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Provider Relief Fund Discussion with HHS Advisor Nick Uehlecke - Shared screen with speaker view
Trish
15:31
Where do you validate the TIN?
vlai
15:33
Regarding the Nov. 27th deadline, if my TIN has already been validated when I applied for phase 2 distribution, will the Nov. 27th deadline still applies? Thanks
Bobby English
16:48
Can someone mute everyone...
amiller
17:09
We have been waiting for our Tax ID to be validated. How does this relate to the deadlines.
Trish
17:52
What type of supporting document would qualify for revenue and expense? Statement of Operations?
Homeyra
17:54
we have two assisted Living Facilities and did not know about this, how do we apply
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
18:19
@Trish, to apply and have your TIN validated, please visit the Application and Attestation Portal: https://cares.linkhealth.com/#/
Cathy Neece Brown
18:19
Can nursing centers apply in phase 3? Confused on quarterly reporting requirements and format.
brandon
18:41
What is the difference between Phase 2 and Phase 3?
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
19:35
@Vlai, yes, if your TIN has already been validated under previous General Distribution phases, you must reenter the portal by 11/6 @ 11:59PM EST and will have until 11/27 @ 11:59PM EST, to complete and submit an application
jessica guillory
19:37
I applied for and received funding from phase 2. I applied and received a reply that my application for phase 3 was accepted, but have been unable to determine the status of that application. Is this indicative of a problem?
LHacker
19:39
Is the money guaranteed under phase 2?
nia_r
19:41
I have applied for phase 2 and phase 3 and I haven't gotten any response or funding.
John F. Keane, Jr.
19:52
We have two licenses (SNF and ALF) that are under the same tax id? Are we able to apply for Assisted Living if we have already received SNF funds under the tax id?
Molly
20:05
I have been in TIN verification for weeks and status doesn't change from processing; is there anything I can do at this point?
scribbs
20:35
What are the terms and conditions for the 4 incentive payments paid Oct, Nov, Dec, and January? Will we have to report on these payments, as well, or are they considered the facility's funds when received?
Kevin Tomlinson
20:47
We purchased a stand alone MEM care building 11/1/2020. The seller received Phase 2 funds. Can we as the new owner apply for Phase 3 funds?
Deanne
21:23
What is considered "patient care" revenue: rent? meals? or just services?
ricksheppard
21:36
TIN registrations for two of our entities have been in the system since September and we still have not received approval to proceed to the Phase 2 applications process. The portal and the help line continue to say that they are in review.
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
21:40
For more information on what documents are needed, please refer to the portal instruction and FAQs available on our website: www.hhs.gov/providerrelief
Amy Seils
21:47
If due to a CHOW, the targeted Infection Control distributions were returned by the prior owner. Will the Phase 3 application help us to receive those funds?
Michelle
22:01
We are an ALF and haven't received phase 2 yet. What is the timing on the phase 2 payments?
Meghan M
22:03
What is the calculation for the Phase 3 funds and what is the expected timing on payments?
lkelly
22:11
we filed for Phase II and will we file for Phase III if in fact does it apply to us (as we’re in construction).
Darnella Barrow
22:11
We can we expect to receive Phase 3 funds?
Patricia Horn
22:25
If we received funding in the Medicaid-AL phase. Can we apply again?
Marv
22:30
WE have never received any funding from Phase
cbunting
22:32
Can we fill for a senior meals program?
Tucker Fife
22:33
Us as well
Erin Elias
22:34
Is this only for licensed AL?
Norma Cooper
22:40
I submitted Phase II under one application with our management entity EIN and listed the 22 other EIN's. It was valiated but no funding has been seen. Then in Phase III I applied with the 22 individual EIN's. Will this cause a problem with getting approval and/or funding?
Holli Willis
22:50
We are having the same issue can not get the TIN approved
Amy Seils
22:55
Do we need to be past the TIN approval request by Nov 6th or just to that step?
amiller
23:06
We are having the same issue with the Tax ID #
Molly
23:16
same here for TIN
Sallie Ray Williams
23:53
if our EIN has already been approved in other phases, do we need to re-submit?
BD
24:03
if we received funds in phase 2, are phase 3 funds available as well?
Pam Wolfe
24:11
Heartsworth House Assisted Living
Tucker Fife
24:12
Comment from help line is we are on hold awaiting state agency approval, but can't tell us how to get that state approval.
