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Skills for Strength 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Trudie Pandolfo
01:19:20
Is this being recorded? It would be good to share with comrades who can't attend
Wendy Guest
01:40:58
thanks Karen
Sharon Webster
01:43:33
un able to use my phone
Elizabeth Cameron
01:46:49
Hi Sharon Webster xx
Conor McGurran
02:07:34
Digital organising is a huge opportunity for us to reach members we'd have never got to before. And then to connect them with others across the region
Sam Doherty
02:07:36
Reaching people in hard to reach locations and on inconsistent shift patterns, including remote workers like drivers
tracey rheged
02:07:39
you can build a community relationship where members can address their concerns outside the workplace in a safe space
Kevin Lucas
02:07:50
gather workers online who stuggle to make traditional union meetings
Dan Smith
02:07:51
Trying to organising fragmented and isolated sectors - like social care and schools
Kate Ramsden
02:07:52
Reaching more members and engaging with them on their issues of concern.
Bernard Murphy
02:07:56
easier to access especially in multiple site organisations
Glen Williams
02:08:09
Greater outreach at times suitable to workers
imogen
02:08:11
It's been really useful to mobilize workers in fragmented work places. Particularly in social care, it means we can have collective meetings for workers who wouldn't have been able to meet for practical reasons before.
Adam Hodgson
02:08:39
To be able to have important conversations at times that work for people, rather than trying to get people on their lunch break or chatting when their manager is out of the room.
tracey rheged
02:08:41
most young people use social groups online to communicate and it is a easy way to recruit and organise with new members
Carl Phillips
02:10:12
we can also reach disabled members who can not get to physical events
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:10:13
https://wearesocial.com/uk/blog/2019/03/digital-in-the-uk-data-and-learnings-for-2019https://avocadosocial.com/latest-social-media-statistics-and-demographics-for-the-uk-in-2019/
John Flannery
02:13:43
I've spent 7.3 hours on social media in last week
Nixon Tod
02:13:45
does anyone use Fb messenger anymore? most people I know use whatsapp
tracey rheged
02:14:08
I do as dislike whatsapp
Carol
02:14:13
I do
Paula Carlyle
02:14:19
We use both Nixon. Different groups use different ones. I prefer whatsapp
Anne
02:14:23
WhatsApp all the way over messenger
Carl Phillips
02:14:41
I use both,
Bernard Murphy
02:14:51
Agree, people setting up WhatsApp groups more than FB
Sharon Webster
02:15:33
I use all of them
Patricia O'Hara
02:15:41
I use facebook messenger and whatsapp
Michelle England (she/her)
02:15:54
so many people get hacked on FB I don't open anything on messenger anymore
Valery Alzaga
02:15:59
Dumpster diving!
Dan Smith
02:15:59
Trying to find a staff list / rota
Stephen
02:16:40
WhatsApp all the way here in the UK. Though at the beginning of the pandemic a union organised, but open to all FaceBook group was very popular
Sam Doherty
02:18:13
Think it's a different question. You can find and message somebody on Facebook just with their name. For WhatsApp you ned to get their number which is obviously much, much more difficult
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:19:23
In addition, you can identify hand raisers who are commenting on campaign related content on Facebook
Conor McGurran
02:20:13
A lot of our members are on Facebook and use facebook messenger- I think we have to be on all platforms where our members are, try not to rule anything out based on your own personal preference.Facebook is an easier platform to spot potential activists and WhatsApp groups is a better way to communicate with experienced activists in my experience.
tracey rheged
02:21:10
i share Unison to work mates online to show what we are doing in the send to bit in messenger.
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:21:59
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fa349327-bdee-489b-ae44-da4f808d82b8
Charlotte Wood (Lancashire Police)
02:22:47
Tik tok is the only social media I use
John Flannery
02:23:22
There's scope for both WhatsApp and Facebook, as they have their pro/cons. WhatsApp is good for a discussion thread on a single topic, whereas Facebook allows a number of discussion threads using separate posts.
Lindsay B
02:25:28
I agree with Conor we must use all social media platforms to get messages out to members. During a ballot we contact members via facebook, whats app, texts and good old fashopned phone calls. Using every tool at our disposal has proved successful and ballot outcomes have all been over the legal threshold in the NW. Most at 100% turnout.
Glen Williams
02:26:33
FMLA?
