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Patricia Ulbrich
17:38
Hello, I’m Pat Ulbrich, an independent practitioner living in Pittsburgh.
Faith Bagley
19:34
Here is the link to the Social Justice Recommendations that we will be looking at today: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing
kholoud Hussein
19:36
Am refugee ,living in Lebanon and have been working on oral history for 20 years
Jasmin Temblador
21:11
Jasmin Temblador joining from Los Angeles California on Tongva Land
Tracy Clark
22:51
Tracy, joining from Virginia. I'm looking forward to getting the information, as I'm currently involved in an oral history project.
Tori Tucker (she/her)
23:52
Hello! I am Tori. I’m in Richmond, Virginia. I’m on Powhatan land.
Tammy Clemons
25:27
Tammy Clemons, Berea, KY
Sammy Sass
27:40
Sammy Sass, Boston MA - nice to be here with you all today
Mark Chatfield
30:55
Marcus Chatfield, I live on Timucuan and Seminole land. Grateful for the OHA
Sach
38:12
Such an important point about translation
Liú Chen (they/them/theirs)
39:04
Also re: translation—ASL is a language! Think about language within the larger framework of access (and the many components of access)
Tammy Clemons
41:14
I may lose connection soon, but I will rejoin when I get home!
Sonia Arora
43:26
Will the questions for Pre-Planning be shared?
Sonia Arora
44:17
Thanks
Faith Bagley- OHA
44:30
Here are the case studies: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_zk9G1YBvEWS6OU_OgtFhZ7GH6smqZN/view?usp=sharing
Faith Bagley- OHA
45:12
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_zk9G1YBvEWS6OU_OgtFhZ7GH6smqZN/view?usp=sharing
marion voices folklife + oral history program
01:03:51
we ❤️ faith
marion voices folklife + oral history program
01:03:55
thanks for running all this tech!!!
Diana Coryat (she/her)
01:03:55
Great break out, thank you Dao Tran for facilitating
Octaviana Trujillo
01:04:03
Interesting——too short.
kholoud Hussein
01:05:07
yes was short
Tracy Clark
01:11:21
Not all interviews being published...what are the criteria...who chooses...was my question. It could be problematic.
Katie Dix
01:11:38
The purpose or goal of this project is unclear. What is your non-profit? What is the connection to the business association? Our group struggled with the fund source and with the word "complex." Is this a lens that aims to see things from all sides rather than prioritizing community needs? A social justice agenda is not apparent. A curated online map with selected stories could serve capitalist interest. Where is the mutual benefit?
Katie Dix
01:12:45
An online map could potentially promote gentrification.
Nishani Frazier
01:12:53
Love your group’s discussion Katie. The mutual benefit is a big question. Plus, does preservation at an institution consider access to those who are moving out?
Susan Jellinger she/her
01:13:32
Thomas brought up the incompleteness of the mention of career vs racial/ethnic groupings. These groups not necessarily incompatible or exclusive.
VIRGINIA ESPINO (She/Her/Ella)
01:13:41
Great job, Tori!
Stephanie Lampkin, PhD
01:13:51
Excellent job Tori!
Terri Saul (they/them)
01:13:55
Thank you Tori and Stephanie!
Sach
01:15:42
Great points. Just to add: Japanese American narrators WERE “moved out/displaced” to incarceration camps, so this topic could induce trauma. Re: language, many narrators may not speak about their experience. But their silence speaks volumes about what they’d experienced.
Mariana Barros-Titus
01:16:10
Oh no, we may have done the same case study as group 2. We were group 7 but thought we had case study 2
Tori Tucker (she/her)
01:16:44
Sach, thank you for adding this important perspective
Faith Bagley- OHA
01:17:05
Mariana, Room 7 was Case Study 2, so you are all good
Nishani Frazier
01:17:22
Don’t worry Mariana. The case study will be repeated by multiple groups because of our large number. Your group will have a chance to share in the next section.
Tori Tucker (she/her)
01:17:31
Katie, agreed! Thank you for adding this as well
Mariana Barros-Titus
01:19:48
Oh, good good 🙃
Katie Dix
01:21:53
Use the chat!
Thomas Richardson
01:23:27
A great assessment on Case Study 2 and I agree it’s terribly fraught project, but I’m also recalling Moises Kaufman’s Laramie Project and innovative ways to present oral histories. This case study wasn’t the answer, IMHO, but I think it helps us think about products and methods.
