BDC Presents: California's Brand New Building Decarbonization Efficiency Rebate Programs with SCE
- Shared screen with speaker view

41:54
Good morning everyone--welcome

42:17
have him get off his speaker

43:49
the ppt isn't advancing.

46:52
someone needs to mute their mic

48:16
Looks great, Jose! I especially loved the sound effects. :)

48:53
Isn't the video great? Love it!

52:20
is the video up online?

52:34
Yes

53:15
please telle me you are not paying incentives by the ton?

53:42
when is cometo HVAC mini-splits

54:00
That's the perfect kind of video to show your friends and family: #whatIdoforaliving

56:59
If you incent by the ton you must show your load analysis. Should always be done anyway.

57:29
Do you pay for incentives regardless of whether the heat pump is replacing a NG system or an existing electric system?

59:40
please include incentives for shell improvements to homes that will allow smaller systems to be installed.

01:00:31
are the suppliers now stcoocking heat pump water heaters? They have not locally and we have had to get them from Bakersfield.

01:02:43
How do customers know that they are actually getting passed the full value of the rebates? OR is it up to the contractor to determine whether they want to keep all or a portion of the rebate?

01:02:58
Please provide marketing pieces that are 8 1/2 x 11" that can be scanned and emailed to propects.

01:03:20
$1000 will not be a big enough incentive to get someone to change from a gas water heater to a heat pump model. the average cost to install and move to the outside is between 4 to 6 k

01:04:16
I am here 0 can you unmute me?

01:04:25
*6 should unmute

01:04:41
:)

01:08:08
Can any contractor and any customer participate in the SCE rebate program, or ONLY contractor with business addresses in SCE territory? And if the latter, can that contractor do work for a customer in another territory and pass the rebate onto that customer? --i.e. what if it is a bigger contractor with a practice and offices in other territories, including SCE?

01:08:40
are there programs for commercial buildings or is most of the focus on retrofitting MF residential?

01:10:23
Can REEL financing be used for EE measures too? So it can be a comprehensive financing option?

01:10:25
Alice the program is upstream so the rebate goes to the participating distributor who discounts the equipment. these programs are based on submitting the installation address that is serviced by SCE

01:13:09
Regarding financing: The REEL Program is for single family residential. We also have a small business and Affordable multi-family program.REEL can absolutely be used for comprehensive EE retrofits! There is a broad list of qualified measures Single measures or comprehensive projects qualifyhttps://gogreenfinancing.com/residentialcontractors/eeems

01:14:16
Thanks Miriam!

01:14:36
Thanks Steve. Then is it a bit misleading to advertise that "contractors can pass (or share) rebates onto customers" ? maybe it would be better to explicitly "share" the rebates down the line -- ?

01:15:44
please don't let this be a box swapping program. demand Manual J calculation and reward new duct installs.

01:16:52
low income peole will never switch to a heat pump water heater with a $1000 incentive. It makes no sense

01:17:33
What is the plan/current thinking for financing and maintaining the existing NG infrastructure as customers transition off in large numbers?

01:18:18
as far as customer point of contact on SFHs...who does the end user contact to get stuff rolling. for example, a language limited low income elder who's been in their home for years and who needs to update their water heater

01:18:38
Can the SCE guys explain whether the budgets and targets are per year, or for the life of the program?

01:20:12
The proposed ESA Programs budgets are totals for 2021-2026.

01:20:35
Will, the program you described is exciting! can you share more info afterwards? would the program be applicable to state projects now-- such as for the AHSC program?

01:20:46
The application package for CTCAC can cost $250-$500k for owner. That is when they hurt the most for funding. May be consider if some part of the incentives can be offered up front for committing to all-electric.

01:23:47
Does the Smart Heat Pump Water Heater program include thermostatic mixing valves?

01:24:53
Alice, let's connect about applicability. These ESA programs are currently proposed, and there will be some workshopping associated with them at the state level before implementation in 2021.

01:25:15
Good point Abhilasha.

01:26:20
@ Katherine Muncaster: incentives are paid for the heat pumps sold. The heat pump program uses existing baseline ratios for electric and natural gas systems from CA Residential Appliance Saturation Studies.

01:27:18
How is SCE engaging with consumers to plan to implement fuel switching from gas to heat pumps? Are they waiting for end of system life? Early replacement? Zero over time approach?

01:27:46
Do any of these electrification incentives require air sealing and/or insulation when electrifying?

01:28:34
How is the issue of refrigerant leaks and proper decommissioning for proliferating small Heat Pump equipment being addressed?

01:30:32
That's a good question but needs to be addressed at a policy level from the CPUC level

01:33:43
Do you guys have a slide deck you send to everyone?

01:34:27
Which distributors are already set up for the HVAC upstream incentives?

01:34:59
I asked this question first a long time ago. Please addess it. Is this incentive being paid per ton for HVAC heat pumps?

01:35:27
Refrigerant standards are being discussed in the SGIP workshop on Mar 19, and also in the SB 1477 Decision this month. Its up in the air right now.

01:35:46
Are the Heat Pump Buying guides available now and if so how do we get access to them?

01:35:51
Will you be accessing the upstream incentives for the SJV pilots?

01:36:04
For the upstream incentives, will you incent any and all manufacturer's products that meet the efficiency requirements, or can you blacklist manufacturers or products that have issues or complaints; or do you take a whitelist approach

01:36:26
that is horrible

01:36:57
Daniel, that's how EE HVAC incentives are currently awarded

01:36:58
please don't do that. You are rewarding oversizing of equipment. .

01:37:09
so, if I am not a BDC member, I can't access presentation material, right?

01:37:19
If incetnives are PER the TON-- what is preventing oversizing???hat is preventing the

01:37:27
For the upstream incentives, will you incent any and all manufacturer's products that meet the efficiency requirements, or can you blacklist manufacturers or products that have issues or complaints; or do you take a whitelist approach

01:37:32
and that is wrong, this is the time to fix a horribel peoplem

01:37:43
smaller equipment is better

01:37:49
and should be rewarded

01:37:49
Great presentation, SCE team!

01:37:55
Thanks so much