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Welcome to tonight's webinar "Writing Critically About The Literature"

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Thank. Its morning here in Ghana

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If you have any questions for Cassily please use the Q&A box that displays on your screen

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If you have any technically issues please let me know here

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https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HANDOUTCriticalWriting.pdf

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Hi all here is the link to the handout

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Hi, I am the second year Ph.D student in Flinders Uni working in Gender and Women's studies. Thanks

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Joanne in Newcastle in speech pathology. Sitting here with my mini schausser Oscar!

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hi, my name is macey, I am a phd student in nursing, i live on a farm near canberra with miniature ponies

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Chintan here from Brisbane. I am doing my PhD in transportation Engineering at QUT. I am very hungry and will cook some delicious food after workshop. LOL

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Hi, Rui from Curtin University, Australia. Mainly focus on the bit rock interaction under petroleum engineering.

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Winnie, London, I have a criminology background currently conducting a PhD in policing. I just bought a bike this week and have loved cycling around London as a change to public transport

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Hi, I am Emma. In my first year of studying a PhD at QUT about Child Sexual Exploitation.

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Hi, My name is Mandira and I am doing my PhD in Psychology. Currently remote learning in India! One human fact about me is that I love baking cookies! :)

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Hi, I’m Danielle. Secondary music teacher doing a Doc Ed researching primary music with UNDA. Have 3 cats and a dog and one 22 yo still at home.

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I am Linda from Fremantle and my area of research is social history. I love cats

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I'm Manula from Sri Lanka and doing the PhD in critical accounting history study at QUT, Brisbane.

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Hi, I am a first year Phd at QUT in urban planning in Brisbane. I am also battling an aphid invasion in my garden

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Gihan from Flinders University, Adelaide - Research Officer and PhD candidate (Cyber Security, Digital Health)

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Hi I'm Annie from Sydney studying delirium. Came home today to our little Schnoodle who had got into the polystyrene left over from a new printer! It didn't snow!

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2/3 gone thankfully lol. Oh, I’m in Western Sydney too

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I'm in Wollongong, PHD student in Bioengineering. How wearable devices improve movement performance. About me: I do circus and dance for hobbies.

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Hi All,, Lyn from Sydney, nursing background, commenced PhD this year at UTS.

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MPhil student in Human-Computer Interaction at QUT, Brisbane. Currently cooking dinner as I’m watching the seminar!

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Hi there, I'm in third year in public health at Flinders. Living in Darwin. I do synchronised swimming for fun.

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Hi I;m Alanoud, all the way from Kuwait, studying at Flinders University SA, but stuck here during data collection because of COVID travel restrictions. I'm interested in T2DM treatment via bariatric surgery

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Hi. I’m a 3rd yr PhD student with University of Notre Dame in WA, focusing on treatments for neurotrauma.

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Hi! I'm a MPhil student second year at QUT Brisbane studying about gender and inclusive advertising. Watching the workshop from Uni :) lol

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Hi, I am Prima, the first year PhD of nursing student in Queensland University of Technology. I am from Indonesia and my research is about discharge planning among people with type 2 DM. Thanks.

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Kam Wong, Bathurst NSW. PhD at USyd

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Hi everyone my name is Kate Greenwood I’m a masters by research student looking at culturally modified trees in southeast Queensland. I’m based on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland. My almost 15 year old staffie might pop in during the seminar.

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Hi, I am Essi from Indonesia. I am first year PhD student at Flinders University. My project is in micro/nanoplastics identification methods. I do love music, playing piano and singing.

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Hi all Kate here from Adelaide Hills, research phd on bereavement support, Flinders University. I have had to light the fire tonight

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Convey our work in an appropriate way

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helps me to understand multiple persepctives

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To convince the reader about research problem

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for Academic papers

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It’s necessary as part of my research

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To It demonstrates an opinion about academic work to inform research formulation. Getting the question right, appropriate to the need of the research

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Finding gaps in knowledge

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Challenges existing assumptions and provides a deeper understanding

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It helps to concisely write and make arguement

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As a process to inform/understand

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for thesis or paper

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It allows me to elucidate important and accurate information from my readings

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Peter from Ballarat, 1y PhD, spatio-temporal soil moisture at sub-paddock level - Ag Research

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Being comprehensive in my thinking

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My supervisor is a literacy guru and I have a high bar to hit :)

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to make my writing structure better

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It has to be evaluative not descriptive

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it includes analysis and not just a description

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draws different sources together in a meaningful way

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evaluate other's contribution in a critical manner

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Integrated knowledge

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backed by facts...

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building arguments

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Finding the author position and finding our own position with strong arguments and evidences

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Helpful and congruent to tasks

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can it be critical without any of the other 3?

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broke it down in a simple and very informative way.. thank you

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Can you miss the persuasive level - as in take a position in relation to the other position?

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when is the lit review workshop?

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yes

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All good here

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Sound is clear

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All good here

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yes

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yes

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Yes

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Yes

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Audio’s all clear

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all good

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its good

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can everyone post their question to "all panellists and attendees" because we missed some questions directed to panellist only

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i don't see all the questions though so can you read them out in full

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Isabella you can watch the LR workshop online - it was recorded

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How about systematic review workshop?

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where can the LR workshop be found online?

