Hello, I’m Pat Ulbrich, an independent practitioner living in Pittsburgh.

Here is the link to the Social Justice Recommendations that we will be looking at today: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing

Am refugee ,living in Lebanon and have been working on oral history for 20 years

Jasmin Temblador joining from Los Angeles California on Tongva Land

Tracy, joining from Virginia. I'm looking forward to getting the information, as I'm currently involved in an oral history project.

Hello! I am Tori. I’m in Richmond, Virginia. I’m on Powhatan land.

Tammy Clemons, Berea, KY

Sammy Sass, Boston MA - nice to be here with you all today

Marcus Chatfield, I live on Timucuan and Seminole land. Grateful for the OHA

Such an important point about translation

Also re: translation—ASL is a language! Think about language within the larger framework of access (and the many components of access)

I may lose connection soon, but I will rejoin when I get home!

Will the questions for Pre-Planning be shared?

Thanks

Here are the case studies: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_zk9G1YBvEWS6OU_OgtFhZ7GH6smqZN/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_zk9G1YBvEWS6OU_OgtFhZ7GH6smqZN/view?usp=sharing

we ❤️ faith

thanks for running all this tech!!!

Great break out, thank you Dao Tran for facilitating

Interesting——too short.

yes was short

Not all interviews being published...what are the criteria...who chooses...was my question. It could be problematic.

The purpose or goal of this project is unclear. What is your non-profit? What is the connection to the business association? Our group struggled with the fund source and with the word "complex." Is this a lens that aims to see things from all sides rather than prioritizing community needs? A social justice agenda is not apparent. A curated online map with selected stories could serve capitalist interest. Where is the mutual benefit?

An online map could potentially promote gentrification.

Love your group’s discussion Katie. The mutual benefit is a big question. Plus, does preservation at an institution consider access to those who are moving out?

Thomas brought up the incompleteness of the mention of career vs racial/ethnic groupings. These groups not necessarily incompatible or exclusive.

Great job, Tori!

Excellent job Tori!

Thank you Tori and Stephanie!

Great points. Just to add: Japanese American narrators WERE “moved out/displaced” to incarceration camps, so this topic could induce trauma. Re: language, many narrators may not speak about their experience. But their silence speaks volumes about what they’d experienced.

Oh no, we may have done the same case study as group 2. We were group 7 but thought we had case study 2

Sach, thank you for adding this important perspective

Mariana, Room 7 was Case Study 2, so you are all good

Don’t worry Mariana. The case study will be repeated by multiple groups because of our large number. Your group will have a chance to share in the next section.

Katie, agreed! Thank you for adding this as well

Oh, good good 🙃

Use the chat!

A great assessment on Case Study 2 and I agree it’s terribly fraught project, but I’m also recalling Moises Kaufman’s Laramie Project and innovative ways to present oral histories. This case study wasn’t the answer, IMHO, but I think it helps us think about products and methods.

I was also in a group that worked on Case Study 2. We appreciated the opportunity to represent multiple perspectives, but think that the politics of turning OH into theater is very complicated. Dr. Crystal Baik worked with a Korean diaspora org called Nodutol that does some OH-based theater, but the protective measures are much more robust (not the wide dispersal), and the identity politics are much different because they focus on the Korean perspectives. The project also seems to center the experiences of the undergrad students (also worried about this demographic, and that they are theater students not history students!) rather than the experiences of the narrator. We would want to see much more consideration taken for the narrators, their needs and control over their stories, general agency. Also the trauma component of the Vietnam War is substantial on all sides.

I have to sign off to attend another meeting. This has been a rich conversation and I wonder if the transcript will be available post workshop? Thanks to all.

Since truancy is (presumably) against the law, wouldn't it be unethical for the school district to do anything OTHER than attempt to take IMMEDIATE steps to return these students to school?

Patricia- Yes, the transcript will be available with the recording

The conversation also included concerns about the source of funding and what protections to put in place for undocumented children.