Liú Chen (they/them/theirs)
01:27:24
I was also in a group that worked on Case Study 2. We appreciated the opportunity to represent multiple perspectives, but think that the politics of turning OH into theater is very complicated. Dr. Crystal Baik worked with a Korean diaspora org called Nodutol that does some OH-based theater, but the protective measures are much more robust (not the wide dispersal), and the identity politics are much different because they focus on the Korean perspectives. The project also seems to center the experiences of the undergrad students (also worried about this demographic, and that they are theater students not history students!) rather than the experiences of the narrator. We would want to see much more consideration taken for the narrators, their needs and control over their stories, general agency. Also the trauma component of the Vietnam War is substantial on all sides.
Patricia Ulbrich
01:27:52
I have to sign off to attend another meeting. This has been a rich conversation and I wonder if the transcript will be available post workshop? Thanks to all.
Helen Foster
01:28:21
Since truancy is (presumably) against the law, wouldn't it be unethical for the school district to do anything OTHER than attempt to take IMMEDIATE steps to return these students to school?
Faith Bagley- OHA
01:28:25
Patricia- Yes, the transcript will be available with the recording
Nishani Frazier
01:28:35
The conversation also included concerns about the source of funding and what protections to put in place for undocumented children.
Tammy Clemons
01:29:13
Case Study #2: Higher Ground (https://www.highergroundinharlan.com/) is a great series of oral-history-informed community-based theater productions dealing with various sensitive issues with music, humor, and compassion.
Stephanie Lampkin, PhD
01:29:49
Thanks for the resource Tammy.
P. QUICK HALL
01:33:36
Can we have copies of the OHA - SJ Task Force revised doc - FOR REVIEW?
Katie Dix
01:33:53
Being clear is a caring act
Liú Chen (they/them/theirs)
01:34:12
Here is the doc—https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit
Cliff Mayotte (he/him)
01:34:35
Thanks!
P. QUICK HALL
01:34:49
Thank you!
Tracy Clark
01:35:02
Thanks for the document link.
Faith Bagley- OHA
01:35:04
These recommendations are also on our website, linked under the Application information section on the Fellowship/Grant webpage
Helen Foster
01:37:55
Where is the "written glossary of terms" referenced in Mutual Understanding section as an attached example template?
Jackie Lois
01:38:15
Really enjoyed the session today. Have a few questions and not sure where and how they get answered and if the answers or still (answers) open to discussion or not. I noted that one component of eligibility is that you can’t be retired or to have disability income. While I understand the concerns. There is potential perception of age and or disability discrimination. Has this been discussed? Folks may be retired from one occupation, and poised to address a new role as an oral historian. I also want to have you consider that certain occupational groups may provide barriers to oral history interviews either by specific restrictions in the work place.. Or unspoken restrictions regarding lateral violence , workplace civility, or membership in a maligned or oppressed group. Many narratives can not provide anonymity. Retired or disabled or a status as defined may provide some unexpected protections to the ability to speak freely. Thank you for your consideration and if this criterion is flexible in any way.
Stephanie Arnold
01:45:08
Thank you so much I also have to leave but this has been a fantastic session!
Susan Jellinger she/her
01:45:20
Not quite sure what you mean by section 2. Is that During the Interview...?
Sarahy Plazola (she/her/ella)
01:45:42
I have to attend another meeting. Thank you so much. I will look forward to the recording.
shantel
01:46:02
Thank you so much for doing this! I wish I could stay—- I look forward to the recording as well!
Terri Saul (they/them)
02:01:26
For my breakout room, not sure how to send to room only, I’m Terri Saul, email terrisaul@gmail.com
Stephanie Lampkin, PhD
02:01:40
Thanks Terri!
Asahda Shavaja
02:02:51
Thanks Nishani! still here!
Diana Coryat (she/her)
02:03:00
Our group also didn’t understand what our task was.
Mariana Barros-Titus
02:03:09
Can you all share the link to the guiding doc once again?
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:04:23
Here is the link to the recommendations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing
Katina Castillo She/Her/Ella
02:04:58
@Faith what is considered the "second part"?
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:05:38
Sorry all- you were asked to look back at your case study in light of what was summarized in Section 2, During the Interview on the Recommendations document
Katina Castillo She/Her/Ella
02:06:17
got it! Thank you
Diana Coryat (she/her)
02:07:07
Hi folks, Sorry, I need to leave the workshop to get back to other work. This has been a really good workshop, thank you so much! The most challenging part of the workshop is the 3-hour time allotment, as it is a work day for many of us. That said, I am so happy to have met some of you and learned more about OHA and the SJ task force. I look forward to getting the recording to listen to the rest.
