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John Luna Lecture: The Speaking Surface - Shared screen with speaker view
Rachel Hellner
53:24
So excited to be here… have wanted to attend for years but am always away for it
John Luna
54:41
Lovely to see you again Rachel!
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
01:04:01
Yet Ruscha's oft repeated motivation was transcendence and monumental significance
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
01:12:44
" signs and all that they bring to us you know all these funny shapes.....are brought together in a single line and eventually begins to mean something, greater glory, lots of ppotential for making expressions"
Vancouver Island School of Art
01:27:57
Maybe the third museum was the Whitney?
Vancouver Island School of Art
01:48:03
John do you know when this work was done?
Vancouver Island School of Art
01:48:39
Very interesting. I’ve never heard of this artist.
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:00:12
I want to bring back the word “hobo”
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:01:53
The word Hobo is alive and well if you hang with the elementary school crowd
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:02:18
Really? What does it mean to them?
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:02:50
The homeless, but more as a term of distaste
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:04:29
I always think of it as more positive as in a person who has a goal and is actively trying to get somewhere. Maybe this sounds politically incorrect. But the hobo was always looking for work in exchange for something…
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:05:55
I saw Blake Shelton use it in a derogatory manner in his Christmas special a few years ago... it's been revived by the non left elite it seems
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:06:28
The work is so well-organized
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:08:06
that is why it surprises me when I hear it used today.....to us who are too familiar with depression stories hobo means someone who needs compassion not derision. And then some of us were brought up with The Littlest Hobo so how can it be a bad term? :-)
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:14:33
what happened to Parisian artists during occupation is the exact thing that happened to Berlin art community in the 1930s torture, concentration camps exile interiror exile and banned from making art
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:18:10
Would you say is a bit of a far-fetched analogy on his part… cheese… wine…
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:19:13
We are talking about works he throws on the ground… just saying…
Ira Hoffecker
02:45:53
romanian born = Paul Celan 1920-1970
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:46:43
can you spell the Jewish German's poet's name please?
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:47:03
thank you
Ira Hoffecker
02:48:00
Wrote in German, one of the most important German language poets after WWII. Anselm Kiefer is referring to Celan’s poems in many of his paintings
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:48:41
Interesting… for some reason I always thought he was French.
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:49:25
Romanian-born German-language poet and translator. He was born as Paul Antschel to a Jewish family in Cernăuți
Ira Hoffecker
02:49:28
He lived in France
Ira Hoffecker
02:49:52
Most of his family was killed in the Holocaust
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
02:49:56
There were many German language communities throughout Europe
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:50:43
It’s is hard for me to look at his work and not think of his wife Charline von Heyl. Not sure why.
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:51:02
Work is so different and yet their is an overlap,
Vancouver Island School of Art
02:57:33
And Schor is very active on social media (Facebook)
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:06:48
I find it surprising that citation has to be justified but that might be because I’m from another generation.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:07:45
I mean that of course citation is necessaey
Joan Halvorsen
03:07:51
Presence and experience, viewing art in person instead of on-line, etc. reminds me of the value of Primary experience as compared to Secondary experience.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:08:13
There needs to be more citation!
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:10:13
It's why the mantra " art needs to be of our time" makes me cringe
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:10:31
as if all that is in the past is in the past
Jane
03:12:38
thanks forall this amazing research and new painters. love the idea of co-prescence.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:13:10
I would say that our time is part of the past. I don’t think the two are at all separate. For example people who paint “impressionistic” landscapes aren’t living in our time but are living in the past. That isn’t good either.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:16:08
I love the semi-colon. But Malcom Galdwell says it is worst punctuation mark ever. He says it is non-committal and indefinite.
Jane
03:16:45
Great reference to collaboration, references to bodies' somtimes violated and portrayed with the Me Too Movement:::::;;;;;;;;;
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:18:48
a semi colon is an either/ and ; not an either/ or.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:20:35
It’s very Canadian.
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:20:47
lolololol
Jane
03:24:08
your knowledge and being right on are no coincidence. so rich and relvant bfor me right now
Ira Hoffecker
03:26:53
Molly Zuckerman-Hartung : just looked up her body of work, some paintings recall Sigmar Polke (What are Years). Very intriguing work. Thank you for introducing
Ira Hoffecker
03:32:37
In Berlin 2017: very impressive exhibition of Holzer’s benches and other work at spruethmagers.com. On this website you will find great images of her body of work too
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:37:52
He was surveilled by the FBI for many years which apparently led to his eventually suicide (or murder?)
Ira Hoffecker
03:42:45
It would be interesting to see what Lombardi would produce in the present day politics….
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:43:39
I never saw this connection… but of course now it seems obvious due to the diagrammic nature of the work.
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:45:03
RBG was the third way… :(
Rachel Hellner
03:46:23
The Notorious RBG?
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:46:40
Exactly
Anne Marie McPartlin
03:48:45
thank you so much John and Wendy for providing such a wonderful lecture! must go (I'm on Eastern Time), but very grateful
Vancouver Island School of Art
03:49:29
So happy to see you Anne Marie virtually! Take one of our online courses some time.
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:55:56
Thank you so much John....if we'd wanted to flee we would not be here still now....
mary
03:56:02
Thank you John! and Wendy
( Jaqueline) Cornelia
03:56:06
beach for the brain
Rachel Hellner
03:56:09
Thank you so much, John, and Wendy - I feel like I’ve just had a blood transfusion (in a good way :)
Ira Hoffecker
03:56:52
thank you so much John and Wendy. What a gift !
Rachel Hellner
03:58:24
Will they be online?
Rachel Hellner
04:00:05
Absolutely
Rachel Hellner
04:00:19
I was expecting to donate for this one too.
Ira Hoffecker
04:00:23
absolutely !