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Sandra Eriksson
01:06:15
Having trouble connecting microphone. Want to make sure, are you able to control our micrphones, in case it goes on without noticing (since I'm having issues). Just want to make sure that someone can mute me if necessary :) Going through the security settings regarding microphone right now.
Nina - ISACA Global
01:06:40
Thanks Sandra! Yes, we can mute you if needed!
Sandra Eriksson
01:06:45
Good! :)
Vijaya Kumar
01:07:53
hello
Murali krishnan - Doha
01:08:08
Hello
Andreea Alexandra Bancu
01:08:23
Hello, everyone! :)
Sergejs Kravcenko, Riga, Latvia
01:08:26
Hi Everyone
Murali krishnan - Doha
01:08:33
Does this go in 1 session 4 hrs?
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
01:09:27
Hello everyone :)
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
01:09:47
Hello!
Georges, Switzerland
01:09:53
hi
Sharon Leo
01:09:59
Hello from Malaysia
Sophia
01:10:02
Hi!
doronzimmermann
01:10:06
Hello from Zurich, Switzerland
Biró Gabriella
01:10:15
Hi from Hungary
Jo Stewart-Rattray
01:10:20
Hey Sharon!
Mario Schneider
01:10:20
Hello everyone
Nina - ISACA Global
01:10:24
@Murali - Yes, this is 1 session running for 4 hours
Sharon Leo
01:10:38
Hello Jo! Nice seeing you here :)
Jo Stewart-Rattray
01:10:51
You too Sharon
Rashesh Patel
01:10:54
Hello Everyone!
Sue Milton
01:10:59
Hi and it is good to be with you. Get your questions ready for the panel sessions!
Ramona Ratiu- Chicago Chapter
01:11:08
Hello everyone from Chicago!
Rohit Malhotra
01:11:10
Hello everyone
Sarah Orton
01:11:11
Hi and welcome to everyone!!
Ekaterina Volkovich
01:11:11
Hi everyone!:)
Imre Szabo
01:11:15
hi Everyone
ronny
01:11:22
hi everyone
Sanja Kekic
01:11:55
Hello, welcome to everyone!!
Rita
01:12:05
Hi there :)
Terry Manyere
01:12:14
Hi there!
Rashesh Patel
01:18:14
My wife has been going to work, and I am taking care of our 14 months old with some help, while working from home. :)
Rashesh Patel
01:18:32
meant to say I have been taking care....
Sanja Kekic
01:18:37
Great !
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:18:55
Perfect. But you are one of 100 how are doing this ;)
Terry Manyere
01:20:09
How do you claim CPEs for this?
Shana Goulbourne
01:20:17
Hello from Canada, I can totally relate to what she is saying. I am still working remotely and totally dreading if schools should go remote again given the cases have been going up. It has been a real struggle working remote and home schooling
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:20:20
It should be possible also for a man to doing more, specially the companies should support this
Vivian Nwoji
01:21:06
Is this chart based on just the US or all over the world?
Ginger Spitzer
01:22:14
it is global
Shana Goulbourne
01:22:27
why do you think women don’t stay in the industry after they join
Nina - ISACA Global
01:23:01
@Terry you can self-report the 3 CPEs in your MyISACA account
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
01:24:11
Isn’t this a problem already in school. It’s much easier for the boys to ”play” with different tech toys. What should we do about this?
Terry Manyere
01:24:41
Thanks @Nina
Ginger Spitzer
01:25:15
yes! And One In Tech is working to address bias within early education
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:25:34
Is that possible to get the slides after the presentation ?
Ginger Spitzer
01:25:56
Yes we will post on the OIT website
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
01:26:01
Great!
Rashesh Patel
01:26:07
Hi Ann, trying to understand what you mean by it's easier for the boys to "play" with different tech toys. The school does not provide with computers/other tech to all students?
