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Yuki Schwartz
17:33
Hi all, Keystone UCC Seattle here!
Michael Moore
17:52
Michael Moore, Estes Park, Colorado
George Lynch
17:53
Hi This is George Lynch in Rancho Mirage, CA
David Schlicher
17:56
Northshore UCC in Woodinville WA here
Cynthia Meyer
17:57
I'm at United Christian Church, Renton, WA - UCC & DOC.
Aaron Monts
18:01
Hey everyone, Aaron from United Church in Queen Anne, Seattle
Scott Clark
18:03
Hello, friends! Scott Clark from the Bay Area here!
Joe Genau
18:05
Good morning - Joe - Edgewood PC(USA) - Birmingham, AL
Bob Fisher
18:05
Southeastern PA Synod ELCA and Kairos Communities here.
Karen Chamis
18:08
Several folks from Cayuga-Syracuse are here!
Beth DuBois
18:09
Hi folks - Beth from Syracuse NY here - special greetings to Presbytery brothers and sisters
Denise Fillion
18:09
Hi all, Denise, Director of Communication from the Diocese of Long Island. Thanks so much for this, Bruce!
Diocese of East TN
18:10
Bro. Andrew Aelred Morehead from the Episcopal Diocese of East Tennessee.
Susan Fairo
18:19
Susan Fairo - Spirit of Peace UCC/Sammamish WA
Barb Lewis
18:25
Hi from Tolt Church in Carnation
Shannan Vance-Ocampo
18:38
hi everyone Shannan Vance-Ocampo here from the Presbytery of Southern New England Presbytery. we do a lot of online streaming at some
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
18:39
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan, Digital Missioner at Virginia Theological Seminary (Episcopal)
Ashley Hawkins
18:43
Good Morning!! Here from Western Montana (Plains, Paradise and Whitepine)
Ryan Chaddick
18:47
Ryan from ALC Burbank
Loril
18:56
Hi all, Loril in the Adirondacks PCUSA
Shannan Vance-Ocampo
19:13
...of our churches and zoom extensively for the Presbytery. thanks Bruce for gathering us!
Kendra Grams
19:13
Kendra Grams, First Pres, Hudson, WI, praying for those who are already living with COVID-19 in the community, and seeking to be proactive about preparations
Ryan Lambert
19:25
Good morning--Ryan from Kirkland (WA) UCC
Jeanne Radak
19:43
Jeanne Radak, Presbytery Leader from Presbytery of Newton, Northwest NJ
Eileen Altman
20:34
Eileen Altman from First Congregational Church of Palo Alto, UCC
Karen Chamis
20:49
Tech Deacons. Love that.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
22:10
Open office hours are GREAT!
Bob Fisher
25:01
As a 501c3, you can also get discounted Zoom through techsoup.org
Tara Spuhler McCabe
25:04
Bruce, will part of this be how to facilitate a worship via zoom?
Bob Fisher
27:04
leader has the best audio possible
Jeanne Radak
27:29
I Use a Yeti Microphone.
Scott Clark
30:07
BEWARE notifications! lol
Jonathan Luk
31:40
Jonathan Luk, St. Mark's Episcopal, Palo Alto, thank you!
Tara Spuhler McCabe
33:50
That was awesome!!!
Scott Clark
34:55
Love this. And I know an ecclesiastical lawyer who will have our back.
Cynthia Meyer
35:41
Thanks for the communion idea. Very important especially for the DOC folks in our congregation.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
35:46
I’ve seen it with someone streaming it - those online count as being part of the community so that way the priest isn’t doing it just for themselves.
Bob Fisher
36:15
Is communion different if you have everyone on their own space, vs some gathered and some connecting via soon?
Yuki Schwartz
36:48
What a take on Calvin’s theology of spiritual communion!
Michael Moore
37:06
Actually, if you have a Ruling Elder with you (the Pastor/Teaching Elder) when you offer "virtual communion" you are meeting the requirements of the Book of Order
Bob Fisher
37:55
I’m not sure we have explored this in ELCA Lutheran circles.
Diocese of East TN
38:37
There are a couple of daily office communities online that split the service up and use the chat to assign roles along the way.
Bob Fisher
40:21
water
Simon Binns
40:26
Home made latte
Kendra Grams
40:36
COFFEE...especially with spring forward and young children!
