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Food Talks: We are emergency respondents now - Shared screen with speaker view
Sarah W Sustain laptop
32:53
what is the code again?
The Hub Kings Cross
33:07
39 342
Nick Weir
33:13
The Open Food Network
Barbara Crowther
35:08
Also not working Dan
Nick Weir
35:20
Lots of volunteers setting up local food producers online
Barbara Crowther
35:36
Community mobilising support eg mutual aid network
A Lobo
35:57
Number of volunteers and community organisations going above and beyond.
jleonard
36:05
How local growers and purveyors are meeting food need.
Nick Weir
36:21
Volunteers also setting up food hubs to take online orders for home delivery
Barbara Crowther
36:22
loving the backdrop Dee :)
Gavin Wren
36:29
Love the backdrop :D
Nick Weir
36:56
Other volunteers taking phone orders for online shopfronts
jessicarussell
37:44
Hi everyone, get involved in the conversation and share your insights on Twitter using the hashtag #FoodTalks #FoodTalks
The Hub Kings Cross
38:29
Keep sharing here as well. Responses are very interesting so far
Kath
38:51
How can we equitably support people who were already in food need?
Nick Weir
39:25
here is how people are using the Open Food Network https://about.openfoodnetwork.org.uk/starting-out-on-your-ofn-journey/
Kath
39:44
We need to take pressure off food aid providers, Dee is quite right! Food Banks should not be expected to meet such massive need
Kath
39:49
"True chaos". This is so sad
Joanne
40:05
Thank you Dee!
Nick Weir
40:21
thanks Dee
Catherine Price
40:36
So sad what Dee is sharing
Chelsea Marshall
41:01
Nourish and the Poverty Truth Community recently updated our suggestions for how community food initiatives who are quickly adapting their responses can keep dignity at the forefront: http://www.nourishscotland.org/resources/guidance-for-community-responses-to-coronavirus/
Chelsea Marshall
41:46
Very grateful for Dee’s reflections on how community networks are dealing with this
Catherine Price
47:45
What can we learn? Such an important question raised by Kath.
Kath
48:03
Please do share the letter from Italy after the tele-conference.
Prisca Giordani
48:28
The letter was published by the Guardian
Kath
48:33
Thanks!
mex
48:39
Here is the letter that Dan mentioned - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/a-letter-to-the-uk-from-italy-this-is-what-we-know-about-your-future very moving
Nick Weir
50:41
Here's how Open Food Network enterprises are dealing with COVID-19 to minimise infection risk https://community.openfoodnetwork.org.uk/t/covid-19-how-is-your-enterprise-responding/460
Deirdre Woods
52:16
Thanks everyone
Sarah Stever
54:37
Thank you! What are the conversations occurring around not just food access but what food is consumed/provided? Are there predictions or levels of concern about large sectors of the population being pushed further into malnutrition/undernutrition? Pandemic as obecogenic?
Jess A
55:53
How do we help the food parcels to be more nutritionally balanced? As a funder we'd like to help through funding top-ups or deploying expertise.
Rachel Isted
59:09
To take the pressure off food banks, what advice would you give to frontline staff working with families concerned about their food security?
A Lobo
59:21
@Jess A - One important aspect is to ensure nutritionists / dieticians are involved in the conversation higher up the chain (at the food parcel planning stage ideally).
Barbara Crowther
01:00:11
We are also aware that some of the families in need don’t always have adequate kitchen and cooking facilities
Helene Schulze
01:01:26
From the Food Ethics Council twitter: Shouldn’t this crisis be used to raise the profile and appreciation for local suppliers and local retailers? Has their turn now come?
Natasha Soares
01:02:25
Better Food Traders are trying to raise the profile of local sustainable retailers using short supply chains, as are Landworkers Alliance
Vera Zakharov
01:04:12
to support Barbara’s comment - already a few mutual aid groups are facing requests for healthy cooked meal provision from people who cannot turn a food parcel into a meal. nor is an unhealthy parcel appropriate for people living with long term illnesses. some areas will be lucky with community meal services, but this can’t be effectively a post code lottery.
