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Do multiple people typically do the same counting task for sake of accuracy?
not usually that would be excess use of resources, however, accuracy in not missing items is covered in the review process step when preparing the final summary sheet
Do your companies utilize Bluebeam for counting?
Yes it is extremely helpful!
Blue Beam is one of many tools that help to count items.
Are these symbols standardized?
An assembly is like a recipe, these are the ingredients that we need to "make" or install a receptacle or light fixture. Consider the recipe for the light shown is for a vanilla 2 x 4 fixture, The recipe or assembly for a "chocolate 2 x 2 fixture will have a different ingredient
All of this information would be given to us in the specs from an electrical team right?
Most symbols are standard but different engineers sometimes use there own. There is customarily a symbol sheet in a set of drawings that clearly explain what a symbol represents. There is an Electri NEIS standard symbol publication available on the NECA web site
Scalable means that if you can estimate one small room you can estimate two small rooms or 6 rooms or 20 rooms. Each part of a take off builds on another. You will be able to estimate any size project by following the process, best practices & good habits. Add up the rooms and get to a hotel
Sounds very helpful!
The information will be on the drawings and or in the specifications. If there is information missing or cannot be understood an estimator begins the "RFI" process. Request for information from the owner or designer
RFIs are very important, the answers to any bidders RFI are usually sent to all bidders and helps to get everyone bidding on the same scope - levels the playing field
the process Matt is describing is called "listing" in estimator talk
What does EMT again?
Electrical Metallic Tubing
Slang - Thinwall
Note Matt is displaying filled in Columnar Take Off Sheet. The estimator will be starting off with a blank sheet and will need to input the symbols, drawing numbers etc. Other forms that we us like fee
other forms that we use like feeder sheets, or motor connection sheets are preprinted along the description line. That helps to not miss any of the components
All of the sheets when put together are called your working papers
remember all exposed conduit has to be installed in a workman like manner, square and perpendicular to the walls, floors and ceilings. above hung ceilings and in walls is considered exposed
When installing conduit in or under a slab the conduit can be installed as the crow files
Listing materials from the take off sheet to the pricing sheet. The pricing sheet is another one of your working papers
Material installation, the actual time to install the piece of material.
So we need to put labor units for each item on top of doing a work break down structure?
For electrical estimating we typically come up with a total number of labor hours and then generate a composite labor rate to get to our labor cost. This composite labor rate could be described as our crew structure, how many foremen, journeymen, and apprentices you will have on the job. For example you might have 1 - Foremen at $60 per hour, 2 - Journeymen at $50 per hour and an Apprentice at $25 per hour. If they are all used equally on the project (25% each) the composite rate would be $46.25 ($60 * 25% + $50* 50% + $25 * 25%).
Could I ask an out loud question about the MLU when you all are done presenting?