Case Study #2: Higher Ground (https://www.highergroundinharlan.com/) is a great series of oral-history-informed community-based theater productions dealing with various sensitive issues with music, humor, and compassion.

Thanks for the resource Tammy.

Can we have copies of the OHA - SJ Task Force revised doc - FOR REVIEW?

Being clear is a caring act

Here is the doc—https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit

Thanks!

Thank you!

Thanks for the document link.

These recommendations are also on our website, linked under the Application information section on the Fellowship/Grant webpage

Where is the "written glossary of terms" referenced in Mutual Understanding section as an attached example template?

Really enjoyed the session today. Have a few questions and not sure where and how they get answered and if the answers or still (answers) open to discussion or not. I noted that one component of eligibility is that you can’t be retired or to have disability income. While I understand the concerns. There is potential perception of age and or disability discrimination. Has this been discussed? Folks may be retired from one occupation, and poised to address a new role as an oral historian. I also want to have you consider that certain occupational groups may provide barriers to oral history interviews either by specific restrictions in the work place.. Or unspoken restrictions regarding lateral violence , workplace civility, or membership in a maligned or oppressed group. Many narratives can not provide anonymity. Retired or disabled or a status as defined may provide some unexpected protections to the ability to speak freely. Thank you for your consideration and if this criterion is flexible in any way.

Thank you so much I also have to leave but this has been a fantastic session!

Not quite sure what you mean by section 2. Is that During the Interview...?

I have to attend another meeting. Thank you so much. I will look forward to the recording.

Thank you so much for doing this! I wish I could stay—- I look forward to the recording as well!

For my breakout room, not sure how to send to room only, I’m Terri Saul, email terrisaul@gmail.com

Thanks Terri!

Thanks Nishani! still here!

Our group also didn’t understand what our task was.

Can you all share the link to the guiding doc once again?

Here is the link to the recommendations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing

@Faith what is considered the "second part"?

Sorry all- you were asked to look back at your case study in light of what was summarized in Section 2, During the Interview on the Recommendations document

got it! Thank you

Hi folks, Sorry, I need to leave the workshop to get back to other work. This has been a really good workshop, thank you so much! The most challenging part of the workshop is the 3-hour time allotment, as it is a work day for many of us. That said, I am so happy to have met some of you and learned more about OHA and the SJ task force. I look forward to getting the recording to listen to the rest.

I'm sorry, actually Before the Interview is section 2

To Fernanda Espinosa: one of the challenges now to travel to Cuba is the survelliance of the State, its gotten intense,so much that 60minutes did an expose on how Cuban activists are under extreme survelliance! Sorry for the typos.

Something that we were talking about in group 7 is that there are also cultural contexts that need to be appreciated and delineated for the narrators. The projects that are centering narrators from different cultures need to ensure that the scope/agendas of the interviews are clearly understood by the narrators before the interview and throughout the interview itself

Great point Alan!

And good point, Mariana.

Thank you all so much - I have to head off.

Thank you for putting this and the Social Justice document together! I, unfortunately, can't stay for the last hour, but I look forward to the recording.

THISSSSSS

Another Group 5 had the same comments about the timing of the open houses.

There was something that I read about professional performers or artists not being able to apply. Can you speak to that?

Those restrictions are mandated by the NEH, unfortunately

Is the rest of this workshop going to be only about the fellowship?

archives aren't always good ... they can be opportunities for extraction & trafficking in community stories ☠️ esp by powerful historically white institutions eager to do first person virtue signaling 😪😪😪

Jess- I think we'll get back to the document, they just wanted to give a chance for questions

Tracy- the Q&A session on December 8 may be a good place to ask more about that, and other eligibility requirements

Thank you Faith.

It also strikes me that it’s important to stay away from questions that ask the narrators to speak on behalf of their entire communities or families. Back to Cliff’s point about communities’ experiences not being a monolith nor being static

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Our team discussed the need to be sensitive to the terms used to describe the narrators and their community. Mexican might be preferred over LatinX; Expansive terms like Asian Americans flatten the complex array of cultural identities.