Chelsea Marshall
01:04:40
Access to accurate information about new and existing financial advice and support available to people will be critical - very important role for people who want to offer support to help people to access all the benefits and financial support they are entitled to (as Kath says, navigating the Universal Credit website can be very frustrating and discouraging - supporting people through that will help)
Natasha Soares
01:04:52
Could the free school meal food voucher scheme be rolled out more widely, with vouchers redeemable by any good food retailer, not just supermarkets?
Natasha Soares
01:05:02
Like the healthy start vouchers
Adrienne Attorp
01:05:06
Does anyone have thoughts on the impact of the pandemic on food prices moving forward? Issues around supply chain, inflation etc causing prices to rise? In some ways, we may move toward people paying something closer to the 'real' cost of food, but this may make many basics too expensive for people on low incomes. How much of a concern is this? Are there any potential mitigating measures?
Natasha Soares
01:06:02
Beyond the crisis please
Pearl Costello
01:06:14
Pearl from Food Cardiff here - we are working with community dieticians to put flyers (recipes and support to keep well) in packs that are going out from 3rd sector. would like to do this in official food parcels too
Dominic Le Mare
01:06:51
There has been some great work coordinated by the wholesalers around how food destined for catering can be repurposed into retailers, home delivery and helping those most in need.
Nick Weir
01:07:01
here is Open Food Network support to keep markets open and keep producers in business https://community.openfoodnetwork.org.uk/t/moving-food-markets-and-farmers-markets-online/466
Barbara Crowther
01:07:21
@Natasha Re rolling out school vouchers to other types of retailers - we at Sustain/Children’s Food Campaign will be advocating exactly that to DfE and EdenRed, their delivery partner! Wd love your thoughts on who/how. They will be delivered via local schools to parents via e-vouchers where possible.
Natasha Soares
01:08:08
We are drawing up guidelines for box schemes too
Natasha Soares
01:08:28
Thank you Kath
Nick Weir
01:08:31
Kath - please can you share those market guidelines here?
Kath
01:09:14
Nick Weir Kath@sustainweb.org
Prisca Giordani
01:09:31
On the same time there has been a rise onn waste food, mainnly caused by stockpiling. Resaturants are now closed. However, they could prepare food to be then dispatched to vulnerable people on isolation. This could allowed restaurants to keep going although close to the public. This should be funded by local, and national authorities
Barbara Crowther
01:09:54
This is what Growing Communities in Hackney is doing re markets https://www.growingcommunities.org/corona-virus-update#cvsafety
Vera Zakharov
01:10:24
Hey all, I am sure the SFP network is happy to share this: a collation of guidance for markets staying open: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lpj2WIF_ltTjmmHy7uCqyuSylbQrPDXbfp9XBNOY1yY/edit check out the industry guidance section for new cod market guidance.
Deirdre Woods
01:12:38
we also need to connect farmers and growers to food aid providers and low income/ vulnerable communities by expanding CSA and box schemes
Kath
01:13:24
Adrienne Attorp - there is some evidence emerging of impacts on food prices in US. Predictions in UK of price rises on fresh produce in future months due to pressures on production and likely 20% drop in yield. Not clear who will get this extra price though - probably not the farmers...
Natasha Soares
01:14:17
@Dee WoodsMany of the Better Food Trader veg box schemes are coordinating veg deliveries to local food banks
Natasha Soares
01:15:33
Rationing has a bad name but veg box schemes do it every week.
Natasha Soares
01:15:41
And call it sharing
Alison Burrell
01:16:11
Alison Burrell here from Alexandra Rose Charity scheme. We run the Rose Vouchers for Fruit and Veg Project working closely with local markets. We're seeing a very mixed picture across those we work with. Many traders are choosing not to trade for now, one area has closed their markets, another accidently told food traders they couldn't trade then said they could. So it's a changeable situation. We're also concerned that people are choosing not to go out to shop. Most of our areas are trying to keep markets open for food.