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
24:20
Phase 3 of the General Distribution will take into account documentation of financial impact of COVID-19, as reported by applicants. The payment methodology will ensure a provider has received 2% of annual revenue from patient care either as part of the previous phases of the General Distribution or under a Phase 3 payment. Phase 3 may also take into account a provider’s change in operating revenues from patient care, minus their operating expenses from patient care. Phase 3 payment will also take into account funds received and kept under prior General and Targeted Distributions. While HHS has made payments on a rolling basis under the previous general distributions, Phase 3 final payment amounts for applicants who have already received payments equaling 2% of annual patient care revenue will be determined once all applications have been received and reviewed.
Timothy Dockerty
24:23
Battle Creek Assisted Living Operator, LLC
Bergers
24:25
I have one entity that is still with HHS
Joie
24:28
Willow Gardens, Inc and Willow Towers, Inc
Pam Wolfe
24:30
Heartsworth House Assisted Living - Vinita OK
Molly
24:31
Showalter Center Inc. (Warm Hearth Village) is waiting on TIN approval
Sharla Aloisio
24:39
OakmontEstates Assisted Living- Louisiana
Bobby English
24:43
Optimum Personal Care, Inc and OPC Sugar Land I, LLC Please confirm I am in the system and the TIN has been validated. Thanks...
Marv
24:44
We have not received any funding from phase 2. both phases were accepted and said to be completed in the portal. haven't heard any confirmation from anyone.
JAMES HIGGINS
24:48
The Meadows, Burlington, KS
Jimmy Ray Dalton
24:55
St Martin Village, Heritage Place Assisted Living Rapid City
cchow
24:57
Carlton Senior Living, LLC - waiting for TIN validation
BD
24:57
would be nice if the web portal would make it clear that an application has been submitted.
Tucker Fife
24:58
Touchmark at Mt. Bachelor Village is awaiting TIN verification
d.schroeder
25:06
Pines Village Retirement Communities, Inc.
Michael Shoemaker - Rose Estates
25:08
Rose Estates Assisted Living LLC
charity stackhouse
25:10
We applied for Halcyon Senior Living and Metis Long Term Care Consulting. Our TIN is sitting with no approval to move forward. I have called HHS and was told that we have to apply for a Optum Account to have funds direct depositied? They say this is the hold up?
Bruce Mackey
25:14
I have a TIN for Danvers MC Owners awaiting validation.
Sophia Stablewski
25:19
Heathwood Assisted Living at Williamsville, Inc and Heathwood Assisted Living at Penfield, Inc
Bethany Stevenson
25:20
Brooks Rehabilitation Bartram Lakes
Jessica Wade
25:32
Is the application criteria exclusive for providers contracted for Meidicaid/Mediare?
kiralya
25:35
Sunrise Retirement Community, Fountainview Assisted Living, Sioux City, IA.
Aaron
25:37
Waiting for TIN validation on TCG Corpus Christi Campus, LLC and TCG Rocklin Campus, LLC
vp
25:48
Community Memorial Hospitals, Nursing Home\
Brian.Durbin
25:58
Arcadia of Elizabethtown HoldCo LLC dba Robinbrooke Senior Living. Elizabethtown, Ky.
Krishna Reddy
25:58
can you explain difference between ph 2 and ph 3?
Jimmy Ray Dalton
26:01
Echo Ridge Manor Assisted Living Rapid City
Glenis Zempel
26:02
Is there a timeline for the funds in phase 3 to be released?
noliver
26:09
My company, Windsor of Savoy, does not bill Medicare or Medicaid-does that affect the TIN validation process as we too have been waiting and cannot move forward without it
Rhonda Ramsey
26:11
Waiting for TIN validation for Parc Tradition, LP
Holli Willis
26:13
Featherstone Assisted Living of Moore
jbata
26:23
Two entities TIN not validated: SHP V Waters of Edina LLC and SHP V WSLG Oakdale LLC
Kent Libbe
26:27
Kingston Residence of Hickory is having challenges getting TIN approved.