Jeanne Radak
40:38
On the east coast I am past coffee and onto diet coke.
Ryan Chaddick
40:41
French press coffee
Marci Scott-Weis
40:44
Marci from Magnolia UCC in Seattle, can you talk about how you've done prayers from folks on this format?
Jeffrey Spencer
40:47
Warm water to sooth a very sore throat. I missed church yesterday.
Eileen Altman
40:52
Water here. Just woke up.
Susan Fairo
40:55
Will you cover basics - like how to set up a meeting and invite people?
Benjamin Fitzgerald-Fye
40:57
can youtube be shared through zoom?
Camille Josey
41:03
Diocese of E. TN can you tell me what are some of those online communities that we can see how they do it?
Beth DuBois
41:08
Copyright issues for music or liturgy?
Libby Shannon
41:09
How much do you prep before? How much is teaching folks how to use the technology as you go?
JT Smiedendorf
41:10
Copyright guidance for broadcasting in this way?
Eileen Altman
41:41
Do you preach through Zoom?
Shannan Vance-Ocampo
42:38
hospital coffee. I’m w my husband who is in the hospital keeping up virtually with seems like a good metaphor for this moment.
Jeffrey Spencer
42:42
JT, if we’re in Zoom, we’re doing a little narrower cast.
Diocese of East TN
43:04
Working on it, they’ve changed their format apparently
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
43:13
Copyright would depend on if it was public streaming or not
Michael Moore
43:14
Shannon, so sorry to hear this. Will be praying for you!
Jeffrey Spencer
43:17
Given the situation and religious use exemptions in copyright law, I’m not worried.
Simon Binns
43:33
If we record the Zoom service live, can this recording be viewed later by others not able to attend the live service ?
Loril
43:37
we do congregational dialogue after the sermon. Have you done any dialogue time with Zoom?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
43:49
Yes - I’ve done dialogue time.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
44:11
Also the zoom-supported recorded link too - no need to embed/upload
Yuki Schwartz
44:28
Copyrights: You’re not covered just because you have the hymnal. Reprint and streaming licenses from CCLI or OneLicense are cheap, and they ensure that hymn writers get paid for their work.
Shannan Vance-Ocampo
44:33
the CCLI streaming license is about $100/year FYI
Bob Fisher
44:42
Our house church frequently uses discussion by audio. Skype did not work so well, Zoom has been much better.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
45:24
Breakout rooms for discussion are also easily use-able when you have a paid Zoom account. Makes conversation essentially into small groups
Leigh Weber
45:32
How user friendly is this for older congregants?
Diocese of East TN
45:35
So dailyoffice.org has a group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/119266771440479/) and they post there.
Chris Deacon
45:46
Bruce, will you send out the video of your first Zoom worship so that we can have an example? This is great in theory, but I would like to see it in actuality.
Camille Josey
45:51
Thank you Diocese of East TN!
Betty Fisher
45:59
Once you record, is it a link that you can post on your website and FB page?
Diocese of East TN
46:06
YW
Tara Spuhler McCabe
46:15
What or how do you mean managing the chat while you facilitate....how does the chat person let you know what to do.
George Lynch
46:44
How are you planning for Easter Sunday when there will probably be a lot of new people who've never attended?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
46:44
Managing the chat is keeping up with questions to then share outloud or answer them (like I am right now!)
Jeffrey Spencer
46:58
If you share your recording on FB or YouTube, then you are “broadcasting” and you might want to worry about copyright issues.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
47:46
You can also setup an on-going link that you can have as the one SAME link for zoom webinars/meetings
Paul Mowry
48:15
What if you share recording on a private/invite only YouTube channel?
Ryan Lambert
48:37
you can pick a onelicense account that includes broadcast--I want to say it is $140 per year?
Tara Spuhler McCabe
49:17
I agree to no password. I also always enable people to join before me...or they freak out!!!
Susan Fairo
50:48
Once you copy that Reg link do you paste it into your mail manually?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
51:02
Bit.ly short links are also helpful
Paul Mowry
51:08
Is chat room dialogue preserved and available later?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
51:17
yes - chat logs are downloadable
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
51:44
and if you use the zoom recording platform, you’ll see them along the side pop-up in real time in sync with the recording as well.