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:26:58
Family and Medical Leave Act here in the U.S
Glen Williams
02:27:08
Thanks
anthony.lockhart
02:29:01
what are CPS
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:29:07
Chicago Public Schools
ray
02:29:07
is this all about walmart
jlewis2
02:29:56
There are reservations around using social media platforms due to organisations 'social media policys' that could end in disciplinary action - need to look at how we can protect activies against employer backlash
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:30:08
We are about to enter into a case study on Toys R Us retail workers, but many different sectors have used digital organizing spanning from gig workers to teachers
John Flannery
02:30:42
Striking a balance is really difficult, when we use our personal social media accounts, as messages come in at all hours.
Lorcan Mullen
02:30:50
That's a really important point. We need to know how to operate usefully online, especially under current restrictions, but we can't confuse this with deep organising that builds union organisation at a workplace / site / employer level.
Anne
02:32:17
You can set up facebook as a work profile and with WhatsApp you can use it on a works phone...however, there are options to mute notifications on both facebook and WhatsApp if you are using your personal number and want to be able to switch off.
Laura Heaton (she/hers)
02:36:46
I think using multiple platforms of social media then making things more personal is key to engagement
Paula Carlyle
02:37:45
Thank you Bianka & Mari, even though our branch already uses social media platforms but this has still given me a few more good ideas for how we can improve :-)
Valery Alzaga
02:37:50
it’s helpful to create a work profile rather than use our own
tracey rheged
02:38:48
no
jlewis2
02:39:11
No, I'm not aware of this issue
Kevin Lucas
02:40:17
private equity rampant in Uk Adult social care and early years education
tracey rheged
02:40:44
they run everything for profit
Carl Phillips
02:40:56
they did the same to the uk stores
Tiwanak
02:41:12
most are based off shore for tax evasion purposes
Valery Alzaga
02:41:12
The split their companies into pieces, some are in debt so they don’t have to pay taxes
Mari Ocampo (O2O) She/Her
02:41:14
There’s pros and cons to creating a separate work profile, people you are contacting are more likely to connect if they see an active Facebook profile that is used. So just keeping that in mind, I.e. a work profile that has 5 friends and newly created versus a personal account that has several hundred friends and several years of origin
tracey rheged
02:41:39
they did the same to a print firm, asset stripped it and then closed it.
Valery Alzaga
02:41:54
good point Mari!
Glen Williams
02:42:07
Private Equity Firms rarely pay tax in their own country but off-shore it to the likes of the Cayman Isles!!!
mick mckeown
02:45:31
I've been watching US comedy tv show called superstore, its quite funny and makes some telling comments on precarity and union organising in that sector
Magda /Salford City UNISON
02:47:32
Hi Mick, totally agree on Superstore - both for understanding the American situation for workers, but also for highlighting responses
mick mckeown
02:48:13
Cheers Magda :)
Steven North
02:51:39
What channel/platform is it on Magda/Mick?
Magda /Salford City UNISON
02:51:47
Netflix
Steven North
02:51:59
Cheers Magda. Will check it out.
Magda /Salford City UNISON
02:52:05
(its also quite funny, btw!)
mick mckeown
02:53:02
Its a few episodes in before the idea of union organising comes up, then a very good episode on staff walkout and management response
Magda /Salford City UNISON
02:56:06
but its so rare for a comedy series to include a lot fo stuff around staff conditions and organising. A personal favourite is the breastfeeding sit-in - something that is just part of the comedy, but was a radical tool for women several decades ago.
tracey rheged
03:01:46
Thank you very much so fascinating.
Dan Smith
03:01:47
Brilliant session - very interesting and inspiring
Conor McGurran
03:01:48
Amazing presentation- thanks Bianka & Mari
Valery Alzaga
03:02:04
Gracias compañeras!
Matt Jenkinson
03:02:13
Brilliant input from Bianka and Mari. Thanks
Ollie Hopkins
03:02:18
Great session thanks
Kate Ramsden
03:02:26
Thanks that's been great. Generated a lot of ideas on how to use these strategies.
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:02:52
For anyone who wants to connect: bianka@united4respect.org mari@united4respect.org
Carl Greatbatch
03:03:00
Excellent session, thanks Bianka and Mari
jlewis2
03:27:02
That's a fantastic achievement - well done
Kevin Lucas
03:27:42
incredible numbers of new reps and activists trained - amazing work Scotland!!!!
tracey rheged
03:27:47
brilliant work, i'm a new female Health and Safety Rep in the NW.
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:29:39
Thanks. Good session. Amazing work.