Sandra-Dee
26:31
Pacifica Senior Living, Santa Fe, NM
cegan
26:39
Waiting 2 months now for TIN validation - Woodland Terrace of New Palestine, LLC
allen
26:42
Rockgate Assisted Living Facility LLC, Cowan, TN
VWeiler
26:53
Our TIN's have been in the validation processing stage in Phase 2 since Sept 8, 2020. Do I need to remove these TIN's to begin the Phase 3 application. Cambrian Senior Living - 3 locations.
cegan
26:53
Waiting 2 months now for TIN validation - Justus at Woodland Terrace, LLC
Holli Willis
26:54
Featherstone Assisted Living of Durant and Featherstone Assisted Living of Ada
Maureen Parrish
26:57
Will we be able to get the recorded call? Not everyone from my organization was able to make the call.
Abdi
27:30
What can you do if your EIN is not benign recognized by the system or on the portal ?
JKimmel (New)
27:32
TIN not validated for 5 facilities - all CCAL Holdings, LLC dba Constant Care Assisted Living
kevin.thompson
27:36
Waiting on TIN validation - Atria Senior Living, Inc. and Maplewood Place Associates, LLC
cegan
27:48
Waiting more than one month for funding after TIN validation - Walter E Justus Trust F/B/O Walter G Justus.
Ashley
27:49
TIN not validated. James and Carol Lynn Herrera Ent. DBA Life Spire Living. New Mexico
jessica guillory
27:51
same here
Kim Pitsenbarger
27:57
We received phase 2 funding. Can we apply for phase 3 as well? What is required for phase 3?
Carol
28:01
I am waiting for TIN Validation on Greeley Memory Care LLC DBA Windsong at Northridge, Greeley, CO
Christyl Lange
28:10
Tapestry Senior Housing Development applied for phase 3 several weeks ago
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
28:19
Providers who have previously received a payment under Phase 1 or Phase 2 of the General Distribution are eligible to apply for a payment even if they have previously received a disbursement of 2% of annual revenue from patient care. Providers who have not previously received a General Distribution payment, or an amount that is less than 2% of patient care revenue, may also apply for funds if they meet the above eligibility criteria.
Hope
28:32
Are city owned AL eligible for funding?
SaraChilds
28:38
SHP V Avon Villas, Deerfield Senior Living LLC, Beaumont Senior Living LLC, Lexington Senior Living LLC, Highgrove Cottages LLC, Raccoon Creek Senior Living LLC, Middleton Cottages, LLC, Columbus East Senior Living, LLC, Madeira Senior LIving, LLC, Georgetown Senior LIving, LLC
Mike McElroy
28:38
This is Mike McElroy from Highland Assisted Living and Memory Care in Jackson Michigan. I applied for Phase 2 Provider Relief funding back in September and I never heard back about verification for my TIN. I have subseguently applied for Phase 3 a few days ago. It says my TIN is being verified again. How can I follow up on my Phase 2 application.
Holli Willis
28:55
Same here
Aneena Patel
29:04
Thank you for taking the time to discuss! The HHS FAQs state that TIN validation AND financial information is due by 11/6 for any entity that either applied for Phase 2 funding OR received general distribution phase 1 funding. The HHS Provider Relief hotline is providing the guidance that because the TIN validation feature was introduced in Phase 2, the 11/6 deadline only applies to entities who applied for phase 2 and already underwent the TIN validation process. Could you please provide some clarification as to which of these two pieces of guidance is accurate?
SaraChilds
29:37
North Bend Senior Living, LLC
johman
29:57
If our AL and SNF are under the same TIN, do we have to submit sperate applications or just one?
bryan casey
30:25
We received monies in Phase 2 that were deposited into a bank account. However, we have no link to the account. UHC tells us they cant give us any information besides the fact that the account ends in 9. How can we verify an account number?
Holli Willis
30:32
You can't go further in the application until your TIN is verified
Kimberly Bowles
30:35
What if we do not have an NPI #? WE at St. Katharine's are still awaiting TIN approval.
ricksheppard
30:46
This is Rick Sheppard with Silverstone Senior Living. Sheffield Richey at ASHA in Washington, DC contacted you about our two outstanding TIN applications and reports that they are in your system. Those entities are SilverLion Partners I and Silverstone Palm Beach Gardens LP. Those two applications have been in your system since September.
maxgabriel@generationsllc.com
31:13
We have been waiting on our Tins from phase 2 to get validated for about 2 months now. The online portal will NOT allow us to submit for phase 3 while we are awaiting Tin validation.
