This is a great story. It really reflects the geographic diversity and differences among LC identified peoples
Such a great pot, Bliss especially given the recent revelations about professors and activists pretending to be Black…it makes it very hard for “white passing” folks to identify as Black or mixed-race
this touches on the idea that identity is more than how we personally identify, but also how the state identifies us.
and of course, as we saw once Louisiana became part of the US, identify can certainly change virtually overnight.
Rose Glapion was my cousin.
That’s a fantastic point, Bailey
I think it relates to “passing” in general. Using “passing” reinscribes the idea that race is fixed, primordial, and essential
I like this exchange because it also takes away the assumption that white passing means you have it easier or automatically privileged when many folks like Bliss’ dad and other Creoles who appear white still suffered due to the conditions of being Black people
It reminds me also of my own family. Like my dad in high school ran home because other Black students had a day called, “Grey neck day” where they beat up white kids even though he mainly self-identified as Black and this was in San Francisco
Situational and contextual ethnicity
Human here! Ici <3 Thanks JQ
a Creole category affirms the complexity of Creole peoplehood and Creole identities
Because it would challenge notions of race as essential and primordial it would challenged the limited notions of Blackness
I’ve been to many Creole presentations and I must say this is a phenomenal panel. Excellent job. Thank you also so much. Hiwew/Mesi/Gracias to all of you for this amazing discussion
New Orleans Creoles are different though lol…my bias my family is from southwest, LA with NOLA connections further back
I feel like Creole diaspora folks sometimes maintained more Creole culture than those back home similar to many immigrant groups.
For example Los Angeles, Chicago, and SF/Oakland Bay Area Creoles maintain Creole traditions that some in Louisiana don’t engage as much anymore
From where does the definition of creole as “mixture” from? That seems very anglo-American.
They need to define who is white just like we need to identify who is Black, Creole etc
since no human is “pure” can then anyone claim creole from this definition?
@Brad no. it has specific geographic, linguistic, and culture roots
I agree with that, Andrew. But then the definition has to remain beyond notions of race.
Oh I agree. Its an ethnic marker for me…meaning cultural not a social construct
if it those things as you say (and I agree that it is), then non-mixed people fall into that ethnicity. one of the presenters mentioned Creole means “mixed” so that threw me a bit
Dr. Wendy Gaudin
“Mixed” within very specific historical contexts, I believe she meant.
They said that’s how its used today mostly
They acknowledged that it has been used first as Europeans born in the Americas and then for mixed people and that today its contextually used mostly to refer to mixed folks
This was truly engaging and insightful! Thanks to Wendy, LA Creole and all of the panelists for a fantastic discussion!!
Thank you! Great Job!
Thank you for having me!
Thank you. This was a wonderful discussion!!
Thank you for your perspectives.
Nice to see you, Bliss!
Thank you! I am available at email@example.com if anyone wants to follow up or participate in my dissertation interviews on Creole identity.
Great questions and points Andrew!
Thank you panel. Although I only got in for the last 15 minutes, it seems to have been very enlightening and informative.
excellent discussion. hope we can do it next year in person.