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https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/HANDOUTCriticalWriting.pdf

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on their websites there is a link to old webinars

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persuasive

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Persuasive

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persuasive

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persuasive

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analytical

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persuasive

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analytical

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analytical

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persuasive

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analytical

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analytical

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analytical

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analytical

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It is more descriptive

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analytical

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descriptive, analytical and persuasive

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or maye the first sentence makes it persuasive

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descriptive

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descriptive

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critical

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critical

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Analytical

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persuasive

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analytical

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I think the first sentence is descriptive then it moves to a persuasive voice

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descriptive and persuasive

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persuasive

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There are references to other authors.

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There are 2 references but it is not critical. Because it's not giving an argument.

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persuasive

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two references but no own opinion

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yes, on the last sentence

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not critical yes

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potentially important

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yes they have last line

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potentially important and might

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building towards a claim in last sentence

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Thus, potentially the absence of the 70 kDa SUK4 kinesin and the twist of the central pair microtubules in tcp1 may be related.

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Yes at the end.

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last line

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is that tentative language? :)

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thanks

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Could it be just a hypothesis instead of a claim?

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could we do one more

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Yes do one more please. Thanks.

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yes, one more please

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one more

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,aybe one more quickly

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keen to practice again

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critical

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analytical?

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critical

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analytical

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Text C is descriptive

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analytical

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analytical

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B critical

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critical

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analytical

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It is descriptive as well as analytical

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Analytic

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Text B - critical

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critical

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text B is analytical

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Text B seems critical to me

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B analytical C descriptive

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analytical

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text B critical

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i wonder if the last sentence makes it persuasive? but otherwise analytical

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critical

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Text B Analytical: summarises other research and makes a judgment

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B - critical C - descriptive

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critical

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B critical C descriptive

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c Descriptive

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I’m voting descriptive

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Text C is descriptive

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analytical

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C: descriptive

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text is descriptive

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Text C is descriptive.

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text c descriptive

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B: Critical

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B- did not consider, are likely to have contributed

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“Did not consider”

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it is just saying there may be a lack of data

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Phongsava, Merom et al (2004) did not consider household

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but its not criticising authors' stances per se

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B - Critical, includes author’s voice of “…..are likely to have contributed to the lack of consensus…

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are likely to have contributed to

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identified gap and mixed findings and evaluating why may be so

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b: persusivec: descriptive

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what is persuasive in B

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Yes, makes sense and very useful tool

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all good

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am good but still difficult to identify the various types

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How do you distinguish between a persuasive piece that is using alternative arguments to emphasise/support the author’s claim and actual critical writing where it’s a presentation of multiple positions? I.e. how much ‘critical language’ needs to be present for the piece to be considered critical?

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so finding a GAP is enough to be critical??? it doesn't actually have to engage with other authors' ideas/claims???

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Critical and Analytical seems confusing

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analytical don't have own opinion

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I think I find this piece confusing because I just thought it was explaining why there is a gap in literature

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versus engaging and critically analysing other scholars' ideas...

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I agree with you Valentina

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That’s why I went for the descriptive option. I see the other point of view though

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thank you Danielle :) I feel less dumb now ;)

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Critical and Analytical seems confusing - i agree with this

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no it was more confusing between analytical versus critical

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it seems its a fine line between the two

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C: makes a claim without argument…therefore still persuasive not just written well?

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or at the same time, these people didn't identify this and that...

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what about comparing the two ideas?

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ok, thanks a million

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sorry to be a pain

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dicriptive

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no

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no its just descriptive isn't it

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does say its 'suitable' - so taking a position??

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so with critical writing even if it is a sentence so show your opinion in your lit review?

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C - descriptive

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text c: analytical

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a suitable framework- own voice?

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Suitable

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No I don't think so.

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It’s not enough explanation of why it’s a suitable framework

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C: Descriptive, no analysis part

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text C could be either descriptive or analytical depends on the original model of Gnyawali & Fogel

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Extracted from the words of Watson and Crick (Nobel prize winners for DNA discovery): "It has not escaped our notice that the specific pairing that we have postulated immediately suggests a possible copying mechanism for the genetic material."

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So B is critical and C is analytical, right?

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if text C is paraphrasing the model, means text C is descriptive. But, if text C is a grouping from the model and present the factors as group, means text C is analytical

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Is the whole thesis, as in all the chapters supposed to be critical or just the literature review?

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where can we find the other workshops recorded online?

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will we go through examples of writing for the difference between persuasive writing and critical writing?

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Isabella, if you go on the CRC home page, you will find a link to recorded webinars

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under the EDUCATION tab there is a link to webinars, scroll down and there will be another link to "older entries"

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You can get the recordings for previous webinars from our website https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/webinars/

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thank you found it

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if there are 2 different claims (not include my claim), is this critical or persuasive?

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great ;)

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it is quiet difficult to navigate and search to find previous webinars

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You can get the recordings for previous webinars from our website https://www.digitalhealthcrc.com/webinars/

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Can you give us access to an annotation of what makes the other example texts critical, persuasive, analytical or descriptive?

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Great stuff, thanks heaps Cassily

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thank you

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Thank you, Cassily.

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Thank you

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Thank you

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thank you.. see you tomorrow!

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Thank you Cassily!

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Thanks you

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Thank you

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Thanks!

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Thanks

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thank you So much

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Thank you so much Cassiley

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Thanks Cassily.

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Thank you

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Thank you!

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Thanks

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thank you so much

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thank you

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Thank you so much. See you tomorrow.

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Thank you, Cassily!

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thank you for the session