Molly
31:14
you can't do the application without TIN verification. I don't understand how she can say that
thayhurst
31:37
Fellowship Home at Brookside Inc , Fellowship Home of Nashville Inc, Fellowship Home at Cordelia Manor Inc, Fellowship Home at Meriwether Inc, Fellowship Home at Cotton Hill, Inc., Fellowship Home at the Fairway LLC
tony marzelli
31:38
If We received funds under Phase 2 do we need to attest before we can apply for Phase 3?
Amy Taylor
31:49
Our TIN has been "validating" since phase 2 and still hasn't been approved. you can't move forward until it's approved. When will the state be approving these?
lmaryanski
31:50
what is the expected time frame to expect funds to hit our accounts?
Trupti Dhar
32:12
can we apply for phase 3 even if we have received funds from phase 2?
Meghan M
32:57
What is the expected payment date for phase 3?
dustinfields
33:35
We submitted 3 TIN’s on time in Phase 2 and they continue to say verigying TIN’s and have not received any news. Been trying to call HHS and said they would call 24-48 hours and no one has called from a week ago…
Kimberly Bowles
33:44
Kim Bowles, St. Katharine Drexel Retirement Center in El Reno, Oklahoma
jlongley
33:54
Still waiting for TIN Validation for the following entities: Murfreesboro Operations LLC, Greensboro Operations LLC, Hershey Operations LLC, WV Operations LLC, Eastchase Operations LLC, Hanover IL Operations, and Harmony Senior Services LLC. Thank you.
nia_r
34:02
DITTO.
hilda Eagleton
34:20
Quality Living(Rohinikico) Assisted Living 2029 FM1092 Missouricity, 77459 Dr Hilda Eagleton 713-5624561
Betsy Wieand (HRSA)
34:48
HHS intends to issue Phase 3 – General Distribution payments as soon as practical following the Phase 3 application deadline.
BeeHive Homes of Bloomington
35:03
We applied for phase 1 as well as phase 2, but both applications did not move beyond TIN verification phase. How do we make sure that we get through TIN verification. I believe out TIN is not on curated list.
Wayne Johnson
35:17
There's a problem in getting past the page to apply for Phase 3 because of not being able to attest to Phase 2 money being deposited into the account. Still waiting on Phase 2 funds. My questions are:1- If we applied for Phase 2 and were approved, is our TIN still approved for Phase 3 for the Oct 7 deadline or do we have to re-submit for Phase 3 approval?2- If it is still approved, do we have until the end of Nov to complete the Phase 3 application and upload our financials?3- IF, our TIN is not approved for Phase 3, and we can’t get past this screen, will we miss the Nov 7 deadline?
dustinfields
35:25
FSL Magnolia Place LLC, Bakersfield CA , FSL Magnolia Court LLC, Vacaville CA, Fields Weatherly Court LLC, Medford OR, we applied in phase 2 and never approved our Pins , ,
sheila
35:48
When can we expect our Phase 3 funding?
Todd Marsh
35:52
Has there been any consideration for a smaller percentage of AL providers who operate a start up development for Assisted Living during COVID. Newly built developments in the first 18-24 months lose money but revenue increases. So the impact on revenue is not fairly stated by the application process or method of determining loss. Start up occupancy/revenue, negatively impacted but revenues increase. Any way to explain a special circumstance or is that a possibility?
Daniel Stiles
37:02
Oklahoma here, I run a non-profit SNF and AL. I got phase 1 and 2 on the SNF, but nothing on the AL. How do I make sure we are listed on your list as both SNF and AL? Thank you.
BeeHive Homes of Bloomington
37:04
How do we get on curated TIN list?
Michelle
37:51
Punchbowl Retirement Center, LLC; Ukuwai Properties, LLC; Plaza at Moanalua, LP; Plaza at Pearl City, LP; Plaza at Waikiki, LP
Brian.Durbin
39:19
If we were approved for Phase 2 but have not received payment yet, do we still submit again in phase 3? We set up an Optum account and are just waiting for payment.
MichelleW
40:38
If you received funds from Phase 1 and 2 should you apply for Phase 3?
Marv
40:47
Both phase 2 and Phase 3 only asked for TIN numbers and said it was complete. If I try to go further it wants another TIN.
Tucker Fife
41:13
We have a community that operates private pay IL, AL and MC as well as SNF that has medicare. We received targeted distributions for the SNF as part of phase I. We submitted our phase II application on 2% of 2019 tax return revenue (including the SNF) and received a payment; however it was reduced by the targeted SNF payment previously received. It was our understanding that targeted distributions would not impact the amount for Phase 2?