Kevan Nelson
03:29:42
Great organising work by the union in Scotland. A critical organising and political campaigning issue for us. Excellent Covid-19 H&S resources here: https://www.ier.org.uk/coronavirus-and-work/ http://www.hazardscampaign.org.uk/blog/covid-19-a-workers-court
Glen Williams
03:32:08
Jennifer - be interested in strategies to sustain all those new recruits - thanks.
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:33:51
There are also a lot of reasons for not responding to a survey online, but this is amazing. Trial and error and understanding how your folks may interact online is a huge learning coming out of this too
Jennifer McCarey
03:34:11
Yes Glen, that essential, we hope our activist regional education programme will help, but more than that working together in branches, shadowing, coaching and encouraging. that's what we hope our inspection campaign will do.
Glen Williams
03:36:09
Thanks Jennifer - good luck
Chris
03:36:30
How have you been tracking peer recruitment?
Kate Ramsden
03:37:27
Hi Glen. Our branch had a big engagement amongst our school support staff members and working with our H&S officer on the H&S inspections. They have set up a closed Facebook group which is very active with regular meetings. Getting some good ideas about how we can maybe build on that.
Valery Alzaga
03:38:14
@Bianka - can you elaborate on what are reasons for not doing surveys online?
Matt Jenkinson
03:39:09
I'd be interested to know if anyone has found particular times are better for contacting people on social media. I've tended to go for 8-9am before folks get stuck into their work day, lunch time, and 8pm (ish) once they've had their tea and before they settle in with relaxing into their evening. Any thoughts?
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:39:25
Not for not doing surveys, we believe in surveys because it’s a great list building tactic, and a way to understand how workers feel about an issue, but reasons why a survey might not be distributed “successfully” online
Valery Alzaga
03:39:42
ah ok!
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:40:17
Great times to reach out will vary depending on the industry, but to your point Matt, that morning breakfast time is great, lunch times between 11am-2pm are a great time to connect, and right after work (depending on the shift).
Anne
03:41:01
@matt Jenkinson In the facebook group I currently run, the best engagement is 2-3pm and 8-9pm - these are shift workers
tracey rheged
03:44:40
Thank you
Steven North
03:45:05
Good luck with your work in the West Mids. Organising in social care is hard, but absolutely vital!
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:45:51
@Chris when we phone up or direct message with new recruits, we ask them who got them to join and then we record that on our spreadsheet
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:46:21
@Steven thank you, yes, we agree absolutely vital to plug away here, even more so because it is hard
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:46:50
Again. Very good presentations.
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:47:06
Much appreciated
Glen Williams
03:47:39
Anyone got intel on how 250 million Indian workers have managed to take co-ordinated strike action?
Dan Smith
03:47:40
Great to see the West Mids Region prioritising organising in social care. Brilliant work Becca and Ollie
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:47:58
@Dan cheers Dan
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:48:31
Regularly inspired by your good selves of course credit where it's due
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:48:35
NW are the dons
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:48:46
Videos are increasing important. Soon most content will be video content so we need to improve our skills by creating excellent, shareable ones.
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:49:53
Excellent video. Really well thought out. Well scripted. Great music/voiceover. And great message.
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:49:56
This is so strong, the messaging is undeniable followed by a clear call to action
Jennifer McCarey
03:50:04
this is great to see an industrial campaign being delivered digitally at a local level, this is the difference between digital organising and digital comms
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:50:19
^^^^^ 💯
ray
03:50:23
well done
Sam
03:50:30
yeah, really good video that
Paddy Cole
03:50:32
Great video. Anger. Hope. Action. Really well done.
tracey rheged
03:50:36
Excellent and great presentation
Valery Alzaga
03:50:43
Jenn++
Elizabeth Cameron
03:50:55
Excellent video
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:51:30
beautiful number
Valery Alzaga
03:51:31
That’s amazing Sam!
Paula Carlyle
03:51:34
97% amazing!
Paula Carlyle
03:53:32
Great idea to use photos as a structure test.
Steven North
03:54:32
Agree. Great piece of work Sam.
Valery Alzaga
03:54:49
lol
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:55:01
BAFTA level performance
CJ Grimes
03:55:04
SO GOOD!
Conor McGurran
03:55:05
Ben butterworth gets me everytime @Sam
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:55:11
proper panto santa that
Ollie Hopkins
03:55:16
Ha that's great!
Shelly’s iPad Pro
03:55:27
Love it!