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:07:08
I'm sorry, actually Before the Interview is section 2
Alan H. Stein
02:09:58
To Fernanda Espinosa: one of the challenges now to travel to Cuba is the survelliance of the State, its gotten intense,so much that 60minutes did an expose on how Cuban activists are under extreme survelliance! Sorry for the typos.
Mariana Barros-Titus
02:10:25
Something that we were talking about in group 7 is that there are also cultural contexts that need to be appreciated and delineated for the narrators. The projects that are centering narrators from different cultures need to ensure that the scope/agendas of the interviews are clearly understood by the narrators before the interview and throughout the interview itself
Nishani Frazier
02:10:32
Great point Alan!
Nishani Frazier
02:11:25
And good point, Mariana.
LORALI MOSSAVER-RAHMANI
02:13:59
Thank you all so much - I have to head off.
Fernanda Espinosa
02:14:17
Thank you for putting this and the Social Justice document together! I, unfortunately, can't stay for the last hour, but I look forward to the recording.
marion voices folklife + oral history program
02:15:37
THISSSSSS
Helen Foster
02:15:40
Another Group 5 had the same comments about the timing of the open houses.
Tracy Clark
02:17:51
There was something that I read about professional performers or artists not being able to apply. Can you speak to that?
Dao Tran (she/her)
02:18:23
Those restrictions are mandated by the NEH, unfortunately
Jess B
02:18:36
Is the rest of this workshop going to be only about the fellowship?
marion voices folklife + oral history program
02:18:55
archives aren't always good ... they can be opportunities for extraction & trafficking in community stories ☠️ esp by powerful historically white institutions eager to do first person virtue signaling 😪😪😪
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:19:23
Jess- I think we'll get back to the document, they just wanted to give a chance for questions
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:20:27
Tracy- the Q&A session on December 8 may be a good place to ask more about that, and other eligibility requirements
Tracy Clark
02:21:37
Thank you Faith.
Mariana Barros-Titus
02:22:04
It also strikes me that it’s important to stay away from questions that ask the narrators to speak on behalf of their entire communities or families. Back to Cliff’s point about communities’ experiences not being a monolith nor being static
marion voices folklife + oral history program
02:23:10
👏👏👏
Sach
02:23:16
Our team discussed the need to be sensitive to the terms used to describe the narrators and their community. Mexican might be preferred over LatinX; Expansive terms like Asian Americans flatten the complex array of cultural identities.
Kelci Hopp
02:24:07
Great point, Sach. Thank you for bringing that up.
Thomas Richardson (he/him)
02:24:14
Sadly need to leave also, thanks OHA for a great first workshop, if anyone in my breakout wants to follow up on anything get in touch! tgrantrichardson@gmail.com
Susan Jellinger she/her
02:25:25
The importance of building relationships within communities beyond ones own. Also, as an interviewer, I need to educate myself as much as possible, and not expect my narrator to educate me about a particular group, community
Sach
02:25:26
Thanks to Alan Stein and Mya Ajanku on our team!
Fred Pelka
02:26:35
Hi all, This has been great but I need to go. Looking forward to seeing the recording, also I assume the OHA Social Justice Document is available on line.
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:27:25
Fred- Yes, it is linked to from the Application section of the Fellowship/Grant webpage
marion voices folklife + oral history program
02:30:53
thanks dr. nishani, cliff, & group seven! good, real talk! have to log off in five to get a community meeting set up! yes ... in the evening 😜🙏✨ excited to continue collaborating & building solidarity with all of you, towards less extractive, actually reparative cultural work practice 👏🔥✨
Susan Jellinger she/her
02:31:48
Terri, oral histories can often appropriately have group interviews. My project recently interviewed a book group.
marion voices folklife + oral history program
02:32:06
the narrator gets PAID real money 🔥🔥🔥
Nishani Frazier
02:32:56
Rethinking Oral History and TraditionAn Indigenous PerspectiveNepia Mahuika
Tammy iPhone
02:40:53
Hello! I came in late because I was teaching. Is the link to this document available?
Sophia Nelson
02:41:42
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:41:57
Here is the link to the recommendations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbZCuLK-KOkspEo5ek7-X6bFRjDpVUd9hznbKe_ZAh0/edit?usp=sharing
Jedediah Rogers
02:43:16
Thank you all! I need to jump off for a meeting.
