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ECIC - Estimating Class #2 - Shared screen with speaker view
Jim Johannemann
14:15
Thank you Hannah
Jim Johannemann
19:36
Please ask any questions in this chat box, we are monitoring it and will answer as quickly as possible
Joyce Gu
22:29
Do multiple people typically do the same counting task for sake of accuracy?
Jim Johannemann
24:10
not usually that would be excess use of resources, however, accuracy in not missing items is covered in the review process step when preparing the final summary sheet
Hannah Lux
25:52
Do your companies utilize Bluebeam for counting?
Hannah Lux
26:21
Yes it is extremely helpful!
Jim Johannemann
26:33
Blue Beam is one of many tools that help to count items.
Joyce Gu
30:44
Are these symbols standardized?
Jim Johannemann
30:47
An assembly is like a recipe, these are the ingredients that we need to "make" or install a receptacle or light fixture. Consider the recipe for the light shown is for a vanilla 2 x 4 fixture, The recipe or assembly for a "chocolate 2 x 2 fixture will have a different ingredient
Hannah Lux
30:55
All of this information would be given to us in the specs from an electrical team right?
Jim Johannemann
32:49
Most symbols are standard but different engineers sometimes use there own. There is customarily a symbol sheet in a set of drawings that clearly explain what a symbol represents. There is an Electri NEIS standard symbol publication available on the NECA web site
Jim Johannemann
35:55
Scalable means that if you can estimate one small room you can estimate two small rooms or 6 rooms or 20 rooms. Each part of a take off builds on another. You will be able to estimate any size project by following the process, best practices & good habits. Add up the rooms and get to a hotel
Hannah Lux
38:27
Sounds very helpful!
Jim Johannemann
38:31
The information will be on the drawings and or in the specifications. If there is information missing or cannot be understood an estimator begins the "RFI" process. Request for information from the owner or designer
Jim Johannemann
39:59
RFIs are very important, the answers to any bidders RFI are usually sent to all bidders and helps to get everyone bidding on the same scope - levels the playing field
Jim Johannemann
42:10
the process Matt is describing is called "listing" in estimator talk
amiri
43:18
What does EMT again?
Jim Johannemann
43:53
Electrical Metallic Tubing
amiri
44:12
Thanks
Jim Johannemann
44:13
Slang - Thinwall
Jim Johannemann
46:20
Note Matt is displaying filled in Columnar Take Off Sheet. The estimator will be starting off with a blank sheet and will need to input the symbols, drawing numbers etc. Other forms that we us like fee
Jim Johannemann
47:37
other forms that we use like feeder sheets, or motor connection sheets are preprinted along the description line. That helps to not miss any of the components
Jim Johannemann
47:56
All of the sheets when put together are called your working papers
Jim Johannemann
50:35
remember all exposed conduit has to be installed in a workman like manner, square and perpendicular to the walls, floors and ceilings. above hung ceilings and in walls is considered exposed
Jim Johannemann
51:05
When installing conduit in or under a slab the conduit can be installed as the crow files
Jim Johannemann
51:11
\flys
Jim Johannemann
53:28
Listing materials from the take off sheet to the pricing sheet. The pricing sheet is another one of your working papers
Matt Firestone
59:01
Material installation, the actual time to install the piece of material.
Hannah Lux
01:02:11
So we need to put labor units for each item on top of doing a work break down structure?
Matt Firestone
01:06:24
For electrical estimating we typically come up with a total number of labor hours and then generate a composite labor rate to get to our labor cost. This composite labor rate could be described as our crew structure, how many foremen, journeymen, and apprentices you will have on the job. For example you might have 1 - Foremen at $60 per hour, 2 - Journeymen at $50 per hour and an Apprentice at $25 per hour. If they are all used equally on the project (25% each) the composite rate would be $46.25 ($60 * 25% + $50* 50% + $25 * 25%).
Hannah Lux
01:07:53
Could I ask an out loud question about the MLU when you all are done presenting?
Jim Johannemann
01:12:41
Blended rate
Josh Bone
01:23:29
josh.bone@electri.org
Hannah Lux
01:24:21
thank you!
amiri
01:24:23
Thank you!
Jenny Torrico
01:24:32
Thank you!
Joyce Gu
01:24:44
Thank you!