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Writing critically about the literature: Part one - Shared screen with speaker view
Nicole Phelan
15:52
Welcome to tonight's webinar "Writing Critically About The Literature"
Frederick Anlimah
16:17
Thank. Its morning here in Ghana
Nicole Phelan
16:22
If you have any questions for Cassily please use the Q&A box that displays on your screen
Nicole Phelan
16:32
If you have any technically issues please let me know here
Nicole Phelan
21:25
https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HANDOUTCriticalWriting.pdf
Nicole Phelan
21:34
Hi all here is the link to the handout
Huong NGUYEN
23:44
Hi, I am the second year Ph.D student in Flinders Uni working in Gender and Women's studies. Thanks
Joanne Walters
24:05
Joanne in Newcastle in speech pathology. Sitting here with my mini schausser Oscar!
Macey Barratt
24:15
hi, my name is macey, I am a phd student in nursing, i live on a farm near canberra with miniature ponies
chintan Advani
24:19
Chintan here from Brisbane. I am doing my PhD in transportation Engineering at QUT. I am very hungry and will cook some delicious food after workshop. LOL
Rui Huang
24:21
Hi, Rui from Curtin University, Australia. Mainly focus on the bit rock interaction under petroleum engineering.
Winnie Agnew-Pauley
24:22
Winnie, London, I have a criminology background currently conducting a PhD in policing. I just bought a bike this week and have loved cycling around London as a change to public transport
Emma Rees
24:23
Hi, I am Emma. In my first year of studying a PhD at QUT about Child Sexual Exploitation.
Mandira Mishra
24:23
Hi, My name is Mandira and I am doing my PhD in Psychology. Currently remote learning in India! One human fact about me is that I love baking cookies! :)
Danielle Burns
24:25
Hi, I’m Danielle. Secondary music teacher doing a Doc Ed researching primary music with UNDA. Have 3 cats and a dog and one 22 yo still at home.
Linda McGowan
24:27
I am Linda from Fremantle and my area of research is social history. I love cats
Manula Senevirathne
24:37
I'm Manula from Sri Lanka and doing the PhD in critical accounting history study at QUT, Brisbane.
Anita Moore
24:41
Hi, I am a first year Phd at QUT in urban planning in Brisbane. I am also battling an aphid invasion in my garden
Gihan Gunasekara
24:44
Gihan from Flinders University, Adelaide - Research Officer and PhD candidate (Cyber Security, Digital Health)
Annie Hepworth
24:45
Hi I'm Annie from Sydney studying delirium. Came home today to our little Schnoodle who had got into the polystyrene left over from a new printer! It didn't snow!
Danielle Burns
24:51
2/3 gone thankfully lol. Oh, I’m in Western Sydney too
Alexandra Giraldo
24:52
I'm in Wollongong, PHD student in Bioengineering. How wearable devices improve movement performance. About me: I do circus and dance for hobbies.
Lyn Chakerian
25:01
Hi All,, Lyn from Sydney, nursing background, commenced PhD this year at UTS.
Yasamin Asadi
25:04
MPhil student in Human-Computer Interaction at QUT, Brisbane. Currently cooking dinner as I’m watching the seminar!
Cathy Malla
25:11
Hi there, I'm in third year in public health at Flinders. Living in Darwin. I do synchronised swimming for fun.
Alanoud Alobaidly
25:13
Hi I;m Alanoud, all the way from Kuwait, studying at Flinders University SA, but stuck here during data collection because of COVID travel restrictions. I'm interested in T2DM treatment via bariatric surgery
Sreya Santhakumar
25:17
Hi. I’m a 3rd yr PhD student with University of Notre Dame in WA, focusing on treatments for neurotrauma.
Camila Rinaldi
25:24
Hi! I'm a MPhil student second year at QUT Brisbane studying about gender and inclusive advertising. Watching the workshop from Uni :) lol
Yanuar Primanda
25:34
Hi, I am Prima, the first year PhD of nursing student in Queensland University of Technology. I am from Indonesia and my research is about discharge planning among people with type 2 DM. Thanks.
Kam Cheong Wong
25:45
Kam Wong, Bathurst NSW. PhD at USyd
Kate Greenwood
25:59
Hi everyone my name is Kate Greenwood I’m a masters by research student looking at culturally modified trees in southeast Queensland. I’m based on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland. My almost 15 year old staffie might pop in during the seminar.
Anggelia Essi Christian
26:07
Hi, I am Essi from Indonesia. I am first year PhD student at Flinders University. My project is in micro/nanoplastics identification methods. I do love music, playing piano and singing.