Ryan Duncan
42:47
it wont let us validate it for phase 3 if its still in progress for phase 2
Norma Cooper
43:12
My Phase II was submitted the first day it was opened and is green complete. I have not received any notice or funds. What is holding it up?
Susan Kesterson
43:38
I was able to apply for phase 3 but did not have to validate TIN again
Sonya Kemp
44:03
You cannot log in without validating
racho
44:58
It doesn't allow you to validate the TIN a second time
racho
45:13
Once your TIN is validated, you can not enter that same TIN again
Christyl Lange
46:04
I am trying to ask a question we have some new communities that were start ups in 2019 so the Q1 and Q2 2019 compared to Q1 and Q2 of 2020 will not support the lost revenue of move ins and additional Covid expenses
Gidgette Chesley
46:20
can I get meeting passwrod?
sbeke
46:52
I went into validate my TIN how long does it take to know if it is validated? Right now it is showing Validate TIN - Processing.
thayhurst
48:25
We submitted TIN's for phase 2 they stayed in Validation in Process. when I called about phase 3 I was told to remove the TIN's and resubmit for phase 3. No payment for phase 2 was received. No application was able to be submitted at all for phase 2 because TIN's were never verified.
rdevasher
49:47
From the website: Tax Identification Number (TIN) Validation ProcessIs there anything different about the TIN validation process for Phase 3 compared to the process for Phase 2? (Added 10/5/2020)Providers that have received General Distribution payments under Phases 1 and/or 2 will not undergo any further validation. Providers that are newly eligible under Phase 3 will be subject to TIN validation processes similar to those employed under Phase 2.
nia_r
52:40
DITTO!!
Sonya Kemp
52:52
DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darnella Barrow
52:56
same here
jessica guillory
53:11
same here. Q3.
Marv
53:21
Our business changed from 2019 to 2020 and revenue is not down, but expenses are much higher. It is a flawed theory that 2019 should relate to 2020
nia_r
53:24
Being unable to market and consistently lower census is really hurting here in Q3
Dan Samson
53:48
Please continue to submit your questions in the Q&A box, we will share these with HHS that we aren't able to address live in the session.
Linda Lawther
55:46
it appears this session is recording. How can we make it available to others to listen to?
Tucker Fife
56:00
Nick - Is there an email we can direct questions to as well?
sarahc
58:23
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/provider-distribution-instructions.pdf
CURT FOWLER
58:27
how are we supposed to submit our questions or concerns about our particular situation?
Daniel Stiles
59:09
If we have SNF and AL how do we make sure both are on the curated list?
Rebecca Mathis
01:00:01
Do PPP funds play into this?
Landon Hackett
01:01:20
SNFs are dealing with RUGs vs PDPM issues that is skewing 2020 revenue compared to 2019. Should a SNF normalize this issue?
bstump
01:01:48
3G Operating Company, LLC
nicolefallon
01:04:50
Yes, LeadingAge is submitting lists of pending ALFs to HHS as well. You can send to nfallon@leadingage.org
Suzette Hewett
01:06:11
I just spoke to United Health /Argentum and they said that if your Tin says it's validated from Phase 2 then all you have to do is Submit the Revenues & Expenses which will be a slightly different application from Phase 2 because it asks for 2020 and 2019 Quarterly revenues/expenses etc. Then you should get the confirmation email
Glenis Zempel
01:07:28
I was told when I called the help line that the Phase 3 applications won't be awarded/approved until after the deadline of November 6. As long as I have the email saying that my application was received, we are good and just need to wait.
Glenis Zempel
01:07:45
any idea of when the funds for phase 3 will be awarded? Released?
HuMe0366
01:09:02
Will the income statements be sufficient to support/back up the revenues and expenses that we are sending in?
CURT FOWLER
01:10:50
big thanks to everyone at HHS for their help with this.
Dan Samson
01:11:38
Thank you for joining today's Q&A session. We will follow-up with the remaining questions submitted in the chat, and if you have any additional questions they may be submitted to HHSproviderfund@argentum.org.
RGeary
01:11:44
Thank you
Norma Cooper
01:11:44
Thank you ALL
Glenis Zempel
01:11:51
Thank you very much
Keith B
01:11:51
Thank you
Christyl Lange
01:11:52
thank you
Michelle Hollis
01:11:54
THANK YOU for this call!