Tara Spuhler McCabe
51:50
how are the chats downloadable
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
51:58
they’re found in the recording sections
Robin Sinclair
53:04
Watching on an iPhone — cannot rotate to full screen. Tips?
Yuki Schwartz
54:09
Key words for your Zoom experience: productive failure. We learn from everything we do.
Michael Moore
55:04
I like that! Productive Failure!
Paul Mowry
55:46
CONGRATULATIONS, SARAH!!
Karen Chamis
55:50
Hah. Congrats!
Mark Ford
55:54
Robin Sinclair-Do you have the screen rotation lock on or is it just zoom? Rotation is found under your top swipe down menu.
Bob Fisher (he/him)
56:05
Congratulations, Sarah
Chris Deacon
56:58
A demo would be helpful
Chris Deacon
57:11
Sure
George Lynch
58:11
Not bad
Mark Ford
58:12
Cuts in and out.
Ryan Chaddick
58:13
not so god
Susan Fairo
58:16
I thought it was pretty good.
Bob Fisher (he/him)
58:20
It was OK. Might have been bad with longer text
Yuki Schwartz
58:27
Y’all were great but the sound was terrible!
Denise Fillion
58:28
Pretty out of sync.
Tara Spuhler McCabe
58:46
It is not your speaking the voices cannot talk over one another... so it is cut off from one another
Chris Deacon
59:15
I can't imagine 20 people trying to respond at once. Holy cacophony.
Robin Sinclair
59:21
Thanks for iPhone rotation tip - worked! ❤️
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:00:05
https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:00:12
https://www.theworkofthepeople.com/
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:00:48
Yes watch and read :-)
Scott Clark
01:01:31
Can you say that one more time? What to do?
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:02:08
Pro-tip: When yo are sharing screen and using video, change your sound audio to "computer audio"
Scott Clark
01:02:26
THank yoU!
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:02:32
Othewise it's your mic picking up your speaker sound.
Simon Binns
01:02:33
Are you just using a computer for this or any experience using having a team to use external camera, audio and a ‘producer’ to switch screens and show other visual material
Jeffrey Spencer
01:02:45
Can I share from YouTube or do I need to download and then share?
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:03:29
Lots of tips here from Zoom on Video sharing: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/categories/201137166-Audio-Video-Sharing
Libby Shannon
01:05:57
Katie shares popup prayer from St Peter’s Cathedral in St Petersburg, FL via facebook
Susan Fairo
01:06:30
What's the difference between webinar and meeting?
Diocese of East TN
01:07:20
We use webinar for teaching and instruction, but it only lets us have the chat for participant
Jerry Herships
01:07:23
Apologize for coming in late…might have already been covered….Did you suggest the easiest way to share a message? I’m assuming Zoom? (MUCH older congregations….HAS to be REALLY easy…)
Susan Fairo
01:08:21
Thanks.
Jeffrey Spencer
01:08:39
I think my congregation will want to see each other, so I’d want to do a meeting.
Bob Fisher (he/him)
01:08:52
Eucharist by webinar would not allow the people to see each other.
Loril
01:08:56
can you jump from meeting to webinar?
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:09:06
No jumping.
Jeffrey Spencer
01:09:07
Brady Bunch style … Hahahahaha.
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:09:19
Disney OR California Adventure, not both :-)
Susan Fairo
01:10:05
how to we do a thumbs up?
Diocese of East TN
01:10:21
Reactions
Diocese of East TN
01:10:24
bottom right
Susan Fairo
01:10:29
Thanks.
Diocese of East TN
01:11:24
Our new monastic community uses Google Hangouts
Diocese of East TN
01:11:31
with permanent rooms assigned on a backend
Jerry Herships
01:12:25
very helpful…thanks!
Diocese of East TN
01:12:27
Zoom has, for our use, the best quality
David Schlicher
01:12:39
Thank you, Sarah, good stuff
Diocese of East TN
01:12:40
#worththemoney
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:12:46
https://www.facebook.com/popupprayers/
Tara Spuhler McCabe
01:13:30
Can David turn up his audio? mine is up.
Ruth Velasco-Schmitz
01:13:58
to use zoom for worship - is there a fee? sorry for the stupid question...
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:14:26
Under 40 minutes - zoom is free. but it *WILL* kick you off at 40 minutes.
