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Report on APD Training Academy and Q & A - Shared screen with speaker view
angelica erazo
48:25
Community members, who's here? Please intro in the chat if you feel comfortable.Angelica Erazo, Hispanic QOL Commission and Video Review Panel for Res66.
Diana Spain
49:17
Hi, everyone. I'm Diana Spain, Commissioner, CoA Commission on Seniors.
OPO Support Staff | Karla
50:32
English Welcome: Hello, thank you for joining us this evening. Some of the topics discussed today may be triggering for some participants. We are committed to providing a comfortable and safe environment for all attendees, please remember to engage with respect, kindness, and awareness.We have translations services for those of you who would like to participate in this conversation in Spanish. Today, we have Jaqueline present to assist in Spanish interpretation. If you’d like to use this service, please select the globe language icon and select Spanish. We also kindly ask that you put the letters ES in front of your name so that our interpreters know who you are.  We also have American Sign Language translation available for this session. If you’ll be watching the ASL translation we ask that you put the letters ASL in front of your name, so that we can ensure you have a seamless experience during the Q&A.
Jessica Johnson
51:03
Hey everyone. I’m Jessica Johnson. I’m with Texas Fair Defense Project and a member of the Reimagine Task Force.
OPO Support Staff | Karla
51:27
Contamos con servicios de traducción para aquellos de ustedes que deseen participar en esta conversación en español. Hoy, tenemos a Jaqueline y Vic presente para ayudar en la interpretación en español. Si desea utilizar este servicio, seleccione el ícono del globo y seleccione “Spanish”.
OPO Support Staff | Karla
51:43
También contamos con traducción en lenguaje de señas americano disponible para esta sesión. Si va a ver la traducción de ASL, le pedimos que ponga las letras ASL delante de su nombre, para que podamos asegurarnos de que tenga una experiencia perfecta durante las preguntas y respuestas.
OPO Support Staff | Karla
57:22
Thank you so much for your questions. We are tracking them and will forward them to Kroll at the beginning of the Q&A Session for their full response.
Cynthia Sanchez
58:47
Will this presentation be shared after the meeting?
OPO Support Staff | Karla
59:12
Yes, it is being recorded and will be available to the public in the near future.
Cynthia Sanchez
59:26
Great. Thanks.
OPO Support Staff | Karla
59:27
You can send your questions here in the chat.
Melissa Shearer
01:01:11
Hi everyone, I’m Melissa McRoy Shearer, Director of the Travis County Mental Health Public Defender.
rachael shannon - she/her
01:01:55
Good evening, everyone. Rachael Shannon here from Undoing White Supremacy Austin
OPO Support Staff | Karla
01:03:07
Thank you for your question, Fannie. It has been noted and will be presented to Kroll in the Q&A Session.
OPO Support Staff, Lindsay
01:04:44
Thank you, Rachel. Your question has been noted and will be presented during the Q & A session.
OPO Support Staff, Lindsay
01:06:15
Thank you for your question, Angelica. We will present it to the panel during the Q & A session
Diana Spain
01:07:11
Will this powerpoint presentation be emailed to attendees? Thank you.
Melissa Shearer
01:07:31
To what extent, if any, will the academy incorporate the principles of the Center for Policing Equity in its training?
Jessica Johnson
01:09:03
Why has the length of the academy been shortened?
Farah Muscadin
01:09:51
If this helps, here is the Kroll presentation from 3/2 https://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=355551This presentation is slightly updated.
Melissa Shearer
01:12:09
Will the instructors that have perpetuated the militaristic US V. THEM mentality be removed and replaced with instructors that have demonstrated ability to train in the reimagined ways?
Jen Margulies (she/her/hers)
01:12:16
Hi, Jen Margulies from Undoing White Supremacy Austin, member of the Reimagining 911 & Crisis Response work group and the Reimagining Violence Survivor Services and Prevention work group. My question is: which recommendations related to the academy and to the department as a whole would you all say would need to be solidly in place before Kroll would feel confident about the training academy resuming?
Diana Spain
01:12:50
Are there any vestiges, even subtle, of the Grossman "killology" school of police training in the academy curriculum? If so, is there an active plan to remove them?
Melissa Shearer
01:14:36
What consideration has been given to the vetting and retraining of all current officers before having a new cadet class, so that they don’t undo any positive training new cadets receive?
Jessica Johnson
01:17:53
The report indicates that Kroll found “APD reluctant to incorporate a lot of community/civilian input and distrustful of non-police personnel.” Given this culture, how can community input be meaningfully incorporated if there’s a culture of mistrust of civilians?