Deirdre Woods
01:16:42
Someone from our Granville team will be in touch @Natasha Soares
Gavin Wren
01:17:44
What will we be facing if the government steps up restrictions around movement, as they have hinted at?
Adrienne Attorp
01:17:45
Thanks Kath, that's interesting. No, very unlikely to go to farmers, as you say. 'Interesting' (in the scary way) to see how food price increases will play out in terms of food access...
Kath
01:18:27
Meat prices have gone up in US, but the money is staying with the intermediaries
Ralph Early
01:19:18
John's comment raises a question about what we mean by food system. We talk of THE food system but there are different food systems e.g. meat, fresh produce, wine, vodka. Ought planning for circumstances such as we now experience separate food systems into those critical to societal needs and those that effectively are luxury food systems? During WWII resources and supply chains were restructured to meet critical nutrition needs which meant that some kinds of food businesses ceased operation. This was a draconian approach, but it met the country's needs.
Vera Zakharov
01:19:46
Interesting point Sarah! We’ve heard this lots here in Brighotn & Hove too. on this point - i think Mutual Aid and other neighborhood groups can be the fertile ground for that community resilience and solidarity around food that we know is a key element of societal resilience.
Kath
01:20:34
Ralph Early: that's a very good point; this is my point about a "playbook". This is known territory, UK has been here before, how do we keep this knowledge alive and have it ready to go much more efficiently and fairly than it is happening at the moment.
Ruth Layton
01:21:06
Local is an interesting topic too - local for us is also food processed locally as well as grown locallt
Ruth Layton
01:21:27
Sorry locally
Natasha Soares
01:22:03
Some growers who are trying to set up horticultural production sites are still being thwarted by planning issues eg. Goonown Growers in Cornwall
Jo
01:22:04
Is there guidance on community farms and gardens staying open, akin to markets info that’s been circulated?
Vera Zakharov
01:22:22
question to Sarah and others - how do we join up efforts better between neighborhood level mutual support groups with charity and council-led emergency food aid responses - and crucially to strengthen these links for resilience-building in the future? I love the idea of telling these stories.
Prisca Giordani
01:23:51
Food prices maybe also affected by Brexit
vicki hird
01:24:46
I think Ruth laytons comment is important re processed foods eg meats or flour - issue around being able to rebuild local infrastructure for milling, cutting, part and full processing as well as other needs for farmers and growers. more long terms issue maybe?
Kath
01:24:53
Dairy industry saying that they're getting 2p less per litre for milk as foodservice outlet markets dry up
Sarah Stever
01:25:25
With global supply chains, what are the conversations occurring around what the effects of food availability will be when covid hits the global south?
Adrienne Attorp
01:25:26
And that loss is passed on to the farmer; the dairy processors certainly aren't taking the hit.
Nick Weir
01:25:42
Tamar Valley Food Hubs have this approach to tackling food poverty https://drive.google.com/file/d/1468hQeMzTg4Vytyv8vPfjoHPF9yjCmt_/view?usp=sharing
Deirdre Woods
01:25:45
@SarahW Sustain what’s happening re community gardens and guidance?
Kath
01:26:06
@ Sarah Stever - follow Prof. Tim Benton, he has been looking at international supply chains and big food supply decisions by national governments. Yes, his has big implications for the Global South.
Ruth Layton
01:26:07
Yes shorter supply chains with fewer cost centres will put the money back down the chain
Natasha Soares
01:27:16
Buying from retailers who prioritise direct from farmers (like Better Food Traders member organisations) allow a much higher percentage of the cost of food to go to the producer
Kath
01:27:28
Yes!
Natasha Soares
01:27:32
We need to support farmers in the good times so that they can support us in the bad
Kath
01:27:52
Yes! (You know I agree with you on everything, Tash!)
Ruth Layton
01:30:52
Agree training of chefs to work with what we have is so important
Ralph Early
01:32:19
We talk a lot about reinvigorating local food systems, but have work and lifestyles changed to such an extent that for most people the supermarket model of retailing is most convenient, efficient and practical?