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:26:14
perfect, thank you
Ginger Spitzer
01:26:16
www.oneintech.org
Sophia
01:26:17
Thanks Ginger
Vivian Nwoji
01:27:45
There is also an issue of many organisations not fully embracing flexible working, and so many women who eventually join, leave because they struggle at the home front.
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
01:27:49
No, that’s correct but what I meant was that there is in Sweden at least at the library ways to build tech toys but it’s more or less never that there are girls there. Why can that be?
Ginger Spitzer
01:27:52
One In Tech is offering access to additional tech education in around cyber security as well as safety for children
Ginger Spitzer
01:28:26
And we are building a SheLeadsTech program to help girls enter the space
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:29:05
How did you handle childrens and Kids with your Job in the past?
Jo Stewart-Rattray
01:29:08
Ginger your video is turned off
Biró Gabriella
01:30:09
Ginger, we can see you now. :)
Rosemary Amato
01:30:09
Absolutely heard of JDEdwards. I used to do security and controls implementation for the software!!
Vivian Nwoji
01:30:25
There are a lot of programs out there focusing on helping girls enter the tech space, but what is SheLeads Tech doing for women who have taken a career break return back to work?
Sophia
01:30:25
I did security too for JDE - OneWorld
Darren O'Brien
01:32:04
I had to occasionally audit JDE in my external audit days!
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
01:32:05
Did your supervisor support you in achieving your goals ? Or did you have the feeling that you were stuck back in the job and couldn't realise yourself?
Ginger Spitzer
01:33:07
@vivian Will address in a moment!
SJohn
01:34:10
having a woman supervisor does not need to make any difference just because she is a woman...in my experience the male supervisors were more supportive that female supervisors when it came to flexibility..
Ekaterina Volkovich
01:35:13
What period of time do you think it is the best time to study on MBA program?
Terry Manyere
01:35:53
cvISACA CPE form
SJohn
01:38:23
thank you very much Gail!
Sharon Leo
01:38:39
Thank you very much Gail! Great inspiration
Gail Coury
01:39:01
You are all very welcome! Great questions!
Georges Brighenti
01:39:08
Thank you very much Gail!
Darren O'Brien
01:39:22
Thank you gail
Sophia
01:39:38
Thank you Gail. Enjoyed your talk.
Sue Milton
01:39:56
Gail, a great opening. Thank you.
Ramona Ratiu- Chicago Chapter
01:40:30
Thank you Gail. Fantastic opening!
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
01:49:55
Thank you Ginger, great information :)
Georges Brighenti
01:50:01
Thanks Ginger
Sharon Leo
01:50:28
Thank you Ginger!
Sue Milton
01:51:07
Ginger, thank you. Good context for us on the evolution form STL to the broader inclusivity OneInTech.
Ginger Spitzer
01:51:28
You can learn more and find out how to engage with and support OIT at www.oneintech.org!
Sophia
01:51:47
Thanks again Ginger
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
01:54:17
one more back Ginger
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
01:54:21
I think
Sharon Leo
01:54:27
yes one more back
Biró Gabriella
01:59:21
This is my favourite quote now. :)
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
01:59:35
Mine too :)
Duncan McNutt
01:59:46
Susspect one number is for the west and the other for the world.
ronny
02:00:30
jo, do you think that efforts should be taken not only in the corporate world, but also in politics?
Laura Sandberg
02:00:40
Good quote - agree
Rita
02:02:59
I think this audience is really recipient. But how do we reach those who are o.k. with the status-quo and kind of deaf for these changes?
Karo
02:04:16
Do we need to describe job offers more appealing to women ad how? Do you have examples?
Onepile
02:04:52
do you have to fight for inclusion?
Georges Brighenti
02:05:35
In our company, CIO and CISO are both women, but very few in total of IT department
Vivian Nwoji
02:06:35
Do you think it's a good idea to have an Ally, champion or chair a Gender diversity programme in an organisation? Do you think a man will fully grasp the issues and can lead this programme in an organisation?