Magda /Salford City UNISON
03:55:32
literal LOL
CJ Grimes
03:55:34
that was AWESOME!!
Chris
03:55:41
Excellent
Paula Carlyle
03:55:43
Best Santa!
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:55:44
nimble
tracey rheged
03:55:46
brilliant
Louise Heywood
03:55:47
Still as funny as the first time I saw it
Elizabeth Cameron
03:55:55
So powerful using their names as well
Carl Greatbatch
03:55:56
Incredible.
Kate Ramsden
03:56:00
Excellent
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:56:35
A lot of hard work goes in producing great, creative videos. So well done. It was brill.
Conor McGurran
03:56:41
Santa video here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=696046084638726
jlewis2
03:56:47
We started with 4 members at Salford Health with Engie - got full membership and won AfC Pay for all. Engie management didn't know what UNISON was capable of and will continue to fight Engie throughout the NW and beyond - Fab work Sam
Sam
03:57:10
excellent work there
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
03:57:16
Impactful, this is great
Valery Alzaga
03:57:23
Love that!
Dan Smith
03:57:24
Brilliant worker testimony
mick mckeown
03:57:25
Love the use of humour. Some very good stuff on Gogglebox (CH4) recently about NHS pay. Great if we could recycle such clips
Steven North
03:57:29
It's a great example of what can be done Jacqui
Becca Kirkpatrick
03:57:32
great stuff at Salford Health
Elizabeth Cameron
03:57:57
Great idea testimonies
Elizabeth Cameron
03:58:04
👍🏾👍🏾
Conor McGurran
03:58:27
NHS video: https://www.facebook.com/308731815907354/videos/1472296156493866
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
03:58:54
Excellent presentation.
Jennifer McCarey
03:59:02
isn't that a lesson, higher engagement fabulous work!
Tiwanak
03:59:15
great presentation
Magda /Salford City UNISON
04:00:55
its sugar that has slightly smaller grains, so you can charge twice as much.
Magda /Salford City UNISON
04:01:37
don't take any s**t from British bakers who make you get a scale out instead of using good old American cups
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
04:01:43
I always learn a lot at these events.
Sam Doherty
04:03:50
Thanks for the feedback everyone! My email is s.doherty@unison.co.uk if anyone has any questions
Becca Kirkpatrick
04:14:17
nice and clear
Conor McGurran
04:14:19
Great tool
ray
04:14:27
turn the use of the f word down
tracey rheged
04:14:46
great to see and easy to read
Paula Carlyle
04:14:47
We should do a national one
Gauri
04:16:03
Really interesting, is this a dues paying membership?
Bernard Murphy
04:17:27
Apologies- have to leave now for vaccine appt. Will catch up with the recording, solidarity comrades
jlewis2
04:18:21
Wow - that's amazing
Valery Alzaga
04:19:59
love the calculator app
Paula Carlyle
04:20:02
How did you compile the survey to give the financial results?
Conor McGurran
04:20:13
you've taken lessons from your TU experience to help build workmoney - what have you learned through workmoney that would change union campaigns?
Glen Williams
04:20:26
What is the one mistake you learned most from?
Conor McGurran
04:20:35
It'd also be great if you could tell us a little bit more about how to launch peer to peer text or phone activity
ray
04:21:09
that ok and are you and your organise volatry
Elizabeth Cameron
04:21:34
yes pls send calculator app deets
Chris
04:22:29
Are you aware of the organisation "Organise" in the UK? If so, do you see yourself as similar in method and outcomes?
Kate Ramsden
04:23:16
How are you funded?
Rena Wood
04:25:08
Did BLM have any impact on your organising?
Valery Alzaga
04:25:18
The 15 folks you work with came already with the set of skills or/and do you have a development plan each? Same for your activists?
ray
04:26:13
so if they put more in the biger the say
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
04:27:13
Absolutely brilliant presentation. Thank you.
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
04:27:13
American translation for castor sugar; its powdered sugar
Kate Ramsden
04:27:20
That's my biggest take from today - the importance of facii
steve gray unison aberdeenshire
04:27:22
Glne farclas
Kate Ramsden
04:27:51
oops. Facilitating members talking to members.
Paula Carlyle
04:28:43
Is Menitmeter free to use Lyndsey?
