
51:36
Hi Auriel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

51:36
Hi from W. Massachusetts!

51:48
A special shout-out to all my fellow docents. Miss you all!😘

52:13
Hi Heidi

52:20
Hello Everyone, I'm from India

52:35
Great to see everyone. Joining today from the Texas Hill Country1

53:06
hi, from Fort Worth

53:07
I’m in St. Louis today but live in Willow Park, west of Fort Worth

53:16
Hi everyone, from McKinney!

53:22
Sharon from Austin :)

53:26
im from Dallas

53:36
My pets!

53:39
Wow. Nice to see people from all over the world.

53:42
bicycle

53:42
I live in ft worth but watching from estes Park!

53:42
books and my dogs

53:42
My hands holding a book.

53:44
My African grey parrot

53:48
My curly hair

53:52
a body of water

53:52
books

53:52
A phoenix

53:53
Flowers!

53:59
my dog

54:01
a string of pearls

54:03
You know I love Estes Park, Sue!

54:04
my first though is the cat now sitting in my lap

54:06
If I’m honest, my iPhone

54:08
Walking shoes

54:08
Something theatre related

54:09
my grand children

54:09
Everything that I’ve loved, which is a lot but there could be some symbolism (:

54:10
Clorox wipes.

54:14
My 9 year old would want a table with her art supplies included

54:15
My pearl earrings

54:15
My orb and specter

54:22
Aimee LOL

54:24
LOL Retweet @ clorox wipes

54:26
scepter

54:28
freckles

54:32
I would include my white dove like Picasso

54:35
Books, water, Kizzy cat

54:38
Gloria, your orb and specter? We need to be friends.

54:44
lol

54:55
My earrings.

54:57
Water

54:58
the moon

55:02
Good one Gloria

55:03
Big chin

55:16
hat

55:28
Socks the cat

55:30
Gloria, we’ll see if Kehinde Wiley is available

55:54
Clorox wipes and scepter with orb!

56:04
To express ourselves

56:12
How we feel, in which context, historically

56:13
To connect with self and with the world

56:15
Character insight

56:16
To live forever.

56:18
capture essence of person beyond image

56:18
vanity. posterity

56:19
eye of the beholder

56:20
to create beauty

56:21
Remembrance

56:25
it's a bit of a mystery, all primates are highly motivated to view faces of others

56:25
peace of mind

56:28
so others can remember us

56:29
To remember those we love

56:30
to capture a moment in time

56:30
Proof of existence and for memory

56:33
for history, to pass down

56:36
A moment in time…

56:50
reflect on interesting faces

57:10
I should have mentioned this at the outset, this is a special treat to co-present with Auriel Garza from the Kimbell Art Musuem as she also has a McNay connection as our former Semmes Foundation Intern in Museum Studies. Welcome Auriel!

57:22
ego

57:48
the signature! Miro?

57:50
tHE CAR PICTURE

57:52
hands

57:52
YELLOW

57:55
hands

57:55
all the siggly lines

58:00
Hand

58:00
Hands!

58:02
The exuberant pattern in his suit.

58:04
Face expression

58:05
the hat

58:06
Yellow

58:07
And the pink color stands out

58:11
flat image

58:13
Dark colors except background yellow and pink in picture

58:14
smiley face button

58:28
moving fingers

58:29
Elongated hands

58:30
flat and wide

59:02
car in background

59:04
Repetition of line

59:05
dandruff everywhere!

59:06
his eyebrows

59:24
He does have fabulous eyebrows!

59:30
gaunt colors

59:32
What does he have on the left arm?

59:34
Not realistic

59:45
high contrast

59:46
pink around car, pink on the face and hands

59:46
Rosy cheeks matches the car background (?)

59:48
The yellow is more off-putting than appealing.

59:58
iconography

01:00:04
Hat is too small.

01:00:07
greens and reds on face

01:00:12
smiley face or howling face?

01:00:17
He really goes for complementary color contrasts: purple and yellow!

01:00:27
unshaven face look

01:00:34
@Darcy feels more like pleasant face

01:00:36
similarity to Picasso’s Stravinsky

01:00:38
blue tie but blue chair disappears among the suit folds and stripes

01:00:39
Easy to forget how contemporary for middle class clothing he's wearing

01:00:49
personality colors

01:01:07
Wonder if this is a celluloid color or a fabric one.

