THE TV MINDSET: RACISM IN TV & how to combat the culture - Shared screen with gallery view
I have been working in comedy entertainment development and production (skewed to comedy) for 10 years and I can think of only one Black creative I’ve worked with, once. Shocking
That is a brilliant, honest contribution Teeyana which h the industry needs to hear
Thankyou for sharing Teeyana
Don't leave the industry!
Solidarity Teeyana. Thanks for sharing your story.
Agreed. Thank you Teeyana. What field do you work in?
Thank you for sharing Teeyana
Thank you for sharing Teeyana. A brave contribution. Definitely don’t leave please x
Much respect to you Teeyana, this industry needs you. Thank you so much for sharing x
Thank you for sharing Teeyana - what you said needs to be heard
Thank you for sharing Teeyana, that must not have been easy, but I really appreciate what you have shared with us today. Ut needs to be heard. I am sorry for what you have suffered. Please don’t leave x
That’s such an interesting point, Adeel, about talking about mental health first and race/sexuality/religion/regional second…
Julie Ann Lough
I came from academia before going to TV. Academia has it's own problems but at least I had colleagues of lots of different backgrounds. I find it so strange when I look around a TV office when I work and there is so little diversity. I'm a white immigrant in this country and as someone looking in it is amazing all the people who don't realise the subtle racism every day in the UK. The amount of times people complain about "immigrants" and when I point out I am one, I'm hit with "oh you don't count..." because people don't view me as one because I'm white. White people here need to call all that out. As said.... there is no balance in racism. much love to everyone sharing their stories.
It’s also incredibly problematic making an official report or complaint as a freelancer. You worry you’ll be frozen out or identified as undesirable employment wise.
Very good point
On top of directly hiring BAME talent in top roles, would job-sharing ALL roles (with a specific mandate to welcome in BAME freelancers) start to approach fixing the divide?
I personally dont fill out the Diamond form. People have said I should but I feel like its an easy way for companies to act like they are diverse. Its more than just a form, maybe i should fill it out but i feel very anti about it
30 years ago (gulp!) I was in-house BBC Docs dept and part of a new Equality Opportunities Committee. We got the BBC to set up and run their Trainee AP scheme (essentially for directors) for women and for PoC. They ran them once (possibly twice) and then stopped. Just think how different the TV landscape would have been if the BBC had continued to support these schemes. Too many missed opportunities.....
Well spoken all of you. Thank you for your honesty & power @Teeyana. @Nacheal Larelle - Thank you for this incredible clarity and composure. Very powerful. Adeel Amini - Fire. I can hear the rusty wheels of the industry being cranked into movement. Keep going calling this stuff out. Great panel.
I remember when I went for audition then they have given me the script on that day. I’ve read and realised they are looking for white deaf actress because the story was about a small village in Wales where no colour of people there. I am thinking why did they picked me up for this. After for a while, I realised they want show the diversity so they use me as colour and deaf person to tick on their list.
I have always felt that the TV industry requires programme makers to have the ability to walk in someone else’s shoes and help them to tell their story. But as an industry it fails to extend the same courtesy to those working within the industry.
Thanks Nadia - These are powerful and a scope for us to learn, we cannot empathise as we will never be able to understand. It’s time for us to focus on the issues and learn from them but also to steer away from tokenism. There are so many layers to unravel and learn from each of these. Hugs x
Hugs Ramon x
Nacheal - thanks so much for sharing! Sending love xx
Very well said Nachael lots of love to you x
Thanks Nachael x
Thank you Nachael
Thank you all for your stories. I feel like I have an awful lot to learn but I really want to.
Thank you Nachael x
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Ethnicity pay gap
If business is what motivates you - The failure to fulfil the potential of the Black, Asian and ethnic minority talent in the workforce costs the British economy £34billion/year and 1.3% GDP (Gov commissioned McGregor-Smith Review)
This is all VERY Powerful, Thank you Elaine x
100%! If companies publish data on this then for freelancers looking for work we will have a better idea of what companies actually care about having diverse teams to make tv for all audiences
this is so exceptional. thank you to all the panelists.
Yes, Elaine. Something that concerns me is that black creatives becoming an accessory for white voices on black matters. This is not uncommon. Inclusivity is fundamental. Hypervisbility is one of the most oppressive forms invisibility, to be seen and not heard. Now is the time to listen and learn, but not solely rely on existing staff to be the face of your call for action.
A colleague of mine at a job asked to create a POC group, they were shut down by white bosses. Who said it was racist and “we wouldn’t be allowed to have a white people only group” - shocking and disgusting. This happened in 2017
Highly recommend the podcast “About Race” by Reno Eddo-Lodge. Really powerful and informative. She also talks a lot about the lack of diversity in the media and complete refusal of any commissioners to talk to her/be held accountable.
