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Not Your Parent's Sunday School - March 11, 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
DianeK
10:25
nationsl TV show Queer as Folk was very popular
ELLEN LEEDS
15:48
How do you use it as we speak, for example Where is they? Meaning you....Grace it always confuses me ….can you explain that to me ….
Grace (they/them)
17:24
Thank you for asking Ellen! You can use it as a singular pronoun, where are they, how are they, are they going to Shabbat service? :)
Marc Lamb
22:15
I have heard queer used or appropriated also for anyone who identifies with those who buck traditional society.
Grace (they/them)
24:35
Yes Marc, its typically a term that is only to be used by the person who claims it, like Rabbi Morrison, even if it's an umbrella term. Sometimes mainstream media will take the term queer to describe things that are not LGBTQ+, and it can come off as more tone deaf than inclusive or helpful.
Marc Lamb
27:37
1. how about "behavior? ,2. treatment of sexulaity is society based not denominational. so you can have a welcoming Reform or Chabad shul or ythe opposite someplaces.
rabbi morrison
30:18
its always an opportunity for teachable moments
DianeK
30:57
it's a problem in English grammar because we don't have a neutral pronoun as some other languages do
rabbi morrison
31:09
Modern Hebrew is working on making a gender netural Hebrew to address inclusivity for that community
Norma
31:42
Question re opening the door to other formerly pejorative terms…
Marc Lamb
32:03
"How is one doing ? "is that too hi falutin?
Grace (they/them)
32:24
"How are they doing!"
Michael Sagmeister
32:34
it’s worse in German—every word is gendered in German (kind of like French, for example); I think they/them in English is a lot more elegant than solutions I’ve encountered in German
DianeK
32:45
s/he
Norma
32:53
Spanish too
Paula Xanthopoulou
33:09
And Greek
DianeK
33:40
he.her = herm?
DianeK
34:46
I need to go but some years ago I was at a lecture, either Chabad or some traditional denomination. The rabbi there was saying that "we don't condemn homosexuality, we condemn acting on it"
Grace (they/them)
36:13
We don't mix pronouns, she/him - shim, etc. is inappropriate, etc. If you're unsure, ask or try the neutral they/them!!
Everton Dias
37:28
Does the Torah says “you may not” or “you must not”?
rabbi morrison
39:45
no, Everton, it doesnt
Alice and Fran
41:24
Great book on this subject written by Out Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg - Wrestling with God & Men
Everton Dias
48:38
I am sorry I joined late! Once again, a very important topic. And more than the topic: we are practicing our wrestling skills. Thank you.
ELLEN LEEDS
50:06
We need more conversations like this
Paula Xanthopoulou
50:53
It's great having Grace explain!
ELLEN LEEDS
56:05
Hugs to Grace
Grace (they/them)
56:18
Thank you so much!!!
rabbi morrison
56:27
Keshet.org
Grace (they/them)
56:56
They have amazing resources!!!!
rabbi morrison
01:00:13
PFLAG Parents and Family of Lesbians and Gays
rabbi morrison
01:00:20
(now inclusive of Trans)
Paula Xanthopoulou
01:04:05
Same with N word, re who should use it and not
Everton Dias
01:05:58
Everton wants to say something
Norma
01:06:02
“Gender-neutral”
Grace (they/them)
01:07:23
Fran I'd love to know too!! I want to have a jewish lesbian wedding and we want to use gender neutral terms too :)
Grace (they/them)
01:10:21
Love and respect is shown through respecting things like pronouns!
Grace (they/them)
01:10:47
If someone asks and is open to discuss with me or understand, I can tell that they're respecting me
Norma
01:13:46
Lighter note: I absolutely hate when “that” is used instead of “who.”
Grace (they/them)
01:13:55
Yes Normaaaa
Marc Lamb
01:14:33
yes Norma.. Chalk on (black)board
Grace (they/them)
01:14:43
if anyone has any questions or wants to talk about this topic or anything LGBTQ+, I'd love to help. You can email me at gracewrightpazdra@gmail.com :)
ELLEN LEEDS
01:15:02
It's a learning process and want to continue to learn
Paula Xanthopoulou
01:15:29
What year, Rabbi?
Everton Dias
01:16:35
sincerely..you can call me He, she, it. As long as we respect each other, I am ok. Pronouns are secondary, imho.
Everton Dias
01:16:57
I acknowledge the complexity is a reality.
Norma
01:16:58
Great class!