Ruth Velasco-Schmitz
01:14:43
thank you!
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:14:49
two screens as the host is VERY helpful as well!
Bob Fisher (he/him)
01:15:01
Bottom right of my screen is Leave Meeting, not reactioins
Diocese of East TN
01:15:37
a little to the left of that should be a reactions button (at least on my desktop version of Zoom has it)
Denise Fillion
01:15:38
Has anyone thought about what might happen if many, many, many more people start using Zoom at the same time? I’m so not a techie, so not sure if it’s an issue but will it scale up easily when everyone starts meeting from home? Just curious.
Betty Fisher
01:15:46
probably a stupid question, but why wear earbuds?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:15:57
Scales up easily.
Diocese of East TN
01:15:58
Cycling of sound from your speaker to your mic
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:16:10
Zoom Overload is a good question. We will see.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:16:27
@Denise - you just need to be aware of pieces of participation v. community v. individuals
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:16:46
Earbuds or headphone to make sure that you do not get echos.
Karen Chamis
01:16:49
I know this is focused on worship, but there may also be significant opportunities for outreach and Christian Ed for all ages.
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:17:58
@karen Yes. Def a chance to bring this platform into other areas of ministry: meetings, ed, etc.
Yuki Schwartz
01:18:22
And church committee meetings!
Denise Fillion
01:18:47
@Sarah — That makes sense. I’m thinking more in terms of the system itself being overloaded by the many people who may begin using it to work and worship from home en masse.
Jeanne Radak
01:19:10
What about offering?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:19:20
@Denise - I think Zoom can handle it!
Stephanie Moffitt
01:19:23
set up online giving
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:19:25
Offering? meaning donations?
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:19:28
Committee Meetings: Def make sure your Tech Deacons make it possible for everyone to be a part of the meeting. So much possibility.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:19:29
Yes to online giving!
Loril
01:19:38
our worship services are also on the radio up here…this would be a wonderful way to create community with these folks..using the no registration makes seems to make it doable
Karen Chamis
01:20:00
Jeanne - the Presbyterian Foundation has options for online giving.
Bruce Reyes-Chow (he/him)
01:20:12
Offering yes. Online or other forms.
Diocese of East TN
01:20:13
Lay Tech Ministers for the Episcopal Church?
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:20:16
I’ll be leading a Zoom webinar *on* Zoom meetings on Thursday at 3pm eastern. Would love to have some of you all there! https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_Rnn9uE7VRC6cZhtlPZqgrA
Jerry Herships
01:20:33
What is the easiest way you would suggest for an elderly congr
Jerry Herships
01:20:41
to see a message
David Ensign
01:21:05
also, here’s the link to the YouTube video — enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUz-RShmnNk
David Ensign
01:21:25
for everyone who didn’t get winter this year that should remind you of snow
Bob Fisher (he/him)
01:21:53
We use tithe.ly
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:22:35
2 monitors is a game changer!
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:23:12
oh interesting - I did that for a while, now I do an extended monitor so that way my screen doesn’t go funky when I share my presentation/slides.
Jeffrey Spencer
01:23:14
We’re going to start using the Givelify ap in addition to online giving through our website.
Jeanne Radak
01:23:20
Love working with two screens. When I am on only one screen it seems odd.
Ashley Hawkins (She/Her/Hers)
01:23:41
Agree with Jerry, the average age of my my three congregations is 75ish any pointers for our elderly congregants who may not be familiar with virtual settings?
Denise Fillion
01:24:17
So grateful for this! I’m excited to share the recording with our clergy.
Stephanie Moffitt
01:24:25
could you have a tutorial at church before moving to zoom worship?
Stephanie Moffitt
01:24:35
if folks have laptops...they bring the,?
Stephanie Moffitt
01:24:37
them
Ashley Hawkins (She/Her/Hers)
01:25:06
no WiFi at any of my churches and two locations don’t have cell phone coverage
Scott Clark
01:26:19
This is awesome. Thank you so much!
Loril
01:27:11
ok, where do I find speaker view?
David Ensign
01:27:23
upper right corner of screen
Karen Chamis
01:27:40
Scratch and sniff lilies!!!
Denise Fillion
01:27:44
Scary question…
Scott Clark
01:27:45
Wow.