*Reni Eddo-Lodge (autocorrect, sorry!)
THANK YOU ELAINE. I HOPE THERE ARE LEADERS LISTENING
Good informative Elaine
Love it Elaine, so many great points
Julie Ann Lough
thanks everyone, it is so important we listen. Thank you for sharing your views
Brilliant Elaine, thank you so much
Thanks to the interpreters for today…Om and Sharan
Julie Ann Lough
That was brilliant Elaine thank you
Yes Ramon! Thanks interpreters to do this webinar.
Thank you to everyone in this chat providing further ways to learn and research. Thank you to all the Panelists who have opened my eyes to the industry
*opened my eyes to their experiences within the industry
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. It’s been incredibly sobering
Thanks everyone and for the captions.
I think that point about cross-broadcaster (and cross-indie!) collaboration being key is SO important. My experience of D&I networks and D£I strategy so far has largely been tinged with a really odd sense of competitiveness and benchmarking - “other companies are not doing this so that’s good as we can show we are ahead of the game/other companies are doing this thing therefore that is the only reason we should look into it - to keep up/save face”. I think this is just another form of performative allyship. we should be working together to effect systemic change. not trying to score points on other people’s trauma.
Schemes are often a way for broadcasters and indies to give themselves a pat on the back and their only means of dealing with the diversity deficit. Additionally schemes require follow up, you can’t just have people on schemes and then toss them out once it’s over. That’s how talent gets lost and falls through the gaps.
This is the problem - over the years there have been a plethora of schemes, initiatives, networking events but we are still in this situation which excludes so many. Time for the industry to be compelled to make change perhaps through financial imperatives which is a language they will understand.
I started on Creative Access, it was a good way through the door (for me), but it is problematic because of tokenism. I have almost always been the token ethnic minority in every development team I’ve worked at - development is especially bad for diversity IMO. We need more diversity at the top for those entry level schemes to make any difference.
Also check out Olive Morris whose efforts resulted in Squatters Rights being inserted in births law (1970’s)
I'm surprised at how many of my black colleagues have come through diversity schemes. I didn't it's made me feel 'different' in itself. Its scary, it wasn't until recently I realised this. Just that process alone I think also ties individuals to their mentors, it's then like you owe your career to someone, why are so many poc being asked to use the side door why are so few of us coming in through the front?
So, so true
So true - my gosh
This is bang on the mark
The ‘Home Counties village voice’ - obliterating everything else.
And now the 3rd channel has 7 channels
The only way is Essex has about 7 spin offs - WTF
They'll say they don't know anything about your culture. ask your advice, not bother to let you see an edit and then not follow the advice it anyway
if we were fully diverse we wouldn’t need to think about how to “appear more diverse” - the keeping up with the jones’s between companies and channels is drowning out the genuine voices and needs of the whole industry
And none of the C4 commissioners were prepared to move, properly move, to Leeds
We only need to look at the language used surrounding the appointment of the new BBC Director General… “A Safe Pair of Hands” was quoted in pretty much every single article. The 17th DG and the 17th white, middle class man. Essentially enforcing the narrative that anyone other than a white, middle class man is a ‘risk’ to hire.
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this is incredible truths
T R U T H…
Irshad has basically described every job I ever get offered!
If anyone would like a resource on Anti-Black racism in England then please email me. I have compiled statistical research into inequalities in England (justice, education, employment, GB colonial history etc) with sources, and a starting point/intro to ‘doing the work’. Useful for anyone still uncertain, or who would like some evidence to hand re: the specific situation in this country right now. I’d be happy to share firstname.lastname@example.org Thank you to all the panellists.
YES I love the honesty, the public honesty. Moving out of the private conversation. This panel is amazing!
so so spot on Irshad
Julie Ann Lough
👏 yes, this has all been brilliant! there is no counter argument to racism! we all have a role to play in calling it out. brilliant!
Irshad, I’m glad to hear your words! To say that it was more diverse years ago and it’s so much worse now speaks volumes!
this has been amazing - thank you to all panelists!
Thank you! This is a brilliant panel!!! x
Never explain your emotions, that in itself is a product of racism
👏👏👏 amazing panel, thank you so much to all panelists
Thank you all so much! This has been amazing to watch xx
fantastic panel, thank you so much for all your viewpoints and experiences!
Fantastic. Thank you!
This has been really brilliant - honest and powerful, and important suggestions for action and change. Thanks you all so much xx
DOWN WITH NEPOTISM!
