Chuck Benton- Dover

Jennifer McPoyle - Lincoln IU TaC

Jay Barris - PA Cyber High School Principal 11-12

Frank Flamini - Cumberland Perry Area CTC

School Counselor

Patti Buffington - Carlisle High School - Principal

Kelly Galbraith, IU13 Teaching and Learning Collaborative

School counselor

Michelle Nitchman - Boiling Springs High School Counselor

Steph McHugh -Vice Provost, Commonwealth Charter Academy

School Counselor

Nikki Pauline: Riverside HS Principal

Heather Melito - Berwick High School, School Counselor

Director of Curriculum

Lori Kelley, School Counselor

Dr. Shaikha BuAli, Chief Academic Officer, PA Virtual Charter School

Eastern Center for Arts and Technology, Willow Grove, PA Data Specialist

Sean Wechtenhiser - Shade-Central City School District

Alex Novickoff - Assistant Director, Central Westmoreland CTC

Ann Jordan, School Counselor, CTC Lackawanna County

Jocelyn Curtis - Principal, Newport High School

Marsha Kloss, Pocono Mountain SD, Supervisor of Special Education

Julie Saunders - Pottsville Area School District, Graduation Coach

Kelly Dickey - NEIU 19 Director of Special Education

Pam Hart, Director of Curriculum and Equity, North Penn School District

Sean Wechtenhiser - High School Principal

School counselor

Stacie Isenberg, ARIN IU 28

Ann Conflitti, Hazleton Area, Coordinator of Data, Assessment, & Scheduling

Katie Sleasman - School Counselor at Greene County CTC

Kerry Overfield, Guidance

Valley View S.D. Director of LIteracy

Principal

Jen Farley, Northern Tier Career Center, Administrator of Educational Services (Asst. Director & School Counselor)

School counselor

Sue Kuhl- Luzerne Intermediate Unit 18, Career Ready Liaison Region 7

James Bowser Forest Hills High School, Counselor

Sandra Brower, School Counselor Central Montco Technical High School

Shannon Kuchak, Director of Curriculum Lackawanna Trail S.D.

Leigh Walton , Beth polk school counselors Gettysburg Area High School

Audra Mazzante, ISPA, Interim CTE Director

Lauren Reilly, Lenape Technical School, School Counselor

Jon Zimmerman School Counselor - South Western HS

https://pdesas.org/Page/Viewer/ViewPage/56

Doreen Milot, Schuylkill IU 29 Transition TaC

Anna Palmer School Counselor Gettysburg Area High School

Stephanie 'Barto

Tom McCloskey, Assistant Superintendent, Clairton City SD

School Counselor, Iroquois Jr. ~ Sr. High School

Joe Baylog LCTI

https://pdesas.org/Page/Viewer/ViewPage/56

Corrin Linkes, School Counselor, Leechburg HS

Matt Gross, school counselor, Annville-Cleona

Tracey Picht- Schuylkill Technology Center

Are the slides matching with what she was reading?

So does that mean pre-NOCTI cant be use

I have a question

Does half day programs qualify>

regarding pre-NOCTI. Should we use the previous year's cut scores? Does a student have to score Adv or Comp on pre-NOCTI?

This slide deck (and the notes) will be posted to the SAS site

Does the OSHA certification count?

how many credentials under each pathway needs to be met to determine proficiency

If the CTE class is completed successfully, do students have to pass the certification test for credit?

Does OSHA count?

So, if a student attended CTC and then transferred schools and is no longer in CTC anymore, can the certs/creds they previously earned count? (Maybe in E-B Pathway?)

can a school district that is not a ctc provide OSHA or first aid certification count towards an industry based credential?

So overall is determining this subjective by the CTC?

You mentioned 50% of work in program needs to be completed. You showed the pastry checf as an example. Does the student need to complete 50% of those tasks?

So more or less...If a student has completed at least 50% of their CTC program and have one certification from that program they have satisfied the CTE Pathway. Correct?

Act 6 defines a CTE concentrator as a student who, by the end of a reporting year, will be reported as successfully completing at least 50 percent of the minimum technical instructional hours required under 22 Pa. Code Ch. 339 (relating to vocational education). The student must be enrolled in a PDE-approved CTE program to be considered a CTE concentrator.

