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Labour Market Observatory Series – Webinar 4: The Future of Vocational Education and Training - Shared screen with speaker view
Rob Martin
10:23
Good morning and hi from sunny Suffolk
Carrie Smith
11:03
Good morning from a dull Warwickshire!
Harriet Hadley
11:04
Good morning all
Marguerite Hogg
11:34
Good morning all! Rainy in West Yorkshire!
Rob Martin
11:57
Everyone come to Suffolk, it’s bright sunshine
Harriet Hadley
17:05
Yes I will find the link for you
Harriet Hadley
22:35
Hi Mary, you can find the recordings of the previous LMO Series webinars here: https://www.aoc.co.uk/aoc-events-webinars
Harriet Hadley
23:40
Hi John, you will be sent a link to access the presentation and recording on the website
Emma Meredith
38:14
Thanks Marguerite. Everyone please feel free to type in any comments or thoughts on the presentation - green recovery, automation, VET system investment, basic skills.
Marguerite Hogg
39:19
I'd be interested to hear from participants if they've seen a decline in participation in English and Maths for adults (pre-COVID). If there has been a decline in take up are there any particular reasons for this?
Rob Martin
41:35
How do we feel about the speed of response of VET system in England?
Rob Martin
42:09
Concerned about the polarisation of learners able to access online learning and those that cannot.
Rob Martin
43:07
Why do we focus on time and not competence? Why a one, two or three year programme vs ability to apply the skills, knowledge and behaviours in a workplace?
Rob Martin
44:29
Key will be the engagement of employers locally. This can also be an issue of mobility when young people may have desires to work across the world but the local skill provision focuses on skills needs in the immediate area.
Rob Martin
45:01
Thank you Shinyoung for a very useful summary.
Diane Thurston
47:34
Really found the presentation useful and the OECD recommendations for VET ring true. The response required of the sector is key here - our focus is not on return to 'normal' but the curriculum of the future
Diane Thurston
53:56
Investment is needed - how does the UK compare to other European countries in this respect? For example - retraining adults currently in high carbon industries into low carbon industries can be expensive - if you want to train as a wind turbine engineer, you need access to a full size wind turbine and they cost a fair bit!
Rob Martin
58:38
Let’s also recognise some fantastic work in the FE sector. But… would a local approach rather than a central policy encourage greater responsiveness and innovation?
Emma Meredith
58:56
To add to Shinyoung's point about Brexit and lower-skilled jobs: the UK Government's proposed new immigration system from 2021 ends freedom of movement and does not offer an option for lower-skilled employment routes for entry to the UK. The focus is very clearly on employing the existing UK workforce and automation.
Janet Valentine
59:35
It seems that literacy and numeracy gaps for adults continue to be a challenge. As well as contextualising literacy and numeracy for workplace needs, where are we/do we need to be in terms of embedding literacy and numeracy more strongly into VET subjects?
Marguerite Hogg
01:02:00
Agree with Rob that a move to a more place-based approach is going to be key in terms of innovation.
Diane Thurston
01:03:12
Feel that we need a national approach but also strong regionalisation - colleges already work with employers to provide development needed, we also need to consider our role in leadership for the development and future success for our regions
Rob Martin
01:06:44
Really interesting point by Diane - what could we (FE sector) do more/better to lead rather than respond to policy?
Janet Valentine
01:08:17
A more robust approach to use of AP(E)L may help in fast-tracking especially with adult learners
Rob Martin
01:13:31
Thank you to the panelists - really useful
Harriet Hadley
01:13:38
Thank you all