Darren O'Brien
02:07:22
Our company has a very positive outlook not only on hiring women into IT, but also into the business generally. For example, most of the CIO's first line direct reports are women - this gender diversity drive comes right from the CEO.
Darren O'Brien
02:07:49
Our CISO is also a woman.
Vivian Nwoji
02:10:35
Not recognising the problem is a big issue. I was once told that the senior leadership team in an organisation I worked for were diverse in thought, and that was enough, when it was clear that the leadership team clearly lacked gender diversity.
Sharon Leo
02:11:43
I too have the same issue Jo. Totally can relate
Sue Milton
02:12:59
Same for me. Sometimes it was a woman who has said this to me. We all carry misperceptions.
Rita
02:13:01
I think sometimes the problem(not enough suitable leader to the board) starts with that may women don't even get the chance to grow. Don't receive challenging assignments, staying on the safe side (or obliged to stay there). SO if, you don't even get the chance to develop, you won't evolve to a leader even you have potentials. (IMHO)
Paul Hillman
02:13:58
I am the CIO and my CISO is a woman, that was the same in my last CIO role. `it is our job to make sure all of our employees get qualified for the next postion.
ronny
02:16:10
that's a good idea
Adjoa Asamoah
02:16:48
Well said Paul.
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
02:17:20
love the idea for evaluating an anonymous CV
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
02:17:52
Totally agree!
Damira Pon
02:19:19
Applause! :)
Laura Sandberg
02:19:22
Thank you Jo for the great inspiration
Rita
02:19:22
*applause :)*
Paul Hillman
02:19:25
For the male sponsors in this group, you need to remember that when we spnsor women we also need to make sure they get connected to the local female networks. often times the junior women do not know they need that network
doronzimmermann
02:19:27
Yes.
Okechi Owuama
02:19:30
Applause!
Sue Milton
02:19:39
It would be interesting to see if we obtain more diversity that way. If we don't, then intangible biases will be at work.
elias
02:19:39
Applause to all!!! Great presentations
Sharon Leo
02:19:43
Thank you so much Jo! *Applause*
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
02:19:48
Applause!!!
Darren O'Brien
02:19:52
*applause"
Gail Coury
02:19:56
Well done, Jo!!
Rosemary Amato
02:19:58
you can click on reactions and select an applause hand
Nelushie
02:20:05
Applause!!
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
02:20:16
Fantastic presentation, thank you Jo
Sue Milton
02:20:19
Great talk, Jo. Thank you.
Georges Brighenti
02:20:29
Top discussion, thanks Jo
Sanja Kekic
02:20:51
Great talk, Jo.
Sarah Orton
02:21:12
Well done Jo!
Rita
02:22:34
Thank you so much :) Oh, yeah, the good old second guessing :D
Hussein Hassanali
02:23:15
Excellent! thanks Jo. Maintaining regular contact and continuing engagement enabled a female colleague to hit the ground running on her return from maternity leave.
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
02:23:44
My grandmother told me that you always can do things if you want to, it all comes up to your own thoughts.
Murali krishnan - Doha
02:24:08
Great Jo..
Duncan McNutt
02:24:09
How do I find the contact for the local chapter of SheLeadsTech (Germany)?
LAWRANCE_TA’s iPhone
02:24:09
thanks Jo
Sue Milton
02:24:15
Why would we want to hire someone who ticks all the job criteria? If true, they would leave in a few months through boredom. I look for people who want to learn and bring new things to the role.
Adjoa Asamoah
02:24:29
Thanks Jo!
Mario Schneider
02:24:33
thanks, good session
Vivian Nwoji
02:25:30
Great session, thank you.
Jo Stewart-Rattray
02:29:28
@duncan the contact for Germany is Julia Hermann and you will meet her in the next session
Duncan McNutt
02:30:32
Thanks all.