Diana Spain
01:19:00
Other countries have police "universities" that take 1- years to complete. Any thoughts to aspiring to a model like that?
rachael shannon - she/her
01:20:09
Related question: Will existing trainers and educators in the Academy go through a long-term retraining on the new curriculum before engaging in leading trainings again? How will their success in incorporating the training be measured?
Jessica Johnson
01:20:56
How was the time period of two weeks chosen for the program for cadets to immerse themselves into the community. How would this work logistically? how would they be immersed into community programs and organizations?
Jen Margulies (she/her/hers)
01:21:02
What is the relationship between transforming training and making significant changes to general orders and other systems of accountability for racial profiling, violence, and other misconduct?
Cynthia Sanchez
01:21:45
Does the academy solely train officers for APD or do smaller agencies throughout the region send cadets here, too?
Pooja Sethi
01:21:47
Pooja Sethi, Asian American Quality of Life Commission
OPO Support Staff | Sara
01:24:32
Friendly reminder to drop your questions in the chat. Thank you!
Diana Spain
01:24:49
Does the academy address the issue of officers not feeling comfortable reaching out for psychological help out of fear of stigma/damage to career?
Melissa Shearer
01:25:37
Will all of the phases of your evaluation and recommendations be complete before the council makes a decision on timing for the next academy class/
Melissa Shearer
01:25:38
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rachael shannon - she/her
01:38:48
Will the community questions here be catalogued/archived for reference by the City?
Farah Muscadin
01:39:34
Yes, Rachel re archiving the questions.
rachael shannon - she/her
01:39:48
Thank you.
Sonja Burns
01:42:02
Will the answers to all of the questions in the chat be made public?
Melissa Shearer
01:42:51
As someone who represents residents with serious mental illness arrested and charged with crimes in Austin, I read a lot of offense reports, watch a lot of videos of arrests, and meet with people who have been directly traumatized by APD’s tactics, and end up with criminal charges against them for evading, resisting, etc. I am terrified that starting another class without removing the dangerous officers already on the job will contribute to more violence and trauma in our community.
Sonja Burns
01:46:58
As an advocate who has been working on issues re: people living with serious mental illness, I echo Melissa Shearer’s concerns. And I would like to be sure there is very intentional training re: encounters with people with serious mental illness - this would need to go beyond consulting with Integral Care and NAMI.
Sonja Burns
01:49:07
How much time do cadets in training watch body cam footage of interactions gone wrong?
Farah Muscadin
01:53:51
ODTM is the Training Division Manager, Dr. Anne Kringen, she started at APD last week.
Bethany Carson
01:58:29
Hi everyone, Bethany Carson here from Grassroots Leadership. We are a membership based organization with members who have been directly impacted by incarceration, policing and immigration enforcement. If the goal is to completely transform the impact that police are having on the community, how can we move forward if the recommendations do not yet include the perspectives of community members who have been most directly impacted by policing in this process? For example, the statement made earlier that immigration is a separate issue from policing completely invisibilizes the impact that the threat of deportation from any arrest has on immigrant communities. I share Melissa’s sentiments made above and have also spoken with many people who have experienced trauma and life altering harm from interactions with police, and not exclusively around mental health issues. System transformation significant enough to address these issues cannot even begin to happen within a period of two months.
Farah Muscadin
01:59:40
He was introduced by Mark in the beginning. He is the local Kroll community engagement rep.
Bethany Carson
02:18:32
How can a cadet class begin before the phase about accountability measures? As one community member pointed out in a Reimagine Public Safety Task Force meeting, an officer who got angry and confronted the Chief during a city council meeting would not be keeping his job, but officers who kill and maim community members have consistently kept their jobs. If cadets come into a department with this culture without changes in accountability policies, and learn from officers currently in the field, how will they get the message that these kind of interactions with the community will not be tolerated?
Sonja Burns
02:21:49
I am concerned to hear that community involvement is equated with the inclusion of higher ed academicians - with no mention of people with lived experience.
angelica erazo
02:32:42
Hi all, please share with community and sign up to speak to council re: reopening the next cadet class https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fox_BoFNFpY
Jen Margulies (she/her/hers)
02:33:56
From Undoing White Supremacy Austin, we see that the urgent priority is to stop the racist harm that APD has been perpetuating. Given that we're reallocating funds and roles, how can a shortage of police right now be more urgent than getting the transformative change pieces in place in APD first?
rachael shannon - she/her
02:37:20
Transformation takes time. I hope that a sense of urgency does not become more important than meaningful change.
angelica erazo
02:37:58
Public sign up: https://www.austintexas.gov/department/public-participation-council-meetings