Labour Market Observatory Series – Webinar 4: The Future of Vocational Education and Training
- Shared screen with speaker view

10:23
Good morning and hi from sunny Suffolk

11:03
Good morning from a dull Warwickshire!

11:04
Good morning all

11:34
Good morning all! Rainy in West Yorkshire!

11:57
Everyone come to Suffolk, it’s bright sunshine

17:05
Yes I will find the link for you

22:35
Hi Mary, you can find the recordings of the previous LMO Series webinars here: https://www.aoc.co.uk/aoc-events-webinars

23:40
Hi John, you will be sent a link to access the presentation and recording on the website

38:14
Thanks Marguerite. Everyone please feel free to type in any comments or thoughts on the presentation - green recovery, automation, VET system investment, basic skills.

39:19
I'd be interested to hear from participants if they've seen a decline in participation in English and Maths for adults (pre-COVID). If there has been a decline in take up are there any particular reasons for this?

41:35
How do we feel about the speed of response of VET system in England?

42:09
Concerned about the polarisation of learners able to access online learning and those that cannot.

43:07
Why do we focus on time and not competence? Why a one, two or three year programme vs ability to apply the skills, knowledge and behaviours in a workplace?

44:29
Key will be the engagement of employers locally. This can also be an issue of mobility when young people may have desires to work across the world but the local skill provision focuses on skills needs in the immediate area.

45:01
Thank you Shinyoung for a very useful summary.

47:34
Really found the presentation useful and the OECD recommendations for VET ring true. The response required of the sector is key here - our focus is not on return to 'normal' but the curriculum of the future

53:56
Investment is needed - how does the UK compare to other European countries in this respect? For example - retraining adults currently in high carbon industries into low carbon industries can be expensive - if you want to train as a wind turbine engineer, you need access to a full size wind turbine and they cost a fair bit!

58:38
Let’s also recognise some fantastic work in the FE sector. But… would a local approach rather than a central policy encourage greater responsiveness and innovation?

58:56
To add to Shinyoung's point about Brexit and lower-skilled jobs: the UK Government's proposed new immigration system from 2021 ends freedom of movement and does not offer an option for lower-skilled employment routes for entry to the UK. The focus is very clearly on employing the existing UK workforce and automation.

59:35
It seems that literacy and numeracy gaps for adults continue to be a challenge. As well as contextualising literacy and numeracy for workplace needs, where are we/do we need to be in terms of embedding literacy and numeracy more strongly into VET subjects?

01:02:00
Agree with Rob that a move to a more place-based approach is going to be key in terms of innovation.

01:03:12
Feel that we need a national approach but also strong regionalisation - colleges already work with employers to provide development needed, we also need to consider our role in leadership for the development and future success for our regions

01:06:44
Really interesting point by Diane - what could we (FE sector) do more/better to lead rather than respond to policy?

01:08:17
A more robust approach to use of AP(E)L may help in fast-tracking especially with adult learners

01:13:31
Thank you to the panelists - really useful

01:13:38
Thank you all