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
02:30:34
Thanks
Jo Stewart-Rattray
02:33:49
@Karo - absolutely we do need to make job offers more appealing for women
Jo Stewart-Rattray
02:36:44
@ronny - yes we should be encouraging more women to go into politics and lead from that level. There are UN programs focused on female leadership at country level
Hussein Hassanali
02:40:00
Great talk Sarah, and excellent tips. :)
SJohn
02:41:45
thanks Sarah
Sue Milton
02:42:50
Gail, Ginger, Jo and Sarah, you have inspired me all over again.
Jo Stewart-Rattray
02:43:24
@Sue - how lovely are you!
Gail Coury
02:44:02
@Sue - thank you!
Rohit Malhotra
02:48:03
really interesting stuff !
Ekaterina Volkovich
02:49:33
very beautiful balls))
Rita
02:50:27
Oh, too bad I missed the Geneva one - but the CERN visit was incredible :):
Elias V Zurich, CH
02:51:18
Thank you Sarah great presentation
Georges Brighenti
02:51:30
Thank you Sarah
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
02:51:32
tnx
ronny
02:51:38
thank you sarah for the presentation
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
02:51:44
Thank you Sarah, great discussion
Ekaterina Volkovich
02:51:46
Thank you Sarah!
LAWRANCE_TA’s iPhone
02:51:58
thanks Sarah. lovely to see you
Gail Coury
02:52:15
Well done Sarah!
Laura Sandberg
02:52:45
Thank you Sara!
James Kelly
02:54:30
Do we have metrics that show gender percentages in different countries/ regions? Would be interesting to see who has better numbers and examine what they are doing right so we can replicate that in other areas that are lagging.
Mario Schneider
02:55:22
Would be also interesting to have that across industries
SJohn
02:55:43
just curious if your organizations have gender sensitive KPIs set?
Jo Stewart-Rattray
02:56:11
@James - I wish,... gender stats were not being collected by ISACA until recently. To have a look though at the OECD report called Bridging the Digital Divide - I think. I shall check and post before the end of forum
Duncan McNutt
02:57:06
@SJohn, we do. 50% in the board, lots of Women in Healtchare but while we have about 50% women in tech, leadership is all Male :(
SJohn
02:57:59
thanks Duncan..
Susi Thiagarajan
03:02:21
@JamesKelly - i saw this last year on tracking gender equality by countries from PewResearchCenter https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/04/22/how-people-around-the-world-view-gender-equality-in-their-countries/
Duncan McNutt
03:06:35
@Susi, there is a big difference between perception and real progress. I have some fellow Feminists (all women) contacts in India. Yes it is improving but its still horrible over there.
Rita
03:08:47
How about who takes the meeting notes? :) Really similar experiences to the coffee situation.
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:09:05
Very true @Rita
Barbara Nerć-Szymańska
03:10:06
Same experiences. I often receives offers from headhunters in which they adresse me as Mister.
Sue Milton
03:10:37
I did it once - and yes I was the only women amongst 6 men - but only if the men did this for the next 5 meetings.
Laura Sandberg
03:11:59
Also experienced the "please can you take the minutes..."
Julia Hermann
03:12:14
@rita I ask in the beginning who's volunteering for taking notes ;)
Rita
03:13:51
One good method, that they don't even bring laptop :D However, I don't really know if it's gender specific.
Laura Sandberg
03:13:52
That's a good idea, thanks
Rita
03:14:46
@Julia - followed by dead silence with school vibes looking on the shoes, or out of the window :D (Sorry, don't want to shift from the topic)
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:14:48
If they have a notepad and pen they can take notes. You don't need a laptop - no excuse :-)
Susi Thiagarajan
03:15:46
@Duncan - Quite right. While a certain nations are perceived as providing the best opportunities for both genders, many countries are still viewed as not yet being able to accommodate equal chances for both men and women. I’m from Malaysia and it’s a slow uphill challenge to be recognised as an equal.
Julia Hermann
03:19:47
@rita you really have to say no sometimes.M experience is the first times there is surprise, but it becomes normal then
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:20:29
@john @duncan Have a look at the OECD report Empowering Women in the digital age: where do we stand? This was sponsored by the Australian Government but covers the globe anf the stats are interesting
Rita
03:23:45
Thank you, Julia :) Will try that.
