Not Your Parent's Sunday School - March 11, 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
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nationsl TV show Queer as Folk was very popular
How do you use it as we speak, for example Where is they? Meaning you....Grace it always confuses me ….can you explain that to me ….
Thank you for asking Ellen! You can use it as a singular pronoun, where are they, how are they, are they going to Shabbat service? :)
I have heard queer used or appropriated also for anyone who identifies with those who buck traditional society.
Yes Marc, its typically a term that is only to be used by the person who claims it, like Rabbi Morrison, even if it's an umbrella term. Sometimes mainstream media will take the term queer to describe things that are not LGBTQ+, and it can come off as more tone deaf than inclusive or helpful.
1. how about "behavior? ,2. treatment of sexulaity is society based not denominational. so you can have a welcoming Reform or Chabad shul or ythe opposite someplaces.
its always an opportunity for teachable moments
it's a problem in English grammar because we don't have a neutral pronoun as some other languages do
Modern Hebrew is working on making a gender netural Hebrew to address inclusivity for that community
Question re opening the door to other formerly pejorative terms…
"How is one doing ? "is that too hi falutin?
"How are they doing!"
it’s worse in German—every word is gendered in German (kind of like French, for example); I think they/them in English is a lot more elegant than solutions I’ve encountered in German
he.her = herm?
I need to go but some years ago I was at a lecture, either Chabad or some traditional denomination. The rabbi there was saying that "we don't condemn homosexuality, we condemn acting on it"
We don't mix pronouns, she/him - shim, etc. is inappropriate, etc. If you're unsure, ask or try the neutral they/them!!
Does the Torah says “you may not” or “you must not”?
no, Everton, it doesnt
Alice and Fran
Great book on this subject written by Out Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg - Wrestling with God & Men
I am sorry I joined late! Once again, a very important topic. And more than the topic: we are practicing our wrestling skills. Thank you.
We need more conversations like this
It's great having Grace explain!
Hugs to Grace
Thank you so much!!!
They have amazing resources!!!!
PFLAG Parents and Family of Lesbians and Gays
(now inclusive of Trans)
Same with N word, re who should use it and not
Everton wants to say something
Fran I'd love to know too!! I want to have a jewish lesbian wedding and we want to use gender neutral terms too :)
Love and respect is shown through respecting things like pronouns!
If someone asks and is open to discuss with me or understand, I can tell that they're respecting me
Lighter note: I absolutely hate when “that” is used instead of “who.”
yes Norma.. Chalk on (black)board
if anyone has any questions or wants to talk about this topic or anything LGBTQ+, I'd love to help. You can email me at email@example.com :)
It's a learning process and want to continue to learn
What year, Rabbi?
sincerely..you can call me He, she, it. As long as we respect each other, I am ok. Pronouns are secondary, imho.
I acknowledge the complexity is a reality.