01:01:15
relaxed

01:01:18
seems posed

01:01:19
relaxed

01:01:24
He looks like he just got out of prison

01:01:29
lots of stripes - chair and yellow stripe are horizontal. Most wavy or vertical

01:01:32
I am struck by the disproportion between the different elements

01:01:32
alert but tension

01:01:33
thoughtful

01:01:33
Posturing--he's adopting an upper-class pose.

01:01:37
so relaxed

01:01:42
stoic or arrogant

01:01:42
He looks disheveled.

01:01:44
He wants to buy the Car

01:01:48
Agree with Deborah, kind of pompous?

01:01:49
What is happening under his left arm? Is that periwinkle and yellow stripe the chair? If yes, then it is really cutting into his body.

01:01:52
He looks pensive.

01:01:54
looks like he's taking it all in.

01:02:00
suit doesn't fit wee

01:02:06
Reminds me of our Kirchner

01:02:13
he has the car. He has made his goals

01:02:14
he appears to be floating, not really sitting on something,

01:02:20
Right hand looks deformed. Like he’s protecting it

01:02:39
is the car a “photograph”

01:02:39
Working class hands.

01:02:41
the way he holds his hands crossed & the squiggly lines for his hands remind me of how people hold them when they are nervous

01:02:42
Halah, the face is also reminding me of the Gleizes

01:02:46
Weird wrinkles in his pant leg. Why is it wrinkled that particular way?

01:03:00
Hands follow the lines of the suit

01:03:11
Looks like an extension of his hands.

01:03:22
He is probably crossing his leg.

01:03:26
jacket over leg, not a pant leg?

01:03:39
What’s under his arm??

01:03:43
He looks like a 1930s speakeasy liquor dealer

01:03:45
is date on bottom say 1918?

01:03:48
I've always thought this was an aspirational portrait, but the chair is a working class chair.

01:03:57
While on a school tour, a young girl observed that "his clothes are too big for him"!

01:03:58
similar to car photo

01:05:20
likely painted during the last year of WWI?

01:05:37
It’s 1918 and he’s not wearing a mask!

01:06:12
Darlene - good catch on that historical moment!

01:06:16
@Darlene, quarantine fatigure

01:06:51
Picasso influence in that self portrait maybe?

01:07:25
The shirt in the self portrait shows an awareness of cubism

01:08:35
Interesting that Kimbell portrait has black outline around body, his self-portrait had a faint light halo.

01:08:44
Van Gogh influence in the Casany portrait.

01:08:53
Literary connection… Ernest Hemingway loved Miró’s work and even owned an early landscape: “The Farm” (1920–21) now at the National Gallery, in DC.

01:09:26
The majority of these apses are now in a museum in Barcelona at MNAC!

01:09:45
Note folds in Christ's robes and technique for modeling, versus the stripes in Miro's suit pattern.

01:10:16
@Deborah, fascinating comparison!

01:11:05
looks like feathers and flowers mixed together in her hat

01:12:17
Gertrude Stein's brother said Woman with a Hat was the ugliest smear of paint he ever saw, then he bought the canvas.

01:12:49
Much greater interest in pattern and color than in character of sitter. Interesting link between medieval art and iconography and abstract art.

01:12:54
Gustave Courbet is one of my favorites!!

01:13:09
So I just realized he's not wearing a chauffeur's uniform, so possibly showing his ambition to become an artist?

01:13:13
love that Deborah--the painting definitely elicited reactions

01:14:35
Stephanie I think too and vice versa there similarities especially to Picasso later drawing of Stravinsky 1920

01:14:46
Good catch Kathy.

01:15:52
When the sculpture first came to the Kimbell, it was a different color. This two-color patina was added. I've often wondered why it was chosen.

01:15:53
I have wondered if the reference to the family’s chauffeur business is a touch ironic… given Heriberto’s artistic ambitions

01:17:03
I took my 8-year-old grandson to the Kimbell last year and just walked through the gallery. He stopped in front of this portrait and just stared at it for several minutes. He mentioned the colors as being so fascinating for him. This is a boy who’d never been to an art museum for him, but I suspect this particular portrait is one that will remain in his memory from that day. Thanks for walking us through this.