Sophia
03:24:31
Interesting comment - is cybersecurity environment safer without women...
Susi Thiagarajan
03:25:48
@Sophia- a long time ago, they said the roads were safer without women drivers. :)
Sophia
03:26:25
that's true Susi :-)
Duncan McNutt
03:26:35
@Sofia, definiely not: See https://hbr.org/2016/11/why-diverse-teams-are-smarter
Sophia
03:27:00
but a study was once done and it showed women are actually safer drivers
Susi Thiagarajan
03:27:29
yay! also safer
Duncan McNutt
03:27:41
oops, wrong study. ill post right one
Sophia
03:28:23
@ Duncan - thanks :-)
Duncan McNutt
03:28:32
Meant this one: https://hbr.org/2011/06/defend-your-research-what-makes-a-team-smarter-more-women
Susi Thiagarajan
03:28:57
really shawn …
Shana Goulbourne
03:31:01
Are the local she-leads chapters separate from the local ISACA chapters or is it like an arm of the ISACA chapter?
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:31:40
They are usually one and the same and the chapter will have a SLT liaison person.
Sarah Orton
03:31:54
@Shana - each chapter will have a SLT representative
Shana Goulbourne
03:31:56
ok thanks
Sarah Orton
03:32:24
You may wish to have separate events though which may appeal better to female audience, whether that be timing or venue or subject matter etc
Maria del Carmen Miguel San Agustin
03:33:39
The question is that the research have found that in reality there are 9 different intelligences as least, and they cannot be measured in all the cases with the IQ criteria
Maria del Carmen Miguel San Agustin
03:33:58
and emotional intelligence is one of them
Susi Thiagarajan
03:34:36
@Duncan - HBR report in 2011. Do you know whether it was repeated in 2019 or 2020?
Rashesh Patel
03:35:36
great to hear about general diversity
Sharon Leo
03:35:57
That's a fantastic idea
Biró Gabriella
03:36:42
The language you speak influences the way you think. So including other languages is a great way to diversify thinking.
Michel Lambert
03:37:14
Totally agree
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:37:19
@Gabriella - fantastic
Maria del Carmen Miguel San Agustin
03:37:21
https://www.simplypsychology.org/multiple-intelligences.html
Duncan McNutt
03:37:39
There are several reports on mixed teams (male/female) working better than just male or only female teams. Generally HBR has good leadership advice, for free if you check the RSS feed.
Susi Thiagarajan
03:38:07
@Jo - du bist Klug und Nett! :)
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:38:30
@Susi - awww vielen dank..
Rita
03:38:34
For me a great example was the session of the 2 Google experts on Making Compliance Cloud-Native :) Or the closing keynote with Dr.Barker. These are really inspirational (besides this event of course :) )
Maria del Carmen Miguel San Agustin
03:38:43
https://www.simplypsychology.org/multiple-intelligences.html
Johanna Cuba
03:38:44
Yes Duncan, that's true, the diversity is very important in a work team
Maria del Carmen Miguel San Agustin
03:39:04
in reference to the article shared before See https://hbr.org/2016/11/why-diverse-teams-are-smarter
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
03:41:15
As someone from Finland, very interesting to hear your presentations (btw, our government (ministers) is mostly women)
Susi Thiagarajan
03:41:52
@Duncan - Awesome ! Thanks. I’m kinda biased in thinking gender doesn’t influence team-working. its the culture we live in that dictates team interaction.
ronny
03:43:12
thank you for the panel discussion
Rohit Malhotra
03:45:01
this was sooo insightful. As a male hiring manager i realized some of the "mistakes" i make without realizing the downstream effect
Murali krishnan - Doha
03:45:23
thank you..
Rohit Malhotra
03:45:25
thank you so much for this discussion
Georges Brighenti
03:45:26
Thanks for your discussion!!!