How many industry credentials need to be met under the ctc patahways to show competency towards industry based evidence

https://www.education.pa.gov/K-12/Assessment%20and%20Accountability/GraduationRequirements/Pages/GradReqCTE.aspx

Does (Readiness for continued engagement in CTE Concentrator program of study) mean that if the student passed their program they would meet the CTE Concentrator criteria.

If we give pre-NOCTI in the fall, should we use previous year's cut scores to determine Adv or Comp?

There seems to be some miscommunication about whether or not OSHA counts. Some have been told that it does not count. Can communication be sent out that clarifies that OSHA DOES count based on this presentation?

Cut scores do not come out until April

The decision needs to be made at the end of junior year but our student (2 year program) are not quite half way through the hours how would that be approved?

CTE pathway completion just requires completing a CTC 1/2 or full day program but not pass the cert?

and Pre NOCTI is only one part of the test

can osha be used from districts who are not ctc

For a 4-year program that provides a minimum of 1,320 hours of vocational program instruction, a CTE student achieves concentrator status after completing 660 hours of vocational program instruction. Most students enrolled in a 4-year program should reach concentrator status at the end of the sophomore year.

Her audio is garbled...Anyone else or just me?

For a 3-year program that provides a minimum of 1,080 hours of vocational program instruction, a CTE student achieves concentrator status after completing 540 hours of vocational program instruction. Most students enrolled in a 3-year program should reach concentrator status at the middle of their junior year.

For 1- and 2-year programs that provide a minimum total of 720 hours of vocational program instruction, a CTE student achieves concentrator status after completing 360 hours of vocational program instruction. Most students enrolled in a 1-year program should reach concentrator status during the middle of their senior year. Most students in a 2-year program should reach concentrator status at the end of their junior year.

Yes, hard to hear you, Laura

Very echo-ey

the speaker sounds miffled and echoed

I can't hear her

better

Seems better

better

Yes, please

yes

It is feedback from Jean's open mic I believe.

you have an echo in your office. the volume needs turned off wherever you are presenting from.

Or is someone else in the room with their microphone on?

Is this an inclusive list or just examples for the pre apprenticeship

just examples

Did she say the industry based credential must be listed on the students transcript.

There is OSHA Career Safe (036) is listed under All Programs but they no longer have OSHA from OSHA IUP (117) is no longer listed for all programs. Is this and oversite or a change in credentials

Was it just said that the name of credential should appear on student transcript?

https://pdesas.org/Page/Viewer/ViewPage/56

As we are gathering the certifications (and putting them on our transcripts), do we also need to maintain the rubric on each cert as an artifact, along with the certification? Or do we just need the cert/record on transcript?

Yes - Act 55 (Reminder)Included in Act 55 of 2022 is the following language related to Industry-Recognized Credentials: (c.9a) No later than the beginning of the 2022-2023 school year, an industry-recognized credential attained by a student shall be included on the student's transcript.

thanks, Kelly!

thank you!

She's still pretty garbled.

Really difficult to hear the presenter.

chart available at https://pdesas.org/Page/Viewer/ViewPage/56

can a student earn a credit in a CHS course that is not directly related to a keystone course be used as evidence in pathway 5?

Can a service-learning project be tied to a course and used as evidence?

Why can't there be more flexibility in which section the evidence comes from? For example, 3 artifacts from section 2? Principal of Academic Affairs, Northern Tioga SD

can you please repeat that and the PDE code

yes - that concurrent enrollment course need not be related to keystone content under the EB Pathway

I apologize for the poor audio, cannot determine the cause here today.

krsi - the legislation restricts the number of artifacts that may come from each list

Can you please link the Act 55 cheat sheet in the chat?

Kris (sorry!)

College in the High School

can we get a direct link to the Act 55 "cheat sheet"?

Can you discuss the non-CTE Industry recognized credentials and how to find them?

PA Act 158 2018.

Did I hear correctly, that any certification received must be reflected on their transcript?

what courses count towards industry credential in pathway 5?

I've used this as a cheat sheet for act 55: https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/revisions-to-the-pennsylvania-school-3645817/

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2022&sessInd=0&act=55

Amy I can not open that linked PDF

sorry about that Halee - see if you can open the one on PDESAS (Jean is showing you now)

I Evidence Based Pathway can a student be accepted in to a an accredited institution other than a 4 yr AND secure a letter of full time employment as 2 artifacts?

Is there any movement on a statewide PDE/Dept. of L&I employability certificate that could potentially be used as a non-CTE credential?