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
26:15
Hi all Kate here from Adelaide Hills, research phd on bereavement support, Flinders University. I have had to light the fire tonight
chintan Advani
27:24
Convey our work in an appropriate way
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
27:30
helps me to understand multiple persepctives
Manula Senevirathne
27:32
To convince the reader about research problem
Gihan Gunasekara
27:33
for Academic papers
Kate Greenwood
27:34
It’s necessary as part of my research
Emma Rees
27:43
To It demonstrates an opinion about academic work to inform research formulation. Getting the question right, appropriate to the need of the research
Winnie Agnew-Pauley
27:47
Finding gaps in knowledge
Maria Khan
27:51
Challenges existing assumptions and provides a deeper understanding
Huong NGUYEN
27:51
It helps to concisely write and make arguement
Anita Moore
27:52
As a process to inform/understand
Rui Huang
27:54
for thesis or paper
Sreya Santhakumar
27:58
It allows me to elucidate important and accurate information from my readings
Peter Weir
28:02
Peter from Ballarat, 1y PhD, spatio-temporal soil moisture at sub-paddock level - Ag Research
Samia Michail
28:13
Being comprehensive in my thinking
Danielle Burns
28:19
My supervisor is a literacy guru and I have a high bar to hit :)
Abdullah Bin Sawad
28:34
to make my writing structure better
Emma Rees
33:28
It has to be evaluative not descriptive
Cindy Turner
33:32
it includes analysis and not just a description
Sonia Curll
33:36
draws different sources together in a meaningful way
Jennifer Kruwinnus
33:37
evaluate other's contribution in a critical manner
Samia Michail
33:55
Integrated knowledge
Gihan Gunasekara
33:59
backed by facts...
Kanchana Wijayawardena
34:02
building arguments
Anggelia Essi Christian
34:23
Finding the author position and finding our own position with strong arguments and evidences
Emma Rees
43:31
Helpful and congruent to tasks
Cindy Turner
43:59
can it be critical without any of the other 3?
Alanoud Alobaidly
44:08
broke it down in a simple and very informative way.. thank you
Samia Michail
45:17
Can you miss the persuasive level - as in take a position in relation to the other position?
isabella sheman
55:11
when is the lit review workshop?
Alexandra Giraldo
55:17
yes
Danielle Burns
55:17
All good here
Lyn Chakerian
55:18
Sound is clear
Samia Michail
55:18
All good here
Manula Senevirathne
55:19
yes
Anggelia Essi Christian
55:19
yes
Jayotsna Kalra
55:21
Yes
Rui Huang
55:22
Yes
Sreya Santhakumar
55:22
Audio’s all clear
Joanne Walters
55:35
all good
Cindy Turner
55:40
its good
Kam Cheong Wong
55:45
can everyone post their question to "all panellists and attendees" because we missed some questions directed to panellist only
Cindy Turner
55:52
i don't see all the questions though so can you read them out in full
Valentina Bertotti
56:19
Isabella you can watch the LR workshop online - it was recorded
Yanuar Primanda
57:04
How about systematic review workshop?
isabella sheman
57:33
where can the LR workshop be found online?
Nicole Phelan
57:53
https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HANDOUTCriticalWriting.pdf
Valentina Bertotti
58:25
on their websites there is a link to old webinars
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
58:46
persuasive
Sreya Santhakumar
59:08
Persuasive
Sonia Curll
59:09
persuasive
Anggelia Essi Christian
59:11
persuasive
Cindy Turner
59:12
analytical
Alanoud Alobaidly
59:13
persuasive
Joanne Walters
59:17
analytical
Alison Dymmott
59:20
analytical
Samia Michail
59:22
persuasive
Amanda Daluwatta
59:24
analytical
Emma Rees
59:25
analytical
Jennifer Kruwinnus
59:31
analytical
Maria Khan
59:32
analytical
Jayotsna Kalra
59:36
It is more descriptive
Rui Huang
59:39
analytical
Valentina Bertotti
59:50
descriptive, analytical and persuasive
Cindy Turner
59:51
or maye the first sentence makes it persuasive
Kate Greenwood
59:51
descriptive
Manula Senevirathne
59:53
descriptive
Frederick Anlimah
01:00:00
critical
hassan almathami
01:00:02
critical
Alexandra Giraldo
01:00:08
Analytical
SIEW HONG CHAI
01:00:10
persuasive
Abdullah Bin Sawad
01:00:15
analytical
Danielle Burns
01:00:28
I think the first sentence is descriptive then it moves to a persuasive voice
Huong NGUYEN
01:00:49
descriptive and persuasive
Ni Wayan Utami
01:00:53
persuasive
Clara Rivera
01:01:18
There are references to other authors.
Alexandra Giraldo
01:01:42
There are 2 references but it is not critical. Because it's not giving an argument.