Sarah Orton
03:45:26
Thanks all for your engagement and the quality of the chat the conversation provoked.
Ann-Mari Uddmäre
03:45:27
Thanks All, very inspiring and a lot of stories reminding me of memory lane for an "old female professional"
Mario Schneider
03:45:33
thanks
Laura Sandberg
03:45:35
Thank you
Sophia
03:45:38
Thank you all!
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
03:45:41
Thx!
Ekaterina Volkovich
03:45:50
Thank you! Very interesting!
Sharon Leo
03:45:54
Thank you
Iqra Khalil
03:45:55
Thank you great speakers
AJ Asamoah
03:46:01
Great. Thanks!!
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
03:46:03
Thank you all!
Vijaya Kumar
03:46:48
excellent panel discussion and encouraging w.man power
Vijaya Kumar
03:47:13
woman power
sgollamudi
03:48:14
thank you and it is a great discussion
iPad van Simone Weenink
03:54:51
Sahrah do you have experience with how organisations react to women when they are not coping with trying to keep all the plates spinning (home, career, kids, family care)
Sanja Kekic
03:57:35
Thank you :-)
Jo Stewart-Rattray
03:57:49
Thank you @Sanja
Sophia
03:57:50
Zaza you are resilient! Thank you for your story!
Sarah Orton
03:58:26
Good question Simone - I think with the diversity and inclusion agenda that organisations need to appreciate the value that women can bring and picking up on Gaby's point re: flexibility etc
Duncan McNutt
04:00:04
I think corona empowered work at home. But I see that there might be a rebound later, we need to actively work to keep home-office as a viable option.
iPad van Simone Weenink
04:01:47
thx Sarah
Rita
04:01:56
I think with men also forced to stay at home may re-evaluated some of them the amount of tasks that are to be solved at home. so in this sense it may advanced the equal right and recognition :)
Gail Coury
04:02:18
I must sign-off as I have a meeting to attend at the start now of the US day. I want to thank all of you for allowing me to participate in this very special event. You all are truly inspirational! Please keep the faith and carry on! Stay safe!
ronny
04:02:48
bye gail
Sue Milton
04:03:03
I agree. WFH is a powerful benefit to all. Many of my colleagues are looking for a 2 day office, 3 day wfh in 2021.
Terry Manyere
04:05:39
Deloitte now having a permanent plan: https://www.businessinsider.com/deloitte-offices-covid-work-from-home-remote-working-2020-10?r=US&IR=T
Duncan McNutt
04:06:14
Think many males will support this. Case in point: it was easier for me to get from a 5 day work-week to a 4 day work week than it was to get a one day home office. Even now me being at home is an "exception" and I am expected to be in the office all the time.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:06:16
For people having worked in an organization for a long time it obviously is much easier to cope with remote working than the newcomers. And our culture is one, where we have easy to keep social distances
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:08:17
(it)
Rita
04:08:57
totally agree Juha-Pekka
Marino
04:11:08
Hi, does this count for CPE otherwise I would like to leave now as this is not interesting for me.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:11:36
Thx, Rita! And for experienced workers, again of course, is so much easier to use and find the "dotted lines" (who knows a person, who knows someone) in an organization - now without the coffee discussions
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:11:59
@Marino - yes, this counts for CPE
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:12:11
@Marino yes... 3 CPE if you attended the whole forum
Marino
04:12:26
I see. Thanks
Duncan McNutt
04:12:44
it broadens your horizons :)
Marc Borgers (Hamburg / Germany)
04:13:26
👍
doronzimmermann
04:13:33
Yep
Biró Gabriella
04:15:00
Disconnecting from the working place does not mean that you have to disconnect from the colleagues you like. :)
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:15:05
@Dumcam - exactly, and this does it to me in spite of having worked for a multinational organization (Microsoft) for 10 years
Duncan McNutt
04:15:22
Just google "productivity study home office versus office work" to see how much more productive people can be (if they are information workers).