01:17:26
he appears to be wearing cufflinks

01:17:29
@Darlene, I love that!

01:17:37
Connie, I’m imagining a conversation between friends looking at Heriberto’s portrait and Miro anticipating them saying, What, no car?

01:17:42
the car picture in purple competes for attention

01:17:44
I think it's more a typical best suit, uniforms looked more stereotypical, kind of military, right?

01:18:08
What a beautiful memory, Darlene!

01:18:16
One can see comfort between artist and sitter.

01:18:31
It’s interesting to compare their relationship to more traditional patron/painter relationships

01:18:49
It will get better.

01:18:54
Finish college

01:19:01
This too shall pass.

01:19:04
experiment

01:19:12
You’re learning, it hurts, but you’ll learn and you’ll be wise next time

01:19:14
Let it go…

01:19:18
Live loud!

01:19:18
Follow our passion vs expectations

01:19:18
You are thinner than you think.

01:19:22
Travel more often

01:19:25
explore art

01:19:26
I’m only 6

01:19:31
Travel

01:19:32
Relax!

01:19:33
it's all part of the process

01:19:34
don't say anything to yourself you wouldn't say to your best friend

01:19:35
Learn from other cultures

01:19:36
Try more things

01:19:38
Don't hide your innate intelligence.

01:19:42
don’t always sacrifice the present for the future

01:19:47
learn languages

01:19:48
Don't take yourself too seriously

01:19:52
Compound interest is important $

01:19:54
hang in there - you will accomplish a lot

01:20:01
Don’t be afraid

01:20:05
Sharon is the wise one.

01:20:17
Accept your individuality.

01:20:19
Learn. Live. Play

01:20:19
be kind to yourself and you'll be kinder to others

01:20:25
cultures

01:20:31
Keep painting and doing art.

01:20:31
Enjoy your body!

01:20:53
Love liberally.

01:20:55
pursue your dreams, decide priorities, don't be jack of all interests but master of none!

01:20:58
I'm 25 for only 13 more days. This advice is resonating hard.

01:20:59
Visit more art museums! Listen to lots of different styles of music!

01:21:14
Think more deeply about your values and how to bring them forward in your day to day life

01:21:14
Good one Pam!!! Yes. Don't stop creating.

01:21:19
Happy birthday, Juan!

01:21:35
almost! @Darcy!

01:21:37
The pony tail

01:21:42
Lack of color = lack of emotion?

01:21:48
triangle usage

01:21:51
Rattan chair

01:21:52
Shapes!

01:21:53
Picasso’s take on da Vinci’s “Mona Lisa” (hand placement, body posture)

01:21:54
monochromatic

01:21:55
hands are the same as the last portrait

01:21:56
the media

01:21:58
youth

01:22:04
calm

01:22:05
Here, right hand over left.

01:22:05
Hands are crossed

01:22:05
grays and whites, little black even

01:22:07
shapes

01:22:07
Angles vs. curves

01:22:08
facing to the side

01:22:11
Huge pony tail

01:22:11
The T nose

01:22:13
the neck and collar

01:22:14
no mouth!

01:22:21
her shadow is only her face

01:22:25
no mouth

01:22:25
Reduction to geometric forms

01:22:25
this looks like some of the bentwood furniture at La Californie?

01:22:25
Her neck is so long

01:22:28
non prominent eyes

01:22:45
chair is more realistic

01:22:46
🎨 Happy Birthday, Juan!🎂

01:23:04
Looks like Judy Jetson :)

01:23:05
I love how both artists really enjoy the formal possibilities of the sitters’ outfits.

01:23:06
no mouth does this mean to keep quiet

01:23:07
Imperfect perfection. Shadows & shapes are not what is always expected. Truw to self expression.

01:23:08
very upright posture

01:23:12
Not proportional

01:23:24
neck

01:23:26
cubism

01:23:29
Her face

01:23:31
He signed it at the top

01:23:33
long neck, an old mannerist trope

01:23:33
big right hand

01:23:34
I'm cheating on this because I've seen a docent presentation on this one but she is painted looking in two directions at once.

