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Ecosystem Foundry WG / Trust over IP Foundation - Shared screen with speaker view
Drummond Reed
19:29
+1 to “bringing identity into ecosystems” - that’s the goal of the Ecosystem Foundry WG
Drummond Reed
24:12
I love the idea of the EFWG publishing a series of white papers about “ToIP and [your industry]” - each white paper can explain how the ToIP stack can solve key trust issues in that particular industry
Carly Huitema
28:48
Is anyone here familiar with academic publishing? DOIs etc? I am not a domain expert in this field but I am familiar and I thought it would be a good application.
Subra
32:06
I would be happy to volunteer/collaborate on the white papers.
Drummond Reed
32:58
@Carly, yes, I’m familiar with DOIs within academic publishing. Ironically, DIDs and the ToIP stack take the concept of DOIs and generalize it into decentralized, cryptographically verifiable identifiers that can be used to prove identity for anything.
Jim StClair
34:41
+1
Jim StClair
36:11
i "motion" that we consider this white paper to be inducted for consideration by the WG
Karen Hand
36:57
Excellent idea for template, will help frame the stories consistently
Scott Whitmire
37:07
@Jim, I’d have to see it first…
Subra
39:32
Is there a list of existing use cases that needs to be documented and/or a prioritized list of domains where ToIP will provide high value?
Jim StClair
39:41
@scott, yes of course. it may be the paper is jointly edited to our proposed template
Jim StClair
40:06
@subra - yes. anyone can bring a proposed use case
Scott Whitmire
41:12
@Jim, I think the creation and proposing of a white paper is open to any member. Once it is written, and conforms to the template, the WG would decide whether it wants to officially endorse or sponsor the white paper, or some alternative.
Nicky Hickman
41:15
And what are they asking for from us?
Jim StClair
43:36
+1 @scott
Scott Whitmire
44:20
Keep in mind the “boundary” in the name of this WG. That implies our main products should focus on templates, frameworks, rules, processes, and guidance for creating ecosystems. We don’t actually create them, or maybe even approve them.
Scott Whitmire
44:43
That should be “foundry” and it was before I hit return…
Carly Huitema
46:39
Can the white papers help identify ideal states to work towards and with that goal in mind we, the Ecosystem WG develop the tools, frameworks, and path for any org to successful enable an ecosystem as identified by the white paper ideal state?
Drummond Reed
47:47
Carla, yes, that would be a wonderful outcome of the white papers
Steven Milstein
54:30
+1 Karen
Jim StClair
54:40
+1 Karen
nicholas see
54:56
#1 i reckon that the eco-system needs shd drive the governance requirements#2 the eco-system shd generalised and be decomposed into one or more of the following components:[a] people[b] processes / biz rules[c] products / services[d] technology[e] commercial / biz model#3 if we can accurately model the eco-system based on [a], [b], [c], [d] and [e] then we can branch out to the various layers in the toip stack
Jim StClair
55:00
Food is alao a topic in the Sovrin SSI IOT group
Jorge Flores
55:10
I like Scott’s recommendation to prototype an ecosystem. We certainly have a handful of use cases that can demonstrate interoperability: COVID initiative, farmworkers/essential workers, human trafficking, patient healthcare records
Jim StClair
55:38
+1Jorge
Nicky Hickman
56:03
Excellent point @ Gena, I am doing some work on textile and clothing supply chains which transcend boundaries
Gena Morgan
57:42
+1 Drummond I think as soon as we can provide examples things will become less theoretical and the story will come together
Scott Whitmire
57:55
I think we are going to find that an ecosystem is described by what looks like a cross-enterprise architecture, but with governance frameworks and technical specs at each level.
Gena Morgan
58:19
^^^ THAT
Jim StClair
59:38
Yup!
Scott Whitmire
01:00:38
…and we may not go lower than layer 3 to define the VCs that make up the ecosystem’s data transfer protocols.
Gena Morgan
01:01:27
Annegret is telling the story of my career...
Drummond Reed
01:02:03
+1 to ScottW’s point that cross-ecosystem interop should not need to worry about Layers 1 and 2, only 3 and 4
Scott Whitmire
01:05:37
..because any solution at layer 1 and 2 should work if they are ToIP compliant. I *think* that’s the whole point of ToIP.
Drummond Reed
01:06:15
YES!!!
Scott Whitmire
01:06:52
+1 Scott Perry!!!
Nicky Hickman
01:08:00
+1 Drummond, unfortunately I don't think VC's are a good scope - a particular solution
Jim StClair
01:08:06
that's why we establish ratification
Drummond Reed
01:08:11
+1
Drummond Reed
01:08:24
All good, thanks for a great session
Karen Hand
01:08:47
thanks all
Steven Milstein
01:09:02
thanks everyone