johnston
01:50:27
Eliminate City investments in fossil fuel companies
Don Burke
01:50:27
Cost in all its forms, not just the up-front cost in raw dollars.
Nancy Brown
01:50:44
Join your local Buy Nothing group!
Eldon Boes
01:51:02
massive need for better understanding
Kristin Stephen
01:51:03
E-bike commuting
Matthew Johnston
01:51:06
Great work, thanks!
Deb Roepke
01:51:11
Fantastic, Ellen
Don Burke
01:51:13
We get too focused on the initial raw cost and forget all the benefits that come from taking action now, even if it seems "more expensive" on the surface
Praveen Kathpal
01:51:15
Ellen has divestment been implemented?
Mary Harris
01:51:29
Update Alx Small Area Plans for Climate Impact
Eldon Boes
01:51:50
walking and biking for local trips
Paul Leiby
01:52:10
Safe convenient ways for human-powered transport
Chris Pyke
01:52:32
It would be very interested to see ESG reporting for City investments
Chris Pyke
01:52:42
Is this information public?
Matthew Johnston
01:52:56
City rebates for rooftop solar!??
Don Burke
01:52:59
The city has investments in fossil fuel companies? Yikes.
Ellen Eggerton
01:53:32
solar tax credits are in the city and have been for a while
Steve Walz
01:53:57
To Matthew -ALX gives a 5-year property tax break for home solar systems - not a rebate but a help
Don Burke
01:54:11
non of the solar initiatives help those of us in condos
Bill Eger (City Staff)
01:54:42
📝 Please use the Jamboard corresponding to your Breakout Room number to post your ideas, thoughts, and perspectives for everyone to see: https://jamboard.google.com/d/1ujR4IhsVuhwbSKYuVGNOoojC7g_bEKin8_HvAzUXCZ4/viewer?f=0❓ Question 1: What are the most important (or likely) actions you can take in your own life to reduce your greenhouse gas emissions?❓ Question 2: What barriers do you experience that prohibits you from taking action to reduce your greenhouse gas emissions in your own life?❓ Question 3: What is a priority action the City of Alexandria can take to support your reduction of greenhouse gas emissions in your own life or in the community?
Deb Roepke
01:55:32
I went to Breakout Room 1. I think I was assigned to 6?
Don Burke
01:55:45
where is the link to the breakout rooms?
Paul Leiby
01:57:04
When I clicked the Jamboard link that says “Breakout Room 1"
Matthew Johnston
01:57:55
Cool thanks for the tax info on solar
Bill Eger (City Staff)
01:58:02
At the top of the Jamboard, you can use the arrow to scroll to the Jamboard for your Breakout Room once the rooms are assigned.
Praveen Kathpal
01:58:25
Answer to Question 1: Most important actions I can take in my own life to reduce my GHGs: Vote for climate champions for mayor, council, and general assembly. And then advocate directly to them for policies that meet the science-based targets.
Praveen Kathpal
01:59:15
Answer to Question 2: What barriers do you experience? That the VCEA targets do not meet the science-based targets. And our mayor/council routinely contact the CEO of Dominion without mentioning climate mitigation.
Bill Eger (City Staff)
02:01:33
📝 Please use the Jamboard corresponding to your Breakout Room number to post your ideas, thoughts, and perspectives for everyone to see: https://jamboard.google.com/d/1ujR4IhsVuhwbSKYuVGNOoojC7g_bEKin8_HvAzUXCZ4/viewer?f=0❓ Question 1: What are the most important (or likely) actions you can take in your own life to reduce your greenhouse gas emissions?❓ Question 2: What barriers do you experience that prohibits you from taking action to reduce your greenhouse gas emissions in your own life?❓ Question 3: What is a priority action the City of Alexandria can take to support your reduction of greenhouse gas emissions in your own life or in the community?
Marta Schantz
02:26:59
We get music?!
Nancy Brown
02:27:13
Is there more to the program or are we done?
Marta Schantz
02:27:32
Nancy I believe the breakouts will share their takeaways now
Nancy Brown
02:27:52
We're all back
Ellen Eggerton
02:28:00
yes we are sharing from breakout rooms
Mary Harris
02:28:15
Hi all, cmon back and hear the reports from each breakout room
Jessica Lassetter
02:28:24
Thanks for bearing with me on the breakout rooms!! And thank you so much to our volunteer facilitators!! We had 10 total rooms.
Paul Leiby
02:28:45
Getting past our bedtime! :-)
Molly Bauch
02:31:45
Team - need to hop. Thanks for the time. Good conversation. Cheers
Kristin Stephen
02:32:45
Bravo, #1!!
Paul Leiby
02:36:34
Force multiplier: excellent perspective!
Praveen Kathpal
02:36:56
I love the concept of multiplying your impact
Sarah Glassco
02:37:18
Me too!
Kristin Stephen
02:38:05
Like the walkability score?
Paul Leiby
02:39:51
I love emission/sound limits on landscaping equipment
Sarah Glassco
02:41:09
We need action as well as education!
Cecilia La Torre Ramirez
02:41:37
yes, that is a powerful combo, Sarah :) totally agree
Paul Leiby
02:41:43
Require charging amenities in new high density blogs?
Paul Leiby
02:42:25
(blogs = bldgs)
Don Burke
02:44:40
Paul, yes, that should be a minimum but we're also the only local county without a Tesla supercharger location. The challenge for EV charging in existing built communities is very daunting and most of Alexandria is built infrastructure. Lots of Alexandrian's don't have off-street parking and that is a huge challenge too for EV charging at home.
Steve Walz
02:47:12
Good point on contractors. Solarize Alexandria will pre-qualify one or two contractors and help participants through the installation process - for those who can afford to put in solar on their home or commercial building
Don Burke
02:48:43
A few additional thoughts from Team 5: Good convo about communicating climate change. Recommendations for using health workers as research indicates they are one of the most trusted sources and to work hard at avoiding jargon so it is accessible to people who don't live and breath climate activism
Don Burke
02:49:59
One of our members on Team 5 was frustrated with how hard it is to access gardens to grow their own food.
Mary Jo Smet
02:50:13
Very good point about affordable housing.
Steve Walz
02:50:13
Group one had also noted the need to have more affordable housing.
Don Burke
02:51:19
Here, here on community solar. Wouldn't just benefit low-income. Also helps multi-unit dwellings
Don Burke
02:52:36
Supercharge.info is a great site to see where Tesla superchargers reside. Plugshare.com will show all charging by type, company, and more.
Don Burke
02:52:59
Alexandria City looks terrible on these maps.
Praveen Kathpal
02:53:37
EVmatch is an app that helps you find neighbors who will let you reserve and use their home EV chargers. Mine is on there! I encourage others who have one to add theirs.
Ellen Eggerton
02:54:27
thanks everyone
Bill Eger (City Staff)
02:54:38
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Bill Eger (City Staff)
02:55:10
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Ellen Eggerton
02:55:43
sign up for spring Eco-City Academy
Mary Jo Smet
02:56:10
where do we sign up for that
Ellen Eggerton
02:56:40
the academy application will open in the spring. The academy is given twice a year.
Mary Harris
02:56:42
We need supercharging stations to reach ALX EV penetration. barrier though is not all EVs have same plug, aargh, but multi plug Supercharging stations are a must - and car share
Bill Eger (City Staff)
02:56:46
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