01:23:35
Is that a Balenciaga jacket/coat?

01:23:36
her neck

01:23:39
her neck

01:23:42
We know her even though her facial features are abreviated

01:23:43
elongated neck

01:23:56
lack of mouth

01:24:01
The right hand has all the fingers shaped oddly

01:24:08
https://collection.mcnayart.org/objects/112

01:24:17
distorted hair on scalp. Odd triangles

01:24:18
Shadow of face on wall is not exactly shape of head.

01:24:20
Not a hand, is a symbol for a hand

01:24:24
the hair style looks modern

01:24:37
https://collection.mcnayart.org/objects/112

01:24:47
I loved doing this portrait in the summer institute!

01:25:36
Renee, I still have one of the reproductions on my office door!

01:25:38
Like Caricature

01:26:04
The model looks like a young Bridget Bardot.

01:26:17
She’s on a wheelchair?

01:26:30
bentwood rocker I think

01:26:40
Ah yes! A rocker

01:26:41
I think it is a wicker style rocker.

01:27:32
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79766

01:27:41
It seems like he revisited Cubism the rest of his life.

01:27:41
Les Demoiselles d'Avignon ^

01:28:12
He was “influenced” by African masks, is it not?

01:28:18
My dad loved for my mom to wear her hair in a ponytail. He would sing that song about Pony tail hanging low

01:28:31
reminds him of his youth

01:28:43
I believe during this later period of his life he was revisiting 'masters' of the past, perhaps himself included. There are a lot of pictures during this period with cubist elements...

01:28:51
@ Stephanie, yes, specifically for Les Demoiselles d'Avignon

01:29:15
where is she now

01:29:15
what is her name as an artist?

01:29:49
I think her youth reminded him of his youth as an artist, fresh feeling and rekindled a love for art and doing it.

01:30:10
Lydia Corbett is the name that Sylvette David goes by now.

01:30:43
given an opportunity, one must have the courage to accept it

01:31:08
Why did she change her name?

01:31:10
Kathy the masters of the past is interesting because the rectangle behind the sitter reminds me of the traditional window in many Renaissance portraits

01:31:13
@Renee, also could be possible to show his style of beauty as past masters had, even showing her hands in the style of “Mona Lisa” and her ponytail in the style of Vermeer’s “Girl With A Pearl Earring”

01:31:16
did she only sit for Picaso?

01:31:45
She indicated she was very quiet during the Painting — also ,, she had and made the pony tail famous before Bridget Bardo

01:32:23
BB around in 1954, I'm pretty sure. Not sure of the pony tail phase

01:33:20
Yvonne, Corbett is her married name. Sylvette is her middle name.

01:33:30
A woman in profile is not a woman with whom you are engaged. She doesn't seem to make eye contact in any of the images we've seen.

01:33:33
And the curls

01:33:50
caning in the middle one too

01:33:51
All of these different works are like the cuts in a jewel. The more cuts make the jewel more valuable. He did not carve away or subtract from the sitter, but explored different views and angles of her.

01:33:54
One of the chairs in the photo looks to be cane chair.

01:34:07
The one on the left

01:34:09
What I sher artist name? to s

01:34:09
center

01:34:11
Th one on the center, I love color

01:34:14
center

01:34:14
left

01:34:15
center

01:34:19
left

01:34:19
Left ;)

01:34:21
center

01:34:25
center- full of color and he would have to really know me to do it.

01:34:28
center

01:34:31
Depends on whether I want to be recognized.

01:34:32
centre

01:34:33
the downcast eyes give her a mysterious , introverted look.

01:34:35
I love the center one, but I would say yes to any portrait that Picasso would want to paint!

01:34:36
center

01:34:49
i love the rectangular lines he puts in

01:35:16
the one on the left is less beautiful than she is. the chin looks wrong to me.

01:36:08
tough choice, right, then try to talk him into the middle as well!

01:36:23
The portrait on the right has an odd tension between a realistic representation and a stylistic representation of the body.

01:36:38
It depends on whether you are concerned about personality or form.

