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Student Success Research - OER in Biology - Shared screen with speaker view
Michelle Priest
24:17
They will not buy books...period...unless you MANDATE it
Michelle Priest
24:36
But my section was about to get cancelled...I emailed them that I use OER … it filled in less than 12 hours.
Jeff Schinske
24:53
I definitely have students that opt not to buy course materials due to cost.
Michelle Priest
24:56
my chair was mad....as it caused cancellations in other sections
Suzanne Wakim
25:08
they should have gone to OER too :)
Ying Liu
25:36
We used to use McGraw-Hill, it was about $100 / semester. It was mandatory. We are switching to OER now.
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
28:16
We use OpenStax for many of our classes
Jeff Schinske
28:16
We have an interesting model. Our A&P instructors are encouraged to use Openstax, but also have the OPTION to use a for-pay text (just one for-pay option so there aren’t lots of different pay options)
Zia Nisani
28:17
Yes, I do but I supplement it with primary sources (especially, classic articles).
Ying Liu
28:45
We are using OER Microbiology, and are developing ancillaries
Jeff Schinske
28:56
So, across our 3-quarter sequence, a student might see OER one quarter, then for-pay the next, then OER again in the 3rd quarter.
Suzanne Wakim
31:21
The UMN database is AMAZING!
Suzanne Wakim
31:38
https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks
WAYNE JOHNSON
31:43
Im clue-less. Have never heard of them. 1st Webinar
Suzanne Wakim
32:30
https://openstax.org/
Suzanne Wakim
37:05
I think the teacher is the most important.
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
37:26
Agreed. Teaching makes a huge difference.
Ying Liu
37:53
We use homework assignments. Practice is important.
Jeff Schinske
38:27
I feel like biology instructors rarely require reading. Chem and math instructors often assign problem sets from a book, etc., but I find biology folks rarely do.
Suzanne Wakim
40:29
yup - Students don't read the textbook anyway :/
Zia Nisani
41:59
Textbook supplements me and not the other way around. So in my view, they are not that important. My lec notes, in-class learning, and activities such as case-studies will do.
Suzanne Wakim
42:28
Great comment @Zia - absolutely!
Jeff Schinske
43:41
Students! :)
Suzanne Wakim
43:55
For a lot of faculty - the textbook gives them a framework for lecture topics. We can help give them a more open framework.
Suzanne Wakim
47:47
That's fascinating!
Jeff Schinske
51:42
FYI - you can find Kristyn’s complete article here: https://www.lifescied.org/doi/pdf/10.1187/cbe.19-01-0022
Jeff Schinske
51:48
It is open access
Zia Nisani
52:15
Thank you for the talk. How does the demographics of your study compare to California?
Zia Nisani
53:31
thank you
Jeff Schinske
54:18
Wow! I’m surprised you have >60% of students from underrepresented ethnicities there.
George Shahla
55:03
Thank you
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
57:56
Wow! I have not had that response about OpenStax. Most find it great (although the A&P one has improved greatly)
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
58:59
A vocal minority!
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:00:46
Do you have 56 faculty teaching biology at Foothill? Or was this a wider survey?
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:01:09
Oh I see.
Zia Nisani
01:01:59
On our schedule OER classes are marked as 0$. I was about to do a study on fill-rate, success rate etc. between zero$ and regular classes, unfortunately mini-apocalypse hit
Michelle Pilati
01:03:35
You were denied doing what you are legally obligated to do?
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:07:58
Good to know. Thanks!
Shirley Isaac
01:09:18
Have you heard about successful use of the Anatomy & Physiology OpenStax text at colleges where A&P are separated into 2 different courses?
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:09:33
We are using it!
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:09:45
And it seems to work great.
Shirley Isaac
01:09:54
Meaning Anatomy one semester and Physiology during a second semester. Do students find it confusing to work from a text that combines both?
Shirley Isaac
01:10:25
Thanks, Kristyn!
Zia Nisani
01:11:06
primary sources are the best way to teach.
Ying Liu
01:11:56
Yes
Kristyn VanderWaal Mills
01:12:45
For sure! That is a terrific point.
Jeff Schinske
01:12:45
Yes, well said.
Shirley Isaac
01:13:51
How exciting! Thanks from Rio Hondo College.
Zia Nisani
01:15:24
Thanks you. This was awesome. My first webinar ever.
Ying Liu
01:15:25
Thank you all!
Shirley Isaac
01:15:26
Thanks!
Nancy Wheat
01:15:29
Thank you!
Michelle Priest
01:15:33
Off to give an online exam.....:)
George Shahla
01:15:50
Thanks!