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Eylon Aviv
19:30
The Metric of gas paying users is what we are looking at correct?
Eric Arsenault
20:20
# DAOs, # users, $ treasuries, gas paying users
Felipe Duarte
20:35
Why is # DAOs actually relevant?
Felipe Duarte
20:44
(Look at aragon)
Matan Field
21:28
Yes, many different metrics *are* valuable, GEN-staking, but also gas-paying users, as well as non-gas paying users, number/frequency of proposals, treasury managed, etc
Eric Arsenault
21:28
# DAOs in isolation is useless
Eric Arsenault
21:37
that's why # users, $ treasury are there
Felipe Duarte
21:50
# of DAOs is a perfect example of a vanity metric
Felipe Duarte
22:01
Reputation Holders too
Kate Beecroft
22:21
was the question: what is the downside of not going into debt?
Eylon Aviv
22:22
Agreed Felipe
Eric Arsenault
22:31
It is an indicator that we are building out a DAO ecosystem
Felipe Duarte
22:51
Not going into to Debt means No money = No creativity
Eylon Aviv
23:02
Gas paying tx/day is a bit better but I don’t think it’s precise enough
Kate Beecroft
23:44
Thanks a lot for taking notes Livia! Can anyone help?
Kate Beecroft
23:50
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OKU24bqttUmlvC7Ql0Mm6OQk-XIbsJehyqJu_IS5A7Q/edit##
Felipe Duarte
23:53
I’ve been long proposed that the main KPI should be # of returning proposers per level of returning: How many people propose 2x, 3x, 5x 100x - we are gonna change the world when this is a flat line
Eric Arsenault
24:21
I agree, this is important
Felipe Duarte
25:11
This is a holistic KPI that if focused on will drag the whole game along - Composed KPIs that require one action of measurement (measurement is expensive) are what I think we should look for
Felipe Duarte
26:33
Bringing the DAO into debt (and showing the debt) Gives proposers that are waiting for funds skin in the game to go find funds for the DAO btw
Felipe Duarte
26:49
A group of people waiting for funds could emerge into a fund raising unit etc
Kate Beecroft
28:53
Hi Lumi and Oleksandr! I didn't see that you had joined
Kate Beecroft
29:13
We're currently going into the Objectives of the Genesis DAO
Felipe Duarte
29:30
Another added bonus is: By giving visibility to projects that are on the funding pipeline allows the community to actually rally around them and help Them be BETTER since they are gonna get funds anyway.
Felipe Duarte
29:52
hmm the more I think about it the more I like a DAO with debt :/
Kate Beecroft
32:39
Hi Benoit - do you need context on what we're doing?
Eylon Aviv
33:02
Gil are you aware of any investor model with DAO that works?
Eric Arsenault
35:24
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iC_4EzFySfEpJOAvNkqbiScbPYQk65GSRihYr7gYmU8/edit?usp=sharing
Oleksandr Voskolovych
38:38
Hi! I've just found this resource while looking for the resource of tasks for my team of beginner programmers, and I found this resource pretty interesting to discover, but it seems too complicated for the begginers. I had couple minutes and I decided to come here with hope to find some clues what is this projects and how it works.
Eric Arsenault
39:14
maybe # of proposers is the high level > and sub level is # DAOs, # users, # treasury
Felipe Duarte
39:23
Returning proposers :P
Eric Arsenault
39:24
I would agree with that
Eric Arsenault
39:29
yup
Felipe Duarte
39:31
returning is key
Felipe Duarte
39:45
I would just love if we visualised it somewhere
Kate Beecroft
40:11
Cool Oleksandr - it might be better to have an onboarding call - I agree that this call is quite complex
Felipe Duarte
40:49
veteranability
Felipe Duarte
41:11
This would have big bizz dev consequences
Matan Field
42:27
Thanks guys for the great discussion, have to drop off to another call.
Kate Beecroft
42:36
thanks Matan
Eric Arsenault
46:36
DAO Meetup in Barcelona (Oct 2019):https://alchemy.daostack.io/dao/0x294f999356ed03347c7a23bcbcf8d33fa41dc830/proposal/0x71467c86199922db521bd35433231d41798d0cf57ba9215d5d387125e7087591DAO’s Mind: https://alchemy.daostack.io/dao/0x294f999356ed03347c7a23bcbcf8d33fa41dc830/proposal/0xcbdc3612e6d73cb47cdb4c44e1db18213eb0cf8c17f4870b8beca33cffbd7d3fLet’s not get #rekt - Workshop + documentation-driven Study Group https://alchemy.daostack.io/dao/0x294f999356ed03347c7a23bcbcf8d33fa41dc830/proposal/0x510b945aa11c67387a8aca461415ecc089610f0aafdf4ea515f3ade3f4dc0191
Felipe Duarte
47:05
Im gonna drop off too guys! Thx for the great call, one of the most engaging ever for me!