01:37:11
Heavy black outlines

01:37:22
Pinched faces

01:37:29
The hands

01:37:34
hands

01:37:35
RIght hand over left in both

01:37:40
hands are on top of each other

01:37:53
lots of movement

01:37:58
Hat and pony tail

01:38:00
It would be easier to live with the portrait on the right. The chrome yellow would wear out its welcome very quickly.

01:38:10
Buttons and suit/coat

01:38:12
Looking off toward the viewer’s left (more so with Picasso than Miro), almost as if to be in a state of deep thought

01:38:12
soft vs sharp edges......I lean more towards Picasso style

01:38:13
slanted eyes

01:38:15
backgroud shapes

01:38:30
Together, the Miro looks more "normal"than it did when we started

01:38:32
I love the colors on the Miro

01:38:34
focus on fashion

01:38:38
Chair, hands, view and something behind this but one is colorful and another bnw

01:38:49
Cloisonnism

01:38:50
Again, I wonder if his is a celluloid collar rather than a fabric one.

01:38:53
though awkward, both sets of hands look like they belong

01:38:54
open cuffs, freeing the hands from the weight of the sleeves

01:39:01
Miro’s brush strokes are more controlled

01:39:09
I think their own essence comes through.

01:39:16
Sorry! Normal like portrait like

01:39:31
The hands are very similar

01:40:00
curve lines and another straight lines

01:40:10
their posture

01:40:13
she doesn’t have cllor

01:40:17
How big is the Miro? Sylvette is big.

01:40:21
The hands look like the people are comfortable with themselves

01:40:22
Obvious visible brushstrokes in both.

01:40:33
Looking at her long elegant neck and upright stance, he almost appears to slouch a bit in comparison…

01:40:58
Youth and age

01:41:17
To me the Miro is a much kinder portrait of the person.

01:41:36
Neo classic and Modernism

01:42:24
he doesn’t have a chaere

01:42:37
Miro is one of my very favorite artists, but I have never cared for his early work. But this discussion has helped. On the other hand, I don’t like Picasso’s art all that much; but I have always loved this portrait of Sylvette. So this has been a great presentation for me!

01:42:51
The more I look at her face, the more abstract it becomes…

01:42:54
Miro's portrait gives more authentic sense of the person, Picasso's is more trying to project an image not necessarily hers?

01:43:09
Solvate looks very aloof

01:43:13
Miro's ladderback chair is the sort that people would make at home for use. Picasso's Thonet bentwood chair is an example of a machine made chair

01:43:17
sylvettes right eye is more pronounced then her left

01:43:29
square eye and oval eye - like Egyptian - on Sylvette

01:43:36
Original bentwood rocker designed by August Thonet

01:43:39
Miro

01:43:47
picasso!

01:43:47
hi

01:43:57
I wonder if Miro painted subject over the background or shaded the bright color around the subject...

01:44:06
or early Picasso

01:44:18
Tough choice!!!

01:44:28
Surely Miro would be more pleasant person?

01:44:32
Picasso would make me look strangely pretty instead of strange

01:44:33
Imagine the conversations during the sittings…

01:44:33
Black and white and geometric forms are in sharp contrast to curves and colors. Her hands are more open than his.

01:44:49
Here 11.30 P.M LOL

01:44:49
THANK YALL !

01:44:55
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01:44:57
Thank you Hosts — Great sharing

01:44:58
Thanks to all!

01:45:02
Miro gives us a look at his subject’s occupation with the painting in the background

01:45:03
Kate Carey, your earrings are beautiful and you look gorgeous!

01:45:06
So enjoyable, thank you!

01:45:10
Thankyou!! :)

01:45:11
Thank you - very enlightening and lots of fun. Would love to do it again..

01:45:11
Loved these! Thank you so much for continuing them!!!

01:45:12
Great!

01:45:13
Thank you!

01:45:15
Great job, facilitators!!!

01:45:16
Thank you so much, see in diff perspective

01:45:20
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01:45:21
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01:45:21
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01:45:25
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01:45:26
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01:45:28
Amazing as always, thank you very much!

01:45:29
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01:45:30
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01:45:30
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01:45:33
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01:45:35
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01:45:42
Thank you for this opportunity!

01:45:42
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01:45:45
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01:45:59
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01:46:00
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