Marino
04:15:40
In our organization we don't have any issues with women. I am not aware that there are concerns like those shared by the participants.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:15:50
@duncan - sorry for typo, have no extra monitor with me, just this very small laptop sceren, sorry!!!
Biró Gabriella
04:16:57
@Marino, maybe you are not listening hard enough.
Duncan McNutt
04:17:04
Question: Is home-office capability a gender related issue or is it a corporate culture related issue? If it is a culture issue then how can you motivate leadership to support home-office?
Rita
04:18:34
Did you experienced - especially at the start of your journey - that sometimes you need to do the heavy lifting just to be recognized/acknowledged so you can get forward?
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:19:13
@Rita absolutely!
Rita
04:19:20
(And how did you cope with it, are there any tipps? :) )
Sue Milton
04:19:25
What do you see as evidence of no problems, Marino? If there are none, what is your organisation doing to achieve this?
Biró Gabriella
04:19:32
@Rita, all the time.
Marino
04:20:35
Sorry that participants have had those experiences but men had similar experiences too
Duncan McNutt
04:20:47
@Marino, in your organization how many female leadeers are there. Example from my past: HR at a "very large international company" was mostly staffed by women, but the management was all male.
Marino
04:21:18
Sue - its not even raised as an issue. in my department even I m the only male.
Marino
04:21:42
our HR is female.
Rita
04:22:24
Thank you ^.^ Zaza, I can so understand it.
Marino
04:22:29
there are also a number of female general managers, a lot of women directors
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:22:32
How about men versus women as micromanagers?
Biró Gabriella
04:22:33
@Zaza, I love the way you discribe situations.
Duncan McNutt
04:22:55
@Juha-Pekka, it is about the same
Paul Hillman
04:23:13
Micro Mgmt is a sign of a. an employee that needs help/training, b. incompetence as a manager or in the worst case an employee that does not want to work.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:23:35
In this culture, yes (have had about 50 per cent women and men on all managerial levels)
Biró Gabriella
04:23:39
Maybe men have more opportunities to micro-manage, because they are at the top of the food chain.
Duncan McNutt
04:23:50
@Paul, if you micro manage more than a few months it is the management that is failing. Always.
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:24:06
Very true @Paul
Paul Hillman
04:24:07
in the first case, its a training issue and you need to invest in the employee, in the second casem the manager needs either training or to move. Third case employee needs help finding a new position
Paul Hillman
04:24:39
Duncan`; agree
Marino
04:25:33
my direct boss is a female. She tried to micromanage when I was new. That did not work because I refused as non-productive. She realized after a few months she did not have to micromanage me at all base on my performance
Murali krishnan - Doha
04:25:35
I think Micromanagement is the supervisor's personal weakness, no direct relation to gender or race..
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:25:37
Sometimes, of course, micromanagement is about if an employee is an associate of leaging / principal
Duncan McNutt
04:25:54
There is also a difference between micro-managing and coaching.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:25:56
(leading)
Laura Sandberg
04:25:56
Thank you for sharing Zaza
Paul Hillman
04:26:11
my problem is getting more women in my MT... Diversity both in gender and culture is essentieel, just hard to realize in IT
Sue Milton
04:26:17
Marino, I feel you should write blog for OneInTech explaining the situation.
Paul Hillman
04:26:41
in Limburg The Netherlands
Duncan McNutt
04:29:15
@ Murali. Normally if you want to teach you "coach" the employee. If an employee is underperforming then you might micro-manage to see better what is really going on... after you had an open talk to see if there are any side issues.
Duncan McNutt
04:29:55
But micro-management is generally the last option and only for a short time.
Murali krishnan - Doha
04:30:49
@Duncan agree..
Rita
04:30:49
Yes, Duncan, agree
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:32:06
About coaching - in some companies there are formal PIP's (performance improvement programs)
Rita
04:33:12
Yes, and those are really creatively applied depending on cultural backgrounds from your bosses :-/ (I am talking here good examples too :) )
Biró Gabriella
04:34:00
Mentoring only works if you have the chemistry. PIPs are not good with that.