Great point, Sach. Thank you for bringing that up.

Sadly need to leave also, thanks OHA for a great first workshop, if anyone in my breakout wants to follow up on anything get in touch! tgrantrichardson@gmail.com

The importance of building relationships within communities beyond ones own. Also, as an interviewer, I need to educate myself as much as possible, and not expect my narrator to educate me about a particular group, community

Thanks to Alan Stein and Mya Ajanku on our team!

Hi all, This has been great but I need to go. Looking forward to seeing the recording, also I assume the OHA Social Justice Document is available on line.

Fred- Yes, it is linked to from the Application section of the Fellowship/Grant webpage

thanks dr. nishani, cliff, & group seven! good, real talk! have to log off in five to get a community meeting set up! yes ... in the evening 😜🙏✨ excited to continue collaborating & building solidarity with all of you, towards less extractive, actually reparative cultural work practice 👏🔥✨

Terri, oral histories can often appropriately have group interviews. My project recently interviewed a book group.

the narrator gets PAID real money 🔥🔥🔥

Rethinking Oral History and TraditionAn Indigenous PerspectiveNepia Mahuika

Hello! I came in late because I was teaching. Is the link to this document available?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit

Here is the link to the recommendations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you all! I need to jump off for a meeting.

Thank you so much! Incredible information

I also have to jump off, thank you all for this wonderful workshop and holding the space for discussion. Truly got a lot to think on here

This has been awesome. I enjoyed collaborating with my group, definitely moved. I hope we can stay in touch vnt2r@virginia.edu

2nd Jess B’s question

This has been very enjoyable and thought-provoking! Thank you all!!

Jess- we have a mentor program centered around the annual conference, and our committees are actually working to try and expand that

Interesting talk in break-outs. Katherine L., if you ever feel like bouncing things off a person, feel free to reach out! katesinger4@gmail.com

Thanks Katie! I'll drop you an email.

Thank you!

Agree!

yes the pandemic has effected alot

Perhaps entities hear the phrase "oral history" but does not consider the full process of what it is and entails. This session was a great reminder of how to maintain the ethics of what we do in our fields.

susan@jewishdesmoines.org

I’m at dtduncan@ucsc.edu, happy to talk about anything OH related

info@dontduckhistory.com

Oral History, Folklore, and Katrinahttp://www.louisianafolklife.org/LT/Articles_Essays/LFMoral.htmlOral History and Folklore related to "urgent" OH, trauma/hurricanes/disaster scholarship in relationship to this discussion. Great workshop, thank you all.

Thank you very much. I learned a lot, enjoyed meeting new fellow oral historians, and look forward to applying your suggestions and findings.

This was awesome. Thank you everyone.

Thank you!

thank you so much!

Thanks so much. This was really great. So many wonderful folks and projects as well.

ThanK you!!!

Thank you!!!

This was great. Thank you

Thank you. This was great and it was so good connecting you with all.

Please let us know where we can get the recording. Thank you so much for all you do

Thank you so much this was helpful for the grant application and thinking about important parts of my methodology

Thank you!! This has been wonderful!!

Thank you so much! Very valuable and engaging.

Thank you! It was an interesting session!

Thank you! This was excellent.

I just want to reiterate that we are having a Q&A session on December 8 for any specific questions!

Thank you so so much!

Yes, this was incredible and refreshing

Wonderful information and exchanges. Thank you!

appreciate today, much learning today

Part II??

Thanks again!

I learned so much!

Thank you… very helpful.. I found that the pandemic allowed people to speak who would not have otherwise… faced with mortality and grief… recollections were more meaningful.. good points about trauma that may come up is important advice…

Thank you!

Thank you, Faith!

Thank you so much, here it's 1.30 pm, it was so helpful and added more knowledge for me , the time passed fast,

Thank you everyone for teaching me so much. jburstrem@umbc.edu