Susan Fairo
01:27:56
Wow for sure.
Yuki Schwartz
01:28:04
@Loril, you might have to hover your cursor over the Zoom screen so it brings up the different options before you see the “speaker view” button.
Tara Spuhler McCabe
01:28:31
send a Cristian Ed template for make your own Lily and share during the online service!!!
David Ensign
01:29:21
you don’t know if they’ll show up, but you will see if they do … it’s like Santa Claus! :)
Karen Chamis
01:29:23
Thinking about using zoom for keeping vigil for Good Friday. Rotating visuals… using the chat for prayers
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:29:36
omg. Easter Vigil via zoom. SO EXCELLENT.
Mark Ford
01:29:53
For those of us who grew up experiencing pushing the wrong button or key shutting down or entire computer, we need to let people know that in Zoom, you can pretty well push any button and it won’t cause an issue with Zoom.
Karen Chamis
01:30:19
Youtube for the sermon.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:30:21
@Jerry - do you want interaction?
Mark Ford
01:30:22
So encourage people to push all the buttons on your first meeting.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:30:47
I would also include some discussion questions if posting on FB/website/YT.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:31:37
links to scripture/lectionary too!
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:32:33
Would STRONGLY recommend registration. If you post the link publicly, you can get some trolls.
Mark Ford
01:33:22
Can you limit screen sharing as the moderator of the meeting?
Diocese of East TN
01:33:29
Thank you so much for this. I now feel equipped on next steps for our diocese to be prepared. Thank you, looking forward to sharing the recording!
Loril
01:33:35
Thanks…found it
Kendra Grams
01:33:37
Can the host prevent participants from screen sharing? (I just know that I had some people who "accidently" click things.
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:33:56
East Tennessee: say hey to Bp. Brian for me!
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:34:19
It’s part of the admin back-end process
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:34:25
*no-screen sharing that is
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:34:37
YT videos!
David Schlicher
01:34:42
How do I add one’s pronouns? I can’t seem to find where my name is set in the preferences
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:34:42
spotify playlist!
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:35:03
David - it’s under rename
Sarah Stonesifer Boylan (she/her)
01:35:21
top right hand corner of your own pic and then the three blue dots -> rename
Beth DuBois
01:35:25
How do we add a still picture
David Schlicher
01:35:34
Thank you!
Beth DuBois
01:35:57
To the name screen
Marci Scott-Weis
01:35:59
thank you! great information
Scott Clark
01:36:05
Thanks so much!
Yuki Schwartz
01:36:06
Thank you Bruce!!
Jeffrey Spencer
01:36:08
Bruce, this was SO helpful!!
Ashley Hawkins (She/Her/Hers)
01:36:10
Thank you sooo helpful!!!
Kendra Grams
01:36:11
Thank you so much!
Joe Genau
01:36:12
Thanks Bruce!!!!
Karen Chamis
01:36:14
Beth… can walk you through that
Mark Ford
01:36:17
Thanks!
Meighan Pritchard
01:36:21
This is all good information. Thank you.
Mary Beene
01:36:23
Thank you -- great info!
Susie Wiggins
01:36:27
This was awesome - thank you!
Jerry Herships
01:36:27
Thanks SO much! Very worthwhile.
Ruth Velasco-Schmitz
01:36:38
thank you!
Barb Lewis
01:36:41
Great Info! Thanks much.
Bob Fisher (he/him)
01:36:44
Thanks Bruce, Sarah, and David!!!
Susan Fairo
01:36:58
Thank you Bruce - this is so helpful!
Karen Chamis
01:37:15
Grateful. Thank you.
Lauren Cannon
01:37:16
thank you so much- such great info- we will share later today with some WA (especially Seattle area) UCC churches!
Tami Groves
01:37:23
thank you!!!
David Ensign. He/Him/His
01:37:24
Thanks Bruce. Good stuff.
Ryan Lambert
01:37:25
thank you
Paul Mowry
01:37:32
SO GREAT - THANKS!!
Camille Josey
01:37:32
THANK YOU so much for this! Very helpful!
Jeffrey Spencer
01:37:34
two pages of notes. that’s a worthwhile time!
Jerry Herships
01:37:39
Could be a whole new game this time next week! fingers crossed!
Dave Schlicher (he/him)
01:37:40
Great session! Thank you!