Zoom Logo

Psalm Study w/ Rabbi Kleinbaum - Shared screen with speaker view
Tasha
45:33
why do the heathens rage
Ben Kushner
45:54
What’s with all this shpeilchas?
Jeremy Lawrence
46:24
because rulers thrive on our panic
Kat's iPhone
47:43
Reminds me of the tone of Ecclesiastes !
douglas
48:25
i think it is because we have to live day o day.
Gail Winter
48:31
sounds psychological Id impulses
Naomi Hirsch
48:41
As we post translations, maybe we could also post their source. That way, if there is no source, we will know they are your interpretations!
Nina Luban
48:47
We want to avoid facing the fact that life is...hard.
Ellen Poster
49:25
counsel of the wicked- people plot vain things ; joined the company of the insolent - nations assemble; seem to be parallel or are they?
David Grotell
49:42
Thanks Harold.
Jinny Henenberg
50:14
in the now there are rewards along the way - what is a holy way to think of this?
benjaminshafran
50:40
..Letzim… (Psalms 1-1) as kibitzers engage in idle conversation “yehegu reik” Psalms 2-1
Ellen Poster
52:11
Karl Shapiro in the 151st Psalm uses the language of beasts and a dog to describe HaShem following us
Hilary Nudell
52:14
I wrote a 3:00 AM rendition, hoping to share.
noreendeandresser
52:20
Does Psychology actually cover the area of evil? When humans collect to express greed or power that decimates others?
Regina Linder
53:32
21 Cent will be expressed in information tech
Laurie Krotman
54:36
Almaas Facets of Unity: "Relative truth...tells us the facts of what is happening now...Essential (holy) truth..is the presence of essence itself...not a thought, an idea, a reaction or an action...an ontological presence"
Kat's iPhone
55:11
To some degree, Noreen — check out studies on sociopaths and certainly psychopaths. For example, many psychologists assert that “the President” is a real sociopath.
noreendeandresser
56:36
I get that but his behavior draws in vast numbers of people who are not psychopaths. It is that I think religious language works
Jeffrey Weiss
56:44
Thank you Rabbi.
Max Leader
58:59
Thank you Marsha!
Kat's iPhone
59:37
Yes, I concur, Noreen. I concur. That is the fascinatingly seductive energy that evil can have - it can even draw “good” people in....especially if they have not studied history, at least not in detail.
Jeffrey Weiss
59:45
I am Rabbi.
Kat's iPhone
01:00:07
Yes, that is a strength of religious language - it really goes there, in terms of the human condition.
Kat's iPhone
01:01:29
Idolatry = putting anything in G-d’s place — which is actually really easy to do. I mean, I don’t walk around calling myself an idol worshipper, yet I’ve been guilty of this, at times, in my life.
Jeremy Lawrence
01:02:37
The Kings deny what is happening“Let us remove their bands and cast away their cords” they pronounce.As they must. For soon they will be Kings of nothing.And in Heaven the holy one laughs at their plan to escape100,00 dead 200,00? How many?Beyond counting. Beyond imagining.“In his rage he will terrify them.”
Harold Levine
01:03:02
Thank you Jeremy.
Nora’s iPhone
01:03:25
The grammar stuff is my favorite!
Karen Krop
01:03:46
me too Nora!
Ellen Poster
01:03:47
like the chaff the wind blows away
Naomi Hirsch
01:03:49
Another example: Beit-Lechem (Bethlehem) becomes Beit-Lachem. Only 8 weeks until we read Ruth on Shavuot!
Andrea Katz
01:04:02
can you promise us that Trump won’t last?
marsha melnick’s iPad
01:04:13
the One will laugh - any other translations for laugh
Kat's iPhone
01:04:20
Hallelujah! 😉
Tim
01:04:22
I have wondered why some of my siddurim have "Mashiv ha-ruach u'morid ha-gashem" and others have "...ha-geshem". I think this grammar point may be why!
Naomi Hirsch
01:04:37
We can have a Psalms grammar geek group! Yes, TIM, that’s it!
idamessana
01:04:38
he who is enthroned in heaven laughs
Nina Luban
01:04:39
enthroned in heaven
Joseph
01:04:40
He who is enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord mocks them
Betsy Imershein
01:04:44
But the One who sits in heaven laughs. God will ridicule them
douglas
01:04:45
that's why Marx called it the opiate of the people.