Nuwan Suriyaarachchi
01:01:50
persuasive
Nuwan Suriyaarachchi
01:02:41
two references but no own opinion
Camila Rinaldi
01:03:05
yes, on the last sentence
Valentina Bertotti
01:03:07
not critical yes
Cindy Turner
01:03:08
potentially important
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
01:03:13
yes they have last line
Valentina Bertotti
01:03:18
potentially important and might
Sonia Curll
01:03:19
building towards a claim in last sentence
Kam Cheong Wong
01:03:21
Thus, potentially the absence of the 70 kDa SUK4 kinesin and the twist of the central pair microtubules in tcp1 may be related.
Jayotsna Kalra
01:03:22
Yes at the end.
Andilip Afroze
01:03:25
last line
Camila Rinaldi
01:04:05
is that tentative language? :)
Camila Rinaldi
01:05:02
thanks
Kam Cheong Wong
01:06:44
Could it be just a hypothesis instead of a claim?
Annie Hepworth
01:10:07
could we do one more
Clara Rivera
01:10:14
Yes do one more please. Thanks.
Jennifer Kruwinnus
01:10:15
yes, one more please
Kam Cheong Wong
01:10:15
one more
Cindy Turner
01:10:17
,aybe one more quickly
Emma Rees
01:10:22
keen to practice again
Sonia Curll
01:10:50
critical
Valentina Bertotti
01:10:59
analytical?
Anggelia Essi Christian
01:11:00
critical
Huong NGUYEN
01:11:14
analytical
Sonia Curll
01:11:16
Text C is descriptive
Clara Rivera
01:11:27
analytical
Joanne Walters
01:11:35
analytical
Manula Senevirathne
01:11:37
B critical
SIEW HONG CHAI
01:11:38
critical
Kimchheng Song
01:11:41
analytical
Jayotsna Kalra
01:11:41
It is descriptive as well as analytical
Andilip Afroze
01:11:42
Analytic
Lijun Summerhayes
01:11:44
Text B - critical
Rui Huang
01:11:44
critical
Damian Chandia-Poblete
01:11:46
text B is analytical
Camila Rinaldi
01:11:47
Text B seems critical to me
Kate Toone
01:11:47
B analytical C descriptive
Emma Rees
01:11:49
analytical
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
01:11:51
text B critical
Alison Dymmott
01:11:57
i wonder if the last sentence makes it persuasive? but otherwise analytical
Jennifer Kruwinnus
01:12:08
critical
Clara Rivera
01:12:10
Text B Analytical: summarises other research and makes a judgment
Maria Khan
01:12:11
B - critical C - descriptive
Cindy Turner
01:12:13
critical
Peter Weir
01:12:16
B critical C descriptive
Manula Senevirathne
01:12:18
c Descriptive
Danielle Burns
01:12:19
I’m voting descriptive
Damian Chandia-Poblete
01:12:20
Text C is descriptive
Frederick Anlimah
01:12:21
analytical
Andilip Afroze
01:12:24
C: descriptive
isabella sheman
01:12:27
text is descriptive
Clara Rivera
01:12:38
Text C is descriptive.
isabella sheman
01:12:38
text c descriptive
Samia Michail
01:12:48
B: Critical
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
01:13:10
B- did not consider, are likely to have contributed
Samia Michail
01:13:31
“Did not consider”
Valentina Bertotti
01:13:39
it is just saying there may be a lack of data
Rui Huang
01:13:42
Phongsava, Merom et al (2004) did not consider household
Valentina Bertotti
01:13:48
but its not criticising authors' stances per se
Lijun Summerhayes
01:13:49
B - Critical, includes author’s voice of “…..are likely to have contributed to the lack of consensus…
Rui Huang
01:13:53
are likely to have contributed to
Sonia Curll
01:14:51
identified gap and mixed findings and evaluating why may be so
Ni Wayan Utami
01:15:35
b: persusivec: descriptive
Cindy Turner
01:15:44
what is persuasive in B
Samia Michail
01:15:44
Yes, makes sense and very useful tool
Anggelia Essi Christian
01:15:56
all good
Frederick Anlimah
01:16:09
am good but still difficult to identify the various types
Sreya Santhakumar
01:16:28
How do you distinguish between a persuasive piece that is using alternative arguments to emphasise/support the author’s claim and actual critical writing where it’s a presentation of multiple positions? I.e. how much ‘critical language’ needs to be present for the piece to be considered critical?
Valentina Bertotti
01:16:31
so finding a GAP is enough to be critical??? it doesn't actually have to engage with other authors' ideas/claims???
Andilip Afroze
01:16:44
Critical and Analytical seems confusing
Rui Huang
01:17:46
analytical don't have own opinion
Valentina Bertotti
01:18:29
I think I find this piece confusing because I just thought it was explaining why there is a gap in literature
Valentina Bertotti
01:18:47
versus engaging and critically analysing other scholars' ideas...
