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Market Street and Federal Street Stakeholder Meeting #1 - Shared screen with speaker view
Ben Saracco
38:57
Thank you for holding this meeting, I unfortunately have an additional work meeting at 2pm I must also attend, but I still want to make sure this feedback can be taken when Q&A begin later on. I am concerned that the originally proposed improvements in the Cooper-Grant and Central Waterfront neighborhood plan have not been incorporated into the proposed alternatives. Was this neighborhood plan considered by the engineers who created these alternatives? Market Street is one of the best success stories of small business start-ups (particularly minority-owned small business) in the city. Please maintain one side of full-time street parking, implement bike lanes, and have single lane two-way traffic. Thanks for your time and work on this project, these changes will have the potential to change downtown Camden for a generation to come. Please accept public feedback and make appropriate changes or additional alternatives available that incorporate complete streets and the neighborhood plan recommendations.
Sonia Szczesna, Tri-State Transportation Campaign
53:19
Are any considerations being made to encourage commuters to use public transit in order to reduce congestion?
Jonathan Latko
55:50
On #1 - Most capacity for what? Driving?
Ben Saracco
56:20
Another question for the Q&A portion, are the waterfront shuttles and their pick up locations be considered in these plans? I walk Market and 5th daily (during pre-COVID times) and the idling shuttles outside the PATCO station contributes to unsafe travel for pedestrians and vehicles. Thanks.
Kyle Semmel
57:47
For Option #2, how will the lanes shift? Mobile barriers?
Quinn deMenna
59:33
Why is the goal to minimize the impacts to parking and accessibility to local business and not improving potential for local businesses while the goal is to improve traffic?
dwaine
01:02:37
is City of Camden allowed partner with this project. where’s the city partner logos?
Rosemari
01:03:28
This proposal appears to be for the benefit of the waterfront, not long standing businesses. Why?
Rosemari
01:04:40
This will directly impact a large percent of minority businesses. Why is the business group being marginalize?
Quinn deMenna
01:05:53
Why is the parking on Alt #4 on the South side when most existing local businesses are on the North side?
Rosemari
01:06:24
Why is this just being introduced to the business and residents? This has the appearance of information with options that all benefit the large employers on the waterfront.
Rosemari
01:07:17
If this is a Camden City project, why is this showing Camden County and Cooper Ferry?
Joseph Russell
01:08:00
The focus of these alternatives seems to be on how to move as many cars as possible, which while understandable, is frustrating. These streets must be reconfigured so as to allow existing and new small businesses opening up to thrive with the influx of new workers in the city. How will you use your power to help small businesses on these streets get the foot traffic they'll need to survive?Also as someone who rides a bike in Philadelphia and Camden often, it's my experience that sharrows do absolutely nothing.
Steven Weinstein
01:08:04
with the reversiblelanealternatives,does the parking also shift sides. if so,plan gets defeated as soon as a parked car fails to move when the time shift occurs
Rosemari
01:09:13
Again, the capacity and need of whom? Not your local business community.
Rosemari
01:09:51
Safety numbers are low for year period. Studies show 2 way traffic has higher not lower accidents
Kyle Semmel
01:10:42
Where would users of USPS and other Market Street businesses park in Option #2?
Rosemari
01:11:00
Who is paying for this change? Is this state funding, county funding? As the waterfront business are not paying taxes, is this a further burden on city residents
Rosemari
01:12:31
Why is a big sign a great idea? I have not seen this in Philadelphia,New York, Baltimore and other large urban cities.
Daniel Paschall
01:13:02
Where are the incentives and dedicated space for commuters to use transit, bike, and walk? If congestion is the issue, these are all far more efficient ways to move people and reduce congestion: https://nacto.org/publication/transit-street-design-guide/introduction/why/designing-move-people/Improved transit and pedestrian access means more foot traffic and customers for local businesses and less competition for parking spaces.
Raymond Lamboy
01:13:41
Alternate #2 in my opinion touches on all the goals of the project. Street level businesses along the corridors will benefit by maintaining the most parking. Waterfront businesses have the ease of entry and exit they are looking for. The only question mark is enforcement. There will be a learning and culture change in the city around on street parking. This can be overcome by an education campaign during construction, increase enforcement at initial startup and an aggressive towing operation after a grace period.
Sam Mody
01:13:48
In commencing into the CD phase, I am sure everyone associated with this project anticipated challenges with restricting parking on both parallel roadways. I am sure the survey will provide meaningful feedback on the lane configuration and min. parking needs.