AMY, okay yes I have that, is there an Act 55 "cheat sheet" direct link that Brian has mentioned? I can't find it on PDE

If you need a program to help with Grad Pathway completion and other work-based learning... see: https://myplanpa.com/

accredited nonprofit other-than-4-yr plus evidence of ability to enroll in college coursework (see toolkit for examples) is one artifact from section ne under EB Pathway. letter guaranteeing full-time employment is a second artifact (from section two of the EB Pathway)

halee - not sure which link that is, i'll check with brian

Does this cover Act 55? https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/revisions-to-the-pennsylvania-school-3645817/

As an appropriate "cheat sheet" I mean

Not sure the author of that doc

use external guidance at your own risk :/

What exactly is meant by “readiness for continued engagement in CTE concentrator program of study”? Who determines this? What is the criteria?

Roger that! Do you have one we can use?

@ Jared, is this myplanpa a free program? Where do districts get their code?

Monica - not that I know of, and I'm not seeing anything on our site. Check with your district counsel - they may have compiled one for your LEA

I'll also check with our counsel to see if they will be posting anything

Struggling to switch back and forth to find link--hold tight

Good question, this is a paid for program. Contact me at jared@myplanpa.com for a demo. Thanks!

In Evidence Based Pathway can a student be accepted in to a an accredited institution other than a 4 yr AND secure a letter of full time employment as 2 artifacts?

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/schoolsafety/Documents/HB%201642%20-%20Act%2055%20School%20Safety%20Summary%20Information.pdf

From PCCD. How's this re: Act 55?

Why is a acceptance into 2 year institution not acceptable?

d. bell - please see my response above. yes, but make sure that IHE acceptance meets the conditions outlined in the toolkit

Students who work during the school day in a "work release" situation, would this count as work-based learning if not an internship or pre-apprenticeship. Not co-op as there is not an academic component.

tracey -- it can be under the EB pathway - as long as it meets the legislative defintion

Why is a 4 year acceptance given more weight than a local community college...

a community college is cheaper and local

EB Pathway: Any of the following:a community college operating under Article XIX-A.an accredited four-year non-profit institution of higher education.any accredited non-profit public, private, or independent college or university.the Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology.

Where do I find the ACT 55 cheat sheet?

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/schoolsafety/Documents/HB%201642%20-%20Act%2055%20School%20Safety%20Summary%20Information.pdf

The legislation defines the accredited nonprofit IHEs and which may be used where

@Alicia. This one's from PCCD.

Does the 4 year college need to be in the US?

Rebecca - no. You might want to check out last week's webinar once it's posted

Just covers school safety amendments, but it's a start.

So they just have to take the NOCTI, not pass it with an established score?

Can you repeat that? How can students that return from a CTE use their experience as evidence?

Example: Stepladder certification used for non-CTE student aligned with the guidance because student had a career interest (family business), aligned to a career cluster, workforce need (high priority occupation, architecture/construction career cluster). Individual case

Thank you

OSHA does count as an industry credential, but it is not listed for all CIP codes on the link that was provided earlier. If the LEA deems that it is related to their career pathway, then it does count?

If an LEA is offering a non-CTE credential - that must be reflected on the transcript of any student who earns it, correct?

To be a completer. CTE concentrator students just have to finish the courses and take the NOCTI, not pass it with an established score? Is that correct?

Any industry credential (CTE or non-CTE) is to be named on the transcript.

SAS institute??

Brian, when will we see the FRPAI updated with 2021-22 data?

yes - beginning this year, any IRC earned by that student (whether through an approved CTE program or not) must be listed on the student transcript

https://www.iu5.org/sas

SAS Institute info

Does SAS have a virtual option this year? I am interested in these Act 158 pieces but am unable to make the trip to SAS?

Jenni Donohoo is fantastic!

keep in mind that it's Act6, Act 158, Act 136, Act 1, and Act 55 and state board action and policy! there's a lot that informs the statewide grad requirements ;)

When you post the recording and powerpoint, could you also post the chat? Lots of good answers to questions (plus links) are in the chat for us! (Thank you!)

Nevermind- you said you'd do a FAQ!!!!! Thank you!

We pull the questions from the chat and them to update the FAQs, which will be refreshed shortly

Click the three dots next to the smiley in the chat, and you can save it.

yep, thanks monica!

The recording for Other Diploma Opportunities is not working. Can you check and fix?

Is there a specific cost for attending certain breakout sessions at the SAS institute? Or is it $150 regardless?

will do, Doreen - thanks!