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INTEROPen Meds Hackathon Post Hack Presentations with Intro - Shared screen with speaker view
Helen Young
07:36:28
21st & 22nd September for the next hackathon on Identity
Luke Readman
07:44:46
Helen Can you post the Hack twitter handle-thanks
Helen Young
07:50:59
Twitter Handle #FHIRHack2020
Caroline Anderson
07:55:37
Does this rely on the EPMA system defining AMP?
Luke Readman
07:56:05
Bye all-Thanks for contributi
Matt Bourne
08:03:25
I'm not going to be able to present or create slides as I need to run but I have got a video of the result.https://www.awesomescreenshot.com/video/407847?key=3a63964879895ccd164f4a3bfa9a163aUsing NHS login then pulling down meds from the orion consolidated record and presenting to patient as a list that can be edited (mark medicines as inactive / add comment).
Andy Hadley
08:04:08
Thanks Matt for being part of the event and leaving your video
Steve Swinsburg
08:14:22
Thanks Matt, great to see our new API being used!
Kevin Mayfield
08:27:14
How long do messages stay on a queues?
Kevin Mayfield
08:27:20
^Kafka
David Beaumont
08:38:41
@kevin
Rob Walker
08:38:41
It is configurable, - by default 7 days
David Beaumont
08:38:54
Or infinite - it’s a log rather than a queue
Rob Walker
08:39:38
we are thinking along the lines of Kafka topics being the longitudinal record
Kevin Mayfield
08:39:55
Thanks. The Manchester LHCRE FHIR Server has similar topology. We don't use an external queuing engine at the mo but planning too.
Mike Smith
08:41:09
One of the benefits of kafka is the connector ecosystem so you can push data into and out of kafka into the tools that best suit the proble you are trying to solve
Steve Swinsburg
08:41:32
What happens after the end of that time period in Kafka? Does the data get persisted anywhere?
Mike Smith
08:42:29
You have different options - so you can persist it for long lengths of time - moving it into cheaper tiered storage and/or you can move it into different data stores or both
Kevin Mayfield
08:43:13
Its for queuing/streaming though, not for persistence.
Kevin Mayfield
08:43:46
The multiple consumers may be very useful.
Rob Organ
08:44:52
Apologies everyone but I am going to have to leave the demo. I will video the presentation and share. Some really great stuff happening here!
Helen Young
08:46:04
Hi RobI've just seen your slides and added you to the list. There will be time if you want to share your hack. We're just running a little tight on time but sure we'll be okay.
Mike Smith
08:46:23
One of the things you need to consider is if you need to preserve the historic state of the data in order to rebuild information - this can be useful if you want to recreate datastores after schema changes as you can rebuild the database rather then mutate (update it). Generally Kev is right you don't look to hold forever for most use cases
JOSHUA Porteous
08:47:41
At the top of the call View Options - Select Mark Hunt
Kevin Mayfield
08:48:15
Mike, what we have at the mo is on this url.basically it's Apache Camel+HAPI going via queue to HAPI JPA FHIR Server.Having kafka in between the two would probably work
Kevin Mayfield
08:48:19
https://project-wildfyre.github.io/careconnect-messaging-r4/
Kevin Mayfield
08:48:49
Camel is doing the transforms
Mike Smith
08:49:40
Thanks Kevin that's a perfect paring!
Mike Smith
08:51:15
One of the things we think will be helpful is to use CADE to help model future APIs quickly or to model non FHIR flows as this will help us understand how to handle a mixed economy of interoperability standards
Steve Swinsburg
08:53:34
Is CADE open source?
H Williams
08:57:36
Thank you everyone! This has been so educational (and a little bit fun). But I have a kid who needs picking up!
Charles McCay
08:58:09
Hi Steve - the CADE engine is not open source, but the configuration files, pathways and generated outputs are…
JOSHUA Porteous
08:58:26
:)
Charles McCay
08:59:04
the CADE engine is (and will remain) available for free use as long as the config files are kept open
JOSHUA Porteous
09:09:32
Brilliant!
Mike Smith
09:18:18
I think Better use Kafka from memory. Would be good to confirm
Mike Smith
09:21:05
I wish I had Better.care available as a test environment! Looks awesome
Mike Smith
09:22:03
Sorry I mean OpenEP
Mark Hunt
09:23:45
It is really good set of products to work with and a great team too!
JOSHUA Porteous
09:26:17
yep
JOSHUA Porteous
09:28:56
:D no problem
David Beaumont
09:33:17
Thank you though, I appreciate it!
JOSHUA Porteous
09:33:42
I wanted to give David Beaumont a vote too :)
Mark Chapman
09:33:56
As did I
ian.haywood@dorsetccg.nhs.uk
09:34:17
David Beaumont you would have got my vote also. Great to see
Hui Pheng Teoh
09:34:45
Ditto, David Beaumont you would have got my vote too. :)
JOSHUA Porteous
09:35:56
Is this where we all network and drink free wine at the end :) ?
David Beaumont
09:37:13
Thanks very much for the vote of confidence of getting social care involved with meds in the NHS. If anyone knows how we can overcome the network/IG issues I’d really appreciate it :)
Mark Chapman
09:38:56
..so would the other social care systems providers (and the social care providers themselves)
Magdalena Mikrut Kremiec
09:39:37
Thanks everyone for sharing and it was very inspiring ! Great event :)
Ann Slee
09:39:41
thankyou everyone and particularly to the all of those who have shared their expertise. Thanks to the NHSD team who have supported as well. A real demonstration of collaboration
Kevin Mayfield
09:39:42
Thank you all. Thank you Helen.
Stephen McEwan
09:39:53
My first hackathon and fabulous to see what multiple perspectives and expertise across the sector
JOSHUA Porteous
09:40:00
Thanks everyone!!!! Can't wait for the next one :)
Mark Hunt
09:40:11
Thank you! See you at the next one!
Gary Brims
09:40:15
Thanks everyone