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Emma Ryan (she/her)
Looks good!
Fred Hapgood
I live in a condo with a parking lot. At some point owners are gong to want start buying EVs, Whenthat happens we are going to need to think about running wires out to chargers in the lot. I am having a lot of trouble thinking about this. It would be cheapest to do the entire lot in one pass but there will certainly be lot owners who won't want to pay their piece. But installing chargers one at a time would increase costs significantly. What do I do?
Dennis Nahas
I wonder how closely that tracks with housing costs
Laura Wagner, she hers
My thoughts exactly. The distance between affordable house and jobs has grown considerably.
Dennis Nahas
I would push back against the idea that people moved to the suburbs simply because they wanted space and lawns, racism and white flight we're a big part of it
jim s
so, penalize people who need to drive to get to work?why not put some disincentives on the real estate?
Emma Ryan (she/her)
it’s also a regressive tax in terms of greatest financial burden
jim s
voter preferences -- target the majority of voters, not the minority of voters
jim s
# commuters and renters >>>> # developers/RE managers
jim s
need to look at the passenger miles in different way:-- miles grouped by distance drived -- 1-2mi, 3-5mi, 6-10mi, 10-20mi, etc. -- give better view of where might be opportunities
Jeanne Trubek
To convince more people to use mass transit, you have to have in place good reliable mass transit. People can't take buses that don't exist.
Emma Ryan (she/her)
Dennis Nahas
We should understand there are limits but still pull out the stops and maximize public transit trips, every car trip replaced by transit counts
jim s
yes, JT, and volume of transit by time - - # per hour per times of day
jim s
sorry, frequency + volume
jim s
note: production cost (pollution) of building EVs -- is this offsetting the gain from the EV reduced emissions?
William H Green
The cost of personal car travel is primarily the cost of the vehicle, and perhaps also the time spend by the driver. The cost of the fuel is secondary. The gas tax is a very small component. Even a very high gas tax like in Europe is not enough to change the total cost of driving so much that someone who owns a car is not going to drive it.
Adrian Gropper
Link to this doc, please....
jim s
what is the percent contribution of transportation sector to overall pie of carbon emissions?
jim s
income-level based subsidies -- lower income, higher subsidies
Jeanne Trubek
it's 40% - 45%
jim s
JT -- transportation as % of total? (thank you!)
Dennis Nahas
Excise tax based on size and weight / fuel efficiency?
Emma Ryan (she/her)
Strongly support moving towards fare-free transit!
Dennis Nahas
Great ideas
William Brownsberger
Here is the doc we are looking at: https://willbrownsberger.com/reducing-transportation-emissions/
Is there enough capacity in the electric grid system to handle a sizable increase in the number of electric cars?
William Brownsberger
Great question, Mary. Not yet, but expanding that capacity is one of the things that the state is trying to do.
Jeanne Trubek
Uber and Lyft drivers have to buy and maintain their own vehicles. Requiring them to be EVs is putting the burden on low income workers.
Rose Mauro
The legislature should keep an eye on remote policies for the state workforce -- historically very hostile to telecommuting, but a significant number of commuters who could be taken off the road by reducing days in the office. The state put a lot of money into making remote work possible but without supervision I can see the effect of that being wasted.
Dean Murphy
Will - you suggested that transport will be harder to decarbonize than buildings, and that we'll get more reductions from the latter. I respectfully disagree; buildings will be much harder. EVs are a decent substitute for ICEs, and vehicles get replaced every ~12-15yrs, so just need to go EV in one of the next 2+ vehicle lifetimes to 2050. Buildings don't get replaced often (even their heat systems); retrofits to electrify heat are costly, and unique to every building, often requiring significant construction (new ductwork, piping...). Which of course doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on transport - we absolutely need to. But it's the easy (or easier) part.
William Brownsberger
Deb, here are the numbers on the transportation energy efficiency. https://willbrownsberger.com/transit-energy-efficiency/
William Brownsberger
I don't disagree with you, Dean. I'm just saying that EoEEA is pricing it as easier which is striking, because I agree that buildings are hard.
jim s
then why not have a lottery to give the EVs to uber/lyft/taxi drivers? autonomous not ready for years
jim s
we could do the lottery now!
Leonid Sigal
Best approach is one that keep costs low and incentives high. First, push the costs on the private sector and major corporations, not the individual/state consumer. It's unrealistic to make everyone who works for a ridesharing company to require them to own an electric vehicle. Instead, you can tax those ridesharing companies based on the mileage of non-EV and incentive them to offer incentives to have their contractors operate an EV. Also, tax Amazon, Fed EX, and UPS on their emissions and make sure that their operate EV
Leonid Sigal
Also, incentivize companies to have their employees to work from home. At least, maybe a hybrid model.
Brandon Gibbs
https://sustainableamerica.org/blog/what-is-ecodriving/ Eco-driving offers some GHG reduction but getting people in Boston to change driving habits.
Sarah Putnam
How about the Swedish model of electrified highways for trucks?
Leonid Sigal
William Brownsberger
Steven Paris
Thank you Will!
Brandon Gibbs
Thank you