Jonathan Latko
01:14:20
I realize these are county roads in the city and I am thrilled that money was won to update this infrastructure. It is needed. But I am not sure our goals are aligned for increased people activity in one of the few last business coorders hanging on in the downtown. Page 94 of the Cooper-Grant Central Waterfront Neighbrohood Plan developed in 2015, accepted by the city and posted on the CRA website should be a strong driver for what residents and stakeholders prioritized. That plan specifically addresses Market St. on page 94 - http://camdenredevelopment.org/plans/CGCW_Plan.pdf The goals laid out today match more of what the residents were asking for but the proposals seem to focus mainly on getting cars to and from the waterfront. With Cooper St being updated now to take on more "highway capcity of moving cars" - can we really consider a sustainable forward thinking multimodal, bike ped shuttle car solution for Market St? Can we prioritize the goals using the plan?
Sara Jslin
01:14:36
What is the travel lane relationship with the increased bus traffic to new Transit Center and the proposed pedestrian Mall on Broadway ?
John Boyle BCGP
01:16:24
What are the transit solutions?
Meredith Brown
01:16:43
Are there plans for streetscaping, specifically involving the existing street trees? I also second other attendees' concerns about loss of parking for local businesses along Federal and Market streets-public transportation/walkability should be encouraged and parking should be preserved near where the small business are located downtown.
John Boyle BCGP
01:18:48
Why has the option of protected bike lanes not considered? There seems to be a lot of travel lanes going to the waterfront.
John Fisher
01:20:20
1.) What is the major reasons for doing this?There is a light at Haddon and Market. Will there be a light just a few feet forward at N. 7th Street, for people to make a left onto n. 7th St for diocesan employees and parishioners at the Cathedral to get into the parking lot? Won't this slow down traffic. There are two cement barriers on this street that will have to be destroyed as well.
Mike Morgan
01:20:56
When time allows, I have a few comments to speak as well
Curt Voss
01:21:14
thank you for hosting today's meeting..will the planning take into consideration the high volume events that are opposite to the standard peak egress times?
Sara Jslin
01:21:49
why was the parking on the north side of Market St of proposed to be removed ?
Raymond Lamboy
01:22:53
Much like in PHilly
Dan Bochanski
01:23:21
Has any consideration been given to cars exiting parking lots? For example the Cathedral Parking lot exits onto Federal. Attempting to make left hand turns across 2 or 3 lanes of opposing traffic could lead to many more accidents. Possible additional turn signal installations?
Bryon Yoder
01:24:13
Major improvements are underway in North Camden to accommodate vehicular traffic to the waterfront from 7th St. With the increased vehicular capacity that provides, has a traffic study considered what is necessary to accommodate vehicular capacity on Market & Federal? In other words, is the capacity necessary on Market & Federal reduced due to the North Camden improvements?
Rosemari
01:26:04
There are no off street parking. Also, there are a number of business from City Hall to Waterfront. Parking is not unrelated, it is the life blood of the Market Street businesses.
Rosemari
01:26:59
Shouldn’t off street and a viable plan to address to handle before you gut businesses.
Mike Morgan
01:27:01
can we get clarity on that-- looking for locations for offstreet parking?
Raymond Lamboy
01:27:37
Off street parking can be prohibitive especially for users who only want to stop into one of the street level businesses for 15 - 30 minutes, etc.
Daniel Paschall
01:28:03
Why not include a design option like this, which includes parking, dedicated transit, and protected bike lanes, all of which move more people than mixed-traffic?: https://nacto.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Phases-2-960x276.png (from: NACTO Design Guidance)
Rosemari
01:28:15
Who in the city is part of the project team?
Kyle Semmel
01:30:24
If Market Street becomes 2 lanes in each direction, is there any thought as to whether cars making a left across two lanes into the Court Jury lot/Brewery lot would cause more traffic accidents than how the current setup is? Seems like during rush hour in the morning, cars traveling westbound trying to find/turn into that lot would cause an increase in accidents.
Raymond Lamboy
01:30:36
The off-peak parking plan is most advantageous to street level businesses. Between 9am and 3pm is prime time for these small businesses.
Sonia Szczesna, Tri-State Transportation Campaign
01:31:34
I think Daniel and John have shared some great concepts here that really weren't explored as potential alternatives.
Rosemari
01:31:49
Ray, there are restaurants, cafes and other businesses that need to have consideration. Life start well before 9:00 am
Hope Mead
01:33:08
I don’t see any options which increase parking. Everything seems to decrease parking even if it’s just during peek hours. That can effect businesses. Also has there been any consideration for traffic calming measures or curb side bump outs like in Collingswood?