Ellen Poster
01:04:52
who is enthroned in heaven laughs
Stephen Dym
01:04:57
He that sitters in heaven laugheth
Jinny Henenberg
01:05:00
he that sitteth in heaven will laugh
Darina Ivanova
01:05:01
He that sitteth in heaven laugheth
Emily Greene
01:05:06
He wrote sits in heaven will laugh, God will mock them
Emily Greene
01:05:14
He who, not wrote
Laurie Krotman
01:05:20
Alter: He who dwells in the heavens will laugh, the Master derides them"
Allison Drew Klein
01:05:31
the master derides them
Marilyn Greenberg
01:05:32
You laugh at them, hold them up in derision
Jeremy Lawrence
01:05:47
He who sits in heaven will laugh the Lord will mock them
douglas
01:05:52
unfortunately, we need to see results in our daily lives, not
Marilyn Greenberg
01:06:04
But He, who presides over the Heaven
Marilyn Greenberg
01:06:38
...just laughs, Yah derides them
Donna Gray
01:07:17
In my version of Fischer Psalm 2 isn't there,
Marilyn Greenberg
01:07:29
Fischer says "You speak your anger for them, terrifying thenm in your confoundedness"
Ira Rosenblum
01:07:36
That’s the version I have
Ellen Poster
01:08:28
opposite of mindfulness and kavenah
Hilary Nudell
01:08:42
I see G-d's anger as the bit of reality.
Hilary Nudell
01:08:45
bite
Kat's iPhone
01:10:00
Also, to mirror what the Rabbi rejected, to make a stark contrast between the “angry” G-d of the First Testament and the “loving” G-d of the Second Testament is inaccurate, since Yeshua - the face of God to those who identify as Christian - got angry at times (righteous anger), according to the Second Testament text. He could put his foot down! : - )
Naomi Hirsch
01:10:41
Wondering about this: We are created in G!d’s image. We humans get angry, so G!d does as well. It makes sense to me that humans writing Psalms, would want an explanation for their strong emotion of anger, as well as looking to find a way to control it. So they attribute that quality to G!d.
Joseph
01:10:47
So the line from verse 6 about mt. zion is from a different perspective?
Kat's iPhone
01:10:58
Yes, Hilary - righteous anger aligned with reality, versus indulgent anger....
Jeffrey Weiss
01:11:51
I just want to thank you Rabbi. This is very informative.
David Grotell
01:11:59
Could be their accents.
Darina Ivanova
01:12:04
Wow, somebody Sephardic here!
Naomi Hirsch
01:12:14
Shep, I don’t know why, but I’ve heard it and seen it in their Siddurim as well.
Donna Gray
01:14:16
It's midrash
Stephen Dym
01:14:19
It’s like global warming, the Nations exploit our home by drilling and burning and “The Infinite” shows her anger in the natural way by fighting back with hurricanes, rising tides…When
Darina Ivanova
01:15:31
Wow, now to find some Bulgarian Sephardic Jews to ask...
Saul’s iPad
01:15:38
Very true for music. The musician brings meaning to the notes.
Kat's iPhone
01:15:56
True, Naomi - in psychology that is called “Oedipal Religion,” AKA projecting our human qualities and tendencies onto G-d. That being acknowledged, perhaps there is an essential truth in there, too - that is, something deeper than our projection....since, yes, we are made in G-d’s image.
Naomi Hirsch
01:16:10
For the grammar geeks among us: http://considerthesource2.blogspot.com/2011/11/geshem-and-gashem.html I Googled “Sephardic liturgy and pausal form” (without the quotes). I skimmed this and they point out that the pausal form is an Ashkenazi “thing”: “Much of Ashkenazi liturgy was recast into biblical style in recent centuries, and we sometimes go hog wild, as it were, with the pausalities.”
Peter Klein
01:16:38
The classic?: Traduttore? Traditore! And yet, how else can we understand one another as no matter what one may say or intend, the understanding is never exactly the same.
David Grotell
01:18:41
If we can’t make it to this class in real time, can we watch it later?
Steve Fruh/Paul Marsolini
01:18:45
Thank you everyone for a great morning.
Betsy Imershein
01:18:46
Thank you, thank you Harold!!! So wonderful to have you do this for us!!
Harold Levine
01:20:39
Recordings of all the classes will eventually be put up on the CBST website. I’ll check to see where we are. Visit the FB page for an update.
Kat's iPhone
01:21:28
🙏😇☺️🙏 Beautiful! Wow: Thanks!
Nina Luban
01:21:33
Thank you, Rabbi and all.
SJohnston
01:21:34
Thank you to everyone!
David Grotell
01:21:43
thanks Harold
Darina Ivanova
01:21:49
Thank you!
Jen Marshall
01:21:49
Thank you. Stay healthy.
Lena Magnone
01:21:51
Thank you!
Kat's iPhone
01:21:58
Thank you, Rabbi~
Jeffrey Weiss
01:22:11
Thank you Rabbi.
Ruth Messinger
01:22:14
thanks so much rabbi and Harold!
Naomi Hirsch
01:23:36
I realize most of us hung up. For music geeks: Great article re Mah Nishtana melodies! https://www.jewish-music.huji.ac.il/content/four-melodies-four-questions-some-new-findings
Darina Ivanova
01:23:57
The Facebook group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/CBSTPsalms/