Nepotism HAS TO CHANGE
the “someones niece” promotion is the truth
thank you all for your honesty, transparency and strong accounts of your experiences x
Great points Teeyana
Thank you all for your honesty and for sharing your experiences with us, I know it cannot have been easy. So I’m really appreciative of you all.
Wonderful webinar! Thank you all!
Your nurtured for the length of your contract...
Nepotism must be called out so loudly
Yes, nepotism is rife, this absolutely needs to be tackled. And lets not forget this is about class too
Amazing points Teeyana!
Thank you, this has been really great chat. Appreciate you all taking the time for this xx
Absolutely incredible session and panel, so many truths. Thank you x
Thankyou to all panelists. This has been so informative and I applaud your honesty
This was so brilliant - thank you for sharing with us.
Do not go!
Thank you everyone, this has been incredibly helpful and informative
Stay, Teeyana! Can’t wait to see you in the industry soon!
Stay Teeyana! Be the voice in the industry! You are amazing
Thanks so much to all of you. We really need change.
We haven’t had shows like the Real McCoy since it stopped
New narratives need to be pushed to the forefront
Absolutely!!! Industry needs to stop putting us in the place of the victim in history, and show us our power and pride! xx
I can’t pitch 10 programmes right now..its not hard
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and stories this morning and for your advice, guidance, and, quite rightly, demands. So long as we have such views and e take action there is home. Recognising intersectionality is critical - range of privilege needs discussing. Thank you for the honesty.
Nacheal you will be a great commissioner one day
you were all amazing, thank you so much!
Thank you so much for your honest and sobering insights - the whole industry needs to hear them!!
One thing I’ve noticed working in TV for the last 10 years there seems to be a particular lack of diverse team members in History programming. Surely this is massively damaging
Thank you so much to the panel for your time and for sharing stories that are clearly terribly difficult to share. Pushing myself to be a better ally going forwards
Thank you all so much
Thank you everyone!!
Amazing and powerful panel. Thank you so much - amazing to hears stories from people who look like me!
Thank you everyone
Thank you so much
Thank you all so much for giving up your time today, and for sharing your personal experiences with us all and for your honesty. I deeply hope this is a time of real, genuine change. And Teeyana please do not leave x
Thank you all for taking the time for share your experiences and organising this session.
Thank you EVERYONE
Huge respect to you all, thank you x
Thank you all xxx
This has been fantastic!!!!!!
Thank you all for a great panel today and for sharing your stories and insight with us all.
thanks to all the panel!
Thank you all!!
Thank you thank you thank you!
thank you so much everyone
This was great..Thank you..
Thank you ! This has been amazing.
THANK YOU ALL!
thank you so much
Thank you all so much, this panel has been amazing.
This was brilliant, thanks you so much!
Thanks everyone - such a good panel. Thank you all!
Thank you so so soo incredibly much for your shares!
Thank you!!!!! more conversations like this.. sending love x
Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you all so so much! I love hearing your voices. Take care of yourselves during this time. And hope to meet you all again in the industry! Please don’t leave, I look forward to meeting you all!
thanks everyone - this was great 👏🏾.
Thank you all for this! Appreciate the emotional labour that has gone in for sharing this stuff.
I promise to always speak up. Such a powerful panel - THANK YOU
Will this recording be available going forward? I can think of so many people who need to hear this.
can we have another webinar at some point again please!
THANK YOU TO ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HONESTY.
Humbled - I hope to meet you all in person one day
Thank you everyone for holding this!
Ben Hansen Hicks
Thanks to everyone for this panel. I don’t have much but would love to contribute to you Adeel, this is really really meaningful work!
Can we have your paypal Adeel?
I will contribute to keep this conversation going
Thank you Adeel!
Well said Elaine xx
Wow….thank you so much Adeel for booking captions and interpreters
More than happy to contribute
This session means so much, thank you to all the panelist!!
Lets set up a GoFundMe!!!
Adele how can we donate? Time/energy/funds?
Thank you to Adeel and the rest of the panel.
Thank you all for your time, honesty and sharing your experiences. A very powerful panel! Time for change. X
Thank you Adeel
Julie Ann Lough
wow! Adeel, how can we help you?
Adele, you are amazing! I’m sure lots of people will be happy to donate, please set something up x
Off to continue doing the work……
Yes, thank-you Adeel, I always love your open, accessible webinars. Every single one I attend I learn something new. You’re doing that hard work that I’m privileged to participate!
We want to help Adeel - happy to be part of this community
This is such a valuable platform it deserves funding!!!!
Thank you Adeel for also creating the TV Mindset platform!!
Proud to be a woman of colour! BLM!!