CJ Grimes
04:28:44
Here is the current calculator: https://act-now.workmoney.org/find-your-new-stimulus-benefits/?_ke=eyJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlZjcTdKTSIsICJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJjakB3b3JrbW9uZXkub3JnIn0%3D
ray
04:28:46
hi can not to get on
CJ Grimes
04:29:08
Here is the electoral; calculator: https://act-now.workmoney.org/calculator/
Elizabeth Cameron
04:33:42
I think for me it’s just the issue of digital exclusion,or thinking about access issues but I’m 💯👍🏾👏🏾
jlewis2
04:34:31
This is the way forward but need to ensure we are protected. You can't trump (i'm keeping it clean) without asking permisson from our organisation regarding social media
Charlotte Slater
04:34:32
I agree, I am really conscious of this @Elizabeth
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
04:34:39
That’s totally valid ^ Elizabeth, happy to talk through digital and tech curves (and also digital organizing won’t always be the most appropriate tool depending on the audience, sector, community, etc)
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
04:35:07
great stuff.
tracey rheged
04:35:08
definitely this is the way forward for us
John Flannery
04:35:13
Alongside Organising, managing the online presence is vital. As an example what strategies can we adopt to overcome the negative content (eg ratings on Trust Pilot)
Elizabeth Cameron
04:35:24
Brilliant day. Loved doing it this way.thanks to all 🙌🏾
Bianka Nora (O2O) She/Hers
04:35:37
Thank you all for the invitation into your space, this was so uplifting and inspiring
Ollie Hopkins
04:35:39
Great stuff Lyndsey!
Teresa Connally
04:35:42
Totally brilliant
Becca Kirkpatrick
04:35:47
Thank you very much NW region for having us today, we love your work down in the West Mids
magshindle
04:35:54
Thanks Lyndsey Glen and all the guest speakers great event
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
04:35:55
A very productive event. Lots taken away (including what caster sugar is). Thanks to all the speakers.
Carl Greatbatch
04:35:56
Really impressive event. Thanks as ever to CJ Grimes.
Kate Ramsden
04:36:05
Excellent event thanks so much.
steve gray unison aberdeenshire
04:36:07
ace day many thanks
Michelle England (she/her)
04:36:07
Fantastic event, thanks to all who have worked so hard to pull it together
Tracy Delaney
04:36:08
excellent day as always, thank you to everyone involved x
Louise Heywood
04:36:08
Brilliant day thanks everyone
Christine Collins
04:36:13
well done to all the speakers and organisers amazing event again did not disappoint
Shelly’s iPad Pro
04:36:27
Thank you for today! Great programme put together by you all!
Elizabeth Cameron
04:36:27
North west does it again #proud 👍🏾
CJ Grimes
04:36:41
Excellent work, UNISON NW - your work since the last time I saw you has been BRILLIANT! I’m so impressed!
Valery Alzaga
04:36:42
super event NW! Glad to see you again CJ - super work!
Elizabeth Cameron
04:36:48
Excellent event
tracey rheged
04:36:49
Really enjoyed this, worth missing the football, i feel more able to recruit and support both my members and Unison. Thank you very much.
Jennifer McCarey
04:37:38
thanks so much for the invitation to Scotland, its been inspirational
Paula Carlyle
04:37:41
Glen can you email those slides?
Ethel Buckley
04:37:44
Thanks Unison North West for inviting us to Skills for Strength. It's been great & has given us lots of ideas. Solidarity from your SIPTU comrades in Ireland.
Ollie Hopkins
04:37:50
Thanks for invite today, great to learn from you all.
Jennifer McCarey
04:37:58
well done conor thanks
Phil Lloyd
04:38:03
thank you
Charlotte Slater
04:38:03
thanks everyone!!!
Conor McGurran
04:38:05
We will email the training details out to everyone, thanks all!
Kevan Nelson
04:38:06
Great work Glen, Lyndsey and Conor behind the scenes for delivering a well run event.
Sam Doherty
04:38:06
Thanks everyone!
Joe Baldwin LHHB
04:38:08
Thanks Glen and team
Sabrina Ryan SIPTU
04:38:09
Thank for the session, excellent day. Sabrina SIPTU
mick mckeown
04:38:14
thanks !!!
jlewis2
04:38:14
Bye
Valery Alzaga
04:38:15
great job Glen!
Elizabeth Cameron
04:38:27
Nice to see you all
Ben and Leanne Greenwood
04:38:28
Thanks everyone. Good job Glen.
Tiwanak
04:38:32
Thank you for a great convention
Amanda Childs
04:38:44
Great as always off for my glass of wine ..
Evelyn Doyle
04:38:51
Thanks great event