Tammy iPhone
02:43:24
Thank you so much! Incredible information
Mariana Barros-Titus
02:43:54
I also have to jump off, thank you all for this wonderful workshop and holding the space for discussion. Truly got a lot to think on here
Tori Tucker (she/her)
02:56:32
This has been awesome. I enjoyed collaborating with my group, definitely moved. I hope we can stay in touch vnt2r@virginia.edu
Terri Saul (they/them)
02:56:53
2nd Jess B’s question
Craig A. Campbell
02:57:03
This has been very enjoyable and thought-provoking! Thank you all!!
Faith Bagley- OHA
02:57:16
Jess- we have a mentor program centered around the annual conference, and our committees are actually working to try and expand that
Katie Singer
02:58:00
Interesting talk in break-outs. Katherine L., if you ever feel like bouncing things off a person, feel free to reach out! katesinger4@gmail.com
Katherine L (She/Hers)
02:58:16
Thanks Katie! I'll drop you an email.
Jess B
02:58:34
Thank you!
cameron
03:00:50
Agree!
kholoud Hussein
03:04:08
yes the pandemic has effected alot
ZaDonna Slay
03:04:23
Perhaps entities hear the phrase "oral history" but does not consider the full process of what it is and entails. This session was a great reminder of how to maintain the ethics of what we do in our fields.
Susan Jellinger she/her
03:07:00
susan@jewishdesmoines.org
David Duncan
03:07:19
I’m at dtduncan@ucsc.edu, happy to talk about anything OH related
Tracy Clark
03:07:20
info@dontduckhistory.com
Alan H. Stein
03:08:16
Oral History, Folklore, and Katrinahttp://www.louisianafolklife.org/LT/Articles_Essays/LFMoral.htmlOral History and Folklore related to "urgent" OH, trauma/hurricanes/disaster scholarship in relationship to this discussion. Great workshop, thank you all.
Sach
03:08:33
Thank you very much. I learned a lot, enjoyed meeting new fellow oral historians, and look forward to applying your suggestions and findings.
Melissa Fisher
03:08:33
This was awesome. Thank you everyone.
Katherine L (She/Hers)
03:08:36
Thank you!
Holly Werner-Thomas
03:08:45
thank you so much!
Alexi Lacey
03:08:46
Thanks so much. This was really great. So many wonderful folks and projects as well.
Helen Foster
03:08:47
ThanK you!!!
Terri Saul (they/them)
03:08:48
Thank you!!!
Mya Ajanku
03:08:53
This was great. Thank you
Katie Dix
03:08:56
Thank you. This was great and it was so good connecting you with all.
Sonia Arora
03:08:56
Please let us know where we can get the recording. Thank you so much for all you do
David Duncan
03:08:57
Thank you so much this was helpful for the grant application and thinking about important parts of my methodology
Rachel Elise Greiner
03:09:07
Thank you!! This has been wonderful!!
Sophia Nelson
03:09:13
Thank you so much! Very valuable and engaging.
cameron
03:09:18
Thank you! It was an interesting session!
Stephanie Lampkin, PhD
03:09:21
Thank you! This was excellent.
Faith Bagley- OHA
03:09:23
I just want to reiterate that we are having a Q&A session on December 8 for any specific questions!
Billie (they/them)
03:09:24
Thank you so so much!
Tori Tucker (she/her)
03:09:25
Yes, this was incredible and refreshing
Tracy Clark
03:09:27
Wonderful information and exchanges. Thank you!
Susan Jellinger she/her
03:09:27
appreciate today, much learning today
Tori Tucker (she/her)
03:09:30
Part II??
Craig A. Campbell
03:09:34
Thanks again!
Terri Saul (they/them)
03:09:36
I learned so much!
Jackie Lois
03:09:53
Thank you… very helpful.. I found that the pandemic allowed people to speak who would not have otherwise… faced with mortality and grief… recollections were more meaningful.. good points about trauma that may come up is important advice…
Kelci Hopp
03:09:58
Thank you!
Katie Dix
03:10:05
Thank you, Faith!
kholoud Hussein
03:10:08
Thank you so much, here it's 1.30 pm, it was so helpful and added more knowledge for me , the time passed fast,
Jess B
03:10:18
Thank you everyone for teaching me so much. jburstrem@umbc.edu