Danielle Burns
01:18:54
I agree with you Valentina
Danielle Burns
01:19:21
That’s why I went for the descriptive option. I see the other point of view though
Valentina Bertotti
01:19:27
thank you Danielle :) I feel less dumb now ;)
isabella sheman
01:19:37
Critical and Analytical seems confusing - i agree with this
Valentina Bertotti
01:20:50
no it was more confusing between analytical versus critical
Valentina Bertotti
01:21:26
it seems its a fine line between the two
Samia Michail
01:22:22
C: makes a claim without argument…therefore still persuasive not just written well?
Valentina Bertotti
01:22:43
or at the same time, these people didn't identify this and that...
Frederick Anlimah
01:22:53
what about comparing the two ideas?
Valentina Bertotti
01:22:57
ok, thanks a million
Valentina Bertotti
01:23:00
sorry to be a pain
Huong NGUYEN
01:23:15
dicriptive
Danielle Burns
01:23:15
no
Valentina Bertotti
01:23:24
no its just descriptive isn't it
Sonia Curll
01:23:24
does say its 'suitable' - so taking a position??
isabella sheman
01:23:27
so with critical writing even if it is a sentence so show your opinion in your lit review?
Lijun Summerhayes
01:23:30
C - descriptive
Alanoud Alobaidly
01:23:32
text c: analytical
Rui Huang
01:23:33
a suitable framework- own voice?
Andilip Afroze
01:23:35
Suitable
Jayotsna Kalra
01:23:38
No I don't think so.
Danielle Burns
01:24:02
It’s not enough explanation of why it’s a suitable framework
Nuwan Suriyaarachchi
01:25:37
C: Descriptive, no analysis part
Anggelia Essi Christian
01:26:38
text C could be either descriptive or analytical depends on the original model of Gnyawali & Fogel
Kam Cheong Wong
01:28:17
Extracted from the words of Watson and Crick (Nobel prize winners for DNA discovery): "It has not escaped our notice that the specific pairing that we have postulated immediately suggests a possible copying mechanism for the genetic material."
Tanapond Swanpitak
01:29:01
So B is critical and C is analytical, right?
Anggelia Essi Christian
01:29:07
if text C is paraphrasing the model, means text C is descriptive. But, if text C is a grouping from the model and present the factors as group, means text C is analytical
Kate Greenwood
01:34:57
Is the whole thesis, as in all the chapters supposed to be critical or just the literature review?
isabella sheman
01:36:07
where can we find the other workshops recorded online?
isabella sheman
01:36:11
will we go through examples of writing for the difference between persuasive writing and critical writing?
Valentina Bertotti
01:36:51
Isabella, if you go on the CRC home page, you will find a link to recorded webinars
Valentina Bertotti
01:38:18
under the EDUCATION tab there is a link to webinars, scroll down and there will be another link to "older entries"
Nicole Phelan
01:39:18
You can get the recordings for previous webinars from our website https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/webinars/
isabella sheman
01:40:10
thank you found it
Tanapond Swanpitak
01:40:18
if there are 2 different claims (not include my claim), is this critical or persuasive?
Valentina Bertotti
01:40:21
great ;)
isabella sheman
01:40:47
it is quiet difficult to navigate and search to find previous webinars
Nicole Phelan
01:42:16
You can get the recordings for previous webinars from our website https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/webinars/
Clara Rivera
01:42:29
Can you give us access to an annotation of what makes the other example texts critical, persuasive, analytical or descriptive?
Danielle Burns
01:42:53
Great stuff, thanks heaps Cassily
Maria Khan
01:42:55
thank you
Clara Rivera
01:42:55
Thank you, Cassily.
Kimchheng Song
01:42:55
Thank you
Lyn Chakerian
01:42:56
Thank you
Alanoud Alobaidly
01:42:56
thank you.. see you tomorrow!
Sreya Santhakumar
01:42:59
Thank you Cassily!
Nuwan Suriyaarachchi
01:42:59
Thanks you
Anggelia Essi Christian
01:43:02
Thank you
Joanne Walters
01:43:03
Thanks!
Rui Huang
01:43:05
Thanks
Valentina Bertotti
01:43:06
thank you So much
Manula Senevirathne
01:43:06
Thank you so much Cassiley
Annie Hepworth
01:43:06
Thanks Cassily.
Andilip Afroze
01:43:13
Thank you
Jennifer Kruwinnus
01:43:14
Thank you!
Tanapond Swanpitak
01:43:14
Thanks
Nawaf Almutairi
01:43:28
thank you so much
Kathleen (Kate) Jurgens
01:43:28
thank you
Jayotsna Kalra
01:43:36
Thank you so much. See you tomorrow.
Saud Alshammari
01:43:41
Thank you, Cassily!
Ni Wayan Utami
01:43:44
thank you for the session