John Boyle BCGP
01:33:12
Will traffic calming like raised intersections and bumpouts be considered to reduce speeds and protect pedestrians.
Sara Jslin
01:34:14
Is there consideration of cars stopping to drop off people if parking is eliminated ? Stopped vehicles headed westbound impacts traffic flow on Cooper when parking was eliminated.
Rosemari
01:34:44
Why is Camden County driving a project for Camden City?
Beth Waltrip
01:35:05
How will NJ Transit bus stops be handled?
Mike Morgan
01:39:40
Why are both complete street policies not being fully enforced on this project?
Jordan Mead
01:41:40
The parking considerations are great. But parking isn't the only thing benefits businesses. There is so much data out there that shows multi-modal designs are what's best for small businesses. Curb-bumpouts, pedestrian crossing signage and lights. Wider crosswalks. Bike lanes. These things all improve small business economy, and yet, these alternatives are all designed to be friendly to the commuters coming in. None of these designs are actually focused on improving small business. Just improving traffic, while doing the absolute minimum to take businesses, pedestrians, and bikes, into consideration. And not considering other modes of transportation isn't even doing the best to improve traffic anyway. Getting people out of their cars is what's best for the environment, for businesses, and for everyone's safety. Will other options be proposed that actually consider Camden's residents and small businesses as the priority?
Sonia Szczesna, Tri-State Transportation Campaign
01:43:02
The updated NJDOT model Complete & Green Streets policy also considers green infrastructure. This would be a great addition to Meredith's suggest of adding street trees. Perhaps with enhanced tree pits to help with stormwater management or bump outs as traffic calming solutions with rain gardens.
dwaine williams
01:52:05
Was traffic study done while all waterfront features activities were in full operation at the same time.
Quinn deMenna
01:52:33
Part of the function for small businesses along Market is for front loading because of the lack of rear loading access. Without parking at the curb there is increased impact on the survival of those businesses. Should this be considered?
Jonathan Latko
01:53:08
on Bryon's point - the Other projects that are underway at Cooper's Point, 7th street update and Cooper St to relieve some of this conjestion that is focused on Market and Federal.
dwaine williams
01:53:36
if the city a partner, the City’s should be on all presentations
dwaine williams
01:58:01
like to have more consideration giving to how make market street more viable/attractive to cause people to want to walk on market street as oppose to driving
Ben Saracco
01:58:43
I disagree, I think we need additional alternatives.
Mike Morgan
01:58:59
losing one parking space at each block would be an immense benefit it it means getting bumputs. they vastly improve pedestrian safety and as you said visibility
Kyle Semmel
01:59:31
My question was not fully asked. In option #2, you cannot have a turn restriction into the Court's Jury lot/the parking lot (16 N 3rd Street) between 3rd and 4th Street, as there is only one way in and out. So wouldn't that stoppage of traffic for people traveling westbound making a left during rush hour cause more accidents than what is being experienced now?If the goal is to increase safety, is this something that has or will be looked at with each option?
Mike Morgan
02:01:09
In case I'm unable to speak, I want mention that all the current proposals are extremely lacking. I have concrete suggestions to propose alternatives if speaking is allowed.
Hope Mead
02:01:23
I think we need other options, none of these options presented seem adequate.
Kyle Semmel
02:03:06
Thank you.
Sara Jslin
02:03:23
please examine/ include the impact of bus traffic including turns into/ out of the Transportation Center. Than you
Sonia Szczesna, Tri-State Transportation Campaign
02:03:59
I agree, none of these alternatives seem to consider all road users equally. I'd be interested in seeing other options.
Ben Saracco
02:04:27
Please have additional alternatives ready for the next stakeholder meeting if possible. Thanks!
Rosemari
02:04:27
Sonia: I agree we need more options
Jordan Mead
02:04:34
Echoing Mike, none of the alternatives are anywhere near complete streets policies. At complete streets conferences I've been to, they would've called these designs outdated.
Raymond Lamboy
02:05:07
Please keep in mind their are private property owners and business owners who have a lot at stake on these corridors.
John Fisher
02:05:10
thank you!
Ben Saracco
02:05:21
Less Robert Moses more Jane Jacobs ;)
Meredith Brown
02:05:21
I agree with everyone here-looking forward to seeing additional alternatives.
Jordan Mead
02:05:57
Thank you. I look forward to seeing better options in the future.
Scott Stephens
02:05:58
Please take a moment to complete our project survey at this link:https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FederalAndMarket
Mike Morgan
02:06:18
Can some small focus groups be organized to provide feedback? Group discussion always provides more creative dialogue and solutions that a strict Q&A format