Duncan McNutt
04:34:46
@Brió: agree
Sarah Orton
04:35:31
Agree @gaby
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:35:52
@Rita - in many respects we here in Nordic Countries (Finland) - are much behind US, for example - like with the "non-retalliation" policies
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:37:25
@Birò - yes - and depending on the major parts of the organizations, which set the phase'
Laura Sandberg
04:37:36
Thank you all
Murali krishnan - Doha
04:37:42
thank you..
Rita
04:37:46
It was a great panel, thank you :)
Georges Brighenti
04:37:48
Thanks, very much for this panel discussion.
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:37:59
Thx!!!
Clem
04:38:06
thank you
Karo
04:38:10
thanks
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:38:16
Thank you all for your input through chat!
Sue Milton
04:38:30
Jo, thank you for moderating so well. Great second panel. Real insights. Zaza, Gabi, Sarah. Thank you.
Igor Grinko
04:38:32
Thank you all! Great session!
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:38:46
Thank you @Sue
Chloe Miller
04:38:56
Thank you speakers!
Ilirjana (Lily) Veseli Doni - Germany
04:39:04
thank you all so much for this great seminar, discussions and experience sharing
Aisaule Mukhanova
04:40:01
Thank you for a great seminar and shares of opinion!
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:40:11
Our please @Aisaule
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:40:24
Thank you @lily'
Ann-Charlotte Klingberg
04:40:27
Thank you all! It’s been great!
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:40:34
pleaure
Jo Stewart-Rattray
04:40:39
pleasure
Sharon Leo
04:41:14
Thank you everyone. Good insight from the panels and thanks Jo for moderating it so well.
kassydan
04:41:16
Thanks you for the speakers! It was excellent event!
doronzimmermann
04:41:18
Thanks
LAWRANCE_TA’s iPhone
04:41:40
well done everyone. best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:41:40
Currently in our chapter, with the exception of our past president, are men; so I sort of carry the message to our chapter
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:42:16
I meant that our board is all-male for one exception (past president)
Mario Schneider
04:42:21
Our Chapter has been presented for the last 20 years by a woman.
Murali krishnan - Doha
04:42:25
Great event.. thank you all...
Susi Thiagarajan
04:42:29
enjoyed every second . Keep Safe !
iPhone
04:42:30
thanks to the organisers and contributors, I have really enjoyed the event and found it thought provoking. I hope there will be more online events in the future.
Rita
04:42:35
Thank you :)
ronny
04:42:45
thank you
Sophia
04:42:45
Thanks everyone. Stay safe!
Darren O'Brien
04:42:45
Thanks to all the speakers. This has been a delightful revelation!
Aneta Waberska
04:42:49
Thank you for today’s session!
Darren O'Brien
04:42:50
(at least to me!)
Elias V Zurich, CH
04:42:52
Thanks to everyone… great speeches!
sven-olof.wiklund
04:42:55
Thanks everyone for an interesting afternoon, with good discussions and information
Karo
04:42:56
Thank you for the insights and great discussions
Paul Hillman
04:42:57
Thanks for letting me participate/listen!
Jennifer Stevens
04:42:59
Thanks so much for the event! :)
Laura Sandberg
04:42:59
Thank you and wish all a nice weekend
Mario Schneider
04:43:01
Thanks, good insights.
Terry Manyere
04:43:02
Thank you all!
Mihai IACOBAN
04:43:04
many thanks to all speakers!
Patty
04:43:09
wonderful program... thank you!
Denton McGregor
04:43:12
Thanks for a very interesting seminar. Very insightful.
Ekaterina Volkovich
04:43:13
Thanks to all the speakers!
iPad van Simone Weenink
04:43:13
it was great thankyou
Juha-Pekka Posti, Helsinki, Finland
04:43:14
Thank you!
Nicolas
04:43:17
Thanks!