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Ecosystem Foundry WG / Trust over IP Foundation - Shared screen with speaker view
Drummond Reed
12:36
Are we recording?
sankarshan
13:21
We are.
Drummond Reed
13:21
I see we are, all good
Jim St.Clair
15:08
Sorry all!
Drummond Reed
15:49
That should be “ToIP Layer 4 ecosystem governance framework”
Dan Gisolfi
18:19
What are the deliverables of the TF
Drummond Reed
19:08
@Dan The deliverable is an Implementation Plan
Paul Knowles
19:17
paul@sovrin.org
Dan Gisolfi
19:51
+1 Drummond. I would also suggest Best Practices/Policies.
sankarshan
20:04
+1 Dan. Noted.
sankarshan
21:06
https://wiki.trustoverip.org/display/HOME/Sovrin+Ecosystem+Governance+Framework+Task+Force (the page is actively WIP)
Dan Gisolfi
22:00
Utility or Ecosystem?
Drummond Reed
22:15
+1 Dan
Nicky Hickman
22:49
Would just add that this ecosystem is also focused on a user or people-convened ecosystem rather than from industry perspective
Drummond Reed
22:55
To clarify: THIS TF is for the Sovrin Ecosystem Governance Framework. In the Utility Foundry Working Group, there is a proposal to start a TF for the Sovrin Utility Governance Framework.
Drummond Reed
23:20
Nicky, that point is important enough that I hope you would speak to it for a moment
Drummond Reed
25:40
For anyone interested, here is a background document about both the Sovrin Ecosystem Governance Framework and Sovrin Utility Governance Framework that explains the purpose and uses of these two GFs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eu2e8dNSCzcqHnEQ_8aMWAC5Tn9qoMNQi-H59MRUMgs/edit?usp=sharing
Steve Magennis
26:31
@Nicky, do you anticipate including L3 as part of the identity for all ecosystem?
Dan Gisolfi
26:52
It would be helpful if the SUGF-TF reps can connect with UFWG. We can help bootstrap the publishing tools for the GF.
sankarshan
27:26
Dan - the SUGF TF reps will be doing a similar intro and considering the inputs from you also square out the process aspects
Drummond Reed
27:27
Dan, yes, I’ll mention that
Paul Knowles
31:22
True, Drummond. It is industry-sector agnostic.
Paul Knowles
31:53
Many others will be sector-specific.
Dan Gisolfi
32:11
+1 Paul
Nicky Hickman
33:29
we have cunning plans for how you deliver on SSI as a universal service @ Karl
Dan Gisolfi
33:47
Sovrin /= ToIP; Sovrin represents an instance of an ecosystem based of ToIP concepts/guidance.
Drummond Reed
34:10
Exactly! Class/instance.
Nicky Hickman
34:18
+1
Drummond Reed
34:30
ToIP = class, Sovrin = instance
Michael Shea
34:37
ToIP is all class …. ;-)
Drummond Reed
34:45
HA!
Dan Gisolfi
34:47
We get it but we ned to externalize that message and avoid “myths”
Paul Knowles
36:06
We’ll be putting out a Sovrin blog post to ensure that the relationship between Sovrin and ToIP is crystal-clear.
Dan Gisolfi
37:05
I think ToIP Comm need to do the same analyst example ecosystems: Sovrin, SiSe, Lumedic, etc
Nicky Hickman
37:48
Exactly @ Dan a picture of the layers with examples of GF's and utilities including but not only Sovrin
Nicky Hickman
38:47
Sorry I have to go to another call, look forward to seeing the rest of this call on catch up. x
Dan Gisolfi
42:58
As an Ecosystem Project under ToIP EFWG or consuming EFWG guidance, who are the stakeholders of SiSe?
Dan Gisolfi
44:24
Referring back to the EFWG Workflow Swimlanes…where is SiSe Project in that workflow?
Dan Gisolfi
46:07
So who is convening the ecosystem project?
Jim St.Clair
46:13
There's an ecosystem role for immigrant banking as well
Paul Knowles
46:26
Is this an instance of the governance defined by the CCI TF?
sankarshan
47:31
I’d think that the “solution” to the end use case presented by Entidad is a blended work of TFs and WGs with clear governance authority roles and processes established.
sankarshan
48:06
I wonder if we should have a separate focus call to use this as an example of how existing mature work can help addressing the challenges Entidad is planning to take on.
Jim St.Clair
50:29
+1 Sankarshan,
Jim St.Clair
50:54
It's a "network of networks" :)
Paul Knowles
51:23
+1
Dan Gisolfi
54:33
We need to differentiate between a TF and real ecosystem projects that are operating solutions
Paul Knowles
59:00
There is an opportunity to go more granular with a FG (focus group) which can act as fantastic learnings for broader adoption in a broad sector TF (task force).
Jim St.Clair
59:21
+1 Paul
Steve Magennis
01:04:59
+1