Ruth Layton
01:33:24
Yes and modern technology can allow us to do that with local food systems too?
Barbara Crowther
01:34:40
Kath had a computer crash, she will be back with us shortly :)
Prisca Giordani
01:35:10
As a Public Health Nutritionist. I can say that epidemic and pandemic were expected, especially due to climate change. The World Health Organization had given strategy on how to tackle epidemic but mainly at Health system level. The government should prepare comprehensive action plan to tackle future epidemic
Natasha Soares
01:36:59
@ John Ingram At Growing Communities/Better Food Traders we have a system of subsidiarity and talk about a 'localised' (not only local) food system based on the 'food zones' https://betterfoodtraders.org/why-it-matters/the-food-zones/
Pearl Costello
01:38:12
You might be interested in our briefing for local authorities, based on Sara's comment on joining things up - feel free to use: http://www.foodsensewales.org.uk/pdf/Food-Access-and-Covid-19-Local-Authorities.pdf
Kath
01:40:13
Hooray for Dee!!!
Natasha Soares
01:40:42
Yes indeed!
Gavin Wren
01:41:18
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ralph Early
01:41:33
Sufficient food - a morally sound concept, but one that conflicts with the objectives of some of the largest food corporations which spend fortunes encouraging us to overconsume.
Barbara Crowther
01:42:21
LOVE that thought Kath - we are all key workers now!
Vera Zakharov
01:43:40
beautiful final messages all, thanks.
Kath
01:43:56
Hi Anna!
Kath
01:44:56
Sustain is organising various webinars for practitioners - frontline and local authority - we will provide connections and ways to get involved here: https://www.sustainweb.org/coronavirus/ (rapidly evolving, bookmark, get on our mailing lists)
Kath
01:46:05
We have provided links here to emergency funders: https://www.sustainweb.org/coronavirus/funders_and_funding/
Kath
01:46:29
Lots going on, relating to food and vulnerability: https://www.sustainweb.org/coronavirus/food_and_vulnerability/
Deirdre Woods
01:46:43
food equity
vicki hird
01:47:27
@dee - no recourse to funds came up at the no10 briefing today fyi
Anna Cura
01:47:29
Thanks Kath!
Deirdre Woods
01:48:01
@vicki Brilliant!
Barbara Crowther
01:48:28
Nice, Dan!
Vera Zakharov
01:48:32
v for volunteer power as well :)
Deirdre Woods
01:48:43
share that Dan
manal
01:49:21
Thanks very much guys for opening this talk for the public audience. It really meant so much to feel the pulse of food sustainability system during this time. I am an impact hub member and I work in the field of weight management and behavioral medicine services and research and currently run a digital health startup. If there is anything I could help with, I would be happy to do so. Feel free to connect https://www.linkedin.com/in/manal-health-behavior
Nick Weir
01:49:56
community food hubs
Kath
01:52:10
Carolyn Steel's book is brilliant!
Ruth Layton
01:52:15
Interested
Natasha Soares
01:52:52
yes to meeting in a month please
Sara Venn
01:53:04
yes please to ongoing talks!!
manal
01:53:12
Interested
Natasha Soares
01:53:12
ooh a competition
Gavin Wren
01:53:20
Yes please to more talks!
morvenoliver-larkin
01:53:37
Thanks so much!
Adrienne Attorp
01:53:44
Thanks!
Laura MacKenzie
01:53:45
thanks everyone! really brill. yes to reset :)
Student Eats
01:53:50
Thank you!
Denise Ndlovu
01:53:51
thanks for the talk
Asmat.Syed
01:53:51
HENRY practitioners are offering Starting Solids, Fussy Eating 1 to 1 sessions by phone and video calls.Linden Children's Centre 86/92 Rectory Road N16 7SHhttps://www.facebook.com/HENRY-City-Hackney-2822673887749397/
Prisca Giordani
01:53:52
Risk assessment, comprehensive plan know your community